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| 07:42.11 | vsr | i am unable to compile gimp, i get the error: http://pastebin.ca/1373787 |
| 07:42.45 | vsr | it is looking for some definitions missing in libavcodec.h |
| 07:42.53 | vsr | avcodec.h |
| 07:43.06 | vsr | has any of you faced this issue before |
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| 08:37.06 | mpoullet|work | good morning |
| 08:39.29 | vsr | hi |
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| 09:37.32 | CIA-2 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc133a97e0c 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-2.6.24/oxnas/oxnas.diff: linux-2.6.24: tiny jffs2 compile bug for OXNAS machine fixed |
| 09:41.18 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: hi, what about sheevaplug? |
| 09:46.04 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: hi! |
| 09:51.25 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, no news basically ... i think i'll start order two at time this weekend |
| 09:52.17 | valhalla | no chance to get shipment by the italian distributor then? |
| 09:53.30 | gremlin[it] | valhalla, no, cause basically isn't sell from Marvell but from globalscale |
| 09:55.31 | gremlin[it] | on elinux.com there is link to other similar device, one of them is from a Israel company ... no european at now |
| 09:55.38 | mckoan | yes indeed, and globalscale told me that buying >10 items the price won't change |
| 09:55.40 | ant_work | read on Il Sole XXIV Ore 23.03.2009 a tech-report about Marvell and plug-computing |
| 09:55.46 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: have you had a chance to test Qt 4.5.0 I commited to OE? |
| 09:56.16 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: I scheduled such test today |
| 09:56.25 | valhalla | then I guess that I'll order it directly, since there are already 2 of us in the local lug wanting one |
| 09:56.50 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: ok cool. What I have tried: building apps against qt4-x11-free: OK |
| 09:57.05 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: building and running apps against qt4-embedded: OK |
| 09:57.19 | mckoan | valhalla: unfortunately also if I would import many of them I must apply VAT and shipment expenses, so price doesn't change for the final user |
| 09:57.57 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: thats'a a cool news! |
| 09:58.32 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: I try qt4-x11-free now as first |
| 09:59.05 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: for now, I have set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" for all qt 4.5.0 packages (qt4-tools-native, qt4-x11-free, qt4-embedded) so you'll need to override that in your local.conf |
| 10:00.01 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: so if I want qt4-x11-free what do I have to do? |
| 10:00.40 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: add to your local.conf: |
| 10:00.48 | jeremy_laine | PREFERRED_VERSION_qt4-tools-native = "4.5.0" |
| 10:00.50 | jeremy_laine | PREFERRED_VERSION_qt4-x11-free = "4.5.0" |
| 10:00.52 | jeremy_laine | PREFERRED_VERSION_qt4-embedded = "4.5.0" |
| 10:01.17 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: also, do you use "oestats" ? |
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| 10:02.06 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: it's a class that can be used to send build reports to http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/ |
| 10:02.07 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: never used |
| 10:02.08 | gremlin[it] | valhalla, good ... we will try then to build an italian community for sheevaplug ;) |
| 10:02.41 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: see http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/How_do_I_send_automatic_success_and_failure_reports |
| 10:02.45 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: I'll buy a couple of them for personal use (no pusher) |
| 10:03.16 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, hahah ok, good ! |
| 10:03.19 | mckoan | jeremy_laine: sounds interesting, thx for the info |
| 10:03.54 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: I'd be interested if you use it, it allows me to track what versions of Qt have been built / for what machine |
| 10:04.09 | jeremy_laine | mckoan: for instance http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/qt4-embedded/ |
| 10:06.27 | valhalla | does anybody know where xmms-tremor could be available? the URL in the recipe doesn't work anymore, and google doesn't help |
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| 10:14.56 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: do you know how much is shipping cost to ITA for 1 sheevaplug ? |
| 10:15.26 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, only one is about 31$ |
| 10:15.54 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, i suggest to buy 2 ... 32$ for both |
| 10:16.11 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: US $106.83 for 10 units |
| 10:17.03 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: that is good, but you want to bet that customs won't apply VAT to small shipment ;-) |
| 10:17.04 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, i know ... you know how much should be import tax + IVA tax ? |
| 10:17.20 | mckoan | VAT = 20% |
| 10:18.01 | gremlin[it] | and if i remember correct should be 12% or 17% as import tax ... right ? |
| 10:18.13 | mckoan | AFAIK no |
| 10:18.34 | gremlin[it] | just IVA ? |
| 10:19.05 | mckoan | yes |
| 10:19.56 | gremlin[it] | mhh ok ... |
| 10:20.15 | mckoan | is reading a customs document about last import from Taiwan |
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| 10:22.11 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: should be 100 euro including VAT, but I have to ship them to you so add 15 euro + VAT |
