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| 01:01.27 | hgs | hi all, are there any patches for /etc/init.d/checkroot of oe/angstrom for performing fsck om MMC before mounting it as root?? |
| 01:02.26 | hgs | currently it is failing when it tries to remount the mmc as read only?? |
| 01:16.59 | grg | hgs, what error do you get? |
| 01:16.59 | hgs | grg: *** ERROR! Cannot fsck root fs because it is not mounted read-only! |
| 01:17.36 | grg | hgs, what happens when you mount readonly manually? e.g. mount -n -o remount,ro / |
| 01:18.08 | hgs | the fs resides on mmc and its root fs |
| 01:18.43 | hgs | grg: i want to fsck on boot before mounting the mmc partition as root |
| 01:18.52 | grg | yes |
| 01:19.18 | grg | looking at the checkroot script, it looks like 'mount -n -o remount,ro /' is failing to return 0. |
| 01:19.19 | hgs | grg: says mount: / is busy |
| 01:19.37 | grg | have you tried passing 'ro' to the kernel at boot time? |
| 01:19.51 | hgs | grg: yes |
| 01:19.59 | grg | same error? |
| 01:20.37 | hgs | grg: i guess the fs was not mounted properly, i cannot log in to shell to check the debug logs |
| 01:21.21 | grg | are you using an initrd? |
| 01:21.48 | hgs | initrd = ramdisk, then i am not using |
| 01:22.23 | grg | good, that simplifies things |
| 01:22.42 | grg | and it also means that the root filesystem must be mounted ok otherwise the checkroot script wouldn't be running |
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| 01:24.09 | grg | can you create the file /fastboot on your mmc card and then boot, in order to play a bit? |
| 01:25.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi, it seem that some people are playing with GNU/Linux on android devices? |
| 01:25.02 | hgs | yes, i will do other information, i have everything in my mmc as two partitions, one holding bootload, kernel(/dev/mmcblk0p2) and the other partition holding rootfs (/dev/mmcblk0p1) |
| 01:25.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | (fastboot) |
| 01:26.11 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, hello. I'm not sure I understand your opkg bug report properly. Can you clarify some things? |
| 01:26.24 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi |
| 01:26.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | what should I clarify |
| 01:26.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | ? |
| 01:26.54 | grg | which commit did you bisect back to? |
| 01:27.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | I did 2 things |
| 01:27.20 | hgs | grg: iam seeing this "Fast boot, no filesystem check" |
| 01:27.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | I first bisected openembedded.dev |
| 01:27.38 | grg | hgs, yup. can you login now, and try some things manually? |
| 01:28.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | and then I "bisected" opkg revisions |
| 01:28.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | I bet you mean between which opkg revision I bisected |
| 01:28.25 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, ok. That is sort of what I thought you had done. |
| 01:28.54 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, i was interested in both OE and opkg commits |
| 01:28.56 | hgs | grg: i am not getting it grg, i wanted to perform fsck on my ext3 fs to remove any stale entries, |
| 01:29.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/v7RGwNsA] |
| 01:29.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/v7RGwNsA |
| 01:29.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | oops for the first link |
| 01:29.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | here's for opkg commits |
| 01:30.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically I had luck for ipkg commits |
| 01:30.22 | GNUtoo|laptop | for oe I'll look |
| 01:31.12 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=731e6defe6da58bff482f33508058544ad1013a9 ? |
| 01:31.29 | GNUtoo|laptop | yes |
| 01:31.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | that's the commit I found |
| 01:32.06 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, do you have build logs for a good and a bad build? |
| 01:32.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | http://pastebin.com/QTkL07gC |
| 01:32.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | for oe |
| 01:32.39 | grg | hgs, can you manually mount read only and fsck? |
| 01:32.44 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've only bad for now |
| 01:32.50 | hgs | grg: "/dev/root / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=writeback 1 1" is the entry in fstab entry |
| 01:32.55 | hgs | grg: previously i had "rootfs /dev/root auto defaults 1 1" |
| 01:33.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | you mean do_rootfs? |
| 01:33.55 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, i'm not sure. the problem may not even be in do_rootfs. But that would be a start |
| 01:34.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 01:34.33 | hgs | grg: i cannot do it manually on the board as it is mounted as root right (saying "mount: / is busy") |
| 01:34.40 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, certainly, if you can see the problem just by rebuilding opkg and rerunning do_rootfs, that would help narrow it down. |
| 01:34.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 01:36.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | do_rootfs: http://pastebin.com/j8z1PQia |
| 01:38.45 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, is that good or bad? |
| 01:38.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | it doesn't seem to install the "kernel-modules" package |
| 01:38.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | bad |
| 01:38.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've only bad now |
| 01:39.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | the good are rm -rfed |
| 01:39.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | I couldn't keep everything |
| 01:39.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | I already don't do rm_work |
| 01:39.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | but with the number of revs |
| 01:39.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | I couldn't keep each rev |
| 01:40.01 | grg | sure. i understand |
| 01:40.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 01:40.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | I can easily build a good if you want |
| 01:40.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I'll have to build from scratch I think |
| 01:40.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | else it won't work |
| 01:41.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | I built from scratch each time during the tests |
| 01:41.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | it would take 2/3 hours to build from scratch |
| 01:41.24 | grg | ok. Well, can you save any log files that you've got lying around for the bad build, just in case they are relevant? |
| 01:41.35 | GNUtoo|laptop | I can keep 2 builds |
| 01:41.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | but not 10/20 |
| 01:41.41 | grg | excellent |
| 01:41.46 | grg | :) |
