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00:17.00CIA-503Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r413911eb42 10openembedded.git/packages/vte/vte.inc:
00:17.00CIA-5vte: include gnome-pty-helper on libvte package
00:17.00CIA-5The gnome-pty-helper is required to xfce-terminal and others to be
00:17.00CIA-5able to properly initialize the pty for use. This is now included on
00:17.00CIA-5libvte package as done on Debian.
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00:28.15mickeylotavio: "properly" initialize ?
00:28.23mickeyli had no problems without that strange userland helper
00:30.59otaviomickeyl: are you using xfce-terminal?
00:31.17otaviomickeyl: if you prefer, I can move it to a separated package; no problem to me.
00:31.23mickeylno, just curious
00:31.30mickeylmatchbox-terminal works fine
00:31.34mickeylvala-terminal works fine
00:31.37mickeylvte itself works fine
00:31.48mickeylwhy is xfce so special that it needs the userland helper?
00:31.54mickeylwhat is the userland helper doing anyways?
00:32.22otaviomickeyl: xfce-terminal looks for the binary and outputs an error message about it. I can move it to a specific package then and we don't blow away other packages.
00:32.45otaviomickeyl: i'll do it in a minute and push the new revision .. hold on.
00:33.01otaviomickeyl: matchbox-terminal has full screen capability?
00:33.13otaviomickeyl: I'm looking for a terminal that has it
00:34.26mickeylno need to change the packaging
00:34.27mickeylreally
00:34.29mickeyli was just curious
00:34.50mickeyli can add a fullscreen mode to vala-terminal
00:34.55mickeylit already has multiple taps
00:34.59mickeyllandscape/portrait
00:35.03mickeyland is light on the screen
00:35.24otavioWhat I need is fullscreen and a into feature. So it can be embedded into another application
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00:37.38otaviomickeyl: I've already refactored the packaging. I've made it to generate a gnome-pty-helper binary package. I've also changed xfce-terminal to rdepends on it. I'm building the packages for testing and then I'll push those changes.
00:37.59mickeylcool
00:38.31otaviomickeyl: thanks by notice that others works fine without it. It is great to keep the packages as modualr as possible
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00:38.50mickey|zzZZzzagred
00:38.53mickey|zzZZzzagreed
00:38.55mickey|zzZZzzg'night
00:39.00otaviomickey|zzZZzz: g'night
00:42.13CIA-503Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * r212f7abe16 10openembedded.git/packages/vte/vte.inc:
00:42.13CIA-5vte: move gnome-pty-helper to a specific package
00:42.13CIA-5Other vte based terminals do not use the helper then it is better to
00:42.13CIA-5make it optional.
00:42.14CIA-503Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * rac86b27556 10openembedded.git/packages/xfce/xfce-terminal_0.2.8.bb: xfce-terminal: rdepends on gnome-pty-helper
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00:47.37otaviomickey|zzZZzz: where I find matchbox terminal?
00:52.12otaviogoes to investigate vala-terminal ...
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01:05.26CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r29ba23c6c4 10openembedded.git/packages/nxcl/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
01:05.26CIA-5libnxcl: various updates from my work for the n810
01:05.26CIA-5* adding ssh proxy support
01:05.26CIA-5* delete the client logfiles option
01:05.26CIA-5* warnings about ssh errors
01:05.28CIA-5* better ssh-key handling
01:05.30CIA-5* bump PR
01:05.38CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rab9e5fb6dc 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev
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01:57.08omlurhollasssssss
01:57.18omluralguna chica
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02:11.12robtowanyone here familiar with using src_distribute_local in the local.conf file?
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02:20.01robtowkergoth.... got a minute?
02:21.55robtowI added to lines to conf/local.conf:
02:22.10robtowSRC_DIST_LOCAL = "copy" INHERIT += "src_distribute_local"
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02:22.29robtowBut it did not appear to generate the /sources dir.
02:22.40robtowShould those two lines go in some other config file?
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03:18.25robtowanyone here use src_distribute_local in a config file?
