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01:06.05gumleefI'm trying to build Angstrom from scratch for the beagleboard. I made a local.conf and typed 'bitbake e-image-core' from the build directory. The build fails at imlib2. It looks to me as though the compile directive is specifying -I/usr/X11R6/include - from my host system.
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01:07.05gumleefhere is the output for 'bitbake imlib2': http://rafb.net/p/QzQgbs45.html
01:08.08gumleefhow can i ensure that include directories from my host system are not used for cross building? (i am unfamiliar with oe/bitbake in general, but willing to learn)
01:08.51torbenh4hi... i am supposed to install some stuff on a beagleboard tomorrow... will the ethernet gadget stuff work without problems ?
01:09.08gumleefmy local.conf looks like this: http://rafb.net/p/3oS34R26.html
01:12.54gumleefPS: /usr/X11R6/include is a symlink to /usr/include on my system, hence the unknown asm constraint for FD_ZERO in imlib2_view.c
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01:17.42gumleefhmmm... i see a patch openembedded/recipes/efl1/imlib2/remove-local-includes-20080421.patch which looks like it should do what i need. how can i tell if this is being correctly applied?
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01:28.50t2ahello
01:29.34t2aI'm stuck trying to crosscompile dbus-glib and would like to share your experience regarding dbus-glib crosscompilation
01:30.12t2ain fact, by the end, configure tries to run some binaries to generate some header files
01:30.31t2asomething like this : How do you managed build error while crosscompiling dbus-glib please ? i would like to compile it for powrepc (sorry it out of topic) and i'm stuck with cannot execute binary file /home/gpg/build-tools/ltib/rpm/BUILD/dbus-glib-0.76/dbus/.libs/lt-dbus-binding-tool --prefix=some_object --mode=glib-server --output=example-service-glue.h ./example-service.xml
01:31.10t2a(i'm not using oe on this stuff) but would like to know how do you manage this in oe
01:32.31t2ayay i've seen something like no-example-patch
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01:51.25gumleeft2a, http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/BestPractices may be what you want
01:52.14t2agumleef, thank you
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01:52.29t2agumleef, i'm quite lost in oe git repositories
01:53.16gumleeft2a, me too
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02:15.20Kendall781I am a Linux newbie that wants to build a single purpose embedded system.  It will run on a VIA C7 1.7gHz processor with 512mb RAM and either a 4gb CF card (on IDE adapter) or embedded 1gb IDE disk on chip.  I need it to be capable of running a single, light MS based program via WINE and connect to a Symnet Express DSP via a crossover Cat5 cable.  It will control the Symnet unit via touchscreen so it needs the appropriate drivers and
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02:29.51denix0Kendall781: and? I won't sleep if I don't get the end of this story... :)
02:30.24Kendall781really.... ;-)
02:30.46Kendall781sorry I'm long winded.
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05:36.55CIA-3503Angus Ainslie <nytowl@openmoko.org> 07fso/milestone5.5 * rd0dc8de4d5 10openembedded.git/recipes/openmoko-projects/paroli_git.bb: paroli : ship dbus startup file
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06:09.55gumleefhow do i add a patch to a bitbake thing?
06:10.39gumleefthe manual/docs seem to dismiss this section with "[to be done]"
06:12.07gumleefa package is broken for me. i could fix it, if only i knew how to get the build infrastructure to apply my patch
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06:40.13mckoangood morning
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10:07.02pb_florian_kc: good morning
10:12.14floriangood morning
10:18.21RPmorning all
10:22.41eFfeMhi
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10:28.05Crofton|workgm
10:28.13akheronis there a way to rebuild all non-native packages with bitbake?
10:28.27akheronand non-cross
10:28.40akheroni.e. all TARGET_ARCH and MACHINE_ARCH packages
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11:08.24booxterwoglinde: btw I asked that guy who also got error while compiling qt/embedded-4.5.1, and he used generic x86_64 ubuntu gcc 4.3 system. there is no embedded specific stuff in there
11:08.44booxterwoglinde: and have you tried to build qt4-embedded-4.5.1 with OE?
11:11.58woglindebooxter ups sorry
11:12.01woglindedidnt find the time
11:12.06woglindehi rp
11:12.14booxterwoglinde: no problem :)
11:12.43woglindemaybee this evening
11:12.47woglindehm or I try it here
11:12.52woglindethats a good ide
11:12.53woglindea
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11:19.49methril|workgood morning
11:20.07woglindehi methril
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11:20.33CIA-3503Robert Schuster <rschus@entw2.(none)> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc57486c9bb 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: New cmake 2.6.4 entry, removed unused cmake entries.
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11:47.20tsjsiebCan I use an console-image as ramdisk? (I'm trying, using a cpio.gz, but it doesn't seem to work)
11:47.58tsjsieb(I have made an u-boot image from the cpio.gz with the mkimage tool, manually)
11:53.25akherontsjsieb: what's the problem with it?
11:55.09tsjsiebthat I don't know If I'm trying to create the ramdisk in te right way
11:55.32akheroncpio.gz should work fine as an initrd
11:55.42akheronwith a recent kernel and approppriate kernel config
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11:56.33akheronI expect that you pass the initrd address correctly to u-boot bootm
11:58.20tsjsiebI'm not sure, but I have a working ramdisk example for my machine
11:58.55tsjsiebso I guess that kernel is usable and correct configured
11:59.34tsjsiebbut when i try to load that kernel with my own 'cpio.gz in uboot mkimage file'
12:00.17tsjsiebuboot gives me a 'Verify Checksum.... Bad CRC', followed by a reset
12:01.14tsjsieb(wich it doesn't do, when i 'iminfo' the same adress, where I loaded the 'cpio.gz containing image'
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12:05.36tsjsiebI also created a kernel, which does boot with the 'example ramdisk' I have, that's why I suspect there is something wrong with my own ramdisk
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12:14.01akheronBad CRC doesn't have anything to do with the ramdisk contents
12:14.43akheronyou probably have not transferred the ramdisk to the device correctly or are trying to load it from a wrong address
12:15.26florianthebohemian: Good to see you were not eaten by the magic OE monster ;-)
12:15.40florianibot: seen likewise?