| 01:42.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | do you want me to rebuild from scratch now? |
| 01:42.11 | grg | yes please |
| 01:42.18 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 01:43.30 | grg | hgs, sorry, i'm not sure i can help any more. I don't know what would make mount -oremount,ro say / is busy... maybe something is logging to the filesystem already? |
| 01:44.34 | grg | hgs, if you boot single user, there should be nothing preventing remounting readonly |
| 01:45.08 | hgs | grg: yes actually i am redirecting the output of checkroot to a file in the directory, but how can i confirm fsck is done with out the those logs?? |
| 01:46.07 | grg | are you getting normal console output |
| 01:46.08 | grg | ? |
| 01:47.31 | hgs | grg : yes this what i see http://pastebin.com/af4waKzA |
| 01:47.41 | hgs | grg: regarding EXT3 |
| 01:48.25 | grg | hgs, yep, those are the kernel messages. Are you getting boot messages after the kernel mounts the root filesystem? |
| 01:49.26 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, what is your GMT offset right now? |
| 01:49.32 | hgs | grg: oh ok, but i could not see checkroot echos (i am running psplash) |
| 01:49.49 | GNUtoo|laptop | grg, ouch...you've a huge chance to find me here |
| 01:49.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | I couldn't sleep |
| 01:50.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | GMT+1 |
| 01:50.26 | grg | almost 4am... |
| 01:50.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | indeed |
| 01:52.05 | grg | hgs, i suspect you need to modify your kernel parameters to ensure that the console is set to the correct serial port |
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| 01:52.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | what is hgs doing? I saw the fastboot word |
| 01:53.32 | grg | he has problems with the checkroot script |
| 01:53.49 | grg | it wont remount his / read only |
| 01:53.54 | grg | thus, it wont fsck |
| 01:56.00 | grg | hgs, do you have something like console=ttyS3,115200n8 as a kernel parameter? (but with the correct tty for your serial port) |
| 01:56.49 | grg | hgs, you may also need to edit /etc/inittab to spawn a getty (the login thingo) on your serial console |
| 01:56.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 01:57.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | what's his bootloader? |
| 01:57.11 | grg | shrugs |
| 01:58.13 | grg | hgs> hi all, are there any patches for /etc/init.d/checkroot of oe/angstrom for performing fsck om MMC before mounting it as root?? |
| 01:58.13 | grg | <hgs> currently it is failing when it tries to remount the mmc as read only?? |
| 01:58.14 | grg | <grg> hgs, what error do you get? |
| 01:58.14 | grg | <hgs> grg: *** ERROR! Cannot fsck root fs because it is not mounted read-only |
| 01:58.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically it has to do with udev cache I think |
| 01:59.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | we must find a fix for that |
| 01:59.04 | grg | fuck i hate udev |
| 01:59.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | because we need rw because of that |
| 01:59.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | there were fixes posted |
| 01:59.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | but I'm not shure they worked for me |
| 01:59.31 | grg | so the checkroot script should run before udev? |
| 01:59.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm I think the problem is worse |
| 02:00.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | people put rw as kenrel argument |
| 02:00.12 | GNUtoo|laptop | because of this udev cache problem |
| 02:00.24 | grg | yeah, i have that to work around something that i've long forgotten about... |
| 02:00.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe it's worth trying ro |
| 02:00.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | to see if it has been fixed |
| 02:01.14 | grg | is still running an oe tree that was checked out in january |
| 02:01.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | ouch |
| 02:01.36 | GNUtoo|laptop | I can test if you want |
| 02:02.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | ??? |
| 02:02.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I think I moved the wrong dir |
| 02:02.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah no |
| 02:02.38 | GNUtoo|laptop | I was bitbaking for the wrong machine |
| 02:02.43 | GNUtoo|laptop | that's why it finished now |
| 02:03.09 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok restarting |
| 02:09.34 | hgs | grg: sorry was not at my desk, i have console=ttyS2,115200n8 |
| 02:09.47 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: i am using uboot |
| 02:09.58 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 02:10.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | so you can change the arguments of the kenrel |
| 02:10.19 | GNUtoo|laptop | but be carefull |
| 02:10.45 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: yes i can, ok |
| 02:10.57 | grg | just save your current bootargs in another variable. setenv oldbootargs ${bootags} |
| 02:10.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | long time ago I messed up my environment of my om-gta02 |
| 02:11.01 | hgs | grg: the kernel argument reads fine rite |
| 02:11.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | and I couln't use the bootloader anymore so I flashed qi |
| 02:11.28 | GNUtoo|laptop | (there were 2 bootloaders) |
| 02:11.33 | GNUtoo|laptop | so the second one saved me |
| 02:11.34 | hgs | grg: ok and what shld it be replaced with |
| 02:11.51 | grg | hgs, well i don't know what serial port you need to use... |
| 02:12.10 | grg | i don't know what hardware you have and even if i did, i still probably wouldn't know |
| 02:12.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | some uboot contain hard coded serial parameters (serial of uboot ) whichh is a good protection against brickage |
| 02:12.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | I've that on my bug device |
| 02:12.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | for knowing the serial port: |
| 02:12.48 | grg | hgs, check the manual(s) for your device to find out if it says anything about what serial port is used for console output |
| 02:12.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | boot GNU/Linux on it |
| 02:13.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | and try it out |
| 02:13.08 | GNUtoo|laptop | try serial communication |
| 02:13.10 | GNUtoo|laptop | like: |
| 02:13.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | ssh->shell->picocom<--serial--->usb_to_serial->computer |
| 02:14.04 | hgs | grg: ttyS2 is a serial device, i getting just the kernel logs through the serial port of the device |
| 02:14.21 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 02:14.46 | grg | hgs, but you said you don't get any output after the root filesystem is mounted... ? |
| 02:15.51 | hgs | grg: only the kernel logs gets displayed (like messages on loading kernel modules etc) |
| 02:15.52 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm |
| 02:15.57 | GNUtoo|laptop | ahh ok |
