IRC log for #oe on 20090524

00:14.32booxterhm, udev-141 recipe has moved udevadm binary to separate package (udev-utils). But udev init script uses the program. We should include udev-utils package into all images with DEV_MANAGER = "udev". How can we achieve this?
00:20.35Tartarusput it back in the main program
00:20.36Tartaruser, package
00:21.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 5121 has been created by ihar.hrachyshka(AT)gmail.com
00:21.07cdbot2* * udev-141 has broken all udev images
00:21.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5121
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09:55.45pb__hi mickey|F9N
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11:27.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 5122 has been created by newdimm(AT)gmail.com
11:27.07cdbot2* * Incorrect hyperlink in OE docs
11:27.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5122
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11:32.09mpoullet|homegood morning
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11:37.10Crofton|workgm
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11:53.42CIA-7303Julien 'Ainulindale' Cassignol <ainulindale@gmail.com> 07shr/import * r6ff5560b44 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
11:53.42CIA-73etk-theme-shr: New bb recipe to handle the default SHR etk theme.
11:53.42CIA-73This fixes the commit issue of the default theme removal from the images directory.
11:55.15CIA-7303Julien 'Ainulindale' Cassignol <ainulindale@gmail.com> 07shr/import * r6ff5560b44 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
11:55.15CIA-73etk-theme-shr: New bb recipe to handle the default SHR etk theme.
11:55.15CIA-73This fixes the commit issue of the default theme removal from the images directory.
11:55.31mpoullet|homedoes the name CIA-73 of the bot mean something special?
11:56.12Flysermpoullet|home: www.cia.cv and anumber
11:56.28bluelightningmpoullet|home: CIA is the vcs monitoring bot software
11:56.47bluelightningand it's the 73rd login of a CIA bot into freenode, I guess :)
11:57.02CIA-7303Julien 'Ainulindale' Cassignol <ainulindale@gmail.com> 07shr/import * r9e071bdabf 10openembedded.git/recipes/tasks/task-shr-minimal.bb: task-shr-minimal: Added etk-theme-shr as part of the x task.
11:57.56mpoullet|homeFlyser: bluelightning: interesting, thanks
11:59.01Flysercia.vc is the correct address
12:05.05CIA-7303Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbe6fec499d 10openembedded.git/ (7 files in 3 dirs): linux-davinci: bump PR and point to include file where MACHINE_KERNEL_PR is located
12:31.24mickey|F9Ngreetings pb__
12:31.25mickey|F9Nhi folks
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13:02.11Ainulindalepeterz: FSOSHRUDCON
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13:02.29AinulindaleFreesmartphone / Stable Hybrid Release User & Developers convention
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13:27.05CIA-7303Jan Lübbe <jluebbe@debian.org> 07fso/milestone5.5 * r684ec675a2 10openembedded.git/recipes/efl1/ (ecore.inc ecore/ecore-add-includes.patch): ecore: pick patch from raster to fix building ecore_x (missing stdio.h include)
13:35.51pb__Ainulindale: aha, right.  very good.
13:36.55bluelightningdamn, it's such a nice day outside, I almost feel guilty for being in here...
13:39.45zeckebluelightning: hehe
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13:52.37bluelightningjust out of curiosity, how are all these { } getting into the paths (reported by git pull)?
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14:00.55TartarusThey aren't
14:01.02TartarusIt's textual shorthand
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14:06.50pb__hi zecke
14:07.05pb__bluelightning: heh, you should embrace wi-fi
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15:23.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 5123 has been created by dbaryshkov(AT)gmail.com
15:23.08cdbot2* * meta-toolchain-gpe-1.0-autobuild
15:23.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5123
15:32.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 5124 has been created by dbaryshkov(AT)gmail.com
15:32.07cdbot2* * package-index-1.0-autobuild
15:32.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5124
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16:22.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 5124 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by dbaryshkov(AT)gmail.com
16:22.08cdbot2* * package-index-1.0-autobuild
16:22.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5124
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17:10.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 4472 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch>
17:10.08cdbot2* * xfce-mcs-manager fails do_qa_staging
17:10.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4472
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18:22.07cdbot2* * OE Bug 2302 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch>
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20:11.57denix0kergoth: ping?
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20:38.27CIA-7303Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1f0d91e152 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.29/0001-implement-TIF_RESTORE_SIGMASK-support-and-enable-the.patch: linux-omap 2.6.29: add missing ppoll patch
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21:12.10booxterwhat is the rule for purging old checksums.ini entries? No package -> no checksum?
21:12.33Crofton|workjust leave them
21:12.33booxterI mean, for committing
21:12.40Crofton|workin case someone adds it back
21:13.08booxterCrofton|work: I think that "just leave them" is a way to make checksums.ini (and OE) too bloated
21:13.55Crofton|worksomeone could be using them in an overlay
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21:14.19booxterAs long as I can see, the same "just leave them" rule works for obsolete recipes too. But more recipes -> more time to parse them.
21:14.28booxterCrofton|work: ow, overlay is a good argument, tnx
21:14.41Crofton|workparsing speed needs to be addressed in bitbake
21:15.10Crofton|worksomeone could also be using old recipes in a buidl with custom preferred version
21:15.14denix0BBMASK works great as a temp solution...