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12:18.41woglindehi ant
12:19.00ant_workhey woglinde
12:22.05thebohemianflorian: :)
12:24.33mckoantsjsieb: if you are building an image generating a final ramdisk image I would be couruis to know which options are required in conf to do that, could you give me a clue?
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12:29.00tsjsiebI don't think I understand you completly, but I'm trying to create a ramdisk to teskt if my created rootfs is ok, without using the NAND flash memory on my device. (as I'm suffering some problems there)
12:29.28akheronok
12:29.59tsjsieband unfortunatly I'm not able to use NFS as my ethernet card doesn't get a valid MAC address when kernel boots
12:30.11akheronso you tftp kernel.img $kerneladdr; tftp ramdisk.img $ramdiskaddr; bootm $kerneladdr $ramdiskaddr
12:30.21mckoantsjsieb: my question is whether you are getting the ramdisk image automatically with a bitbake process or are you doing it by hand
12:30.23akheronright?
12:31.02tsjsiebakheron: thats indeed the way I'm doing that
12:31.11ant_workthebohemian: I tried to build x11-gpe-java-image but it failed on classpath
12:32.52tsjsiebmckoan: I added cpio.gz to IMAGE_FSTYPES in my local.conf and I manually make a u-boot image, using the u-boot mkimage tool
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12:33.44pb_hi ant_work, woglinde, mickeyl
12:36.13tsjsiebakheron: but I changed the adresses a little, compared to the working example, because my cpio.gz is bigger then the expamle ramdisk.img
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12:37.06tsjsieband as they use 0x80a00000 for kernel and 0x80600000 I thought that my bigger cpio.gz might overlap over the kernel image
12:37.26tsjsieb(0x80600000 for the ramdisk.img)
12:39.16akheronok
12:39.50hrwmorning
12:39.56akheronremember that kernel gets moved to another location, too, and that location should not overlap with your ramdisk
12:40.54florianhi hrw
12:41.44mckoantsjsieb: I haven't noticed cpio.gz option, thank you
12:41.48florianpb_: I just tried gdb. Running in gb the same application dies from a segfault.
12:42.44mckoantsjsieb: I always used ramdisk before using OE, what is your problem? which architecture?
12:43.08tsjsiebakheron: so both the kernel as the ramdisk get moved after loaded to the 1st adress (manually with tftp 'adress1' file) to the a second adress?
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12:46.53tsjsiebmckoan: ARM (Compulab CM-X300) the problem is actually that I try to check if my rootfs is o.k., but I'm not able to use the NAND flash on the device, as it seems to suffer from a NAND flash driver bug, so now I'm trying to use the same rootfs als ramdisk
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12:47.13woglindejo raster
12:47.33rasterwoglinde:  yooooooow!
12:47.41rasteris it just me or has oe pretty much fallen of the rails?
12:47.59woglinderaster hm in which case?
12:48.06rasterthe only target angstrom+oe (or openmoko+oe for gta02) buils for is... overo (or i guess beagle)
12:48.14rastereverything else is mired in gnu hash problems
12:48.17rastergcc segvs
12:48.29rastergod knos how many other issues
12:48.37woglindethis happens
12:48.40Crofton|workraster, during builds?
12:48.45rasterCrofton|work:  yup
12:48.45woglindeif you leave normal ways
12:48.52Crofton|workwhich targets are you having problems with?
12:48.54woglindeand provide stuff for arm thumb
12:49.00rasteri used to bea ble to build for about 5 or 6 targets
12:49.02rasternow just 1
12:49.30woglindethe gnu hash should be fixed
12:49.37rasterCrofton|work:  palmt650, nokia800, rokre6, om-gta02, c760
12:49.57rasterwoglinde: i still have moe gnu has patches pending which i wont push until i can verify a full image build... which i cant
12:50.09woglinderaster where it fails with n800?
12:50.20Crofton|workI would have thought people cared about the gta02
12:50.22woglindefor n800 you only can use chinook-compat
12:50.47rasterwoglinde:  i forget. i'venuked my build dirs for all but omap3/overo
12:51.15woglindebut we/maemo has a gsoc student who tries to get a disbu ready which provides an image to falsh
12:51.17rasterCrofton|work: not in oe. :(
12:51.24hrwwoglinde: no shit.. angstrom can be built for n8x0 too
12:51.39rasterwoglinde:  i USED to be able to build angstrom for everyething
12:51.39woglindehrw but its not compat
12:51.41Crofton|workhrw, what is the url for your buildbot?
12:51.52rasterbut of lae almsot every machine target except omap3 has barfed
12:52.57rasteri am happy to help fix bugs where i can but when you get a mountain of them that requires 10+ minute test cycles
12:53.05hrwCrofton|work: http://home.haerwu.biz:8010/
12:53.07rasteri kind of throw in the towel :(
12:53.14rasteri was just wondering if it is just me
12:53.18rasteror others see it too?
12:53.38Crofton|workhttp://home.haerwu.biz:8010/waterfall
12:53.53woglinderaster seems most people only building for beagleboard
12:53.53hrwCrofton|work: yes
12:53.55Crofton|workraster, I suspect you are building for machines that are not actively maintained
12:54.02rasterwoglinde:  thats what i was wondering
12:54.07Crofton|workI admit we need a way to document which machines have active maintinaers
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12:54.16rasterislike that the only target anyone builds for anymore? as its the only one that works :)
12:54.23rasterCrofton|work:  indeed i am
12:54.24Crofton|workraster, see hrw's buildbot
12:54.30rasterCrofton|work:  i am trying a token effort at maintaing them
12:54.32rasterbut its a bit much
12:54.33raster:(
12:55.06Crofton|workraster, can you post a list of known failing builds to the list
12:55.29Crofton|workI can burn some spare cycles running the builds and see if I can do anything
12:55.41rastersure!
