IRC log for #oe on 20090219

00:01.54kergothwonders if there's any variables in a .conf that reference variables defined in the recipe/classes, or only the other way around
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00:23.47CIA-203Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re4eb9aab1d 10openembedded.git/packages/popt/ (popt-1.7/mkinstalldirs.patch popt_1.7.bb): popt-1.7: Fix build with new libtool
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01:01.18CIA-203Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0aa925443d 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/ (7 files in 2 dirs): htc*.conf: factor out common include file for the msm7xxxx devices
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01:31.45Soopamanis there a upnp aware media player client for OE?
01:44.49khemSoopaman: http://djmount.sourceforge.net/
01:45.02khemhttp://www.geexbox.org/
01:47.37Soopamanthis dj mount is certainly interesting
01:47.38khemSoopaman: I dont think there is something there already in OE you might have to add recipe
01:48.06Soopamanare there any online tutorials for putting together a recipe?
01:48.27khemI would advise to look at wiki
01:49.26Soopamancool
01:49.51Soopamanso i figured out why i kept hitting my file limit the first times compiling OE
01:50.23Soopamanubuntu 8.10's implementation of the pulse audio module
01:56.06khemwhat was it
01:56.13khempulse audio module ?
01:56.25khemhmmm how could it be related
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02:08.41TartarusHmm, who knows the deb classes well?  I'm trying to figure out if we (and I think this is the case) build apt / dpkg to default to checking for conf files within ${STAGING_DIR} or use -c ${STAGING_DIR}/... to make sure our staging config file is read
02:08.42CIA-203Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4c69f9c145 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx_git.bb: linux-msm7xxxx: bump kernel for raphael and diamond
02:09.08TartarusI'm pretty tempted right now to assume-provided apt/dpkg and make sure we enforce passing an arg to use the right conf file
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03:09.23CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6f8fa10e4d 10openembedded.git/packages/inetutils/inetutils_1.5.bb: inetutils: Added tftp, telnet, logger to the update-alternatives list
03:09.25CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * re84d5d1645 10openembedded.git/packages/coreutils/coreutils_5.3.0.bb:
03:09.25CIA-2coreutils: install df and nice into correct directories, fixes update-alternatives
03:09.25CIA-2df and nice are in /bin, not in /usr/bin. This is important because busybox
03:09.27CIA-2puts these into the correct locations, and the different directories breaks
03:09.29CIA-2update-alternatives.
03:09.31CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r11adcc5b7d 10openembedded.git/packages/busybox/busybox-1.13.2/slugos/defconfig: SlugOS: busybox defconfig - drop printenv command
03:09.34CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r07ff9b4089 10openembedded.git/packages/bridge-utils/bridge-utils_1.2.bb: bridge-utils: add brctl to the update-alternatives list
03:09.39CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf4d7e6abe3 10openembedded.git/packages/procps/procps_3.2.7.bb: procps: add pkill to the update-alternatives list
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03:29.21CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1e4cccf651 10openembedded.git/packages/bridge-utils/bridge-utils_1.2.bb: bridge-utils: fix typo in do_install
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03:36.16CIA-203Mike Westerhof <mwester@dls.net> 07org.openembedded.dev * r801e77d332 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc: SlugOS: slugos.inc - SlugOS 5.3-alpha enters the world.
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04:29.25Soopamanis there a clean(er) way to use a custom kernel config without creating a new recipie?
04:30.18Soopamanrecipe*
04:47.01Soopamanwith sooo many options its hard to figure out where to start
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05:57.37hrw|goneSoopaman: use linux recipe as kernel and put yourmachine defconfig in packages/linux/linux/yourmachine/defconfig so you can use any of existing linux_ recipes
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06:32.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 5030 has been created by jozo-oe-mlist(AT)megacrew.org
06:32.07cdbot2* * klibc-1.5 build failed
06:32.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5030
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08:15.43eFfeManyone any idea on the status of the php package? it does not build; i've peeked into it but it does not look as something i can fix
08:29.40CIA-203Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4cad9b1e62 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/ (dmai_1.20.bb ti-paths.inc): dmai: update paths to codecs
08:29.50CIA-203Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5c5488a59f 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/omap3530-dvsdk-combos_3.16.bb: omap3530-dvsdk-combos: add recipe to (re)build the codecs from the DVSDK
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09:56.44hrwmorning
09:56.53gremlin[it]morning hrw!