03:20.20Genesisbye
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07:11.01Openfreehi~ is it possbile to make OE pre-fetch all the source packages before compiling?
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07:26.31microlithis openembedded.net supposed to show just a silly "nothing here" and a link to openembedded.org?
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07:31.43hrwmorning
07:31.54hrwOpenfree: bitbake -cfetchall target
07:33.38Openfreehrw, thanks, before i've tried "bitbake -c fetch xx", and doesn't work
07:47.56hrwnp
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08:08.28nik0nanoybody of you working with intel atom?
08:08.59nik0nis there a kernel out which is know to work quiet good with the processor and the iegd_mod kernel module?
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08:46.13microlithawesome, shasum-native compiles and works but the do_compile fails
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09:58.10hrwnik0n: look at poky trunk - they work on atom machines
10:02.31likewisehrw: are they on actual h/w already?
10:02.44likewisehrw: are you involved with Poky still?
10:03.17likewisehrw: I'm interested in bringing the x86 support in OE in-sync with current state of affairs (poky and intel wise)
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10:10.56hrwlikewise: I am not involved in Poky trunk anymore - I work on Poky 'pinky' based repository for one client. Poky guys works on actual hardware (existing and/or not-released probably too)
10:13.37likewisehrwq: pinky is a release name?
10:13.55hrwyes
10:14.00hrw3.1 was pinky
10:14.28hrwthere is branch for elroy but it was not released and there is no info when it will be released
10:14.41hrwbut Atom stuff is only in trunk
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10:21.30thesingmorning all
10:22.06hrwhi thesing florian
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10:31.53methrilmorning
10:34.48Longfieldmorning
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10:45.16LongfieldI have a build problem with gcc-cross-sdk on i386, has someone noticed this ? http://pastebin.com/m5f78a88d
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10:55.45pb__zecke: hail zecke
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11:02.37Jin^eLDhuhu
11:02.54Jin^eLDdid anyone try OE with TI DA83xx hardware?
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11:05.47Jin^eLDrather da8xx :)
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11:09.26likewiseJin^eLD: DA83xx?
11:09.33likewiseJin^eLD: and hi!
11:09.36Jin^eLDDA8xx, no "3", my mistake
11:09.39Jin^eLDhey likewise
11:12.01likewiseJin^eLD: is that successor to omap3?
11:13.30Jin^eLDit seems so
11:13.46Jin^eLDI am not quite sure
11:15.01Jin^eLDI am wondering if anyone had any contact with it
11:15.19Jin^eLDand maybe tried it with OE
11:15.35Longfieldis someone able to build gcc-cross-sdk-4.2.4-r4 ?
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11:30.43Longfieldwhat is the name of the stage in OE/bitbake when ltmain.sh (from libtool) is used when you build a library ?
11:32.15Longfieldhum ... looks like libtoolizing is done at configuration stage (do_configure)
11:37.07pb__you mean when libtool itself is built?  yes, that happens during do_configure.
11:45.07hrwhmm.. drivers/power/ driver for AC handling looks interesting
11:50.50brooniehrw: In what way?
11:51.25dcordescan somebody look why my bitbake destroys src urls? http://pastebin.ca/1268554
11:53.08hrwbroonie: I have device (7y old progear) which lack AC/Battery reporting. I have ugly hacked acpi drivers for older 2.6 (2.6.19 works) which get AC (via pci config area) and Battery (via i2c)
11:53.45hrwbroonie: now want to write new drivers basing on those ones. hacking acpi is no use as AC is not reported by acpi on this device at all
11:54.11broonieOh, you mean it's of interest rather than in the "interesting times" sense?
11:54.30hrwyep
11:57.46Jin^eLDlikewise: I was wrong after all, it is DA830
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12:10.23Jin^eLDhave it before me right now :>
12:11.55likewiseJin^eLD: damn you :-)
12:12.09likewiseJin^eLD: ask on #beagle!
12:12.52likewiseJin^eLD: where is the link to that board?