| 02:16.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | init logs aren't displayed |
| 02:16.48 | hgs | yes those with runlevel S and 1,2,3,.. |
| 02:16.56 | hgs | are not getting displayed |
| 02:17.24 | grg | i'm afk for a lunch meeting... back later.. |
| 02:18.14 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'll boot a device and look |
| 02:18.41 | hgs | iam seeing the following "S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyS0" in /etc/inittab |
| 02:18.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | I think that's for the root prompt login |
| 02:19.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | like: |
| 02:19.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | username: |
| 02:19.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | password: |
| 02:20.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe look in |
| 02:20.55 | GNUtoo|laptop | /etc/default/rcS |
| 02:20.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | there is a verbose option |
| 02:21.07 | GNUtoo|laptop | not shure if it fix that tough |
| 02:21.26 | hgs | ok actually enabled it :( |
| 02:21.48 | hgs | long time back it did not help |
| 02:21.51 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 02:22.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | I never had this issue on embedded things |
| 02:22.20 | GNUtoo|laptop | only on x86 powerfull routers |
| 02:22.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | and their init system and the fix was quite different |
| 02:24.48 | GNUtoo|laptop | hmmm what's /proc/cmdline? |
| 02:24.59 | GNUtoo|laptop | is there a quiet or similar option |
| 02:25.25 | hgs | yes id do have "mem=442M console=ttyS2,115200n8 vram=32M omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:16M,2:8M console=tty0 omapfb.mode=dvi:640x480MR-16@60 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait" |
| 02:26.02 | hgs | it is the bootargs that is being passed to the kernel |
| 02:26.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 02:32.16 | GNUtoo|laptop | maybe udev? |
| 02:32.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | print something before udev |
| 02:32.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | and see if it appears on the serial port |
| 02:36.05 | GNUtoo|laptop | hgs, do you see the please wait booting? |
| 02:36.19 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: i setup is taken away from me, have to wait for some time |
| 02:36.27 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
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| 02:41.59 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: from my previous logs snaps http://pastebin.com/WZ75tczR, is what i see, wrt to mmc/ext3 and udev, i dont see "please wait booting" in those logs though |
| 02:43.35 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: my ttyS device number in kernel bootargs and that in initab are not matching...may it could be the issue...waiting for my setup huh.. |
| 02:44.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 02:51.56 | hgs | GNUtoo|laptop: as you had mentioned i could only see the login console, i could not feed any input through the serial device |
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| 03:23.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah? |
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| 04:01.31 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, there is something interesting in your failing do_rootfs log... search for "check_data_file_clashes" |
| 04:09.06 | grg | ideally, OE should check for that error message and fail instead of do_rootfs succeeding |
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| 04:17.32 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, see rootfs_ipk.bbclass:rootfs_ipk_log_check(), it should be trivial to add a check for, e.g. "wants to install file" |
| 04:18.26 | grg | ...And then i suppose you need to figure out why the Marvell-Licence.txt file already exists. |
| 04:38.40 | hgs | grg: i added "S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyS2" entry in /etc/inittab and now it allows the login shell access from the serial console, how do i redirect the runlevel S, 1, 2, ... logs to serial port?? |
| 04:39.16 | grg | hgs, i still suspect you need to alter the kernel command line |
| 04:39.26 | grg | hgs, you have console=foo listed twice |
| 04:39.57 | grg | once for the serial port, once for the framebuffer console |
| 04:40.13 | grg | those init level messages are probably going to your framebuffer |
| 04:40.45 | hgs | oh ok i will disable my pslash and chk whether i could see init messages |
| 04:41.12 | grg | GNUtoo|laptop, I've updated the issue with my analysis: http://code.google.com/p/opkg/issues/detail?id=52 |
| 04:45.32 | grg | hgs, psplash should be able to find your framebuffer without console=tty0 on your kernel command line |
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| 05:31.32 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 05:31.33 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5404278ea3 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (9 files): |
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| 05:31.42 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r27ff4654fb 10openembedded.git/conf/ (15 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:31.42 | CIA-2 | distros: add PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libx11-native |
| 05:31.42 | CIA-2 | * to be able to use virtual/libx11 in BBCLASSEXTEND = native recipes |
| 05:31.42 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 05:31.43 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r659f8c0df7 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (6 files): |
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| 05:31.43 | CIA-2 | * PR will be bumped later with INC_PR conversion |
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| 05:31.51 | CIA-2 | * PR will be bumped later with INC_PR conversion |
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| 05:32.26 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5467edf73c 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (6 files): |
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| 05:32.26 | CIA-2 | * PR will be bumped later with INC_PR conversion |
| 05:33.14 | CIA-2 | xserver-xorg: add /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to xserver-xorg package |
| 05:33.14 | CIA-2 | * ie for /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf |
| 05:33.14 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 05:33.15 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re03f8bb577 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-util/util-macros.inc: |
| 05:33.15 | CIA-2 | util-macros: add BBCLASSEXTEND sdk, because some packages were already depending on it |
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| 05:58.46 | hgs | grg: thanks now could see the actual init debug messages redirected to the serial console it is saying "fsck: fsck.auto: No such file or directory" |
| 06:00.25 | grg | does that mean you need to specify the correct filesystem type in your fstab? |
| 06:04.12 | hgs | grg: shld the chkscript supposed to call fsck.ext3 instead of fsck.auto?? |