| 10:23.22 | mckoan | gremlin[it]: I think you can get it at the same cost directly from US |
| 10:23.51 | gremlin[it] | mckoan, yes ... |
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| 11:15.57 | rkirti | Hello everyone. Can someone here please give me some information on the maemo recipes in the OE tree? as in, their status: is the maemo integration on the N770 device complete or are they skewed bb files as of now ? |
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| 11:19.53 | vsr | which package will give me a file manager |
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| 11:53.20 | hrw | morning |
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| 11:55.55 | florian | hi hrw |
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| 11:56.46 | hrw | rkirti: Oe do not contain whole maemo |
| 11:57.05 | hrw | rkirti: and 770 (not n770) maemo support was iirc dropped long time ago |
| 11:59.05 | rkirti | hrw, true, maemo isnt wholly contained. Florian had placed OE integration as one of the GSoC ideas and I am interested in that. I was asking this to know if I could use the existing bb files and build on top of that work or if support for n770 was complete so that I could replicate it for another device. |
| 11:59.23 | hrw | rkirti: gsoc for maemo? |
| 11:59.48 | rkirti | hrw, yes. for maemo |
| 11:59.52 | hrw | link? |
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| 12:00.12 | rkirti | hrw, http://wiki.maemo.org/GSoC_2009/Project_ideas |
| 12:01.04 | hrw | I see |
| 12:01.22 | hrw | rkirti: maemo 2008 'diablo' recipes are available in experimental Poky branch |
| 12:01.29 | rkirti | hrw, I had spoken about this to Florian but thought it might be a better idea to aks if anyone on the channel knew about the status of the work Koen and Florian did in 2005 rather than pester those busy devels with my naive queries :( |
| 12:01.44 | rkirti | hrw, Ok, thanks, will take a look at those. |
| 12:01.45 | hrw | rkirti: http://git.pokylinux.org/cgit.cgi/experimental/meta-maemo/ - with it you can boot to basic hildon-desktop |
| 12:01.59 | hrw | rkirti: I worked on those recipes some months ago :) |
| 12:02.13 | hrw | rkirti: if you will get them merged into OE I would be happy :) |
| 12:02.29 | hrw | but no support from me for them rather as I am not interested in maemo anymore |
| 12:03.00 | hrw | kdepimpi idea should get killed. that application was ugly fork |
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| 12:03.54 | rkirti | hrw, :) My vested interests are on the OE side as well :P The only reason I want to take up this GSoC project is that I have been working with OE for the Atmel eval boards and want to move from OE user to Oe contributor. |
| 12:04.19 | hrw | ;) |
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| 12:11.36 | keesj | is tempted to pick up this maemo task pretty soon |
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| 12:23.40 | Crofton|work | does COMPATIBLE_MACHINE work in u-boot recipes? |
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| 12:27.26 | vsr | are there any docs which say what packages does what? |
| 12:27.47 | vsr | i know i need some feature, but not sure which package i need to use |
| 12:27.53 | XorA | Crofton|work: should do, if it doesnt its a bug |
| 12:28.28 | Crofton|work | I'm going to push a recipe for u-boot-2009.3 |
| 12:28.48 | Crofton|work | and mark it as COMPATIBEL_MACHINE for boards I have tested |
| 12:28.54 | Crofton|work | and let other s add their boards |
| 12:29.10 | XorA | good plan |
| 12:29.14 | Crofton|work | or, should I mark it DEF_PREF="-1_ and use prefered version |
| 12:29.33 | Crofton|work | the problem is, I would need to mark the git redicpe DEF_PREF=-1 |
| 12:29.37 | XorA | I like the COMPATIBLE_MACHINE idea, it tells people what is actually tested |
| 12:29.43 | Crofton|work | me to |
| 12:31.08 | XorA | maybe put an explanation in the commit message |
| 12:31.14 | XorA | some people sometime read them :-) |
| 12:31.55 | DJWillis | Crofton|work: compat machine seems nice and elegent. No messing about and clear, we know it works on on your own head messages ;-). |
| 12:33.20 | Aegiron | I've updated the openembedded dev branche just yet, and noticed qt-embedded 4.5 now has a recipe. However, it wants to 'bitbake' both 4.4.3 as well as 4.5 |
| 12:33.26 | Aegiron | is this normal? |
| 12:33.39 | Crofton|work | I will break people depending on the git recipe sorting the highest |
| 12:34.12 | _cpo_ | i have a SIL3811 SATA<->PATA converter connected to a sata port of one of my machines |
| 12:34.34 | _cpo_ | anybody does know how to get this converter to work under linux? because my CF card that is connected to this chip is now recognized by the kernel |
| 12:34.43 | _cpo_ | (i know this is a bit offtopic here) |
| 12:35.31 | Crofton|work | I'll think how to push with minimum breakage |
| 12:35.35 | hrw | _cpo_: such converters iirc are transparent |
| 12:35.39 | Crofton|work | then work on the git recipe being the default :) |
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| 12:43.27 | ant_work | Crofton|work: what's wrong with SRCREVs? |
| 12:43.45 | Crofton|work | in the u-boot git recipe? |
| 12:43.53 | ant_work | yep |
| 12:44.01 | ant_work | why add another .bb? |
| 12:44.11 | Crofton|work | The original comment suggested using the _git recipe to build 2009.3 |
| 12:44.27 | Crofton|work | so you tet for that SRC_REV |
| 12:44.48 | Crofton|work | then in a few months, someone else changes the rev to test some new 733t u-boot feature |
| 12:45.00 | Crofton|work | and messes it up :) |
| 12:45.33 | Crofton|work | there are lots of boards still using old u-boot's |
| 12:45.46 | Crofton|work | but I have some boards that were only recently supported |
| 12:45.51 | Crofton|work | well, without patches |
| 12:46.04 | Crofton|work | the point is to provide stable builds |
| 12:46.36 | Crofton|work | the git recipes, y design, do not provide a stable user experience :) |