12:55.43Crofton|workI'll need MACHINE, DISTRO, and image
12:55.43rastercan do
12:55.44ant_workraster: builds for c7x0 (console-image, opie-image, x11-image) are ok
12:55.54ant_workx11-gpe-image perhaps
12:56.02ant_workx11-gpe-java-image no
12:56.07hrwneeds to patch x11 components ;(
12:56.16ant_workeh..hoe many similar images...who maintains these?
12:56.16hrw(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO succeeded but modified mode
12:56.16hrw(EE) FBDEV(0): mode initialization failed
12:56.22rasteri was just wondering if my uspicion that all thes targets are simply not maintained and thus breakages occure and are never found/fixed until i cycle arounda month later to try another build
12:56.23raster:)
12:56.30Crofton|workyeah
12:56.40rasterant_work: maybe its because i also build full evel tools
12:56.44rasterlike gcc for the target
12:56.44Crofton|workI'd like to ge this info documented so people know what to expect
12:56.46rasterbinutils
12:56.48rastergdb etc.
12:57.00rastermost targets never build it
12:57.02ant_workraster: I didn't dare :)
12:57.05rasterhahaha
12:57.10rastermaybe thats why i get hit by it
12:57.14Crofton|workyeah
12:57.15rasterBUT it id work a few months back nicely
12:57.21ant_workI was hit by the installer/strip issue
12:57.35ant_workstill strange..it seems the host strip is called btw
12:57.41rasterso its gonedownhill and i suspect oe needs a bit of spring cleaning just to get the housein order again after some ugly changes
12:58.13Crofton|workwell, first we need to work out what is broken
12:58.29Crofton|workas you note, yuo are building some things that most people do not build
12:58.30woglinderaster because it worked dont establish that it was good
12:58.41hrwI think that I will add some more targets in my buildbot - I am offline during long weekend (Thu->Mon)
12:58.50pb_florian: that's weird.  where does it segfault?
12:58.50ant_workCrofton|work: still disturbing how so many images are failing
12:59.02rasterwoglinde: hahahaha
12:59.11woglinderaster ;)
12:59.20Crofton|workwell, I think raster is also building some stuff that most do not build
12:59.21rasterCrofton|work: well it would be good togte moe things to build
12:59.34Crofton|workso it is possible there are only a few broken things
12:59.39Crofton|workagreed
12:59.40rasteri am keen to try my hand at hacking up my g1 and re-using the android kerneland just replacing userspace with oe
13:00.08rasterCrofton|work:  they build for omap :)
13:00.17rasterlets see
13:00.24rasteri'm moving my oe tree to my xternal usb drive
13:00.29rasterkind of out of space on internal
13:00.35rasterdamn these ssd's
13:00.37rastertoo small
13:00.52woglinderaster and mostly to slow
13:01.23rasterwoglinde: ssd's?
13:01.25rasterhell no
13:01.28rasterthis baby vooms
13:01.39rasterlike a motherfucker
13:01.42woglindeintel one?
13:01.45rasterboot time is gorgeously low
13:01.52rastere17 comes up in < 1 second
13:01.54woglindewe have here on an atom board
13:01.57rasteryeah the x25m
13:02.01woglindebut maybee its the atom
13:02.27rastermy previous hdd pulled a good 50m/sc sequential io
13:02.30rasterit was a slowpoke
13:02.38rasterbut this x25 beats the pants offit
13:03.40raster<PROTECTED>
13:03.55rasteralso considering seek time is now basically non-existant
13:03.56raster:)
13:04.24Crofton|workhmmm
13:04.33Crofton|workwhat happened to FILESPATH?
13:04.48hrwCrofton|work: kergoth deprecated it?
13:05.03Crofton|workdoes putting things in u-boot-git/beagleboard no linger work?
13:05.37hrwshould iirc
13:05.41Crofton|workhmm
13:05.54hrwbut u-boot-git needs to be added into FILESsomething
13:07.02Crofton|workhmmm
13:07.23Crofton|workI wonder how people have been moving stuff into files because of this?
13:08.16hrwFILESPATHPKG += "u-boot-git" - try
13:08.30Crofton|workyeah
13:08.56Crofton|workcollecting things in files, especially version specifc patches is evil
13:12.32_cpo_I upgraded from the old stable release to stable/2009. i always used in my env.sh file to set the OE base path and reference to this env variable in my local.conf
13:12.53_cpo_but this isnt working anymore. anyone can point me into the direction of this change in bitbake/oe?
13:13.24_cpo_another think is that when i refer to ${HOME} in a recipe, ${HOME} wont be expanded and is just empty
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13:15.52Crofton|workthe extra white list var
13:15.58Crofton|workhang ong
13:17.07Crofton|work_cpo_,  http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Advanced_configuration#Whitelist_Environment_Variables
13:17.24_cpo_thx
13:18.39hrwguys: is there a device in OE which has more then 1 framebuffer? (other then BUG)
13:24.15mckoanhrw: never seen it, maybe a nintendo DS :-D
13:24.30hrwmckoan: "in OE"
13:24.46mckoan:-D
13:24.52hrwmckoan: BUG has 3 framebuffers
13:25.48mckoanhrw: human beings have only 2 eyes :-D
13:25.59_cpo_also i think i found a bug with devshell and newer versions of 'konsole'. the devshell will start console with the -T switch, but this one is no longer present in newer console versions
13:26.36mckoantsjsieb: you have an idea of your memory map?