| 06:04.25 | grg | hgs, yeah. |
| 06:05.05 | grg | it looks like it reads the filesystem type from fstab |
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| 06:06.08 | hgs | ok i updated fstab let me verify it |
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| 06:22.29 | hgs | grg: i modified fstab etnry as "rootfs /dev/root ext3 defaults 1 1", it again calling fsck.auto. |
| 06:23.48 | grg | hgs, well, maybe you have a different checkroot script to the one I'm looking at. I suggest you have a read of yours and see why its calling fsck.auto |
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| 06:28.26 | hgs | grg: ok i actually changed to "/dev/root / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=writeback 1 1" this time called fsck.ext3 appropriately, but it is prompting for user input..here is the logs |
| 06:28.43 | hgs | http://pastebin.com/i3gesu6p |
| 06:29.48 | grg | hgs, why not specify mmcblk0p1 instead of /dev/root? |
| 06:30.02 | grg | i mean, /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 06:30.29 | hgs | grg: yes iam really confused with those fstab entries, dont know which format to follow |
| 06:32.07 | grg | the format is generally, filesystem_dev_file_or_whacko_alias /path/for/mount/destination comma,separated,options dump_no pass_no |
| 06:32.50 | grg | or was it pass_no, then dump_no... i forget |
| 06:34.22 | hgs | grg: finally worked shuuu.... |
| 06:36.08 | hgs | grg: then what about this default entry says "rootfs /dev/root auto defaults 1 1" |
| 06:36.20 | hgs | rootfs seems to be an additional entry |
| 06:36.50 | grg | that some whacko non unix shit that has crept into linux in recent years |
| 06:37.14 | grg | i blame udev for those kind of shenanegans |
| 06:39.33 | hgs | grg: oh ok i have other entries "proc, devpts ,usbfs ,tmpfs" follwing similar structure (non unix), should i update them |
| 06:39.46 | grg | no no |
| 06:39.50 | grg | those are normal :) |
| 06:39.56 | hgs | :) |
| 06:40.12 | grg | they don't actually have corresponding /dev/file entries |
| 06:43.13 | hgs | grg: i actually dont have a clue...have lot to learn.. |
| 06:43.57 | grg | hgs, well, you've walked through this problem in a manner that indicates you are capable of learning. That's a good start. |
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| 06:44.51 | grg | i often get fed up trying to help people when it becomes clear they just want to be spoon fed solutions and cant do any of their own troubleshooting |
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| 07:10.46 | tsjsieb | morning |
| 07:13.03 | hrw | morning |
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| 07:54.42 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7d9b0799a0 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (134 files): |
| 07:54.42 | CIA-2 | xorg-lib: use INC_PR |
| 07:54.43 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 07:54.51 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re50bb7af5b 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (6 files): |
| 07:54.51 | CIA-2 | libxext: remove PROVIDES_virtclass-sdk |
| 07:54.51 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 07:54.54 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2531ea35b2 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (147 files): |
| 07:54.54 | CIA-2 | xorg-lib: oe-stylize |
| 07:54.54 | CIA-2 | * require in oe-stylize script was moved to top |
| 07:54.54 | CIA-2 | * reminders were removed |
| 07:54.55 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 07:55.05 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc34bf3cb88 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (19 files in 14 dirs): |
| 07:55.05 | CIA-2 | recipes: use libxt/libxft/libxdmcp/libxscrnsaver/liblbxutil/libxau/libxext instead of xt/xft/xdmcp/libxss/lbxutil/xau/xext providers |
| 07:55.05 | CIA-2 | * there is only one provider, so use it directly as othere recipes does |
| 07:55.05 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 08:08.33 | hrw | JaMa: now there is one. in past it was not clean |
| 08:09.22 | JaMa | hrw: provider? but OK to clean it now, right? |
| 08:09.27 | hrw | yes |
| 08:09.39 | hrw | before x11 got modular |
| 08:09.46 | JaMa | hrw: because most of recipes were using direct depends now.. so better to clean it everywhere |
| 08:09.56 | hrw | yes |
| 08:10.09 | hrw | JaMa: I like your work on x11 stuff |
| 08:10.41 | JaMa | good, than I hope you'll ack my mesa cleanup (a bit more controversal because of old versions removal) |
| 08:10.52 | hrw | long time ago I was doing lot of x11 upgrades and it is nice to see that someone continue that |
| 08:10.55 | JaMa | but it's not yet pushed - still testing old cruft |
| 08:11.11 | hrw | JaMa: I do not do OE builds so hard for me to ack that |
| 08:13.20 | JaMa | ok |
| 08:17.54 | eFfeM_work | gm |
| 08:20.26 | JaMa | gm |
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| 08:26.00 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4eda57ba4a 10openembedded.git/recipes/libjson/ (libjson/json-c-longlongint.patch libjson_svn.bb): |
| 08:26.00 | CIA-2 | libjson: add svn versions with patch needed for elmdentica |
| 08:26.00 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 08:29.57 | hrw | hi eFfeM_work |
| 08:30.25 | mckoan | good morning |
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| 11:32.15 | Nikunj | Hi All, One doubt plz.. does tmp/ folder needs to be deleted or moved whenever you bitbake different packages.. ex. helloworld and console-image?? Which is more safe? |
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| 11:35.58 | woglinde | nikunj ???? |
| 11:37.33 | Nikunj | woglinde : I bitbaked helloworld first.. it had created tmp/ folder.. which has all the associated data. Now If I want to bitbake console-image .. does that tmp/ folder needs to be moved or deleted.?? |
| 11:38.03 | woglinde | no why? |
| 11:38.14 | woglinde | that would be really stupid |
| 11:38.23 | woglinde | we are making some stupid things |
| 11:38.30 | Nikunj | woglinde : till now I was deleting tmp/ folder every time I bitbake any package.. |
| 11:38.34 | woglinde | but dont expected us this much stupid |
| 11:39.55 | Nikunj | woglinde : I agree !! Actually I wasnt too sure about whether to keep tmp/ folder or continue with the old one..Afraid about getting errors. |
| 11:40.53 | Nikunj | woglinde : So ultimately this will again save time in building any package..Right? |
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| 11:42.15 | woglinde | ????????? |
| 11:42.17 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 11:42.35 | woglinde | Nikunj please look into the tmp yourself |
| 11:42.38 | woglinde | and find your answer |
| 11:46.59 | blindvt` | Nikunj, usually you do not need (nor want) to manually delete the tmp directory |
| 11:48.14 | woglinde | only for distro bump |
| 11:48.15 | woglinde | *g* |
| 11:48.25 | woglinde | hi blindvt |
| 11:48.45 | blindvt` | woglinde, \"folder\" always reminds me on BSE |
| 11:49.34 | woglinde | blhm? |
| 11:52.54 | blindvt` | dunno. folding (proteins) and flapping proteins. Just an association. nm |
