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06:45.45methrilmorning
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07:52.19rob_wfor example package initscripts-1.0-r104: task do_package: completed but i get no ipk package of it in my deploy ??
07:52.51hrwdo_package_write do packages
07:54.38rob_wdo i need to set a explicit INHERIT = "do_package_write" in my local.conf ?
07:54.52rwhitbyrob_w: make an image which includes it
07:54.58rwhitbyimages write out all packages
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07:55.19hrwrob_w: or use -cbuildall
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07:56.36rwhitbyoooh - buildall, I didn't know about that one :-)
07:58.54rob_wi am using .stable in a x86_64 and a x86_32 and on the 64 it doesnt create the package but on the 32bit one ..??
08:01.42rob_wah -cbuild looks good .. thanks everyone
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08:30.14oxohello
08:30.31oxohas a failing glibc-intermediate build in .dev
08:30.33oxohttp://pastebin.ca/1054977
08:33.06methrillooks like a bad host architecture
08:33.26oxowhat do you mean?
08:34.53dl9pfmethril could it be the same as in my case ? -> stable and the tune-pentium.inc ?
08:35.16methrilcould be
08:35.44methrili had a host machine, and i changed the builds, and didn't change the host machine
08:35.55dl9pfoxo: for what arch are you building ? or post you local.conf on pastebin
08:36.10methrilthen, i had problems with assembler beacuse it was trying to build code for other architecture
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08:37.44oxodl9pf: http://pastebin.ca/1054980
08:40.25dl9pfoxo: hmmm TARGET_CC_ARCH is set (an old default was the problem here)
08:41.17diegodo you have deleted the tmp directory after changing .conf files
08:41.31oxoyes
08:41.44oxothis is a clean build, I deleted tmp and even ccache
08:42.50dl9pfno good idea atm ... sri
08:43.14oxodl9pf: last week's build, when my portwell.conf still was march=pentium4, there were no problems
08:43.43oxobut it has to run on a p3 portwell as well, so I downgraded the arch
08:43.43dl9pfok ... so TARGET_CC_ARCH is somewhat critical
08:44.06oxonot sure, could be that in the meantime binutils/gcc/glibc have been updated
08:44.38oxobut I'll rebuild using pentium4
08:45.05dl9pfyou could try march=pentium2
08:45.20oxoyeah, but march=i686 failed as well
08:45.32oxoI'll see if pentium4 still builds
08:45.40dl9pfok
08:46.54oxoI see binutils was updated recently
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08:58.59pb_hi florian
08:59.33floriangood morning!
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09:13.37methriloxo, where is the BUILD_ARCH ?
09:13.46methrili think taht this is missing
09:20.51oxoyou could be right
09:21.37oxoI'll first wait the build of glibc-intermediate using p4
09:25.14oxomethril: conf/bitbake.conf:BUILD_ARCH = "${@os.uname()[4]}"
09:25.27oxoI think that'll suffice
09:26.06methrilit could i never tested without
09:26.37oxoit looks like it's very unusual to set BUILD_ARCH
09:27.03methrilaha
09:27.17methrilbut if you have a bad one, it could be bad
09:27.37oxowhat do you mean with 'bad one'?
09:28.01methrilin my debian, if a put uname -a, the four element is #1 or SMP
09:28.05methrilnot the arch
09:28.09oxoah
09:28.13oxoI'll see
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09:30.33hrwmethril: uname() syscall != uname command
09:30.37oxomethril: I think it doesn't split on space
09:30.39oxoBB>> getvar BUILD_ARCH
09:30.39oxoi686
09:30.46oxoso that's the "right" one
09:31.03hrw>>> print os.uname()
09:31.03hrw('Linux', 'home', '2.6.26-rc4', '#43 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 3 13:00:04 CEST 2008', 'x86_64')
09:31.11oxoexactly
09:31.15hrw11:31 hrw@home:~$ uname -a
09:31.15hrwLinux home 2.6.26-rc4 #43 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 3 13:00:04 CEST 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
09:31.42methrilok :)
09:37.03oxodl9pf: glibc-intermediate dies with a different error builing for pentium4
09:37.19oxocould it be that the recent binutils change breaks (my) glibc build?