13:26.55mckoantsjsieb: http://www.compulab.co.il/mediawiki/index.php5?title=Getting_started_with_Linux_on_CM-X300
13:27.28mckoantsjsieb: seems that linux kernel goes @ 0x80400000
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13:28.17mckoantsjsieb: add your uImage size to it and the result (plus some space) is the address whete to place your ramdisk
13:29.02tsjsiebmckoan: thats not the kernel, but an u-boot script, wich contains the next steps to load the kernel and ramdisk
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13:30.14tsjsiebthis is the source of that script: http://rafb.net/p/L7OVpx64.html
13:31.38mckoantsjsieb: is kernel.img a uImage type ?
13:31.50mckoantsjsieb: what is kernel.img size (hex)?
13:32.41tsjsiebI think it is yes (and when I replace the kernel.img by a custom uImage, it works)
13:33.24tsjsiebIt seemed a little bit strange to me that the location of the ramdisk in the script is lower than the kernel, but that's just a feeling
13:33.28Crofton|workhrw, FILESPATHPKG += "u-boot-git" does not seem to help
13:33.49Crofton|workI am getting somewhat annoyed with stuff like this
13:34.04Crofton|workrebuild no longer works as expected, python 2.5 going away etc
13:35.24mckoantsjsieb: in any case you have to be sure that need the kernel and ramdisk size do not overlap
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13:36.58tsjsiebmckoan: my custom uImage is 20208840 bytes (u-boot says) so I guess that's 0x1345CC8 (hex) to add to the 0x80a00000 address of the kernel.img)
13:38.31tsjsieb( or should that be multiplied by 8, as the hex might be bits
13:38.51mckoantsjsieb: fat kernel, and the ramdisk size ?
13:39.31woglindetsjsieb cant you try to load kernel and initrd seperated
13:40.56tsjsiebmckoan: ramdisk I try to use is console-image cpio.gz of 7.4MB
13:41.38tsjsiebwoglinde: you mean with u-boot, as in two different "tftp 'address' file" actions?
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13:44.46ant_workhrw: fwiw u-boot_git for c7x0 takes the patch
13:46.24woglindetsjsieb load the kernel to an adress and load the initrd to another not overlaping address
13:47.40hrwant_work: my c7x0 is rusting
13:48.11ant_work:) I don't see whj it shouldn't work for beagleboard
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13:58.45tsjsiebwoglinde: I think I do that, look in log: http://rafb.net/p/gl1u3C75.html both seem to be o.k when I check them with 'iminfo' on line 39 and 50, but when I 'bootm' the second one fails
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14:01.04woglindehm seems something wrong with your ramdisk
14:02.45tsjsiebhmm, or maybe the adress I use, I just tested it with the 'example ramdisk.img of compulab' on the same adress, and that fails in the same way
14:03.12tsjsieband that ramdisk does work, when I load it to 0x80600000
14:03.34woglindeand when you load your other ramdisk there?
14:03.45woglindemaybee ist beyound mem limit
14:03.50woglindefor the kernel
14:04.21tsjsiebits to fat for that place, it will override the kernel, there the kernel is on 0x80a00000
14:08.51mckoantsjsieb: Load Address: 00000000 ???
14:09.18tsjsiebthat it's to fat, might be possible, it's 7.4 MB (Angstrom console image) I'm currently rebuilding it with uclibc
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14:10.55ant_worktsjsieb: time ago I found this post: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2008-February/029672.html
14:11.21ant_workproblem was CONFIG_INITRD_TAG
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14:11.52tsjsiebmckoan: it is the same in the example ramdisk.img from compulab, wich does work. I'm not shure, but maybe it's only used when written to flash?
14:13.54pwgenthe zaurus nand layout is useing  a 7M(sys)/32m(root)/ - rest (home) layout.  what image fits into the rootfs  ( except the console-image ) ?
14:14.11ant_workpwgen: console-image with uclib
14:14.13ant_workhttp://ja.pastebin.ca/1173295?srch=noop
14:14.34ant_workwas 2.2 mb
14:14.42pwgenand what sould i do if i want some graphical interface ?
14:15.07CIA-3503Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdc13ea62f2 10openembedded.git/recipes/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_svn.bb: gpe-conf: bump RV in svn recipe
14:15.09CIA-3503Florian Boor <florian.boor@kernelconcepts.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb182d05b9b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs.inc: update gpe-conf
14:15.18ant_workiirc there are 5.7mb in total if you're using u-boot
14:15.25ant_workpwgen: ^^
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14:16.32ant_workpwgen: ah..sorry..you mean mtd2
14:17.05ant_workopie-image, x11-image, x11-gpe-image will fit
14:17.24pwgenas i remember the "old" origianl image used something like 50% root/50% home . what  was the reason to use 32mb>root/rest>home instead of useing all for root ?
14:17.45ant_workreson is bootloader
14:18.06ant_workSharp bootloader doesn't allow repartitioning
14:18.15ant_work(ell..almost ;-)
14:19.37pwgenwith kexec and uboot i can strip down the system area to   approx 2 mb and can define it by kernel cmdline , ( who is using sharp bootloader ? )
14:19.42mckoantsjsieb: 7.4 MB ramdisk is not a problem, your problem is not its size
14:20.24ant_workpwgen: yep..you'll loose the 'nand backup' utilites provided by 2nd kernel
14:20.26mckoantsjsieb: a lready asked you whether you have a device memory map
14:20.40mckoantsjsieb: ram start and size
14:20.41ant_workpwgen: I never used these
14:20.54ant_workis really a waste of nand
14:21.14hrwant_work: nand backup is not in nand
14:21.31ant_workI mean the utility to save your 'home'
14:21.32tsjsiebmckoan: I don't know, where can I find that?