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09:57.08hrw~curse vortex86sx
09:57.08ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, vortex86sx !
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09:57.23gremlin[it]ahhahahah .... what's happen hrw ?
10:01.18mckoanmorning hrw, gremlin[it]
10:01.18hrwit see CF card but not partitions on it
10:01.34hrw[    5.312262] ata1.00: ATA-4: ELITE PRO CF CARD 4GB, 20071207, max UDMA/66                                                      
10:01.39mckoanhrw: may I help you?
10:01.42hrw[    5.496202] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      ELITE PRO CF CAR 2007 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
10:02.10hrwmckoan: I will manage it - playing with kernel configuration to make use of all features
10:02.37gremlin[it]mhhhh i hear something about issues with UDMA and CF card ... can be related to your trouble ?
10:02.48mckoanyou should already have a KaeilOS/OE version on the CF I gave you
10:03.27hrwmckoan: I have and it works
10:03.54hrwmckoan: but I want to use framebuffer (sisfb) and libata instead of old ide driver
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11:33.03CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r2e9a98c59e 10openembedded.git/packages/e17/elementary-sms_svn.bb: elementary-sms: add package for illume image
11:33.34booxterhasanyone tried to build qt-embedded? I get Dependency loop...
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11:42.47CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rfde0a3a96f 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-native-sdk.bb: task-native-sdk: install task-proper-tools and all perl-modules
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12:48.53CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0474384256 10openembedded.git/packages/gob2/gob2-native_2.0.14.bb: gob2: add -native version
12:48.59CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5c014be88f 10openembedded.git/ (8 files in 2 dirs): mpd: massive update
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12:51.17booxterhow to fix it: http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4430
12:51.39booxterit seems that do_configure depends on do_populate_staging which is weird
12:52.01booxterthis problem also occures for recent 4.4.3 qt-embedded package
12:52.41CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r05e6b64bf3 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: add gmpc
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13:10.33booxterwhat does it mean: DEPENDS_prepend = "${@["qtopia-core ", ""][(bb.data.getVar('PN', d, 1) == 'qtopia-core')]}"
13:10.41booxtermy Python is bad..
13:12.02hrwits 'add qtopia-core to DEPENDS if recipe is not qtopia-core'
13:16.22booxterI removed the line from classes/qtopia4core.class and then the Dependency loop gone away. What's the problem with it?
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13:33.12CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r481dea66dd 10openembedded.git/packages/powervr-drivers/libgles-omap3.inc:
13:33.12CIA-2libgles-omap3: add comments on how to get the gles binary files to help
13:33.12CIA-2people get started faster
13:33.12CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
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13:55.28CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r58903a1ee1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc:
13:55.28CIA-2efl: latest rev. makes illume kbd fast again, but utf8 bug back. fix ilist
13:55.28CIA-2usage minimally so its usable again until real fix happens.
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13:56.05CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ree0c34d901 10openembedded.git/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
13:56.05CIA-2libgles-omap3: add comments on how to get the gles binary files to help
13:56.05CIA-2people get started faster
13:56.05CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
13:56.07CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra0699a732b 10openembedded.git/:
13:56.10CIA-2efl: update efl and fix ecore package to not have dfb patch anymore - obsolete.
13:56.12CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
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14:03.41CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r481dea66dd 10openembedded.git/packages/powervr-drivers/libgles-omap3.inc:
14:03.41CIA-2libgles-omap3: add comments on how to get the gles binary files to help
14:03.41CIA-2people get started faster
14:03.41CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
14:03.55CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07raster * r5c014be88f 10openembedded.git/ (8 files in 2 dirs): mpd: massive update
14:03.58CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07raster * r05e6b64bf3 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom feed builder: add gmpc
14:04.03CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07raster * r0474384256 10openembedded.git/packages/gob2/gob2-native_2.0.14.bb: gob2: add -native version
14:04.04CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * rf98ec543de 10openembedded.git/packages/palmt650/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
14:04.04CIA-2palmt650.conf: add palmt650-keyboard-modmap package to make keyboard work in x
14:04.04CIA-2the x keymap for the palmt650 is mostly wrong missing almost all the useful
14:04.06CIA-2keys. this provides a package that sets a modifier map when starting x to
14:04.08CIA-2set all the keys up properly for the palmt650.
14:04.10CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * ra0699a732b 10openembedded.git/:
14:04.12CIA-2efl: update efl and fix ecore package to not have dfb patch anymore - obsolete.