| 12:46.44 | _cpo_ | hrw: i thought so, too but during boot it gets i/o timeouts |
| 12:46.46 | ant_work | I'll see if u-boot for Zaurus (very old SRCREV) is still ok (_git) |
| 12:46.51 | ant_work | later on |
| 12:47.17 | Crofton|work | no hurry if you aren't having trouble :) |
| 12:47.37 | ant_work | btw: there were a patch floating in the ML for auto-extraction of OFFSET and ADDR |
| 12:47.50 | ant_work | abybody tested it? |
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| 12:48.12 | ant_work | s/a patch/patches/ |
| 12:48.41 | Crofton|work | dunno |
| 12:48.52 | Crofton|work | scary stuff :) |
| 12:49.17 | ant_work | ok, I volunteer then |
| 12:49.19 | ant_work | ;-) |
| 12:50.23 | ant_work | ah, and possibly the mkimage-openmoko crap is away... |
| 12:50.52 | ant_work | really, t's long I don't play u-boot ... |
| 12:51.04 | vsr | are there any docs which specify which bb file does what? |
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| 12:53.35 | ant_work | Crofton|work: no, in kernel.bbclass is still depends = "%s u-boot-mkimage-openmoko-native" % depends |
| 12:54.00 | Crofton|work | that is to make mkimage |
| 12:54.01 | ant_work | I thought hrw sanitized this |
| 12:54.18 | Crofton|work | I made a u-boot-tools recipe at some point |
| 12:55.07 | ant_work | see, we have u-boot-mkimage-native_1.3.2.bb |
| 12:57.03 | ant_work | why should I download tons of OM crap for my machine? |
| 12:57.25 | Crofton|work | I think the reicpe is poorly names |
| 12:57.39 | Crofton|work | I do not think it leads to tons of om stuff |
| 12:57.46 | ant_work | ;-) |
| 12:57.52 | ant_work | just SRC_URI |
| 12:58.12 | ant_work | but you got the point |
| 12:58.19 | Crofton|work | yeah |
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| 13:04.30 | hrw | om one is overpatched |
| 13:04.40 | hrw | 1,3,2 one is sane |
| 13:04.56 | XorA | the om one was just the first one, thats all |
| 13:05.07 | XorA | its fine to downgrade it and use later better ones |
| 13:07.32 | ant_work | btw why aren't the older version tagged and merged in uboot_git? |
| 13:07.46 | Crofton|work | no one got around to it |
| 13:07.49 | ant_work | thre are 7 + _git recipes! |
| 13:08.08 | Crofton|work | so? |
| 13:08.53 | ant_work | he he...anyway is not as bad as /linux dir :-) |
| 13:09.00 | Crofton|work | no |
| 13:09.01 | ant_work | (overpopulated too) |
| 13:09.24 | Crofton|work | I should talk with some people abobut the omap recipes |
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| 13:11.34 | XorA | the problem with stuff like linux/ and u-boot/ is someone pops up makes it work with their board, then dissapears |
| 13:11.59 | ant_work | btw do I understand right, the 'optimal' way to add recipes/patches is creating a specific subdir and not xy-override_machine? |
| 13:12.59 | _cpo_ | hrw: ok its really transparent ... the failure was a misconfigured bios |
| 13:14.40 | ant_work | XorA: now that you're the first tosa-2.6.29 on the world, would you help me to finally close the packaging issues with zaurus-updater? |
| 13:15.11 | ant_work | don't tell me you had any during build ;-) |
| 13:16.37 | ant_work | I for me would build it as separate package and not as EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS |
| 13:17.46 | ant_work | thesing proposed the same (throw away the installkits) but koen was against |
| 13:18.05 | ant_work | you see..no maintainers..anarchy |
| 13:18.36 | kgilmer | good morning |
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| 13:21.25 | Crofton|work | kgilmer, gm |
| 13:21.37 | Crofton|work | how are things in bugworld |
| 13:22.27 | kgilmer | pretty good Crofton|work :) I've somehow figured out how to get some time to write documentation. |
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| 13:22.49 | Crofton|work | masochist |
| 13:22.53 | kgilmer | so, i'm starting over with our wiki :) |
| 13:23.00 | Crofton|work | most of us spend our time figuring out how not to write docs :) |
| 13:23.04 | kgilmer | haha |
| 13:23.36 | Crofton|work | I am particularly slow at writing |
| 13:23.36 | kgilmer | well, i've found that being able to say "for info on that go here..." is faster than having a long conversation about the same things over and over. |
| 13:24.08 | kgilmer | and most of our wiki was written by...<ahem> QA people |
| 13:24.16 | kgilmer | which is why i'm taking a chainsaw to it. |
| 13:24.38 | kgilmer | hopes none of those qa people are listening |
| 13:24.49 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 13:25.07 | kgilmer | how are things on your end Crofton|work |
| 13:25.08 | kgilmer | ? |
| 13:25.35 | Crofton|work | good |
| 13:25.51 | Crofton|work | plenty to keep me busy and some is even paying a little |
| 13:25.56 | _cpo_ | anybody ever tried building xserver 1.6 with OE? |
| 13:26.28 | _cpo_ | I'm getting a libtool No such file or... error, but libtool/libtool-cross/libtool-native is build and staged |
| 13:26.44 | kgilmer | good to hear Crofton|work |
| 13:32.14 | cbrake | tsjsieb: sent you an email -- let me know if it does not make sense |
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| 13:34.56 | tsjsieb | cbrake: Thank you very much, I think I can get further with this :) |
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| 13:43.50 | booxter | For my project I use directfb-1.0.0 (not 1.2.7). That's why I have PREFERRED_VERSION_directfb = "1.0.0" in my machine config file. I'd like to apply project-specific patch for directfb. For this, I copy directfb_1.0.0.bb, directfb.inc and files/ directory into my overlay directory, modify bitbake for patch applying, update PR variable. But somehow OE build system doesn't compile mine "1.0.0-r7" package but generic "1.0.0-r6" one. WTF? If I build directfb wi |
| 13:43.55 | booxter | th 'bitbake directfb-1.0.0-r7' then OE compiles the proper recipe version but not for generic building through deps |
| 13:44.14 | booxter | and directfb-1.0.0-r7 somehow depends on directfb-1.0.0-r6 :-\ |