09:38.19hrwoxo: -march=pentium or -mcpu=pentium?
09:38.23zeckepossible
09:38.55oxohrw: march=pentium4
09:39.27oxostrange thing is, last week or so (with identical config), glibc did build
09:41.57methrilsome gcc upgrade?
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09:43.40oxogcc has not been updated since last succesful build
09:44.53methrilthen non sense for me
09:44.57methril:(
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10:30.19Crofton|workany suggestions on building an image without building a kernel?
10:30.50Sup3rkiddoam i getting this because i have -ggdb CFLAG?..http://dpaste.com/58797/ ?
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10:33.09oxodl9pf: I'll rebuild using bintils 2.18 instead of the ..7
10:33.18oxo(effectively reverting koen's change)
10:33.35Crofton|workSup3rkiddo, post the link with out the . in front of the http
10:33.53Crofton|workthe . breaks link parsing in the irc lcients
10:33.57Sup3rkiddoyes..sorry
10:34.04Crofton|workand we are a lazy lot
10:34.07Sup3rkiddohttp://dpaste.com/58797/
10:34.11Sup3rkiddoCrofton, :P,
10:34.14CIA-4803Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r7303fe99... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
10:34.14CIA-48cmake: move definition of CMAKE_MAJOR_VERSION into python function in .inc
10:34.14CIA-48* no further changes across major versions necessary
10:34.18CIA-4803Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r69bd190d... 10/ (16 files in 4 dirs): olsr: consolidate olsr and olsrd into a common directory
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10:36.00Crofton|workSup3rkiddo, I don't know the answer to your question
10:36.27Sup3rkiddohmm...ok :/.
10:36.50hrwLaibsch: ping?
10:38.00Laibschyes
10:40.00methriloxo do you know why binutils it's breaking a glibc-intermediate?
10:41.43Crofton|workhttp://venturebeat.com/2008/06/24/nokia-buys-symbian-opens-it-for-war-with-google-android/
10:42.24hrwLaibsch: Poky got cmake 2.6.x - I just do not have time to merge it back to OE
10:42.47Laibschhrw: I won't promise anything
10:43.03LaibschI may take a look, but I don't have access to a lot of CPU cycles today
10:43.07hrwof course - just saw that you played with it
10:43.28Laibschthanks for pointing that out
10:43.46Laibschwe should have better support for merging stuff once we got git, I guess
10:44.15LaibschI wasn't playing with cmake in particular but olsr got my interest in the MAJ_VER stuff
10:44.23LaibschPV = 2.4.6
10:44.28LaibschMAJ_VER = 2.4
10:44.44LaibschRight now, a lot of times that is hardcoded instead of calculated
10:44.57Laibschwas thinking about adding an FAQ entry to the wiki
10:45.30hrwLaibsch: can we drop FAQ/ namespace?
10:45.37hrwCategory:FAQ should be enough
10:46.00oxomethril: no
10:46.22oxobut I do know that all perfectly builds using binutils_cross 2.18
10:46.50oxoso I suspect binutils 2.18.50.0.7 is broken somehow
10:47.11methrilok, thanks
10:48.05Laibschhrw: we could drop it, I put it in to avoid any possibility for a pagename conflicts
10:48.53Laibschand to make sure from the page name that it is an FAQ
10:49.04LaibschI am open about this
10:49.45methrilhttp://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Category:FAQ ?
10:49.49methrilLaibsch
10:49.50hrwLaibsch: I think that HowTo and FAQ would be mixed more or less
10:50.39LaibschOK, let's drop the namespace and rename FAQ category to Howto?