14:04.14CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
14:04.16CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07raster * rfde0a3a96f 10openembedded.git/packages/tasks/task-native-sdk.bb: task-native-sdk: install task-proper-tools and all perl-modules
14:04.19CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * rd8b7544361 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/palmt650.conf:
14:04.22CIA-2palmt650.conf: use palmt650-keyboard-modmap in palmt650 machine conf
14:04.30CIA-2use the new palmt650-keyboard-modmap package in the palmt650 config so the
14:04.32CIA-2keymap is right for the treo 650.
14:04.34CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * rdae9945bf0 10openembedded.git/packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.1.bb:
14:04.37CIA-2glibc: disable patch that moves ld.so.cache to /var/run to not run ldconfig
14:04.39CIA-2ldconfig is run at boot as a work around for ld.so.cache being in volatile
14:04.41CIA-2ramdisk. this means it is not persistent and its caching won't help on boot.
14:04.43CIA-2disable this.
14:04.45CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r5edba38e8b 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6_git.bb:
14:04.48CIA-2Linux (Palm): Fix Linux kernel build so it actually works for palmt650
14:04.50CIA-2Linux hackndev changed their git so the OE packages for palm ceased to work.
14:04.52CIA-2This updates so it actually builds a kernel corectly.
14:05.04CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster) <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * ree0c34d901 10openembedded.git/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
14:05.07CIA-2libgles-omap3: add comments on how to get the gles binary files to help
14:05.09CIA-2people get started faster
14:05.11CIA-2Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org>
14:05.13CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r74dffaf3b9 10openembedded.git/packages/palmt650/palmt650-keyboard-modmap.bb:
14:05.16CIA-2palmt650-keyboard-modmap: fix package to include the right files
14:05.18CIA-2wrong files included but somehow still worked! fixed.
14:05.20CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * re4da1a4db5 10openembedded.git/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-nodm-init/xserver-nodm:
14:05.23CIA-2xserver-kdrive-common: fix xserver-nodm to set HOME env var right
14:05.27CIA-2for a long time xserver-nodm has not set HOME correctly so all apps think HOME
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14:05.35CIA-203Carsten Haitzler (Raster <raster@rasterman.com> 07raster * r679e2ad9ca 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: efl: update srcrev
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14:22.11gremlin[it]mckoan, adesso dovresti pagare da bere !
14:22.30gremlin[it]mckoan, now you should pay drink for all of us ;)
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14:57.42udovdhhello
14:57.55udovdhabout the building navit for n810 (chinook-compat etc) issue
14:58.06udovdhI just updated the dev tree
14:58.16udovdhand bitbake appears to do more now
14:58.34udovdhonly 1200+ tasks to go
14:58.40udovdhso plenty of room for issues :-)
14:59.49kergoths/bitbake/openembedded/
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15:00.38kergothmorning
15:04.10hrwhi kergoth chouimat
15:04.31kergothhey hrw
15:04.34chouimat|workhi hrw
15:06.16hrw~curse vortex86sx again
15:06.17ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, vortex86sx again !
15:06.46hrwgeneric pata driver does not work, it821x pata driver finds disk but not partitions on it...
15:08.42hrwand I prefer to not use old IDE layer
15:09.18mckoanpoor vortex86sx :-(
15:09.19eFfeMhrw: did you have a solution for php ?
15:09.58hrweFfeM: moment, I will compare buglinux version with OE
15:10.32eFfeMhrw, np, i have time, but didn't want it to be forgotten
15:11.50mckoanhrw: have you patched it821x.c ?
15:12.15hrw-                --with-zlib --with-zlib-dir=${STAGING_LIBDIR_NATIVE} \
15:12.15hrw+                --with-zlib --with-zlib-dir=${STAGING_LIBDIR_NATIVE}/.. \
15:12.24hrweFfeM: apply that to php-native?
15:12.45hrwmckoan: pata_it821x.c supports RDC1010 controller in 2.6.28
15:13.04hrweFfeM: thats the only difference
15:13.13mckoanhrw: ok, I did'n recall correctly
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15:14.38hrwnetconsole is great thing to use for playing with serialless devices (and two input monitors)
15:14.41hrwhi CosmicPenguin
15:17.37hrwthat vortex cpu is really total disaster
15:18.03hrw300MHz 486sx but feels like much less
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15:22.23eFfeMhrw, will give it a try
15:22.40eFfeMneed to await completion of another build
15:22.52cremorisdoes bluez fail to compile for anyone?