12:14.40Jin^eLDhmm I don't know, I'd have to look in google
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12:23.44hrwI gave up
12:24.53hrwplatform_device etc stuff in kernel scared me
12:25.38hrwthere is lot of code just to open/read/close to get status etc
12:25.53broonieReally?
12:26.16brooniePower drivers are pretty lightweight - you just get a callback from the core and fill in the blank.
12:27.19hrwmaybe I will do another attempt but tis time not using pda_power as base example
12:28.02hrwpalmtx one looks more sane
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12:57.02CIA-503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9c46ce7b5a 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-omap git: bump SRCREV
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13:07.06hrwok, lets reboot and check
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13:14.07zeckejohncylee: moin
13:14.20johncyleezecke: 早安
13:14.29zeckeman, somehow kmail refuses to talk to the imap server :(
13:14.41johncyleezecke: (good morning in Chinese)
13:19.17hrwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1GBPreUPXk& - 1GB/s from nand
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13:28.22CIA-503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbb668b9e99 10openembedded.git/packages/angstrom/angstrom-feed-configs.bb: angstrom feed configs: generate config files for locale feeds as well
13:30.19CIA-503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rf00490ab31 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc: angstrom: use src_distribute_local in symlink mode by default
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14:01.49Jin^eLDatc: there are no CDs there anymore
14:01.51Jin^eLDoops wrong window
14:01.52Jin^eLD:)
14:04.16CIA-503Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7b10f59aca 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/vlc/vlc_0.9.4.bb): vlc: update 0.9.4 to 0.9.6 to get rid of the "version <foo> has vulnerabilities" nag screen
14:06.40hrwargh
14:18.03Jin^eLDwhat does this get me? $ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded
14:18.08Jin^eLDthe org.openembedded.dev?
14:18.37Jin^eLDvimacs: I'm holding back my vomit reflexes ;)
14:18.43Jin^eLDoops wrong window :> some fonts talk heh
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14:21.38likewiseJin^eLD: yes, org.oe.dev
14:22.04Jin^eLDso I do not have to go to some branch separaetely, thats already the dev thing? btw, will there be an updated stable?
14:24.19likewiseJin^eLD: dunno, I could not use the current stable in any product, so I was not able to spend any time on maintaining it... that sucked.
14:25.14Jin^eLDI see
14:25.27Jin^eLDwell, it's kind of old if one wanted to use it for a new project I guess
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14:28.12hrw~curse platform model
14:28.13ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, platform model !
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14:29.05hrwelo otavio
14:32.28hrwsick
14:32.51brooniehrw: ?
14:34.48Jin^eLDhmm
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14:34.53Jin^eLDI keep getting an error from the staging helper
14:34.58Jin^eLDsome shell magic is not working out
14:35.07Jin^eLDsyntax error near unexpected token `('
14:35.12Jin^eLDand that's the check for kernel size
14:35.27Jin^eLDdid anyone see that?
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14:36.58hrwbroonie: device/driver platform model strikes again
14:37.06hrwis not a kernel hacker type
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14:38.09brooniehrw: It should be fairly simple? The only magic bit is that you separately say "there is hardware of type X" and "there is a driver for hardwar of type X" then the kernel matches them up at run time.
14:38.15hrwmy init function is called, driver registers fine but probe() function is never called
14:38.29broonieAre you registering the device?
14:38.30Jin^eLDthis is the failing generated line die  "This kernel (size=$size > ) is too big for your device. Please reduce the size of the kernel by making more of it modular."
14:38.37Jin^eLDit does not like the parens -> "("
14:38.37hrwbroonie: that hardware is one register in PMU
14:38.56broonieNormally that's done outside of the driver so you won't see it in what you're templating off.
14:39.14broonieeg, in arch/arm on ARM systems.
14:39.28hrwfscking crap
14:40.20broonieIt means that the driver can run on more than one board - the board specific init tells the kernel what hardare is present.
14:40.41broonieplatform_device_register_simple() in your init() function should do the trick, though.