14:21.37hrwant_work: it is in diagnostics which is in prom
14:21.48mckoantsjsieb: compulab
14:21.52ant_workhrw: there are two copies: one in PROM
14:21.52pwgeni can do nand backup useing the system menu , ( yes that works only if zou have no broken nand ) and providing a backup funtion to kexec will not be a problem
14:22.01ant_workhrw: Fn + D+M
14:22.14ant_workdifferent is D+M
14:22.20mckoantsjsieb: is hard to grope the way without hardware and without knowing exactly what are you doing there
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14:22.51tsjsiebmckoan: I'm afraid there documentation is not very good
14:23.42mckoantsjsieb: unfortunately I know I already faced to them
14:26.45tsjsieband support / reaction time might be even worse
14:27.31ant_workbtw...that patch for detecting UBOOT_LOAD_ADDRESS...
14:27.42ant_worksomeone tested it..I don't understand all :/
14:28.18mckoantsjsieb: let's supposse you have 'only' 64MB ram
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14:29.17tsjsiebMemory: 64MB 64MB = 128MB total
14:29.18tsjsiebMemory: 122592KB available (3760K code, 492K data, 128K init)
14:30.07tsjsiebmight this be usefull ( that's what linux kernel tells me, and it should be, by cm-x300 type number)
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14:30.52sledgeashello
14:31.51sledgeasI have compiled opie (bitbake opie-image) , enlarged the resulting opie-image.rootfs.ext2 and launched using http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/Angstrom/qemu-system-arm parameters . but qemu writes out Bluetooth: RFCOM ver 1.8 and does not boot anything further (ie no graphics). how could i start seeing the opie desktop?
14:32.55tsjsiebmm I have to leave, thanks for help, will have to search on tomorrow again
14:33.09tsjsiebgoodnight
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14:34.49szsoftwarehello
14:34.57woglindehi sz
14:34.58florianhi szsoftware
14:35.47szsoftwareI asked it yesterday, but the advice did not work for me. (I'm quite sure, I did it in the wrong way).
14:36.30szsoftwareHow can I tell bitbake on the fly, which DISTRO I wanna bake, w/o defining in local.conf?
14:36.57hrwdefine it in conf/auto.conf :D
14:37.38szsoftwareI wanna be able to bitbake in several consoles different distro/images
14:37.45mickeylthe use different build dirs
14:37.48hrwso do few build dirs
14:37.51mickeyl:D
14:38.14szsoftwareI defined tmpdir with ${DISTRO} vars
14:38.24hrwinsane you are
14:38.29szsoftwarewhy?
14:38.49hrwuse few build dirs
14:40.04pb_I guess it ought to work to pass DISTRO from the environment if you want.
14:40.32pb_it does seem a bit strange to do that rather than having a build directory (and local.conf) per target DISTRO, but I don't think there's any real reason why it couldn't be done.
14:40.42szsoftwareI dont understand. Before I start bitbake I have to edit local.conf. I wanna avoid that, when I wanna bitbake a package for testing in a another distro cntext
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14:42.41hrwI wonder why locale-base-ar-kw contains all from libc6 here.
14:42.47pwgendid anyone managed to display the connman applet with illume ( enlightenment ) ?
14:43.43szsoftwaremust leave now, thanks for help/advices
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14:47.05hrw/home/hrw/devel/buglabs/oe-dev-bug/build/tmp/cross/armv6/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.2.4/include/limits.h:122:61: error: limits.h: No such file or directory
14:47.08hrwFSCK
14:47.27Tartarushrw, I've got glibc blowing up on some targets due to .debug junk
14:49.56ant_workI admit my ignorance, but I'm a bit lost with store_adr and load_adr....
14:50.04ant_workhttp://www.pastebin.ca/1414261
14:50.18hrwsame here
14:51.03ant_workhow is  0xc0008000 => 0xA0008000.. remapped?
14:58.50Gnutoohi,can serial works with just rx and ground if you only need to receive kernel messages?
14:59.29waiteGnuToo, yes
14:59.44Gnutoothanks a lot
15:00.45mckoanant_work: looks like a CP15 MMU setting cached/buffered
15:01.12ant_workmckoan: is Zaurus pxa
15:01.54mckoanant_work: CP15 ia an ARM register ;-)
15:01.55woglindehi gnutoo
15:02.13ant_workmckoan: I thought was a machine...like CPM
15:02.25ant_workconfused by the name :-)
15:02.35mckoanant_work: np :-D
15:02.56mckoanant_work: what exactly are you digging there?
15:03.13ant_workthe pacth flow on the ML and I was testing it
15:03.24Gnutoowoglinde, hi
15:03.27ant_workjust unsure about output..I expected other values
15:04.11ant_workperhaps I misunderstand: http://ja.pastebin.ca/1173295?srch=noop
15:04.17Gnutoowoglinde, by the way do you know BFD (the library used for the binary format description) ?
15:04.41ant_workmckoan: ## Booting image at a0800000 ...
15:04.50Gnutoowoglinde, because I have: ld: BFD (GNU Binutils) 2.19 assertion fail /home/embedded/oetmp_pma/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/binutils-cross-2.19-r2/binutils-2.19/bfd/elflink.c:2511
15:05.02Gnutooand I use oabi+hard float
15:05.18ant_workmckoan: vs. #store_adr = 000e0000 #load_adr  = 00008000
15:05.36ant_workiirc uboot won't boot XIP so copies the kernel in ram
15:05.52ant_workbefore launching it
15:06.46mckoanant_work: looks ok
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15:11.56ant_workI just can't see if the patch really detects the good value
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15:14.12woglindegnutoo ugh  this has nobody tested
15:14.16woglindeoabi and hardfloar
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15:15.17hrwant_work: look at this:
15:15.19hrw17:14 hrw@home:boot$ /usr/local/poky/eabi-glibc/arm/bin/arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-objdump -p vmlinux-2.6.27.2  | sed -n 's/LOAD.*vaddr \([^ ]*\).*/\1/p'|wc -l
15:15.22hrw2
15:15.31hrwshould not return one?