15:30.41hrwbbl
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15:36.26jeremy_laineanybody here using Qt 4 in OE ?
15:37.29mickeylnot since long
15:37.36mickeyli think the qmake paths have been broken since a while
15:37.44mickeyldidn't find time to fix it
15:37.47jeremy_lainemickeyl: basically I'm wondering why phonon is disabled
15:38.01jeremy_lainemickeyl: what is your problem concerning qmake?
15:38.23mickeylqmake2 looks for its spec files in the wrong directory
15:38.25jeremy_lainemickeyl: I am using qt-embedded on powerpc, works like a charm
15:39.25jeremy_lainemickeyl: do you have an example I can use to reproduce / fix your problem?
15:41.22mickeylyes, try to bitbake any software that uses qt4
15:41.25mickeyllike
15:41.30mickeylpyqt4
15:43.42jeremy_laineok will do
15:44.46mickeylthanks
15:45.40zeckejeremy_laine: no idea why it is disabled
15:45.42kergothwonders if any functionality would be lost if we changed the semantics of our file format to be a bit less imperative
15:45.51jeremy_lainezecke: I'm starting to look into it
15:46.23jeremy_lainezecke: first step is to add gstreamer to qt_depends.inc, then some PKG_CONFIG magic as the tests fail for now
15:50.46CIA-203Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8c1c046f7e 10openembedded.git/packages/php/ (php-native.inc php-native_5.2.6.bb): php: fixed build
15:51.26eFfeMhrw, php builds fine now, do you also have such a suggestion for modphp ? (there adding /.. did not work :-( )
15:58.27CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r31f5fe8e7f 10openembedded.git/packages/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Revert the portions of "libgles-omap3: add comments on how to get the gles binary files to help" that snuck in
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16:08.39hrw|afkeFfeM: sorry, but no
16:09.39eFfeMhrw|afk: thanks
16:10.52CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbf8f4198ab 10openembedded.git/packages/musicpd/mpd_0.14.2.bb: mpd: add fix from mpd-alsa
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16:39.35khem`kergoth: what are you thinking about changing
16:39.37kergothcbrake: hmm, what was the startup time you saw using the clr on embedded devices, again? my memory fails again
16:40.44kergothkhem`: just playing around with different ideas.  like how things would work if += and =+ were lazy rather than immediate, or if include/require/inherit weren't right where they are, but instead sat between the cfg data and the recipe, or..
16:42.41jeremy_lainemickeyl: ok, finally got round to your build error
16:43.23jeremy_lainemickeyl: I see what you mean about the spec files, am wondering if the problem only occurs for -native packages?
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16:45.21mickeylyeah
16:45.31mickeylthere's a mismatch w/ STAGING_DATADIR or something
16:46.02jeremy_lainemickeyl: I'm not too sure I understand why qmake2-native is a "cross" package
16:46.04khem`kergoth: I like the idea of lazy eval
16:46.33kergothit can be confusing right now, because when things happen isn't very consistent
16:46.49mickeyljeremy_laine: me neither
16:46.55khem`yeah debugging will be bit hard
16:49.14hrwmickeyl, jeremy_laine: you are talking about commit 1798b989c8881f6a35d8d8e2e2a90fd3d485218f?
16:49.25hrw<PROTECTED>
16:49.49mickeyllooks wrong
16:49.53mickeyllets try without again
16:50.54hrwmickeyl: change came from Poky so check Richard's mails about problem
16:51.06hrw<PROTECTED>
16:51.12hrwPoky rev 3333
16:51.53hrwso as it touch target staging is has to be cross to get built for each arch
16:52.57jeremy_lainehrw: what happens for native packages that depend on a cross package?
16:53.30jeremy_lainehrw: the problem we are seeing is that sip-native (which depends on qmake2-native) cannot be built
16:53.31hrwgood question but I do not have anwser now
16:53.50hrwjeremy_laine: so we maybe need qmake2-native and qmake2-cross
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16:56.02mrdatahi all
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17:05.48CIA-203Jan Lübbe <jluebbe@debian.org> 07fso/milestone5 * r08f35e307f 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/bluez/bluez4_4.27.bb): bluez4: update to 4.29
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17:23.47hrw-> off
17:26.54CIA-203Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0d01d62a8a 10openembedded.git/packages/qt4/ (4 files): qt4: enable phonon support for qt4-x11-free and qt-embedded
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17:27.48cbrakekergoth: around 6-8 seconds for 200-500MHz arms -- I imagine on OMAP, it would be considerably faster
17:29.52kergothhmm.  wonder what could be done to improve that.  have you tried AOT yet?
