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| 00:08.49 | ^Takut^ | is it possible to run linux on nokia 9300/9500 ? |
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| 00:48.16 | CIA-21 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r4834822e... 10/ (15 files in 8 dirs): |
| 00:48.16 | CIA-21 | gtk+: consolidate 2 patches which are identical across all versions into files/ and drop the remainder |
| 00:48.16 | CIA-21 | * xsettings.patch and gtklabel-resize-patch |
| 00:48.16 | CIA-21 | * there are probably other patches where this would be possible |
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| 07:14.33 | steliosk | good morning all ! |
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| 07:49.12 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 08:52.20 | Julian_chu | RP: ping |
| 08:59.09 | hrw | morning |
| 08:59.16 | hrw | Julian_chu: RP has holiday today |
| 08:59.49 | Julian_chu | hrw: Wow, thanks :) |
| 09:00.59 | Julian_chu | hopes also have holiday in Taiwan :P |
| 09:03.32 | hrw | ;D |
| 09:12.42 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 10:42.57 | CIA-21 | conf/machine/sequoia.conf : Use OE kernel infrastracture instead of a custom kernel .bb |
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| 10:47.07 | florian | good morning |
| 10:48.38 | Jin^eLD | hi florian |
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| 10:54.41 | jroman | hello |
| 10:55.12 | cbrake | moin |
| 10:57.01 | Jin^eLD | uclibc.inc in .stable makes a very horrid impression :) |
| 10:57.50 | jroman | I'm unable to include dbus package to my final image distro. I'm getting the following error -> Cannot find package dbus |
| 10:58.36 | jroman | nevertheless, dbus package is built with success with "bitbake dbus" |
| 10:59.15 | jroman | IMAGE_INSTALL += " ..... dbus ....." |
| 10:59.31 | jroman | any idea please? |
| 11:00.55 | jroman | (sorry, I have just the Topic of the channel, ...) |
| 11:01.25 | jroman | where can i to ask questions about distros? |
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| 11:26.42 | ex1stenz | http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html |
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| 11:36.38 | hrw | http://forge.mysql.com/people/person.php?id=1522 |
| 11:40.37 | Jin^eLD | lol |
| 11:40.57 | hrw | 1503 1462 too |
| 11:41.28 | hrw | got them in spam on blog |
| 11:42.16 | Jin^eLD | hmm, why is this reporting a syntax error? ERROR: 6:SyntaxError:'cp Makefile Makefile.orig' |
| 11:43.29 | hrw | show recipe? |
| 11:43.41 | Jin^eLD | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/422673 |
| 11:43.50 | Jin^eLD | well thats the failing function, but I can paste the whole recipe too |
| 11:44.08 | hrw | patch task is NOT shell |
| 11:44.10 | hrw | it is Python |
| 11:44.16 | Jin^eLD | aah crap |
| 11:44.21 | Jin^eLD | did not know that |
| 11:44.22 | Jin^eLD | thanks |
| 11:44.34 | Jin^eLD | hmm, configure_prepend ? |
| 11:44.34 | hrw | Jin^eLD: you want do_configure_prepend not do_patch_append |
| 11:44.39 | Jin^eLD | :) |
| 11:44.39 | Jin^eLD | thanks |
| 11:44.54 | hrw | ever heard about "sed -i" btw? |
| 11:44.59 | Jin^eLD | I'm still battling the uclibc/meta-toolchain thing |
| 11:45.10 | hrw | and make patch instead of that tasks |
| 11:45.17 | hrw | s/s$// |
| 11:45.29 | Jin^eLD | for now I try to follow the CLFS guide |
| 11:45.36 | Jin^eLD | once it works I will clean it up further |
| 11:45.40 | hrw | ok |
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| 11:46.33 | Jin^eLD | I believe RP's sysroot changes cleaned up the whole uclibc/gcc mess a lot, right? |
| 11:47.11 | Jin^eLD | that will not go into .stable though? |
| 11:47.59 | Crofton | most likely not until there is a new stable branch, at least in my opinion |