21:15.31Crofton|workalso, keeping old recipes id helpful for people who need to be concerned with GPL compliance
21:15.53Crofton|workthe bitbake hackers know of things they can improve
21:15.56Crofton|workoffer them beer
21:16.10Crofton|workis annoyed by the current parse times also
21:16.44denix0yeah, rebuilding cache is the most annoying thing... :)
21:17.00booxterbut I see commit logs like "checksums.ini: remove kexecboot-0.3". What does it mean then? Wrongful commit?
21:17.26Crofton|workI hope the kexec guys are fully aware of what they are doing :)
21:18.01Crofton|workthis is a project with a large diverse community
21:18.23Crofton|workuniform standards are hard to "enforce"
21:18.49booxterbut technically speaking such commits also possibly fuck up the other's overlays ;)
21:20.14Crofton|workyep
21:20.31Crofton|workthen someone will add it back
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21:20.51Crofton|workalthough I think there has been a checksum change that makes it easier for people to maintain overlays
21:21.12denix0there was - works great!
21:21.21Crofton|work:)
21:22.14denix0Crofton|work: do you use overlays?
21:22.23Crofton|worksometimes
21:22.37Crofton|workmainly for stuff that is not a good candidate for .dev
21:22.40booxterCrofton|work: yes it was. But someone can copy recipe from upstream repo, edit it a little, bump its revision - and just use upstream checksum not overlay one
21:22.51denix0Crofton|work: have you switched to new COLLECTIONS or still use BBFILES_* ?
21:23.14Crofton|worklately, stuff I was doing in overlays I keep in branches though :)
21:23.30Crofton|workI have not tried the COLLECTION approach yet
21:23.45booxterthat last 'checksums.ini for overlays' is a great feature for third-party projects. Another way of keeping all custom stuff in the right place
21:26.07Crofton|workyeah, using overlay,collections effectively can help keep stuff out of .dev
21:26.37denix0with old BBFILES_* you could specify recipes/*/*.bb and it would not parse nonworking/ and obsolete/ recipes, as they are in a different level
21:26.42Crofton|workah
21:26.50Crofton|workI was wondering who ihar is :)
21:27.30Crofton|workone day we should organize OEDAM
21:27.30denix0with COLLECTIONS all I can think of is to add those to BBMASK... any better ideas?
21:27.35Crofton|workno
21:27.55Crofton|workmy attempts at using BBMASK is a dismal failure :)
21:28.09booxterCrofton|work: ihar? possibly me
21:28.17booxterOEDAM? wtf?
21:28.17Crofton|workyep :)
21:28.25denix0BBMASK was broken for some time, but is fixed now
21:28.37Crofton|workOpen Embedded Developers Americas Meeting
21:29.10booxterCrofton|work: I'm a little bit far from the continent... :)
21:29.16Crofton|workheh
21:29.16timtimredso it has nothing to do with cheese :(
21:29.19Crofton|workI was not sure
21:29.35Crofton|workwhat continent are you on?
21:29.45booxterEurope, Belarus
21:29.49Crofton|workah
21:29.53Crofton|worklate there
21:30.24Crofton|workthis collapse of the iron curtain has truly changed the world
21:30.24denix0booxter: privet :)
21:30.28booxterI like the time -> lots of devs from America are there ;)
21:30.46booxterdenix0: yeap, I know Russian.
21:31.25denix0Crofton|work: OEDAM would be really nice!
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21:33.14Crofton|workdenix0, it is a really good thing to get OE guys together in person occasionally
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21:34.52denix0Crofton|work: absolutely! and with this ongoing economic downturn it's not easy to go to Europe...
21:35.01Crofton|workheh
21:35.06Crofton|workit is cheaper now though
21:35.20Crofton|workespecially in the fall
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21:45.48ant__Crofton|work: hi, do you happen to remember where the manpage about overrides can be?
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21:50.06Croftonant__, sorry no
21:51.29ant__np, Is just a strange idea ...
21:51.46ant__+MACHINE_KERNEL_PR_linux-kexecboot = "r12"
21:51.53ant__something like this would never work
21:53.28ant__machine override is ok
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22:01.25kergothpn based overrides are pn-thepackagename, not just thepackagename.  see the definition of OVERRIDES in bitbake.conf
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22:04.24ant__kergoth: thx
22:04.59ant__the base idea remains for me strange: if I bump a kernel PR I have to edit one .inc file too :/
22:05.19ant__so DEFAULT_PREFERENCE is on holiday
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22:12.34denix0kergoth: how did you envision to skip nonworking/ and obsolete/ from COLLECTIONS? with BBMASK or something else?
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22:15.42CIA-7303Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r415d395680 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini:
22:15.43CIA-73conf/checksums.ini: add xf86-video-geode
22:15.43CIA-73Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
22:15.53CIA-7303Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r16633cd9e9 10openembedded.git/recipes/xorg-driver/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:15.53CIA-73xf86-video-geode: fix GPIO probing and RandR init
22:15.53CIA-73Signed-off-by: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>
22:21.15CIA-7303Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8ce0d1274b 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/include/zaurus-kernel.inc: zaurus-kernel.inc: add a (common) PR for linux-kexecboot
22:22.50ant__kergoth: it works, thx again (still needing manual synch of the PR btw. kernel and machine(s))
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23:19.22booxterbtw I'd like to know if Koen Koii is on IRC and his nickname. Anyone knows?
23:19.31kergothkoen.
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23:20.54booxtertnx. as I can see, he doesn't like to hand on #oe.
23:21.01booxterhang*
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23:23.48florianbooxter: try #beagle
23:24.13booxterflorian: yes, /whois showed me his active channels
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