15:15.43kergothmorning
15:16.02woglindehi kergoth
15:17.16florianhi kergoth
15:17.24hrw-> off
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15:19.35Gnutoowoglinde, lol ok thanks
15:19.49ant_workhrw|afk: that's why I'm dubious
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15:20.22Gnutoowoglinde, as I use a chroot and that the device rootfs is hard float I must use hard float...and the kernel is 2.4 so I must use oabi...
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15:30.32florianibot: seen dth?
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15:32.37pwgenhi florian
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15:33.06florianhi pwgen
15:33.28pwgen*G* bacula bb files allready added ? *G*
15:34.04florianremembers having a question about it
15:34.52pb_hi kergoth
15:36.35florianpwgen: right... wht was the reason to override do_configure?
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15:42.03pwgenflorian: i think i added the sqlite feature
15:42.49florianpwgen: ah that's what we have EXTRA_OECONF for.
15:43.46florianpwgen: There is a variable for the sourceforge mirrors too: SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR
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15:44.38pwgenflorian: i and mybe the static feature but thisis maybe not a common feature
15:45.16woglindethe openoffice build is a mess
15:45.48florianpwgen: should'n matter - you can put the whole list in there
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15:47.21pwgenflorian: by the way mtx is also needed ( mtx -> tape handling utilities )
15:50.04ant_workflorian: are the old preferred-gpe-versions-2.[6|7].inc still used by some distro?
15:50.39ant_work(I can't grep from here)
15:51.27florianant_work: I don't think so... unless somone builds angstrom 2007.1
15:53.24hrw|afkant_work: your method gives 0xc0008000 for bug kernel and I use 0x80008000 for it
15:53.50ant_workhrw: 2 options: patch is broken or we don't understand
15:53.53ant_work:)
15:56.13ant_workflorian: some older gpe recipes could be cleaned out if we keep the latest preferred-gpe-versions
15:56.17ant_worka lot
15:57.15ant_workah..and what about sharprom-compatible...needing external toolchain
15:57.27ant_workfor me, I'd remove it from OE
15:57.45hrw|afkant_work: leave it
15:57.57hrw|afk-> packing for weekend
15:58.02florianant_work: do not clean up too much
15:58.09florianhrw|afk: enjoy
15:58.09hrw|afkso have a nice rest of week and see you on Tuesday
15:58.30ant_workbye hrw
15:59.01ant_workflorian: some embedix kernels are now put in nonworking
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15:59.53ant_workI doubt a build for c7x0 would have success
16:00.02ant_work(sharprom-compat)
16:01.24florianoh great.... buiding German locale files kills qemu
16:04.19pwgenant_work: build for akita : task 6780 from 7238 ... in round about 1 hour i know it gpe-image works ..
16:04.44ant_workbad news for you..it failed 2 ays ago...
16:05.06ant_workx11-gpe-image was fine, though
16:05.12ant_workx11-image nod
16:06.26ant_workpwgen: btw do you see   ERROR: '[]' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the
16:06.28ant_workruntime entity 'virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-2.95' but it wasn't
16:06.30ant_workfound in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables
16:06.33ant_workstill?
16:07.09pwgenant_work: hmm i think i have seen something . ( last night )
16:07.19ant_worksee bug 4784
16:07.34ant_workflorian: sharp schrott
16:08.30pwgen*LOL*
16:08.39ant_workpwgen: it was cleaned by hrw for c7x0, can't remember for others Z
16:09.02pwgenant_work: i build with bitbake -k gpe-image ..
16:09.10ant_workgood luck
16:09.12ant_work;)
16:09.25ant_workI can tell you where it broke...mom
16:09.52pwgenant_work: i have managed to get illume runnin on my Z
16:10.05ant_workhow is the 'splash'?
16:10.35ant_workpeople spent lot of time on it (beagle)
16:10.45pwgen?  the boot screen ?
16:12.06ant_workalpha-channels and so on...
16:12.19pwgenslow as expected .
16:12.54ant_worknot so slow as tinderbox....
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16:13.32pwgeni have the problem, that key repeat isn't working
16:14.49pwgenand i needed some tweaks on xinit stuff to get it started by gpe-dm
16:18.25ant_workflorian: btw gpe-today and gpe-nmf failing
16:19.12florianant_work: both are quite obsolete by now :-(
16:19.36ant_workI was looking in the sources for 'install -s'
16:20.03ant_worknever used those
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16:21.23florianMy todo list for gpe images is long... I should start to work on it some time.
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16:24.33ant_workI was talking with rschuster before: after building gpe-image or x11-gpe-java-image I ended up with wrong gtk+  .pc file... Package 'gdk-linux-fb-2.0', required by 'GTK+', not found
16:24.49ant_workwhich package can have done this?
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18:21.37Crofton|workkergoth, I double checked, replacing the "." with a "+" builds :)
18:21.59kergothit's still wrong.  "foo :bar:baz" is not correct
18:23.15Crofton|workI agree, I will use the =. form here
18:23.40Crofton|workbut, it is something to look for in patches
18:23.44Crofton|workand commits
18:23.58kergothit's always been something to look for
18:24.05kergothtry manipulating BBPATH with += and =+.. good luck
18:24.51Crofton|worknot to many people do that
18:24.55kergothhttp://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch02.html#id869030
18:25.12kergothif people haven't read the bitbake manual, they need to take the time to do so.  it's not like there's that much to our file format
18:25.17Crofton|workI suspect we will start to see more of the FILESPATHPKG stuff
18:31.41pb__I suspect that += might only be "working" for you because you don't actually need anything from the FILESPATHPKG element that has the spurious space on the front.
18:32.04pb__i.e. in your case, your recipe doesn't actually call in anything from the uclibc/ subdirectory, so it doesn't matter that this part of the path has been damaged.