| 13:49.03 | Sinky | hi guys |
| 13:49.28 | Sinky | I am trying to compile x264 with OE. I put in .bb in EXTRA_OECONF = "--extra-cflags=\"-O3 -Wall\"" .. but when I try to build the package using bitbake ./configure takes only the first argument .. Here it will take only -O3 and say Unknown option -Wall", ignored (in log.configure) |
| 13:49.32 | Sinky | If I ./configure it from the command line (without bitbake).. --extra-cflags can take lots of arguments... |
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| 14:02.17 | XorA | ~curse n810 |
| 14:02.17 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, n810 ! |
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| 14:03.56 | booxter | hrw, maybe you can help with my directfb problem? Seems that you are one of the people who understands the inners of OE... |
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| 14:15.33 | Crofton|work | well u-boot 2009.3 does not work on the OSK |
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| 14:17.03 | likewise | Sinky: how would you type it from the command line. Can you use pastebin.ca to show me? |
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| 14:18.44 | hrw | ;) |
| 14:19.16 | hrw | booxter: read about bitbake collections. you can set priorities for overlay |
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| 14:38.33 | gr8 | my gdk.pc fails a sanity check, which library generates gdk.pc |
| 14:46.15 | XorA | I hate people who ask a question and quit 2 minutes later |
| 14:47.19 | rkirti | XorA, I am not defending him , but he could be facing a bad net connection. |
| 14:47.38 | XorA | rkirti: then you get a different message |
| 14:48.38 | rkirti | XorA, ah I see. I am sorry then, my fault. [/me hasnt used web-based irc clients toom much] |
| 14:50.22 | XorA | rkirti: get it a lot from non web clients as well, people seem to think we are awake every millisecond :-) |
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| 14:53.11 | starox | is it false ? :) |
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| 14:53.36 | XorA | starox: very false :-) we need to drink beer occasionally |
| 14:53.42 | rkirti | XorA, I ld agree, and I feel very sorry for the same. [However, an irrelevant note here - in institutions like ours, our LUGs have instilled a *deep* respect in us for devels, so we do try and ensure people dont do such things, atleast the Linux users we know.] |
| 14:54.27 | XorA | rkirti: its more annoying that we cant help them because they left :-) |
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| 15:06.50 | recalcati_oe | midori and epiphany are displaying both messages like this: http://pastebin.com/d2a462bc . any idea? |
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| 15:07.28 | recalcati_oe | in beagleboard using angstrom |
| 15:07.44 | XorA | no idea, its all foreign to me :-) |
| 15:07.54 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:08.04 | recalcati_oe | morning |
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| 15:12.44 | mckoan | recalcati_oe: missin java stuff ? |
| 15:17.12 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
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| 15:17.29 | recalcati_oe | java stuff ? |
| 15:17.36 | recalcati_oe | really ? I need it ? |
| 15:17.52 | recalcati_oe | phoneme or similar ? |
| 15:18.25 | mckoan | recalcati_oe: try opening a simpler page as first |
| 15:18.35 | recalcati_oe | I remember that with oe commit 768fe337b086a509a1381f9b1000faf1e99689cd midori worked |
| 15:18.39 | rschuster | isn't this about JavaScript? |
| 15:19.04 | recalcati_oe | mckoan: now I have rebuild all again, it take be some minutes to try |
| 15:19.25 | pb_ | that isn't java, it's a mixture of javascript and css |
| 15:20.38 | pb_ | you don't, luckily, need java to render the google page :-) |
| 15:21.09 | pb_ | (actually I don't think you actually need javascript either, but you do need to be able to at least parse the html correctly and that seems to be where your browsers are falling down.) |
| 15:21.11 | recalcati_oe | pb_: yes, but that messages are not nice to see inside the web page |
| 15:21.56 | pb_ | right, but that's nothing to do with a missing anything. |
| 15:22.16 | recalcati_oe | ./usr/lib/libwebkit-1.0.so.2.1.0 |
| 15:22.43 | pb_ | you can try turning java and javascript off in firefox (or whatever you use on your pc) and visiting google; it should render just fine without those things. |
| 15:23.20 | recalcati_oe | pb_: as soon as possible I try |
| 15:23.36 | pb_ | oh, you're using the webkit-based epiphany? |
| 15:24.16 | recalcati_oe | I thoght this, but I haven't really verified |
| 15:24.34 | pb_ | it'd be worth checking |
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| 15:24.52 | pb_ | if you are indeed using epiphany-webkit, then that would indicate fairly strongly that webkit is at fault |
| 15:24.57 | recalcati_oe | openembedded/recipes/gnome/epiphany_2.24.2.bb |
| 15:25.11 | pb_ | if you're using epiphany-gecko, then that would be more of a mystery; it would be unlikely for webkit and gecko to both be broken in the same way. |
| 15:25.12 | Crofton|work | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7648514863.html |
| 15:25.19 | recalcati_oe | yes --with-engine=webkit |
| 15:25.23 | Crofton|work | We need some "branding" guidelines |
| 15:26.18 | pb_ | recalcati_oe: try with gecko, see if that works any better |
| 15:26.40 | Crofton|work | http://www.linuxdevices.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?view=archive&id=1130200716721 |
| 15:27.14 | Crofton|work | compare 7 and 8 |
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| 15:31.53 | recalcati_oe | find openembedded | grep gecko |
| 15:31.57 | recalcati_oe | not present |
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| 15:34.16 | CIA-2 | 03Robert Schuster <thebohemian@gmx.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1965abdae3 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Added toppler 1.1.3 entries. |