14:40.45CIA-503Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br> 07org.openembedded.dev * rba930010d4 10openembedded.git/packages/xfce/ (xfce-terminal/into-support.patch xfce-terminal_0.2.8.bb): xfce-terminal: add --into support
14:45.26hrwbroonie: http://pastebin.ca/1268620
14:46.23hrwbroonie: init registers driver, then register_simple() device and quits.
14:46.46zeckehrw: you have a device with the name on the bus?
14:46.47Jin^eLDcan I somehow disable the testlab.bbclass?
14:46.50brooniehrw: You're registering a device called progear-ac and a driver called progear-power
14:46.55Jin^eLDit adds some shell stuff that is broken
14:47.58hrwbroonie: argh.. that was that.. now it works^Woops
14:51.05Jin^eLDah I see.. angstrom.inc is inheriting it..
14:52.56hrw8 years old bioses are nightmare
14:54.43Jin^eLDdoh...
14:55.05Jin^eLDI thought testlab produces the staging helper scripts, I took testlab out of angstrom.inc but it's still used
14:55.38Jin^eLDwhat exactly is the staging helper doing anyway?
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15:13.09Jin^eLDguys? anyone? what is this "staging helper" and is it possible to continue without it?
15:23.59mwestermicrolith:  disable ccache
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15:36.19hrwbye
15:36.30hrw|gonebroonie: reading AC works now ;D
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17:24.37microlithmwester: oh, didn't see your response... must've been a while ago. thanks!
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17:56.35kgilmerhello :)   there was a change to the name of the root dir when migrating from monotone to git:   org.openembedded.dev became openembedded.
17:56.39kgilmerright?
17:58.02kgilmeri ask because i'm starting fresh with the git repo and this is what i'm seeing.  also some wiki stuff still references the old name.  so i was going to fix it...
18:03.07kgilmeralright, well, I changed the wiki.
18:04.12kgilmerit would seem, however, that the Introduction section needs to be rewritten.  
18:05.58kgilmeri left the intro alone but it will need to be changed if a n00b like me can make sense of it
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18:16.25pb__hi mickey|ezx
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18:26.55microlithanyone run into an issue where builds fail with the message "collect2: cannot find 'ld'"?
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18:37.31kalemasmicrolith: i had some thing like this...
18:37.48kalemaswhat is the previous line?
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18:45.18microlithnothing
18:45.21microliththe log contains only that line
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18:50.10kalemasstrange, what package do you build?
18:50.40microlithhappens on shasum-native
18:50.48microlithtrying to do build nano
18:50.51microlithjust to get started
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19:05.45kalemasplease, ensure you have setup all properly, check installed packages on host. what says gcc --version? can you build programs on your host?
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19:07.22microlithgcc version is 4.2, I installed it because 4.3 was giving me fits on another, unrelated machine
19:07.30microlithand yes, I can build applications fine on the host
19:07.47microlithin fact, shasum-native builds and runs normally
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19:56.24CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5eaec46687 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/progear.conf: progear: do not recommend ac/battery modules cause they break with newer kernels
19:56.28CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1f80b4adde 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: added junit, progear-ac, ruby
19:56.28CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rd93dc9bb5d 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/progear.conf: progear: use pentium mmx tune, switch to i586
19:56.35CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra3957793fc 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/progear.conf: progear: install all kernel modules
19:56.38CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rb1ae267e2b 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
19:56.41CIA-5linux: added 2.6.27 as default for Progear
19:56.59CIA-5Progear also use one update for backlight and experimental driver for AC
19:56.59CIA-5status.
19:56.59CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r1e7a38fcda 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/include/tune-pentiummmx.inc: tune-pentiummmx.inc: tune for MMX i586
19:56.59CIA-503Marcin Juszkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4852999e82 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: added progear-battery
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20:06.31timtimredshocking. and OE facebook group.
20:10.45likewise_timtimred: where?
20:11.10timtimredsearch for it and click groups...
20:11.18timtimredif its not already there
20:11.35likewise_timtimred: you need to be a member there?