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| 11:58.51 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3c8aa3ac19 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/om-gta02.conf: |
| 11:58.51 | CIA-2 | om-gta02: prefer kernel 2.6.32 |
| 11:58.51 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 11:58.52 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3322af9410 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-xserver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:58.53 | CIA-2 | xserver-xorg-conf: update om-gta02 config for 2.6.32 and newer kernel (evdev node changed for ts) |
| 11:58.58 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9707d105fa 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/fsodeviced_git.bb: |
| 11:58.58 | CIA-2 | fsodeviced: make alsa states for 2.6.31 default |
| 11:58.58 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 11:59.00 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc0987e7f50 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/shr.conf: |
| 11:59.00 | CIA-2 | shr: inherit couple of usefull classes: recipe_sanity, insane, devshell and bump DISTRO_PR |
| 11:59.00 | CIA-2 | * gcc major version was changed, better to sync recipes to targets |
| 11:59.00 | CIA-2 | * new QA tasks needs available workdirs |
| 11:59.11 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r733149b626 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-shr-versions.inc: |
| 11:59.11 | CIA-2 | shr: prefer qt-4.7.0-beta1 |
| 11:59.11 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 11:59.15 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfe3e3931f5 10openembedded.git/recipes/freesmartphone/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:59.15 | CIA-2 | fsogsmd: add patches for 2.6.31+ on om-gta02 |
| 11:59.15 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 11:59.18 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r168eea64ef 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-proto/ (5 files): |
| 11:59.18 | CIA-2 | kbproto: convert to BBCLASSEXTENDS |
| 11:59.18 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 11:59.19 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd2bc5b243d 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-proto/ (39 files): |
| 11:59.19 | CIA-2 | xorg-proto: remove XORG_PN, it was now used only in DESCRIPTION where BPN is also enough |
| 11:59.27 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc56b6369c0 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-proto/ (24 files): |
| 11:59.27 | CIA-2 | xorg-proto: add nativesdk to BBCLASSEXTEND |
| 11:59.27 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 12:12.54 | woglinde | re |
| 12:13.01 | woglinde | hm jama has some freetime |
| 12:13.07 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r721ce80031 10openembedded.git/recipes/binutils/binutils-cross-sdk_cvs.bb: binutils-cross-sdk cvs: fix PV |
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| 12:23.24 | JaMa | woglinde: not at all (deadline at work ;/).. but I would really like to have it cleaned a bit.. |
| 12:25.21 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 12:28.18 | XorA | hey guys, anyone know the best way to get Brussels to Munich by train and how long it takes? |
| 12:28.42 | woglinde | xora hm |
| 12:28.54 | woglinde | xora from brussel to cologne via thalis |
| 12:29.03 | woglinde | and from cologone to munich |
| 12:29.21 | woglinde | you can use www.bahn.de |
| 12:30.34 | woglinde | 6:50 the fastest |
| 12:30.34 | XorA | woglinde: thanks |
| 12:31.03 | woglinde | in the thalis you can have wlan acess |
| 12:31.07 | woglinde | but its not cheap |
| 12:31.37 | XorA | its not for me, friend is planning the journey for herself but got lost on a french language site |
| 12:31.45 | woglinde | uh |
| 12:32.04 | woglinde | hm for thalis you normaly need reservation |
| 12:32.04 | XorA | figured OE guys tend to scoot around by train a lot :-) |
| 12:32.13 | woglinde | yes |
| 12:32.28 | woglinde | most of the time cheaper than flight |
| 12:32.36 | XorA | and more comfy |
| 12:32.41 | XorA | planes annoy me |
| 12:32.44 | woglinde | hm not really |
| 12:32.46 | woglinde | *g* |
| 12:33.30 | XorA | my normal Edin to London route, because of all the messing around you have to do, sometimes the train is actually quicker :-) |
| 12:33.45 | woglinde | sure |
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| 12:34.51 | woglinde | jama ack for the deleting of old mesa stuff |
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| 12:36.52 | XorA | thats 2 acks, Ive just emails mine |
| 12:47.32 | JaMa | XorA: thanks :) |
| 12:48.04 | JaMa | woglinde: can you ack on email to be correct for everyone? |
| 12:50.29 | woglinde | jama done |
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| 13:04.07 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rabbc5acc0f 10openembedded.git/recipes/mesa/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 13:04.07 | CIA-2 | mesa: move common definitions to include file, change SRC_URI to freedesktop for releases newer than 7.5 |
| 13:04.07 | CIA-2 | * drop eee901 override (no such machine in OE, dropped from poky |
| 13:04.07 | CIA-2 | http://git.pokylinux.org/cgit.cgi/poky/commit/?id=542eb3b16dc1c6fa7920257219ed5dac0b95c257) |
| 13:04.07 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:04.15 | CIA-2 | preferred-om-2008-versions: remove pinned version of mesa/mesa-dri |
| 13:04.16 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:04.16 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> |
| 13:04.17 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> |
| 13:04.17 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2f62a96457 10openembedded.git/recipes/mesa/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:04.18 | CIA-2 | mesa-dri: remove old 7.0.3 and 6.5.2 relase using mesa-common-old.inc |
| 13:04.18 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:04.19 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> |
| 13:04.19 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> |
| 13:04.27 | CIA-2 | * there was --disable-egl in mesa-dri recipes (there are mesa recipes for this) |
| 13:04.27 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:04.28 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r02fdabdbaf 10openembedded.git/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-2 | mesa: move 7.8 release to latest minor 7.8.2 |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:05.20 | CIA-2 | Acked-by: Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> |
| 13:12.40 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdb9b2d1745 10openembedded.git/classes/mozilla.bbclass: |
| 13:12.40 | CIA-2 | mozilla.bbclass: use libxt directly |
| 13:12.40 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:12.41 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r46012bde53 10openembedded.git/recipes/vim/gvim_7.2.bb: |
| 13:12.41 | CIA-2 | gvim: use libxt directly |
| 13:12.41 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:13.43 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re1f208e7e1 10openembedded.git/recipes/gcc/gcc-package-sdk.inc: |
| 13:13.43 | CIA-2 | gcc-package-sdk: skip stripping *.py files |
| 13:13.43 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:13.43 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