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| 15:34.56 | XorA | google work on webkit epiphany here |
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| 15:35.12 | XorA | wonder if its a proxy or localised google version problem |
| 15:35.30 | recalcati_oe | oe gti hash c133a97e0c262fb707eecbc79a41cececb391e5a |
| 15:36.15 | recalcati_oe | from my pc I see correctly |
| 15:36.19 | recalcati_oe | from firefox |
| 15:37.01 | pb_ | recalcati_oe: gecko isn't a separate package. I meant to build epiphany with the gecko engine. |
| 15:37.07 | recalcati_oe | also from ubuntu 8.10 and epiphany-webkit www.google.it works |
| 15:37.21 | recalcati_oe | pb_: sorry I didn't know |
| 15:40.11 | rschuster | "OpenEmbedded Angstrom Linux" :) |
| 15:40.47 | XorA | odd, www.google.it works on epiphany webkit here, the standard Angstrom version |
| 15:40.53 | rschuster | Crofton|work: branding guidelines sounds good |
| 15:40.58 | recalcati_oe | ok, epiphany, 2.24.2, can see very simple html pages |
| 15:43.03 | recalcati_oe | instead I've opened a google document, and it appears all with textual strange messages |
| 15:44.28 | pb_ | mickeyl: good morning! |
| 15:44.44 | mwester | wonders what the weekly "break OE" commit will be for this weekend... and wonders if he should think about doing it if nobody else has. |
| 15:44.45 | mickeyl | good morning pb_ |
| 15:44.47 | mickeyl | hi folks |
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| 15:45.06 | mickeyl | mwester: go ahead, everyone is entitled to do a share ;) |
| 15:45.17 | mickeyl | cbrake: nice work w/ the news |
| 15:45.32 | mwester | But I live in fear of breaking OE! :-D |
| 15:45.33 | mickeyl | cbrake: do we have to take care that it's not getting to big or will old ones be autopurged? |
| 15:45.40 | cbrake | mickeyl: thanks |
| 15:45.57 | mickeyl | mwester: just put on your flameproof suit and do it :D |
| 15:45.59 | cbrake | mickeyl: its just a wiki page, so when we add new ones, we simply remove all ones for now |
| 15:46.04 | mickeyl | cbrake: ok |
| 15:46.07 | mickeyl | just added one |
| 15:46.09 | cbrake | mickeyl: perhaps we should have an news archive page |
| 15:46.18 | mickeyl | cbrake: yes, that sounds good |
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| 15:46.53 | kergoth | god i love git-bisect |
| 15:46.56 | kergoth | ⥠|
| 15:47.29 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 15:48.02 | mwester | I guess it's a matter of perspective -- rather like the "jaws of life", I rather dislike the use of them -- but admit that the tool is great when you might need it. |
| 15:49.26 | CIA-2 | 03Ihar Hrachyshka <ihar.hrachyshka@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r413872c423 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini recipes/libzip/libzip_0.9.bb): |
| 15:49.26 | CIA-2 | libzip: new recipe |
| 15:49.26 | CIA-2 | This is a C library for reading, creating, and modifying zip archives. |
| 15:49.26 | CIA-2 | Package is created for libzip-0.9 |
| 15:49.32 | hrw | mickeyl, cbrake: what about making 'recent news' a box like we have with users/develoeprs etc? |
| 15:49.38 | kergoth | bisect has saved me time on a number of occasions. definately special purpose, but lovely |
| 15:50.08 | hrw | mickeyl, cbrake: and maybe we can make this list point to longer versions on our site too |
| 15:52.12 | recalcati_oe | firefox, also with java and javascipt disabled, see www.google.it nicely, instead epiphany not. Also epiphany seems to have problem with css in www.mozilla.org |
| 15:52.56 | Tartarus | khem, you got anything for doing gcc 4.4 stuff w/ OE? |
| 15:53.07 | XorA | opkg list_installed | grep webkit |
| 15:53.07 | XorA | libwebkit-1.0-1 - 0.1+svnr40814-r8.1 - |
| 15:53.12 | recalcati_oe | instead epiphany on my pc see correctly www.google.it and www.mozilla.org |
| 15:53.15 | XorA | is what I have here are seems to be working fine |
| 15:53.37 | recalcati_oe | libqtwebkit4 - 4.4.3-r10.1 - libwebkit-1.0-2 - 0.1+svnr41827-r9.1 - |
| 15:54.08 | recalcati_oe | why I have libqtwebkit4 , strange |
| 15:54.54 | ant_work | mickeyl: perhaps you remember...I see in 'minimal' DEPLOY_DIR is weak-assigned. So if the user does not set this var in local.conf, the value from bitbake.conf is taken (DEPLOY_DIR ?= "${TMPDIR}/deploy") without *libc suffix. All fine with this? |
| 15:56.19 | recalcati_oe | I have addded qt4-x11-free |
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| 15:56.39 | mickeyl | ant_work: well, i'd appreciate if we could handle this better |
| 15:57.01 | mickeyl | ant_work: like, both having the default to the libc, but allowing users to override |
| 15:57.04 | recalcati_oe | XorA: thx, I go back to libwebkit-1.0-1 - 0.1+svnr40814-r8.1 - |
| 15:57.43 | mickeyl | ant_work: perhaps we need to intruduce something like USER_DEPLOY_DIR |
| 15:57.48 | mickeyl | similar to USER_DISTRO |
| 15:57.57 | ant_work | we're discussing this on ML |
| 15:58.06 | ant_work | seems sane move |
| 15:58.45 | ant_work | there is however the isssue with base.bbclass ... |
| 15:59.40 | ant_work | (was Was: package-stagefile-shell() breaks if DEPLOY_DIR is outside of TMPDIR) |
| 16:00.12 | mickeyl | yeah, i have removed this in my kernel.bb |
| 16:00.16 | ant_work | I don't know if this is a corner-case, however I stumble *every time* in it |
| 16:00.19 | mickeyl | did not have time to investigate |
| 16:01.03 | ant_work | possibly is on kergot's to-do (bottom of the list ;-) |
| 16:01.04 | mickeyl | i carry this two-line patch locally now |
| 16:01.10 | mickeyl | until someone fixes it for goodf |
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| 16:16.11 | eFfeM | mickeyl: may I refresh your memory about making a new standalone package zope-interface ? |
| 16:16.47 | mickeyl | ah, right |
| 16:16.54 | mickeyl | let me start a build and then i'll take a loko at that |
| 16:18.13 | mickeyl | s/loko/look |
| 16:18.56 | eFfeM | mickeyl: thanks alot! |