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17:50.46CosmicPenguinchecksums.ini makes reference to tinylogin.tinylogin.net
17:50.54eFfeManyone an idea who owns/creates cross/armv7a/build/config_vars.mk ? I get a configure who says it is missing
17:50.56CosmicPenguinwhich according to my DNS, doesn't exist
17:53.51dromedeyes, i had the same problem with tinylogin
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17:57.48CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r03dc2310f0 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: set CODEC_INSTALL_DIR, fix packaging
17:57.51eFfeMj #mpd
17:58.34kergothHas anyone looked at generic mechanisms of handling user changes to things like busybox config and kernel configs, via the usual tools for such things?
17:58.42kergothwithin the context of an OpenEmbedded build, that is
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18:01.20kergothwas thinking of something like manipulating FILESPATH/FILESDIR so that ${TOPDIR}/files/${PN}-${PV}-${PR}-${DISTRO_PR}/ is used before the ones in the metadata repo, then providing some sort of markup of what files can be configured, and via what mechanisms, or something..
18:07.15CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * re31a29ffbe 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: add dmai to RDEPENDS
18:08.59kergothhttp://damieng.com/blog/2009/02/18/the-secret-driven-developmentdesign-acronyms
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18:11.47udovdhany idea where I cna find cups 1.2.10 that is acceptable for bitbake?
18:11.52udovdhthe normal download fails
18:19.01CIA-203Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r78d33a3c1a 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/ (4 files): dsplink, codec-engine: restructuring and packaging improvements
18:19.01CIA-203Roger Monk <r-monk@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r614fd4e35e 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/ (4 files): dmai: Repackaging for codec-combos and dmai, remove dsplink recipe that isn't needed anymore
18:19.02CIA-203Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2d3d68184c 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: set FC_INSTALL_DIR as well
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18:28.23cpo__i added a new package to oe. how is the best way to build a patch that can be easily applied to the OE repo?
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18:33.41CIA-203Jan Lübbe <jluebbe@debian.org> 07fso/milestone5 * r9f90c36743 10openembedded.git/packages/bluez/ (bluez4/set-scorouting-to-pcm.patch bluez4_4.30.bb): bluez4: set SCORouting to PCM for om-gta02
18:43.01udovdhI get this error: http://pastebin.com/d3b35aae5
18:43.10udovdhwhen trying to build navit for n810
18:43.19udovdhI vaguely remember this issue
18:43.23udovdhsome header file?
18:43.48kergothanyone looked at Nix and NixOS?
18:44.25CIA-203Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcb2e1c8af3 10openembedded.git/packages/musicpd/ (mpd-alsa_0.14.2.bb mpd/mpd.conf mpd_0.14.2.bb): mpd: added sample /etc/mtd.conf file
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18:46.40udovdhhttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.xen.devel/51901 ?
18:46.42udovdhfor my issue
18:46.48udovdhwhy isn't that patched yet?
18:46.56udovdhNix?
18:47.05kergothhttp://nixos.org/index.html
18:47.17kergothits a package manager that tries to be functional, as in the programming methodology... it seems interesting
18:47.44kergothcan do some build stuff too, so i'm curious about how it is, and how capable the build aspects are, and how their DSL compares to our file format
18:47.53kergothtries installing nixos in a vmware image
18:48.03denixhey kergoth!
18:48.10udovdhinteresting..
18:48.16denixhow's it going?
18:48.18udovdhneed more time to look into stuff like this
18:48.35udovdhbtw: why need to build a full kernel
18:48.40kergothudovdh: quite. t heres' research papers there you can read about it, it was a research project
18:48.41udovdhwhen I justw ant to build navit?
18:48.45udovdhwhich is an app?
18:48.59kergothdenix: quite good, busy busy.  you?
18:49.00udovdhwill have a look into the papers
18:49.11denixkergoth: same here
18:49.24denixkergoth: have you looked into BBMASK issue?