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| 13:20.49 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rea59e852d8 10openembedded.git/classes/testlab.bbclass: |
| 13:20.49 | CIA-2 | testlab: from opkg info grep only +- 7 lines around package with status installed of unpacked |
| 13:20.49 | CIA-2 | * silly solution to filter multiple versions shown in installed-packages.txt where one is with Status not-installed and the right one with installed |
| 13:20.49 | CIA-2 | * someone with better idea? |
| 13:20.49 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:23.20 | CIA-2 | 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2e0f5099da 10openembedded.git/recipes/binutils/binutils-cross-sdk_2.20.1.bb: binutils-cross-sdk: add 2.20.1 |
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| 13:45.01 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r69efbdbe8f 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (18 files): |
| 13:45.02 | CIA-2 | libx11,diet-x11: use INC_PR |
| 13:45.02 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 13:45.14 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r82dd23467d 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-lib/ (40 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:45.14 | CIA-2 | libx11: convert to BBCLASSEXTEND |
| 13:45.14 | CIA-2 | * common patches in new libx11.inc (some needed to be renamed to keep |
| 13:45.14 | CIA-2 | same name across version) |
| 13:45.14 | CIA-2 | * keep one common dir with diet-x11/libx11-trip variants |
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| 14:13.01 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:14.10 | hrw | hi kergoth |
| 14:14.26 | kergoth | hey hrw |
| 14:16.37 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
| 14:17.31 | kergoth | fyi, I modified bitbake so it would error out if anyone tries to access a variable that wasn't captured by the signature for the task being executed -- and successfully built task-boot, task-base, task-proper-tools, etc with it :D |
| 14:17.43 | kergoth | so i guess the functionality for the varref stuff is there |
| 14:17.57 | kergoth | now can focus on performance and improving the code, maintenance wise |
| 14:18.16 | pb_ | excellent |
| 14:19.11 | kergoth | then need to figure out how to fully integrate it -- i think i'll need to add a setVar notification mechanism to dirty cached expanded variables |
| 14:19.20 | kergoth | then perhaps see about making the parser directly produce this tree |
| 14:19.43 | kergoth | and of course, to use this for stamps would require that we make tasks stay within WORKDIR, and start tracking WORKDIR contents |
| 14:19.54 | kergoth | makes a list |
| 14:21.15 | kergoth | it's too bad we can't safely cache pythonsnippets, since we can't assume they have no side effects |
| 14:21.48 | mario-goulart | functional programming ftw |
| 14:23.38 | kergoth | heh, the problem is we have snippets doing all sorts of things that can't function properly without some side effects -- at a minimum, I/O |
| 14:23.51 | kergoth | could add the ability to explicitly specify referenced files |
| 14:23.55 | kergoth | in addition to referenced variables |
| 14:23.59 | kergoth | then utilize that in the caching |
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| 14:24.20 | kergoth | thinks this is one giant nested can of worms |
| 14:26.20 | kergoth | so |
| 14:26.35 | kergoth | i'm trying to gather as much information as possible on the history of OE, more than what i happen to recall |
| 14:26.52 | kergoth | about the original discussions for the design when we started the project |
| 14:27.06 | kergoth | we no longer seem to have the original wiki, sadly |
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| 14:27.23 | kergoth | but, timriker's bot, ibot/purl/jbot has logs going back to 2002 for #openzaurus, #elinux, #openembedded, #oe |
| 14:27.26 | kergoth | so that seems promising |
| 14:28.12 | kergoth | i can remember quite a bit about why we didn't go with the various alternatives, but i figure getting exact info is better than trusting my memory |
| 14:28.59 | kergoth | the most annoying thing is trying to remember which projects were even around back then, vs ones that showed up later :) |
| 14:29.16 | kergoth | "well, i know what issues exist with FOO, but was that even an option then?" |
| 14:29.19 | kergoth | rolls eyes |
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| 14:32.42 | kergoth | that's promising, i told timriker that schurig had added some more detail about the ideas "we discussed the other week" on the oe wiki, this was 20030218 at 21:39.29 |
| 14:37.16 | kergoth | haha, tim fishslapped me for creating #openembedded on 20030123. course, at the time it wasn't a project of its own really, it didn't have much of an identity |
| 14:37.18 | kergoth | but still :) |
| 14:38.52 | pb_ | hah |
| 14:39.38 | kergoth | he worried a bit about fracturing, i think, even then he wanted #elinux / elinux.org as the central embedded linux information repository, but I don't think he realized we were more about the metadata than the documentation |
| 14:41.20 | kergoth | okay, the design discussions had to occur after 20030123 - around the time we created #openembedded and got the domains, and near / shortly after 20030218, when i told tim about updates to the wiki pages |
| 14:41.25 | kergoth | getting there |
| 14:41.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 14:42.48 | kergoth | ah ha! |
| 14:42.51 | kergoth | http://web.archive.org/web/20030513111311/www.openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/BuildSystem |
| 14:42.54 | kergoth | thank you wayback machine |
| 14:42.55 | kergoth | <3 |
| 14:43.13 | kergoth | that includes logs of the original discussions between tim and i that got me mulling over the thing |
| 14:43.23 | kergoth | woot. |
| 14:44.19 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 14:44.23 | kergoth | schurig's ebuild page |
| 14:44.25 | kergoth | "What's not so good |
| 14:44.25 | kergoth | With it's over 3000 packages, portage is sometimes slow when it comes to dependency calculations. On my 1GHz box it takes 1-3 seconds. They are right now thinking about a Berkely DB where they store this info. However, the dependency tracking works very well." |
| 14:44.29 | kergoth | 1-3 seconds, i wish.. |
| 14:44.30 | kergoth | ;) |
| 14:44.45 | pb_ | heh, puny 3000 packages |
| 14:44.51 | kergoth | hehe, indeed |
| 14:53.44 | kergoth | http://web.archive.org/web/20030606074302/openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/OeTODO - heh - oeconfig .. we never did get such a thing |
| 14:54.17 | kergoth | haha |
| 14:54.19 | kergoth | "enhance task dependency checking.. force a redownload/rebuild/etc if SRC_URI changes from what it was previously, rebuild if the build steps change, etc. Essentially store a CRC of the variable which applies to a given task, and force a clean and rerun of that task if the CRC changes." |
| 14:54.31 | kergoth | it only took us 7 years, and we still aren't there yet |
| 14:54.53 | pb_ | doh |
| 14:54.58 | pb_ | bad work by us |
| 14:55.04 | kergoth | :) |