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| 16:28.16 | mibbyte | Is it possible to get an anonymous UK PAYG Internet enabled Linux phone? |
| 16:28.26 | mibbyte | I am trying to sort out a PAYG Skype mobile (UK). I notice 3 does one, but it has cobbled Skype so that you cannot Skype-call any UK mobile number (unless they are using Skype also). Which kind of defeats the purpose - all of my contacts are in my Skype address book. Does anyone know a way to get full Skype functionality? |
| 16:28.35 | mibbyte | The part I am having trouble getting my head around is: how to get the Internet i.e. hook up with the provider? would I need to get something like an O2 SIM? I notice that 3 network are packaging everything together... you MUST use their phone if you want their service. |
| 16:28.57 | hrw | mibbyte: ? |
| 16:29.27 | kergoth | mibbyte: uh, you're way off topic |
| 16:29.59 | mibbyte | Sorry, someone directed me from #handhelds |
| 16:30.07 | XorA | mibbyte: Ill answer you private |
| 16:30.21 | mibbyte | Fantastic, thanks |
| 16:30.22 | mickeyl | there are no open linux phones but the Openmoko ones |
| 16:30.44 | mickeyl | although if you're a kernel guy, you might want to help us with htclinux and openezx |
| 16:30.58 | mickeyl | only the a910 has wifi though |
| 16:31.46 | hrw | mickeyl: htcdiamond/htcraphael lack working wifi under linux? |
| 16:32.41 | XorA | hrw: I dont think any of the qualcomm series have wifi yet |
| 16:33.33 | recalcati_oe | XorA: obviously findind the recipe and the version of epiphany/midori good for libwebkit-1.0-1 - 0.1+svnr40814-r8.1 is quite difficult. |
| 16:39.22 | mickeyl | hrw: no, the a910 is the only MOTO one with wifi |
| 16:39.26 | hrw | ok |
| 16:39.29 | mickeyl | most of the qualcomm series have wifi |
| 16:39.34 | mickeyl | although it doesn't work on linux yet |
| 16:39.36 | mickeyl | :) |
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| 16:49.16 | hrw | ok, I sent summary of #oe-stable discussion to mailing list |
| 16:49.24 | hrw | please read and reply |
| 16:50.10 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 16:50.25 | mickeyl | eFfeM: should i build zope-interface out of the same sourcefile or is there a lighter one that just contains the interface? |
| 16:50.32 | hrw | 162 lines so long read ;D |
| 16:50.42 | mckoan | hrw when? which thread? I don't see it |
| 16:51.05 | hrw | mckoan: just sent, as reply to meeting mail |
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| 16:51.33 | mckoan | hrw: maybe mailserver require some time |
| 16:51.58 | mckoan | hrw: under "IRC discussion about stable branch" ? |
| 16:52.53 | hrw | yes |
| 16:53.09 | mwester | has it |
| 16:53.11 | mwester | :) |
| 16:53.31 | Tartarus | Bah, I hate packaging |
| 16:53.47 | Tartarus | I dunno why, but I've got an ubuntu chroot where debs don't work, rpm doesn't work |
| 16:53.58 | Tartarus | lets hope ipk works so I can get back to what I wanted to do here, make an mx31pdk conf file |
| 16:53.59 | mckoan | is reading an article on italian magazine talking about OE :-D page #3 http://www.ilb2b.it/eo_news/pdf_rivista/EONEWS_510.pdf |
| 16:55.03 | tharvey | can you use a shell command in a conf file (ie to obtain data for a variable assignment) and if so what is the syntax? |
| 16:56.11 | kergoth | you can use inline python, not inline shell |
| 16:56.49 | tharvey | what is the syntax for that? ${@script...}? |
| 16:57.54 | eFfeM | mickeyl there is a lighter one |
| 16:57.58 | eFfeM | was afk for dinneer |
| 16:57.59 | gchiii_ | WII |
| 16:58.32 | mickeyl | eFfeM: got it |
| 16:58.46 | tharvey | kergoth, ah... I see, same syntax as in bb files - thx |
| 16:59.00 | eFfeM | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.interface |
| 16:59.03 | kergoth | tharvey: bitbake.conf have a number of examples :P |
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| 17:01.57 | tharvey | ya, looking at those thx that opens up a whole new world :) |
| 17:02.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 17:02.08 | kergoth | np |
| 17:02.27 | recalcati_oe | mckoan: I read it, nice |
| 17:03.39 | hrw | see you guys. have a nice weekend |
| 17:04.01 | Gnutoo | rschuster1, hi I'd like to try to make the new wesnoth recipe but: 1)which boost lib I should use 2)which build system should I use?(automake or cmake or scons,gentoo uses cmake but on wesnoth they told me long time ago that they wouldn't change the build system but it was long time ago...) |
| 17:04.40 | mckoan | recalcati_oe: thanks ;-) |
| 17:06.38 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: cool |
| 17:06.52 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: you can link against latest boost |
| 17:07.03 | Gnutoo | rschuster1, wow so boost-36 thanks |
| 17:07.14 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: however you need to get boost-iostreams-bzip2 and boost-iostream-gzip working |
| 17:07.22 | Gnutoo | I know |
| 17:07.29 | rschuster1 | this is excluded in the current recipe |
| 17:07.43 | Gnutoo | yes but can I change boost-36's recipe...they work |
| 17:07.49 | rschuster1 | I got it to compile in 1.34 once upon a time |
| 17:07.53 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: excellent |
| 17:07.59 | rschuster1 | please push :) |
| 17:08.10 | Gnutoo | ok wow...with or without review? |
| 17:08.11 | rschuster1 | for wesnoth 1.6 I would say go for cmake |
| 17:08.38 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: can you pastebin the change? |
| 17:09.00 | Gnutoo | I have the boost-36 fixes in bugzilla...but as I was told that boost needed to make the 3 boost recipes installed at the same time I didn't commit |
| 17:09.06 | Gnutoo | ok |
| 17:09.15 | Gnutoo | let me find it |
| 17:09.41 | rschuster1 | yeah, it would be great to be able to install different boost versions at the same time |
| 17:10.00 | rschuster1 | but this larger work should not hinder smaller fixes |
| 17:11.05 | Gnutoo | the bug is at http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4977 I'll diff it |