20:11.55timtimredi dont but i just joined. despite the normal strict ban of geek stuff from my profile ;)
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20:12.43timtimredin fact 3 of us from foonas all joined it today
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20:30.18hrw|gonethere is also OE group on linkedin
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20:32.07timtimredim still trying to accumilate enough will power to join another social network thing.
20:32.38zecke_johncylee: oh, go to bed!
20:32.39timtimredfacepoke takes up enough time
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21:56.12florianre
21:57.08woglindehi florian
21:57.10CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rbdab38d2b5 10openembedded.git/packages/qtnx/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
21:57.10CIA-5qtnx: add my latets patches from the n810 work
21:57.10CIA-5* add patch for keychoose dialog
21:57.10CIA-5* integrate the stuff from the dodnx fork
21:57.10CIA-5including the nxssh-proxy support
21:57.12CIA-5* add patch for choosing the keyboard
21:57.16CIA-5* add patch for delete session files
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22:16.14pb_hi woglinde
22:17.34woglindehe pb
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22:24.11hamid_rostamihi all
22:24.30florianhi hamid_rostami
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22:24.47hamid_rostamii'm new to oe, have an error when i want too compile fr example nano
22:25.24hamid_rostamihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/77511/
22:26.01woglindesqlite3.OperationalError: attempt to write a readonly database
22:26.28hamid_rostamiwoglinde: yes
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22:28.12hamid_rostamiwhy this error occured ?
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22:28.40woglindero filesystem?
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22:31.08hamid_rostamiwoglinde: which filesystem ?
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22:35.54hamid_rostamisorry,  is there anyone to help ?
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22:37.57woglindehamid_rostami the filesystem where you point your oetmp-dir
22:38.55hamid_rostamiwoglinde: ext3, but i'm not set oetmp-dir
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22:41.02hamid_rostamiwoglinde: oh yes, i'm set it, ext3
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22:42.15woglindewhere did you point TMPDIR in your local.conf?
22:42.34hamid_rostamiwoglinde: TMPDIR = /home/hamid/OE/oetmp
22:42.58robtowAnyone here familiar with using src_distribute_local in config files?
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22:51.45hamid_rostamiwaiting :)
22:54.41woglindehamid_rostami is there a file in /home/hamid/OE/oetmp?
22:54.55woglindecan you do a touch /home/hamid/OE/oetmp/moo ?
22:56.44hamid_rostamiwoglinde: oh, that problem is resolved,
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22:57.08hamid_rostamiwoglinde: with chmod 777 -R oetmp
22:57.46woglindehm
22:57.50woglindea soultion
22:57.55woglindebut not the best one
22:58.01hamid_rostamiwoglinde: yes :)
22:58.13hamid_rostamiwoglinde: now, i have anouther error
22:58.59woglindego on
22:59.23hamid_rostamiwoglinde: no, resolved :)
22:59.36woglindehaha
23:00.14hamid_rostamiwoglinde: echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr :)
23:03.15woglindeyes
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23:22.55CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcb59c63769 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/libxcomp/libxcomp_3.3.0-3.bb):
23:22.55CIA-5libxcomp: update to latest releas from nomachine
23:22.55CIA-5* remove the patch for ssh we will now use nxssh
23:22.55CIA-5which has ssh-proxy support
23:22.57CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6612250684 10openembedded.git/packages/nxcl/libnxcl_0.9.bb: libnxcl: set RDEPENDS to nxssh and bump PR
23:23.00CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * r5473b49afe 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): nxssh: initial import
23:23.03CIA-503woglinde <heinold@inf.fu-berlin.de> 07org.openembedded.dev * rdce11f705f 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/nxproxy/nxproxy_3.3.0-2.bb):
23:23.06CIA-5nxproxy: update to latest release from nomachine
23:23.08CIA-5* disable patch for stock-ssh support, because
23:23.10CIA-5we are now using nxssh with ssh-proxy support
23:27.44zeckewoglinde: go to bed
23:30.43woglindehehe
23:30.46woglindesoon
23:30.53woglindehave to send out assigment over
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