10:50.55Laibschmethril: yes, that is what we are talking about
10:56.44florianmorning mickeyl
10:57.18hrwhi mickeyl
10:58.08mickeylmorning folks!
10:58.11mickeylhey florian, hrw
10:58.37hrwmickeyl: will openmoko support hildon on devices?
10:59.07Crofton|workone of you has to know how to build an image that does not try to build a kernel .....
11:00.10mickeylhrw: no idea
11:00.11mickeylthat's a question for openmoko-devel :)
11:01.09hrw;)
11:03.29zeckehrw: hilton?
11:04.56hrwzecke: maemo
11:07.07hrw-> fod
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11:10.21XorACrofton|work: ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/kernel"
11:11.17Crofton|workXorA, too easy
11:11.28gerwininI am trying to compile for avr32 but I am getting bitbake errors saying information not available for avr32-linux
11:11.45Crofton|workeven "too obvious"
11:14.09Crofton|workcomplicating matter is I've been logged in to the machien doing the build and editing files on the local machine .......
11:14.18Crofton|workno wonder I've been going insaen
11:15.18hrw;D
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12:28.48dl9pf| configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first
12:28.48dl9pf| make[1]: *** [i686-linux-libtool] Error 1
12:28.48dl9pf| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jsmoeller/tmp/OE/tmp/work/i686-linux/libtool-native-1.5.10-r9/libtool-1.5.10'
12:29.10hrwdl9pf: symlinks in path
12:29.40dl9pfit worked until i removed the /tmp
12:29.56dl9pfi didn't make any symlinks ... hmmm
12:36.11dl9pfseems an error when there are multiple slashes in a path e.g.  /home/xyz//tmp/OE  <- scripted TMPDIR
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12:48.28dl9pfprobably some patch -pX didn't work or something is broken then
13:04.07gerwininIt seems my avr32 built doesn't come past glibc-initial
13:10.39LaibschDoes http://rafb.net/p/FgY6Cz58.html make sense?  There are quite a few packages out there with three-tiered versions (gtkmm is one example).  Some of them structure their download area by MAJ_VER (if PV is 2.1.12, then MAJ_VER is 2.1).  I think it would make sense to have MAJ_VER available in everywhere.  RP?
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13:50.09chouimat|workmorning
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14:08.36pb_Laibsch: what happens with that patch if PV isn't in the format you expect?
14:12.26LaibschThen MAJ_VER becomes unusable
14:12.40LaibschNothing gained nothing lost when compared to current behaviour
14:12.44pb_You don't get a parsing exception?
14:13.45CIA-4803crofton 07org.oe.dev * r1240b755... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 : Update to latest git, build tested only.
14:13.51CIA-4803crofton 07org.oe.dev * r1a7d8ef4... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-omap2 : Remove patches that are now available from kernel git repository,
14:20.02dl9pfis there a good template for new packages ?
14:28.25pb_dl9pf: that's a bit of a vague question.  there are many good templates but which one is appropriate depends rather on what the new package is that you are trying to create.
14:31.04dl9pfuserspace, conf/make/make install - style
14:31.50dl9pfmostly about not to forget the FILES or staging or similar
14:32.20pb_if it's a "simple" package (just binaries, no libraries) then you shouldn't need to set FILES or staging or anything like that.
14:32.35pb_if it's a library then more or less any existing library package which uses autotools.bbclass should be a good example
14:33.06pb_if you have files in weird places then there probably isn't any single template that will help much, it's probably a question of striking out on your own at that point.
14:37.50Crofton|workXorA, ASSUME_PROVIDED += "virtual/kernel" doesn't stop linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x_git.bb from tryting to build ....