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| 17:13.08 | mckoan | bye |
| 17:15.44 | CIA-2 | 03Steffen Sledz <sledz@dresearch.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbb9b5dd8f3 10openembedded.git/ (10 files in 5 dirs): hipox: new machine added (derived from oxnas) |
| 17:16.43 | Gnutoo | here are the recipes diff: http://rafb.net/p/fnrcEO96.html i'll pastebin the patches |
| 17:17.11 | Gnutoo | of course it need to be polished before commit |
| 17:17.49 | CIA-2 | 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r75b82c6cc3 10openembedded.git/recipes/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:17.49 | CIA-2 | zope-interfaces: new recipe; standalone Zope interfaces for extension products |
| 17:17.49 | CIA-2 | adjust main zope recipe accordingly |
| 17:17.50 | mickeyl | eFfeM: this should be it. |
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| 17:20.27 | Gnutoo | here are the patches: http://rafb.net/p/ONDS0S22.html |
| 17:20.57 | Gnutoo | rschuster1, ^^^ |
| 17:21.39 | rschuster1 | Gnutoo: I'll look at them later. Busy here :) |
| 17:21.44 | eFfeM | thanks alot mickey|sports |
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| 17:22.30 | Gnutoo | ok thanks a lot |
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| 18:47.32 | Gnutoo | hello is 1.6.0a.bb correct or should I use 1.6.0+1.6.0a ? |
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| 19:21.18 | Tartarus | Bah |
| 19:21.28 | Tartarus | Anyone recall what python sqlite stuff hrw added for rpm? |
| 19:21.33 | Tartarus | I thought he put in a package, but I don't see it |
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| 20:30.30 | tharvey | khem, http://www.pastebin.ca/1374287 - kernel-headers patch - this time suitable for building kernel modules against |
| 20:33.26 | tharvey | khem, I should post this to the oe list for RFC eh? |
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| 21:00.24 | khem | tharvey: yeah post it to ml you wil have more eyeballs to look at it |
| 21:01.03 | tharvey | will do |
| 21:01.15 | khem | patch looks ok |
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| 21:27.33 | kergoth | any opinion on my creating an autotools_base class, which basically just updates the config.sub,config.guess, and runs oe_runconf.. basically autotools but not regenerating w/ autoreconf. quite a few packages do that manually |
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| 21:32.01 | likewise | kergoth: updates how? |
| 21:32.52 | kergoth | right now autoreconf calls gnu-configize. it can be called manually |
| 21:33.37 | kergoth | alternatively, the gnu-configize perl script can be replaced with about 10 lines of shell. |
| 21:49.15 | khem | kergoth: sounds ok. Regenerating should only be done on need bases |
| 21:49.46 | kergoth | well, we sort of have to regenerate for most things, to get our libtool modifications, for example |
| 21:50.52 | woglinde | he khem |
| 21:51.03 | kergoth | is trying to bring our autotools bits a bit closer to upstream, less deviation would be good.. and to simplify what we're going a bit |
| 22:01.31 | khem | kergoth: yeah for libtool case I feel we need to keep regeration part handy |
| 22:01.34 | khem | woglinde: hi |
| 22:01.42 | kergoth | it would be nice if we could avoid it.. |
| 22:01.47 | kergoth | will have to think about that |
| 22:02.10 | khem | regeration ? |
| 22:02.30 | kergoth | one thing that might be beneficial, is to at least avoid doing --force on the autoreconf |
| 22:02.48 | khem | every package uses a different version of autotools libtool etc. |
| 22:02.48 | kergoth | but itd be nice to avoid regeneration completely.. can't do it if we have any changes to the .m4 files though |
| 22:03.18 | kergoth | we normally patch projects to work with 2.5x autoconf and 1.7+ automake or so |
| 22:03.33 | khem | To avoid regeneration we have to patch |
| 22:03.51 | kergoth | that's true, we could patch generated files.. but thats pretty gross :) |
| 22:03.59 | kergoth | still, if itd speed things up at all, it might be worth considering |
| 22:05.34 | kergoth | course, I'm sure its a statistically insignficant bit of processing |
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| 22:15.48 | ant__ | hey XorA |
| 22:16.13 | XorA | hey |
| 22:16.36 | ant__ | hope you were not referring to me before (fire question, disappear :) |
| 22:16.51 | ant__ | big boss was calling... |
| 22:16.57 | XorA | heh no |
| 22:17.22 | ant__ | I miss my Lafer's utilities |
| 22:17.50 | ant__ | dunno if you can remember these ... |
| 22:20.32 | XorA | name doesnt ring a bell |
| 22:20.35 | ant__ | http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Boss_20pedal -> |
| 22:20.36 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:20.47 | ant__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.47 | ant__ | Mr Burns, Oct 15 2002 |
| 22:20.47 | ant__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.53 | kergoth | haha |
| 22:20.57 | XorA | hehe |
| 22:21.06 | kergoth | i miss the old sierra adventure games :( |
| 22:21.10 | ant__ | interent is evil... |
| 22:21.17 | kergoth | Roger Wilco, space guy.. |
| 22:21.21 | ant__ | words never disappear |
| 22:21.46 | likewise | ZackMcCracken (sp) |
| 22:22.12 | ant__ | btw I had today to 'content-filter' my office...somebody is playing with Facebook to long...;-) |
| 22:22.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:22.46 | kergoth | an old compnay i was at inadvertantly blocked wikipedia for like a week... engineers were not happy.. |
| 22:23.01 | ant__ | innocent employees have no idea of firewall syslogs... |
| 22:23.52 | kergoth | http://www.allowe.com/Larry/BOB.htm .. wtf |
| 22:24.23 | ant__ | about firewalls and routers...it looks like Broadcom 63xx is almost supported by OpenWrt... |
| 22:24.46 | ant__ | any interest to speed things a bit with the help of our resident hackers? |
| 22:25.16 | ant__ | has two crappy routers sitting on a desk |