18:49.31kergothat mvista, but now i'm in engineering, working on the new products instead of fixing bugs for customers.. huzzah
18:49.37denixkergoth: nobody seems to care on the ml... :(
18:49.38kergothhaven't had a chance, i'll look at it today for sure
18:50.59denixkergoth: thanks
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18:52.26denixkergoth: congrats on your new assignment, btw :)
18:52.35kergoththanks :)
18:52.45kergothmaybe i wont be so bored.  i was going nuts for a while there
18:52.56kergothmost of my job was .. "here's a patch, backport it please.." .. 20 minutes later, okay, now what?
18:54.53kergothwho's the main angstrom maintainer again?
18:55.08denixkoen?
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18:55.16pmeerw__hello
18:55.26pmeerw__I've an build issue with  bluez4_4.30.bb
18:56.04kergothokay, i was thinking it might be him
18:56.09kergothbah, he's not here
18:56.22denixkergoth: check #beagle
18:56.39pmeerw__hid2hci_usb_init.patch introduces libusb-1.0 API, however, bluez is linked against libusb-0.1
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19:32.06CIA-203Frans Meulenbroeks <fransmeulenbroeks@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7eb0e939b5 10openembedded.git/packages/musicpd/ (mpd-alsa_0.14.2.bb mpd_0.14.2.bb): mpd: fix mode of mpd.conf
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20:30.11hfmansonhello, I have a problem building linux-openmoko-2.6.28-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r4
20:31.43hfmansonMKDIR   /home/manson/openmoko/oe/build-om-gta02/tmp/work/om-gta02-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-openmoko-2.6.28-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r4/image/lib/firmware/kaweth
20:31.59hfmansonINSTALL /home/manson/openmoko/oe/build-om-gta02/tmp/work/om-gta02-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-openmoko-2.6.28-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r4/image/lib/firmware/kaweth/new_code.bin
20:32.35hfmansonappears in log.do_install.3046
20:33.30hfmansonthe INSTALL statements seems wrong because newcode.bin isn't there
20:33.57hfmansonI'm using Debian Lenny to build OE OpenMoko
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20:55.01timtimredhallo.
20:55.21timtimredreinstalles his home build box....
20:55.32timtimredon an SSD :)
20:57.41CIA-203Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2858a64f4e 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-omap-2.6.27/omap5912osk/defconfig: linux-omap-2.6.27 : Add USB to defconfig. Build more modules.
20:59.09eFfeMtimtimred, have you managed to build modphp ?
20:59.37eFfeMi could not and your name was coined as maybe having done that
21:00.18timtimredi will be back in 15 mins after i eat with that fix
21:00.28timtimredit was just php (im running fcgi)
21:00.39timtimredsomething like --disable-pdo-sqlite
21:00.51timtimredi need to eat oven beepbeepbeep bbl :)
21:01.03eFfeMenjoy your meail
21:06.44timtimrederm. i might not have that fix following disks swapping about
21:06.46eFfeMtimtimred for when you are back: I tried with --without-pdo-sqlite, but that does not make a difference. The problem I have is that if I bake modphp configure fails with the error cannot open /home/frans/oe/tmp_angstrom/cross/armv7a/build/config_vars.mk: No such file or directory at /home/frans/oe/tmp_angstrom/staging/i686-linux/usr/bin/apxs line 218.
21:07.03timtimredoh right, i was building php for cgi usage
21:07.07timtimrednot modphp :)
21:07.18eFfeMphp works, I've build that
21:07.32timtimredi guess, its looking in the wrong path for apxs or, the right path and apache hasnt put it there? :)
21:07.57timtimredright, munch munch.
21:08.44eFfeMit runs axps
21:09.50eFfeMapxs gives the error msg
21:12.50timtimredoh yeah, i didnt read it properly.
21:12.59timtimredsorry i was excited about SSD and steaks
21:13.02timtimred:)
21:13.12eFfeMnp
21:13.16timtimredno idea sorry :/
21:13.19eFfeMhave a beer with it
21:13.22timtimrednot tried modphp yet
21:13.41timtimredlol. im having a 'pink lemonade cooler'
21:14.08eFfeMalso nice
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21:16.38timtimredi guess ubuntu takes just under 20 secs to boot a fresh install (8.10) on the SSD
21:17.08timtimredusing my crappy guess-time
21:17.10timtimred:)
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21:25.46eFfeMthat will hopefully help at least a bit
21:25.57kergothhaha
21:26.45eFfeMcouldn't find some of the stuff it should produce in staging, to my surprise found the native package in the arm7a dir
21:28.10kergoththats one silly bug
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21:30.07eFfeMyup, let's see if it helps me iwth modphp
21:30.59CosmicPenguincups 1.2.10 is no longer on the easysw.com ftp site
21:31.02CosmicPenguinfor what its worth
21:39.13eFfeMis there no STAGING_INCDIR_NATIVE ?