18:35.05Crofton|workyeah, I don't know why so we need to be extra careful watching peoples fixes
18:36.53pb__I'm not sure that this is any bigger a deal than the countless other ways that you can screw things up by checking in bogus patches, but yeah.  if it gets to be a problem then it'd be easy enough to have insane.bbclass check for unwanted leading spaces on elements of FILESPATHPKG.
18:37.31pb__i.e. if you have FILESPATHPKG = "...: uclibc:..", and " uclibc" doesn't exist but "uclibc" does, then I think it'd probably be legitimate to flag that as an error.
18:38.12szsoftwareevening
18:38.42Crofton|workpb_, I'm trying to understand more of this stuff better
18:39.00pb__of course, there's no inherent reason why putting leading spaces on filenames is invalid (so it wouldn't be appropriate, for example, to just strip them off unconditionally) but I don't think it'd be unreasonable for insane.bbclass or some other optional checker to diagnose it.
18:39.06Crofton|workfor too long we have let a small number of people deal with nitpicking commits
18:39.58szsoftwarepeople, are issues known, which result from a tmpdir with ending / in local.conf?
18:40.44pb__not that I know of, but I wouldn't be surprised if it triggered another variant of the autoconf symlink problem.
18:41.01pb__if you're getting "source directory is already configured" kind of errors then that's probably what has happened.
18:41.39pb__otherwise, you might need to be a bit more specific about the kinds of issues you're experiencing
18:42.33szsoftwarewait, pastebin follows ..
18:45.13kergoththere are probably places in the metadata where we just blindly basename() without checking for a trailing /, and choke
18:45.33szsoftwarehttp://pastebin.com/m3166c1b5
18:45.33szsoftwareseems to be same problem like this? http://www.mail-archive.com/angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org/msg02877.html
18:46.50szsoftwarewhen I delete the ending / from tmpdir, the sanity check regarding tmpdir fails, how can I adapt the somewhere stored last used tmpdir. Don't wanna rebuild the whole tmp dir because of that little changing
18:49.20CIA-3503Angus Ainslie <nytowl@openmoko.org> 07fso/milestone5.5 * r71b973cef2 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/sms-sentry/sms-sentry.bb): sms-sentry : add new recipe for NeoFreerunner locate tool
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18:49.29CIA-3503Angus Ainslie <nytowl@openmoko.org> 07fso/milestone5.5 * r021c08c41f 10openembedded.git/recipes/openmoko-projects/paroli_git.bb: paroli : update the postinst scripts to work offline and online
18:51.41pb__kergoth`class: oh right, yeah, I guess
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19:01.40woglinde~seen booxter
19:01.41ibotbooxter is currently on #oe (2m 29s) #elinux (2m 29s), last said: 'woglinde: no problem :)'.
19:01.54booxterwoglinde: i'm here :)
19:02.04woglindebooxter I could build qt-e for beagleboard without problems
19:02.13booxterwoglinde: mistery :)
19:04.29woglindeno problem with designer
19:04.46woglindebooxter what do you actually profiling within the qtlibs?
19:05.12booxterwoglinde: qtlibs themselves
19:05.30woglindehm something specific?
19:06.43booxterwoglinde: I can't make qt-embedded run more or less effective through directfb layer (very slow screen updates with high cpu load) on my hardware (mips stb225). I want to know where is the bottle-neck
19:07.38woglindeah
19:07.41woglindeokay
19:07.50woglindesure it isnt directfb?
19:08.42woglindehm
19:08.57woglindeseems we dont have directfb enabled in oe
19:09.49woglindehm
19:09.53woglindethats not good
19:11.14booxterwoglinde: just add -plugin-gfx-directfb or smth like that to EXTRA_OECONF
19:11.34szsoftwaredoes no one has a hint regarding the "tmpdir has changed" issue?
19:12.38woglindebooxter hm and packag stuff
19:12.47woglindebut why we dont have that in
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19:19.57szsoftwaremaybe the question was too silly, I found the saved_tmpdir file after I studied sanity.bbclass ..
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19:28.32szsoftwarecan someone please take a look at this QA failure: http://pastebin.com/m3166c1b5
19:28.37szsoftwarethank you
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19:46.11eFfeMszsoftware: does this dir exist: /media/thinkpad-homes/sven/oe/build/angstrom.1/tmp//staging/armv6-novfp-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib
19:46.23eFfeMalso not to happy with the // in the path
19:50.17szsoftwareeFfeM: I corrected the // because I assumed it would cause this issue, but this did not the trick
19:50.53szsoftwareeFfeM: the dir exists
19:53.36eFfeMszsoftware: then it beats me, never seen this error before with QA, and had no problem building console-image for sheevaplug and beagle
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19:55.59szsoftwareeFfeM: I now try building console-image with distro=minimal in a fresh tmpdir and look what happens. Tomorrow I have the result ...
19:56.15szsoftwareeFfeM: thank you
19:56.19eFfeMgl!
19:56.38eFfeMbtw the distro i used is angstrom
19:57.10szsoftwareeFfeM: me too
19:58.04eFfeMszsoftware: for what platform ?
19:58.32eFfeMah saw it in the pastebin htc
19:58.38eFfeMhtcpolaris
19:59.27eFfeMand the files are there too ?
19:59.31eFfeM(in the dir)
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20:21.28CIA-35gcc: For 4.2.2 and newer, set LICENSE = GPLv3
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20:21.30CIA-3503Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r3acdae6e98 10openembedded.git/recipes/alsa/ (6 files): alsa-lib: This is LGPL not GPL
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20:21.51CIA-3503Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbe92de3d29 10openembedded.git/recipes/m4/ (m4_1.4.11.bb m4_1.4.12.bb): m4: 1.4.11 and 1.4.12 are GPLv3
20:21.54CIA-3503Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5241c2d144 10openembedded.git/recipes/samba/ (4 files): samba: 3.2.8 and newer is GPLv3
20:21.59CIA-3503Tom Rini <trini@embeddedalley.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r857e0476d7 10openembedded.git/recipes/libiconv/ (libiconv.inc libiconv_1.12.bb): libiconv: 1.12 has GPLv3 binaries LGPLv2.1 libraries
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20:37.28GNUtoohi,I've some schematics here: http://www.archopen.org/tiki-browse_image.php?galleryId=7&sort_mode=user_desc&imageId=119 but when I look with the voltmeter the voltage of the serial port I've 0.02v...that's strange
20:37.58GNUtooI'd like to have serial port to try an omap 2.6 kernel...