14:40.12XorACrofton|work: maybe its depended on directly by something else
14:40.24XorACrofton|work: youd have to decode the dependency graphs
14:41.41XorAyou can always ASSUME_PROVIDED that directly as well
14:42.09XorAhey mickeyl I made my first ever phone call on gta02 :-)
14:42.20XorAmickeyl: and that was fso-image on my busted gta02
14:42.24mickeylyeaaaaaaaaah
14:42.29mickeylplease post about that!
14:42.35mickeyl"fso-image gets it right"
14:42.37mickeylor something ;)
14:42.51XorAwell fso does seem to eat 100% cpu when gsm modem is iffy
14:43.02mickeylyeah, it does
14:43.09mickeyli'm putting like... TONS of debug output into syslog
14:43.17mickeylroom for lots of optimization
14:43.21XorAok, fair enough, I figured it was something like that
14:43.30XorAbut even with the recamping gta02 a phone call was made
14:43.38mickeyl:)
14:43.42XorAI deleted my blog ages ago, so no-where to post
14:43.57mickeylhehe, just drop it off to openmoko-devel or community
14:44.02XorAfso gets wife + vote as well
14:44.10mickeylwow, cool. greet her from em
14:44.12mickeyls/em/me/
14:44.35mickeylfeeling the work started 2008.01 was worth it
14:44.44mickeyland it's just the beginning
14:44.57mickeyl~praise shoragan and alphaone and stefan_schmidt as well
14:44.57ibotAll hail shoragan and alphaone and stefan_schmidt as well!
14:47.53XorAmickeyl: mail is off
14:49.36XorAsed -i .tw -e "s|ASU|FSO|g"
14:49.41mickeylhehe
14:50.15pb_mickeyl: heh, you can make phone calls now?  awesome!
14:50.16mickeylthanks. every bit of positive feedback strenghtens my position wrt. Wolfgang and Sean.
14:50.19pb_all hail mickey
14:50.32mickeylhehehe
14:50.34mickeylindeed, we can
14:50.38pb_rock
14:50.43mickeyl*nod* it was about time ;)
14:50.46mwester:)  It is indeed a nice bit of work
14:50.48XorAmickeyl: email should have hit the lists, I just got my copy mailed back :-D
14:50.55mickeylcoolies
14:51.23XorAwishes he had been listened to 6 months ago
14:51.24mickeylmwester: thanks for your feedback as well, btw. I'm trying to create a mail wrt. 'big picture ASU|2007.2|FSO' during this week
14:51.32mickeylXorA: *nod*
14:52.12XorAmickeyl: Im going to take fso-image to lug a week on thurs
14:52.23mickeylpb_: i know more about AT and V250 now that I every wanted to, but hey... it seems it was worth it :)
14:52.39mickeylXorA: ah, pretty cool. keep me posted about how they like it
14:53.01XorAmickeyl: will do, if you come up with anything stable youd like to show off before then, let me know
14:53.06DuckFaultIf I have a package with multiple init scripts, how can I add them to INITSCRIPT_NAME such that they both get added to the install at the right runlevel (I'm using update-rc.d)?
14:53.45XorADuckFault: I think the second one you unfortuneately have to do manually
14:54.01mickeylXorA: ok. i'll check whether i can launch an updated milestone1++ image. we have reduced memory footprint (1 instead of 4 python daemons) and added a lock screen. otherwise, nothing changed since ms1
14:54.14DuckFaultXorA: Not what I wanted to hear, but thanks much.