| 14:55.22 | kergoth | well, to be fair, we did have more important things to do |
| 14:55.25 | kergoth | like making sure shit actually built |
| 14:55.26 | kergoth | but still |
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| 14:57.06 | kergoth | oh, that reminds me |
| 14:57.14 | kergoth | the varref stuff completely ignores overrides |
| 14:57.27 | kergoth | need a wrapper class to associate a conditional to a value |
| 14:57.30 | kergoth | most likely |
| 14:57.38 | kergoth | then the conditional value could sit anywhere in the tree |
| 14:57.51 | kergoth | hmm, how to store the condition |
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| 15:10.55 | kergoth | tries to make something coherent out of this scattered information |
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| 15:11.44 | kergoth | holy cow koen, according to ohloh he has nearly double the commits of the next person below him for OE |
| 15:15.08 | hrw | kergoth: you forgot that Koen was a man who wrote OE in one day? |
| 15:15.15 | hrw | aka first monotone commit |
| 15:15.23 | kergoth | chuckles |
| 15:16.07 | kergoth | the first oe commits were in cvs or something, but I don't think the OE repo has the full history |
| 15:16.14 | kergoth | (i.e. pre-oe-split) |
| 15:16.29 | hrw | kergoth: cvs? before bitkeeper even? |
| 15:17.12 | hrw | kergoth: now we have history since bitkeeper but BK commits are disaster due to a way how bitmover exported it |
| 15:17.49 | kergoth | yeah, before bk |
| 15:18.18 | kergoth | check out the bitbake repo, i spent a lot of time on that one, and i think it still may be msising a few things |
| 15:18.53 | kergoth | http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/bitbake/commit/?id=af645b03b585a9c92dc111188756b8f6badfec5f |
| 15:19.21 | kergoth | i think that one was cvs, i worked to convert all the authors to current info and removed extra metadata in the commit logs |
| 15:19.24 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 15:19.42 | kergoth | 2003-02-21 04:03:45 sounds about right, this may be everything |
| 15:19.55 | kergoth | hey woglinde |
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| 15:21.44 | kergoth | that first parser wasn't very pythonic python ;) can tell i was a noob |
| 15:22.39 | kergoth | 0a866478cc2ae23a4d60ea407b0d6d89146f3016 is when holger schurig started pulling over portage bits |
| 15:22.51 | woglinde | *g* oe history |
| 15:22.55 | kergoth | :) |
| 15:23.20 | woglinde | hi hrw btw. |
| 15:24.10 | kergoth | ponders what to do with all this info |
| 15:24.49 | kergoth | maybe a basic timeline showing certain big events in the project lifetime |
| 15:24.57 | kergoth | supplemented by additional information about design decisions, etc |
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| 15:25.36 | hrw | kergoth: nice idea |
| 15:25.50 | kergoth | someone was asking me about why we did things the way we did |
| 15:26.00 | kergoth | i'm hoping this sort of information will help that |
| 15:27.44 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 15:28.13 | kergoth | wonders where he put the dirs where he was working on fixing up the bitbake repository, since there were oe bits there too, could graft them onto the main repo |
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| 15:31.45 | kergoth | hmm, anyone know if any of the OE presentations covered much about our history, other than just very brief onceovers? |
| 15:31.52 | kergoth | alternatively, any that cover the high level concepts well? |
| 15:32.06 | kergoth | seems like most are just quick introductions + some recipe or implementation details |
| 15:32.11 | kergoth | downloads some |
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| 15:40.54 | CIA-2 | xserver-xorg: remove D_P -1 from 1.8 versions, because mesa is now new enough |
| 15:40.55 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 15:44.23 | JaMa | kergoth: didn't someone render codeswarm video? would be interesting to comment design decisions in video in form of subtitles or something :) |
| 15:44.32 | kergoth | i was thinking about that too :) |
| 15:45.11 | kergoth | could show a movement along a timeline as the codeswarm proceeds, with a subtitle showing the event in the timeframe |
| 15:46.46 | JaMa | would like to see SRCREVs in recipes and checksums in recipes commits :) |
| 15:47.42 | hrw | JaMa: I used gource |
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| 15:48.17 | hrw | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06RdXKHwV6U |
| 15:48.49 | kergoth | ah, nice |
| 15:48.59 | JaMa | saves link for later, corporate fw here blocks youtube |
| 15:49.02 | kergoth | greg gilbert :( |
| 15:49.24 | hrw | RIP |
| 15:49.42 | kergoth | yep |
| 15:50.16 | hrw | good that his family handled exports of data from his farm |
| 15:50.29 | kergoth | did they? that's impressive |
| 15:50.47 | kergoth | i should put my passwords in a fire safe or something, just in case |
| 15:50.48 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:51.04 | pb_ | right, and write a will :-} |
| 15:51.09 | kergoth | that too |
| 15:51.10 | hrw | kergoth: did not we had bugtracker at his machine? |
| 15:51.27 | kergoth | doesn't remember |
| 15:51.34 | kergoth | i know he ran the source mirror |
| 15:51.41 | pb_ | yeah, I think a whole pile of oe bits were hosted on treke.net at one point |
| 15:52.01 | pb_ | this was before melo, obviously, and I think it pre-dated ltg as well |
| 15:52.30 | hrw | bugs.treke.net |
| 15:56.37 | hrw | kergoth: LTG is 2006, Greg died in Feb 2008 |
| 15:57.02 | hrw | http://linuxtogo.org/here-we-are http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/17660/ |
| 15:57.52 | kergoth | ugh |
| 15:58.17 | kergoth | heart attack at 26 due to diabetes that he didn't know about? |
| 15:58.22 | kergoth | god, what a shame |
| 15:58.30 | kergoth | didn't realize the cause |
| 16:03.17 | woglinde | hi mrmoku |
| 16:04.46 | mrmoku | woglinde: hi :) |
| 16:09.02 | kergoth | wonder how much work itd be to track down when various oe based projects / commercial releases of oe based products happened |
| 16:10.24 | hrw|gone | have a nice weekend |
| 16:10.29 | woglinde | bye hrw |
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| 16:11.34 | hrw|gone | kergoth: http://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/category/releases/ will give you OZ track |
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| 16:12.20 | kergoth | cool, thanks |
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| 16:24.00 | JaMa | can I instruct bitbake to run rm_work as soon as possible instead of as one of the tasks executed last? |
| 16:24.29 | JaMa | I mean while building and image or so (clearly it should be last for particular recipe) |
| 16:24.58 | JaMa | has rather small /tmp |
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| 17:15.50 | khem | JaMa: hmmm how small is your tmp |
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| 17:20.27 | JaMa | khem: 12G |
| 17:20.59 | JaMa | khem: but sometimes there is another build already running (some other OE distro or portage workdir is also there) |
| 17:22.32 | JaMa | khem: I'm building image as sequence of smaller tasks (which cleans before finish) but would be nicer to just run rm_work as soon as workdir is not needed anymore by following tasks |