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21:56.53CIA-203Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcdd01bc673 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
21:56.53CIA-2linux_2.6.28.bb : add tosa support to this recipe
21:56.53CIA-23 patches added from 2.6.29-rcX to make the tmiofb work.
21:56.53CIA-2Work still required to get backlight to turn on, I can see gfx, but no
21:56.53CIA-2backlight at the moment
22:08.33kergothhuh, thats really odd
22:08.40kergothhmm
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22:14.37khem`eFfeM: yes there is STAGING_INCDIR_NATIVE defined
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22:24.07eFfeMkhem didn't find it
22:24.30eFfeMbettime here, will dig into this tomorrow, but maybe everything is already ok
22:24.48kergothcackles and abuses list comprehensions a bit
22:26.03Crofton|workkhem`, ping
22:26.12khem`hi
22:27.13Crofton|workcan you log in to pathcwork and see if you have picks to change a pacthes state
22:30.58khem`Crofton|work: yes I have, thx for providing it
22:31.04Crofton|workheh
22:31.04khem`now I can update the queue here
22:31.23Crofton|workthis is remarkably non-intuitive
22:31.47Crofton|workstill, now we know
22:35.21khem`yeah
22:35.28khem`I have updated it
22:36.55CroftonOK, I sent an email to the list. I think all commiters shoudl be maintainers
22:37.16CroftonI am curious if you submit a patch, can you edit its state without being a maintianer ....
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22:46.29CIA-203Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r177d530755 10openembedded.git/packages/vala/ (7 files in 2 dirs): vala: add another patch against glib-2.0.vapi
22:49.28khem`Crofton: so far no I think
22:51.16Crofton|workI would like it if there was an easy way for people to change state on their submissions
22:52.08CIA-203Graeme Gregory <dp@xora.org.uk> 07org.openembedded.dev * r99af337e90 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux_2.6.28.bb:
22:52.08CIA-2linux_2.6.28.bb : increase preference for tosa and bump PR forgotten in last
22:52.08CIA-2commit
22:52.08Crofton|workon the other hand, people that submit are maintainers
22:52.10Crofton|work:)
22:56.29khem`Crofton|work: allow that to whoever registers to patchwork
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22:58.17Crofton|workyeah
22:58.27Crofton|workcan you reply to my email on the list?
22:58.59khem`or atleast give them a chance to modify the patches they submit. I reckon it might not be that easy
22:59.05ant__Crofton|work: hey there, do you have Write access to OE wiki?
22:59.16Crofton|workant__, I'd have to check
22:59.22Crofton|workI think anyone can?
22:59.28ant__it seems Gentoo instructions are outdated
22:59.38ant__I'm noting all the step right now
22:59.40khem`ant__: update them
22:59.51Crofton|workant__, I think you register and can edit
22:59.52ant__Laibsch, blocked the page...
22:59.58Crofton|workif you can't, this is a problem
22:59.59khem`hmm
23:00.17kergothwhat's the definitive method for having someone look at a commit before you push it, if you want eyes on it? email, or just push to a private branch? the latter seems overkill if its just one commit
23:00.21Crofton|workcan you ask him why?
23:00.21ant__wait, LAibsch is here
23:00.37Crofton|workkergoth, jsut email
23:00.46ant__kergoth,: there was talking about openembedded-bots ML
23:00.54Crofton|workpatchwork.openembedded.org is tracking them
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23:01.06khem`kergoth: mailing list is becoming popular for patches
23:01.14ant__:/
23:01.16XorA|gone~curse whatever is stopping tosa backlight working
23:01.17ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, whatever is stopping tosa backlight working !
23:01.26kergothseems a bit overkill to use a tracking system to monitor patches from people that already have commit access, and just want a confirmation of sanity
23:01.42Crofton|workkergoth, but it is easy :)
23:02.07khem`kergoth: There are patches from many non committers too. I looked at the bugs and there are so many patches
23:02.12khem`from non committers
23:02.28kergothi know, i'm saying its primary use is for non-committers
23:02.37Crofton|workyeah
23:02.45Crofton|workand stuff that needs more eyes
23:02.51kergothwhat's the best way to get a git commit into a mail for people using gmail? :\
23:02.52khem`oh well sort of but even seasoned guys can use the mailing lists
23:02.57kergothdoes gmail still fuck with whitespace?