20:38.15GNUtoos/omap/omap-1/
20:43.21GNUtoowaite, are you still there? what do you think of it?
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20:46.38kergothanyone know of a good "freeze" type script/class/whatever right now, for locking down package versions?
20:46.44kergothi know I've seen a number of incarnations of such things over the years
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21:00.45GNUtooah ok I understand: cat /proc/cmdline  => console=null
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21:14.50florianheh
21:14.56florian~lart opkg
21:14.56ibotbeats opkg into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy
21:15.28florianI wonder why do_rootfs takes ages and this stupid thingy is trying to ask ma question
21:17.04pb__heh
21:19.07florianI wonder why /etc/localtime is replaced doring install
21:19.11florianeh during
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21:26.02ant__pb_: chicken-egg question for you ... background: let say I build an image which triggers an initramfs and embeds it in a second kernel. Well, I'd like to create in the same pass an 'installer.tar.gz' containing the second initramfs-kernel and a binary installer.
21:26.36ant__what happens is the 'installer' is created before the kernel is built...
21:26.56ant__all this happens on MACHINE_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND
21:27.10ant__which seems to be the last in the pile
21:29.47ant__btw the initramfs is built as  'EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS' of first image
21:30.27ant__sane solution would be to split the thing in two perhaps...install-image and xy-image
21:35.28pb__yeah, that'd make sense
21:36.02pb__I think you probably want your easy-install-kit thing to be a separate package, rather than trying to stack it as an extra task on your main image.
21:36.43pb__iirc, that's what we used to do with the familiar install kits, though my memory of that stuff is a bit hazy
21:38.55ant__pb_: talking about zaurus-updater / zaurus-2.6.inc ...could come straight from there
21:40.57ant__or I could make the initramfs-kernel DEPENDS on the binary installer...which sounds a bit strange...
21:45.01pb__no, I don't think you want your initramfs-kernel to depend on the binary installer.  you probably just want this (putative) installkit.bb to DEPEND on both things.
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21:51.01ant__pb_: ok, thx I see...I'll put it in EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS, right?
22:09.35ant__pb__: seems it just works ;-) thx again
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23:20.51archae0ptery1Anyone here use opcontrol with vmlinux on
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23:21.19archae0ptery1I can't figure out where to find a kernel that works in the build directory
23:28.44denixTartarus: hey, thanks for cleaning and correcting numerous package licenses! :)
23:33.59Tartarusheh, something I had around due to customer needs, didn't want to loose it
23:35.32denixunderstood, similar reasons here...
23:36.40kergothyou know... its quite easy to reimplement do_unpack/oe_unpack_file using python's ZipFile & TarFile.  wonder why nobody every got aorund to it
23:36.42denixI also have some downgraded pkgs, to avoid GPLv3... like gdbserver-6.6, for example
23:37.13kergothhttp://pastey.net/113732
23:37.41Tartarusdenix, yeah, that too :|
23:41.15Tartaruskergoth, dunno, but that would be real nice to fix
23:41.32TartarusSince you don't always have unzip installed and DEPENDS += unzip-native doesn't work
23:42.01denixTartarus: does it make sense to add those pre-GPLv3 versions to OE? or it's not an issue for the community?
23:42.02Tartarus(since it's not foo_unpack[depends] += unzip-native:do_populate_staging)
23:42.40Tartarusdenix, tbh, I don't know.  In our case we managed to explain that they're better off with gcc/etc that are GPLv3 for what they want
23:42.49Tartarusesp now that libgcc corner case has been resolved
23:43.01kergothTartarus: considering we already require, what, python 2.4 or so, itd be nice to at least use the available functionality that python has..
23:43.09Tartaruskergoth, yeah
23:43.15denixkergoth: is tar.gz the same as tar.Z? I thought those are gzip and compress tarballs...
23:43.37Tartarusdenix, I'm all in favor of stuff that's buildable staying in, so long as someone is going to keep an eye on it
23:43.48TartarusI thought gdb-6.6 was in
23:44.01TartarusSo adding the gdbserver version is trivial
23:44.09TartarusIf you just want to save build-time :)
23:44.16denixbut not standalone gdbserver. there were some other small pieces...
23:44.25kergothdenix: i think you're right, but then the current do_unpack is broken that way too, i just copied & pasted that bit :)
23:44.43kergothits passing tar.Z -> tar -xz instead of the correct tar -xZ, it seems
23:44.48Tartarusdenix, yeah, but at least w/ 6.8 I'd have sworn that building gdb gets you target gdb and target gdbserver packages
23:44.54TartarusShould be the same w/ 6.6
23:45.13Tartarus(I've switched to the gdbserver only variant myself, just saying)
23:47.29denixTartarus: understood. build time is another customers concern - no reason to build something which is not packaged in the images. especially as big as gdb... :)
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23:49.27kergothdenix: ah, gzip can decompress files created by gzip, compress, or pack, automatically, so i guess the zlib using bits should handle either, indeed
23:49.32kergothshrugs
23:49.49kergoth"gzip produces files with a .gz extension. gunzip can decompress files created by gzip, compress or pack. The detection of the input format is automatic. "
23:50.42denixah, nice
23:51.26kergothwhy has Weezer - El Scorcho been stuck in my head all day?
23:53.00denixoh-oh. I guess it's serious...

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