14:55.59DuckFaultXorA: Wait, found it in some docs (uses multiple packages within a single .bb file): http://www.openembedded.info/usermanual.html#AEN4002
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15:18.55hrwbye
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15:33.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 4388 has been created by mdarland(AT)pager.net
15:33.08cdbot2* * binutils 2.18.50.0.7 breaks glibc-intermediate 2.6.1
15:33.10cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4388
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16:39.28Sup3rkiddohi, can anyone enlighten me on this error, i am drawing a big blank :(. http://dpaste.com/58853/ i thought it was due to the -ggdb flag but seems that thats not it
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16:57.53XorA|goneSup3rkiddo: looks like your FILE_${PN} is too powerful and specifically sucking in debug directories :-)
16:58.31XorA|goneSup3rkiddo: where is your .bb file
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18:14.54Crofton|workXorA|gone,
18:15.09XorA|goneCrofton|work: yo
18:15.13Crofton|workhey
18:15.23Crofton|workI'm looking through the depends files now
18:15.45Crofton|workit would appear that thing only depend on the kernel in dehte depends.dot
18:16.00Crofton|workbut "console-image.do_rootfs" -> "linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x.do_package_write_ipk"
18:16.16Crofton|workappears in task-depends, among lots of other things
18:16.42Crofton|workASSUME_PROVIDED += "linux-ml403-slab-2.6.x"
18:16.47Crofton|workdoes not stop the pain .....
18:17.34XorA|gonehrmpphh
18:17.38XorA|gonethings must have changed
18:17.46XorA|goneIve done that before in the distant past
18:18.01Crofton|workyou would think there would be a way to do this
18:18.24Crofton|workbuilding a kernel for one of these FPGA boards is finicky
18:18.35Crofton|workwe just want a quick rootfs ....
18:18.48Crofton|worksince it took these guys two months get a booting kernel
18:19.18XorA|goneCrofton|work: it certainly used to work that ASSUME_PROVIDED, I did that when I first started on smdk24xx boards in OE
18:19.39Crofton|workI'm going to look at image.bbclass
18:19.41XorA|gonebut there is a lot of stuff like initramfs, package-staging etc gone into OE since then
18:19.44Crofton|workand email the list
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18:24.46CIA-4803koen 07org.oe.dev * rdfea6fd0... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-omap2 git: add ASoC patch for beagleboard and update defconfig
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18:42.19TartarusSolution, but no patch (not sure which file to patch) on bug 4389, if someone is feeling interested
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18:45.16cyrilRomainmorning
18:46.10oxohmm
18:46.38oxomy glibc-problem could be related to #4388
18:47.21oxo(building glibc-intermediate using 2.17.50.0.7 breaks)
18:49.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4389 has been created by trini(AT)embeddedalley.com
18:49.07cdbot2* * libxcomposite-1_0.4.0 needs libxext
18:49.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4389
19:07.28CIA-4803koen 07org.oe.dev * r9d42338c... 10/ (36 files in 35 dirs): linux-omap2 git: add 16bpp for beagle
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19:34.47teamnoirwaves
19:35.06teamnoirWhat's a convenient distro/target to work with on the stable branch?
19:38.00cyrilRomain<PROTECTED>
19:38.25teamnoirk, thanks.  then just bitbake world?
19:38.28cyrilRomainteamnoir: hm for the machine I don't know which is the most maintained
19:38.46cyrilRomainteamnoir: 'bitbake world' ? why would you do that ?
19:39.03cyrilRomainteamnoir: just bitbake the image you want to test ;)
19:39.03hagisbasherukbeagleboard guys are working heavly on omap3 right now
19:39.05teamnoirer... what bitbake target does one build then to build a distro?
19:39.29teamnoirWhat's a plausible image to start with, then?
19:40.31CIA-4803crofton 07org.oe.dev * r36b676b8... 10/ (34 files in 34 dirs): Various : Remove uneeded files.
19:41.16Croftonteamnoir, bitbake console-image is agood starting point
19:41.21cyrilRomainteamnoir: console-image
19:41.49cyrilRomainteamnoir: then x11-image or  x11-gpe-image
19:41.52teamnoirthanks.  and a reasonable machine?
19:42.12teamnoir(if it were vmware or qemu bootable, that'd be a bonus).
19:42.45hagisbasherukhi Crofton i see you have been busy reorginising uneeded files :) anything new on SDR / Beagleboard side
19:42.51cyrilRomainteamnoir: you could then try qemux86
19:43.05Crofton|workworking on sound via SOC
19:43.07hagisbasherukopps sorry wrong channel
19:43.20teamnoirThanks.  That's my project for this afternoon, then.