| 22:25.55 | ant__ | already bricked a first one...was just too early |
| 22:26.45 | kergoth | ugh, so many recipes duplicate stuff because they don't use .inc's well |
| 22:26.51 | kergoth | this is why i advocate proper maintainership. |
| 22:29.15 | ant__ | kergoth: would you put S = "${WORKDIR}/xy-${PV}" in the .inc as rule of thumb? |
| 22:29.31 | ant__ | I mean S= blah |
| 22:29.39 | kergoth | not necessary |
| 22:29.57 | kergoth | the default S in bitbake.conf uses ${BP}, which uses the base package name (-native/-cross removed) |
| 22:30.04 | ant__ | hm..I see some cleaning-space in our very own kexecboot recipe |
| 22:30.06 | kergoth | don't need to set it in the recipe at all unless its something unusual |
| 22:30.16 | kergoth | most recipes could use some cleanup for current best practices |
| 22:30.18 | ant__ | the_ git uses different S = |
| 22:30.29 | kergoth | but they really need indidividual attention imo, not mass changes |
| 22:30.32 | kergoth | individual, even |
| 22:30.40 | ant__ | I see |
| 22:31.20 | kergoth | it's just my opinion, but i think when people make a change across a ton of recipes, they're likely to screw something up accidentally :) |
| 22:31.29 | ant__ | kergoth: I'll try without defining S...I sense it could just work |
| 22:31.30 | Jay7 | hehe.. |
| 22:31.36 | ant__ | hello JaMa |
| 22:31.41 | ant__ | hello Jay7 |
| 22:31.45 | ant__ | both :-) |
| 22:31.56 | Jay7 | some time ago has closed russian facebook's clone for one organization :) |
| 22:32.03 | ant__ | lol |
| 22:32.16 | Jay7 | (by boss request) :) |
| 22:32.35 | Jay7 | is BOFH some time :) |
| 22:32.47 | Jay7 | hey ant__ :) |
| 22:33.05 | woglinde | hi jay7 |
| 22:33.18 | Jay7 | I'm trying to continue my work on kexecboot.. |
| 22:33.23 | Jay7 | hey woglinde :) |
| 22:34.02 | ant__ | woglinde: servus |
| 22:35.02 | ant__ | Jay7: have you found time to follow the zaurus-updater odyssey:- |
| 22:35.07 | ant__ | ) |
| 22:35.11 | ant__ | ? |
| 22:35.24 | Jay7 | ant__: no :( |
| 22:35.43 | ant__ | it make all my image-builds fail |
| 22:35.55 | ant__ | I have to bitbake it before others |
| 22:36.09 | ant__ | then, it breaks on packaged-staging |
| 22:36.17 | Jay7 | bringing kexecboot to buildable and working state is now my primary task (after commercial some) :) |
| 22:36.18 | ant__ | if yoy move deploy |
| 22:36.58 | ant__ | Jay7: here I've done like thesing suggested...zap |
| 22:37.17 | Jay7 | don't move deploy :) symlink it :) |
| 22:37.59 | ant__ | he..workdir is in ram (tmpfs...) |
| 22:38.35 | ant__ | I need on disk-deploy |
| 22:38.43 | Jay7 | create proper symlink when ajusting environment for bitbake :) |
| 22:39.07 | ant__ | could be a workaround, thx |
| 22:41.09 | ant__ | I propose to create a new image for installkits, where one can have zImages or uImages |
| 22:41.32 | ant__ | and get rid of updater.sh everywhere |
| 22:41.58 | ant__ | let see who will be the maintainer |
| 22:42.05 | Jay7 | updater.sh is needed only to install kexecboot now |
| 22:42.13 | ant__ | that is |
| 22:43.39 | Jay7 | for ordinary images would be great to have some installer image |
| 22:44.24 | Jay7 | but it is needed only when installing into NAND |
| 22:47.00 | Jay7 | well.. here is too late |
| 22:47.03 | Jay7 | -> sleep |
| 22:47.30 | woglinde | nite jay7 |
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| 22:53.16 | kergoth | ant__: made a task that checks if S can be removed from a recipe, and warns about it :P |
| 22:53.35 | ant__ | kergoth: thx. BTW how would you unify recipes when a git-tag is available? all under xy_git.bb? |
| 22:53.47 | kergoth | hmmm, not sure offhand |
| 22:53.58 | ant__ | let see kexecboot |
| 22:54.15 | ant__ | I see 0.4, 0.5, git |
| 22:54.39 | ant__ | the git recipe (done by me) has the older tags |
| 22:55.21 | ant__ | oh..in english... |
| 22:55.31 | ant__ | contains the tags of previous versions |
| 22:55.41 | ant__ | better now :-) |
| 23:00.40 | kergoth | thinks about what other best practices for recipes can be easily tested for in a task |
| 23:01.07 | ant__ | please don't disturb kergoth for a while... |
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| 23:01.12 | ant__ | :-) |
| 23:01.19 | kergoth | :) |
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| 23:02.35 | ant__ | kergoth: gentoo has lately a message like ' package has poor programming...) |
| 23:02.46 | kergoth | cool |
| 23:03.24 | ant__ | : * QA Notice: Package has poor programming practices which may ... |
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| 23:04.38 | ant__ | kergoth: *a lot* of ebuilds are emitting these QA :/ |
| 23:04.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:04.54 | ant__ | very common ones |
| 23:04.56 | kergoth | guess they have similar problems to OpenEmbedded |
| 23:06.59 | broonie | All distributions do, pretty much. |
| 23:07.16 | kergoth | nods |
| 23:07.32 | kergoth | still thinks more individual reponsibility would help matters |
| 23:11.00 | ant__ | kergoth: look at an example here: http://rafb.net/p/xNnqQ348.html |
| 23:11.08 | ant__ | they hint: report upstream |
| 23:12.43 | ant__ | not $DISTRO Bugzilla! |
| 23:14.04 | ant__ | broonie: any other distro requires you to compile it |
| 23:14.24 | ant__ | (antwell, others too...) |
| 23:14.52 | ant__ | I see the Gentoo-DNA in OE... |
| 23:15.33 | ant__ | then evolution did the rest :p |
| 23:37.09 | broonie | ant__: In a lot of cases distros prefer to have reports go via the distro in case it's a local issue (eg, borked dependencies, a distro local patch). |
| 23:37.43 | broonie | Though obviously that case is fairly clear about what to do :) |
| 23:38.53 | ant__ | right |
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| 23:41.54 | ant__ | kergoth: what I find worth to copy is the idea of saving the screen logs (QA in a separate dir if you want) |
| 23:43.44 | ant__ | ok,very late here...good night |
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