| 17:23.13 | JaMa | khem: btw I'm rebuilding gcc-4.5 images without optspace disable (seeing your fixes before), do you consider it safe now? |
| 17:25.48 | kergoth | JaMa, right, but exactly when can you be certain there are no tasks that do anything with workdir anymore? |
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| 17:26.00 | kergoth | its not just do install. do deploy copies files out of there too, etc |
| 17:26.49 | kergoth | now, i could see being a bit smarter than wiping workdir. after install and deploy have been run, wipe ${S}/${B}, perhaps |
| 17:26.50 | kergoth | shrugs |
| 17:29.01 | JaMa | kergoth: honestly I have no idea how the order of tasks is decided (between different recipes)... I only know how is task order defined with addtask for one recipe |
| 17:29.54 | kergoth | there are many flags that control cross-recipe task deps, in addition to DEPENDS/RDEPENDS based |
| 17:30.14 | kergoth | see deptask, depends, recrdeptask, rdeptask, etc |
| 17:30.29 | kergoth | may want to look at the bitbake -g output |
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| 17:31.52 | JaMa | if it's really hard to be a bit smarter then I'll stay with sequence of targets and let bitbake experts like you handle it if they find it doable and usefull :) |
| 17:33.29 | kergoth | we'll get there. in the future we're looking to better track what the file/dir input/output is for individual tasks |
| 17:33.37 | kergoth | with that information, we could really know when we're done with a given dir |
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| 17:56.08 | khem | JaMa: yes optspace should work ok now |
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| 18:14.56 | khem | will is be the Swiss or spaniards .. lets see |
| 18:15.09 | khem | plans to watch at the local St. Johnn |
| 18:16.14 | woglinde | hi khem |
| 18:16.34 | woglinde | khem I am really lucky that italy is out |
| 18:16.50 | khem | woglinde: heh |
| 18:17.26 | khem | woglinde: spain and chile will be interesting |
| 18:17.27 | woglinde | spain will follow today |
| 18:17.41 | khem | woglinde: I dont think so |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-2 | 03Steve Sakoman <steve@sakoman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdd0c9cb1e6 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-xserver/ (xorg-xserver-common.inc xserver-xorg_1.7.4.bb): |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-2 | xserver-xorg: remove dependency on xorg-minimal-fonts |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-2 | this is no longer necessary, and infact leads to a conflict with font-alias |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> |
| 18:18.05 | khem | woglinde: it could be that spain and swiss loose and Honduras goes thru :) |
| 18:18.26 | khem | but I guess spain will play a boring draw |
| 18:18.36 | woglinde | *g* |
| 18:18.52 | woglinde | the brazil - portugese game was shit |
| 18:20.32 | khem | yeah |
| 18:21.43 | khem | hmmm debug version of uclibc libc.so.0 on mips is 102M |
| 18:21.54 | khem | something is broken |
| 18:22.04 | khem | either the linker or the script |
| 18:22.38 | woglinde | hm why? |
| 18:22.45 | woglinde | debug ius heavy |
| 18:23.03 | woglinde | think about git |
| 18:23.05 | khem | that remains to be seen |
| 18:23.06 | woglinde | git-native |
| 18:23.52 | khem | CFLAGS += -O0 -g3 -DDEBUG |
| 18:23.55 | khem | ah |
| 18:24.01 | khem | thats why |
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| 18:55.30 | khem | what was chilean goalkeeper doing |
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| 19:54.27 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7f80b1581d 10openembedded.git/recipes/dvbtools/dvb-apps_1.1.1.bb: |
| 19:54.27 | CIA-2 | dvb-apps: rename evtest to dvb-evtest to workaround conflict with standalone evtest recipe |
| 19:54.27 | CIA-2 | * input-utils were preferred instead of included evtest already in 2005 |
| 19:54.28 | CIA-2 | http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2005-November/006402.html |
| 19:54.28 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 19:54.31 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1036e9e2d9 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/shr.conf: |
| 19:54.31 | CIA-2 | shr: drop unused DISTRO_* definitions |
| 19:54.31 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
| 19:54.37 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r02535ca958 10openembedded.git/recipes/shr/initscripts-shr_0.0.1.bb: |
| 19:54.37 | CIA-2 | initscripts-shr: RCONFLICTS is enough and installed version is controlled by IMAGE_INITSCRIPTS |
| 19:54.37 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 20:20.13 | woglinde | ieehks |
| 20:20.15 | woglinde | http://bugs.python.org/issue9075 |
| 20:20.57 | GNUtoo | lol hi |
| 20:21.20 | GNUtoo | woglinde, btw you're interested in fastjar, I saw on lwn.net that it got a CVE |
| 20:21.41 | woglinde | gnutoo hm maybee I will be soon fastjar release manager |
| 20:21.50 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:21.53 | woglinde | dalibor is searching someone |
| 20:21.58 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 20:22.11 | woglinde | but didnt notice the cve |
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| 20:46.07 | CIA-2 | 03Henning Heinold <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r06cb3e1e79 10openembedded.git/recipes/fastjar/ (fastjar_0.98.bb files/jartool.patch): |
| 20:46.07 | CIA-2 | fastjar: apply fix for CVE-2010-0831 |
| 20:46.07 | CIA-2 | * bump PR |
| 20:48.38 | mario-goulart | kergoth: I thought that maybe you'd find it interesting, in case you don't know it already: http://www.stanford.edu/~pgbovine/incpy.html |
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| 20:50.17 | kergoth | mario-goulart, interesting. i think i'd rather use a persistant memoizing decorator and do it explicitly, rather than trusting that that thing knows which functions are side effect free, but I'll have to check it out, thanks for the link |
| 20:51.42 | mario-goulart | kergoth: you're welcome |
| 20:57.58 | CIA-2 | 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5e3295a867 10openembedded.git/recipes/tangogps/ (4 files): |
| 20:57.58 | CIA-2 | tangogps: add 0.99.4 version and drop older 0.99.x |
| 20:57.58 | CIA-2 | Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> |
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| 22:05.38 | dcordes | khem: good news. bug 5435 can be closed. it was one big low level problem. we just need to set the processor in certain mode. some hardware bug workaround |
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| 22:34.58 | CIA-2 | 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc727649644 10openembedded.git/recipes/kexecboot/ (kexecboot.inc kexecboot_git.bb): |
| 22:34.58 | CIA-2 | kexecboot_git: bump to ac70f55e2b49f23963a8f057330eb47836a01c2f |
| 22:34.58 | CIA-2 | * add forgotten initrd/initramfs support, |
| 22:34.58 | CIA-2 | * make package machine-specific |
| 22:34.58 | CIA-2 | * (even if the binary itself is arch specific and could be run as standalone), |
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