19:43.41cyrilRomainteamnoir: you welcome :)
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19:54.45mewynI'm trying to build an x86 build of OE and I'm getting an error when trying to build glibc-intermediate-2.6.1, I get suffix or operands invalid for `fnstsw'.  Anyone ever see that before?
19:55.28oxoyes, I believe bug #4388
19:55.51mewynIt didn't do this on a VM
19:57.03oxohas glibc-intermediate still failing on http://pastebin.ca/1054977
19:57.58oxotried everything, march=pentium4, march=i686, march=pentium2, reverting to OE-tree of one month ago, forcing binutils to 2.18, forcing gcc to 4.2.2
19:58.10oxoI am not able to build glibc anymore :-(
19:59.32oxoeven tried building on my `old' build machine
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20:20.35oxolooks like my glibc-problem is SMP-related, without -j it seems to build in more cases than with
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20:29.17mewynI'm doing two things with OE right now, I'm evaluating it for some stuff for my company, a PPC and ARM based SBC for data aquisition and for personal use in a NAS and a MAME-cabinet, to replace full distros.
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20:32.08CIA-4803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re1bcfff1... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openezx-devel_svn.bb): add linux-openezx-devel, restarting EZX work inline w/ upstream
20:32.13CIA-4803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3f2d07f6... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/motorola-ezx-base.inc): motorola-ezx-base.inc: give local.conf a chance to override the preferred kernel
20:50.15tharveyso is there some reason why 'bitbake -c fetch <target>' would not be working?  I've never seen it prefetch all sources needed to build a target
20:51.49XorA|gonetharvey: -c fetchall
20:54.34tharveyah that explains it, thx
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20:55.41Crofton|workhi flo_lap
20:56.06flo_lapmickeyl: Is the generic distro alive again?
20:56.20mickeylya
20:56.27mickeyli've been able to build some stuff with it
20:56.35Crofton|workcan we rename it "minimal.distro"
20:56.58mickeylhmm, minimal.distro or 'minimal'
20:57.03mickeyl?
20:57.03Crofton|worker minimal.conf
20:57.06mickeylaaah
20:57.08Crofton|workmickeyl, right
20:57.11mickeyli agree
20:57.14mickeylwill do it right now
20:57.18Crofton|workthanks
20:57.34Crofton|workgeneric is an awful name, then people expect it to do what they want
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21:01.38CIA-4803mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r02a39af2... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:01.38CIA-48rename generic[-uclibc].conf to minimal[-uclibc].conf to better indicate that this is a distribution
21:01.38CIA-48configuration that serves as a lean-and-mean starting point, imposing only a minimal amount of policies.
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21:52.59woglindere pb
21:53.51pb__hi woglinde
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22:07.40ljphey pb__ how goes it
22:10.46pb__ljp: pretty good here, enjoying the summer, though dismayed to find that I am another year older today.
22:11.00pb__what's happening down there on the other side of the planet?
22:12.16ljpwinter :)
22:12.23ljpand lots of Nokia things
22:12.31pb__heh
22:12.45pb__very good
22:12.53ljpmostly good
22:17.42pb__bedtime now
22:17.43pb__night all
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22:34.15wirelessdreamerwhat is the standard package name for the joydev module?
22:36.56A__AHave you tried #angstrom wirelessdreamer?
22:37.09A__ASmiley face.
22:37.50wirelessdreamer=P
22:38.29A__AWhy is it not working?  Why would it not be working?  What has happened?
22:39.10wirelessdreamerangstrom seems to not have the joydev kernel module in its repository
22:40.11Fiquecould someone point me to a wiki page or answer how I can use an SVN version of a package
22:40.50A__Awirelessdreamer: ask again at an earler time.  7 GMT onwards.
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