23:03.12Laibschant__: There are only very few pages blocked.  Although I am not sure which page you are talking about, I don't think you are referring to is one of them.
23:03.13Crofton|workman git-format-patch I think
23:03.20kergothi know how to use format-patch.
23:03.22ant__Laibsch: hey
23:03.30Laibschgood morning!
23:03.33Crofton|workI am not real good with git
23:03.36ant__is about OE & your distro
23:03.44LaibschURL?
23:03.51Crofton|workalthough I did squash two commits into one yesterday :)
23:03.56ant__http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro
23:04.01khem`kergoth: I use gmail with mutt client works ok I guess
23:04.12kergothjust use the gmail smtp server?
23:04.17khem`yes
23:04.26khem`you can do that with git-email too
23:04.36ant__well, this msg is not so clear...
23:04.42ant__ERROR: Importing sqlite3 and pysqlite2 failed, please install one of them. Python 2.5 or a 'python-pysqlite2' like package is likely to be what you need.
23:04.49khem`or use msmtp to talk to gmail server
23:05.09Laibschant__: yes, that one is blocked, use the discussion page, please
23:05.33ant__I'll provide a new list of needed packages for Gentoo
23:05.46Laibschgood
23:06.03ant__btw do we agree bitbake should not be installed?
23:06.14ant__but just fetched
23:07.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 5020 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com
23:07.07cdbot2* * bluez (bluez4-4.29-r2) fails to build
23:07.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5020
23:07.13LaibschHm, I use the installed version
23:07.26Laibschant__: BTW, the block applies only to unregistered users
23:07.34LaibschYou can edit the page if you register
23:07.44ant__ok, fine, thx
23:07.45LaibschI think that makes sense for such an important page
23:08.07ant__agreed, there was some major bull$*t
23:08.56kergothCrofton|work: what mailing list should patches be sent to, again?
23:09.19kergothjust devel?
23:09.27kergoth's clearly out of the loop
23:09.50ant__kergoth: you just missed one thread :-)
23:09.54kergothah :)
23:10.06ant__anyway nothing has changed...
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23:11.25ant__kergoth: found it...http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded/20730/focus=21085
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23:12.51ant__kergoth: my 2cents are for the solution proposed by koen on Feb 11 (only 2 OE lists)
23:13.17kergoththanks
23:13.39ant__it seems the bugtracker is too complicated for engineers cross-compiling for prototypal machines:-)
23:14.00ant__lack of knowledge?
23:14.05ant__of will?
23:14.31kergothi'm not a big fan of bugzilla, but its not like its that hard to work with
23:14.43kergothi'd sort of like to see a reviewboard server, at least if reviewboard's git support got a bit better
23:14.44kergothheh
23:15.04ant__doing a query against bugzilla is possible, how would you grep the whole ML archives?
23:15.15timtimredi dont mind a bugtracker. its more easily searchable than your average ml. but people have to check it (like a ml)
23:15.18ant__gmane search suc*z
23:15.30kergothugh yeah it does, gmane's search is terrible
23:15.47Crofton|workkergoth, just devel
23:15.57CosmicPenguinI was never a huge fan of reviewboard - too much bureaucracy for me
23:16.18kergothone advantage to the one the android folks are using is its well integrated with repo
23:16.21kergothgerritt, thats the one
23:16.29kergothso it fits well into their existing workflow
23:16.37timtimredin fact, tracking defects etc is probably better in something thats built for it?
23:16.56kergothhmm, the devel list will bounce mails from unregistered addresses, right?
23:17.54timtimredmailing lists work too. im more on the bug tracker side but dont mind either way.
23:21.54kergoththinks the packages dir should really have been named 'recipes' to avoid confusion due to the overloaded packages term
23:26.50khem`nods
23:28.37CosmicPenguinof course, i can't spell recipes twice the same way
23:34.31CIA-203Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <mickey@vanille-media.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7231b14e04 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx_git.bb: linux-msm7xxxx: use kernel 2.6.27 with upstream defconfig for htcraphael and htcdiamond
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23:36.16kergothCosmicPenguin: pfft, thats what tab completion is for

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