| 11:48.39 | Crofton | stable needs to mean stable :) , moving a big infrastructure change in would most likely lead to a period of instability |
| 11:48.39 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: ...and that's scheduled for end of year? |
| 11:48.49 | Crofton | not sure |
| 11:49.50 | Crofton | basically, you need a stable OE, with sysroot? |
| 11:50.01 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: well, I need a stable OE where meta-toolchain works :) |
| 11:50.17 | Jin^eLD | and the old toolchain recipes are indeed very difficult to grasp |
| 11:50.32 | Jin^eLD | I think RP cleaned up a lot of messy stuff in .dev |
| 11:50.38 | Crofton | you always have the option of creating your own stable |
| 11:50.58 | Jin^eLD | you mean by merging in the bits from .dev that I need? |
| 11:51.01 | Crofton | I strongly suspect that is a common practice for people doing product work |
| 11:51.16 | Crofton | well, take .dev and make a branch |
| 11:51.24 | hrw | Jin^eLD: s/OE/Poky and you will get it |
| 11:51.25 | hrw | ;) |
| 11:51.32 | Jin^eLD | hrw: nope ;) tried already |
| 11:51.43 | hrw | ah. uclib |
| 11:51.44 | hrw | c |
| 11:51.48 | Jin^eLD | yep :> |
| 11:52.24 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: well, I was kind of hoping that I could spare the branching and use .stable, and besides the meta-toolchain it was working out quite nicely |
| 11:56.02 | Crofton | if stable was perfect, we wouldn't need .dev :) |
| 11:56.59 | Jin^eLD | sure :) but my thought was that .stable is well suited for product development, while .dev is bleeding edge |
| 11:56.59 | hrw | and vice versa |
| 11:58.59 | Jin^eLD | dev is moving quite fast and gets broken from time to time, so .stable seems a good choice for product dev, imho at least |
| 11:59.13 | Jin^eLD | I tried going with .dev for the beginning but it was not going so well |
| 11:59.21 | Crofton | Jin^eLD, you are correct, but you also need one feature that wasn't ready for .stable |
| 11:59.34 | Crofton | but .stable works for others |
| 11:59.41 | Crofton | this stuff is hard :( |
| 11:59.48 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: well, I can't say that that I need sysroot, I simply need a working meta-toolchain :) |
| 12:00.04 | Jin^eLD | and meta-toolchain is indeed hard :( |
| 12:00.34 | Crofton | we understand the problem, but we can only do what we have resources for |
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| 12:00.51 | Crofton | and not many resources can meta-toolchain |
| 12:00.55 | Jin^eLD | I was talking about RP's sysroot changes simply because he cleaned up the gcc/etc packages, so I thought I might have more chances to get through with the new ones |
| 12:01.17 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: sure, I also understand that |
| 12:01.37 | hrw | Jin^eLD: and adding those changes to .stable require 1 manweek probably |
| 12:01.57 | Jin^eLD | uuh.. that's indeed a lot |
| 12:02.32 | Jin^eLD | well, I hope that I can survive with the clfs approach |
| 12:02.38 | Jin^eLD | let's see how that goes |
| 12:02.58 | Jin^eLD | the stuff inside OE (i.e. building things with OE) does work, so that's luckily not an issue |
| 12:03.36 | Jin^eLD | allthough the libc.so.6 thing is very strange, and allthough it works within OE I still suspect that there is a problem with the generated toolchain, not only with meta-toolchain |
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| 12:36.16 | Jin^eLD | any reason why __cxa_atexit is being disabled in the recipes for uclibc? |
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| 12:42.31 | Jin^eLD | doh, with meta-toolchain there is just no escape :) .dev is also broken |
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| 13:53.56 | ^Takut^ | hello |
| 13:54.26 | ^Takut^ | anyone have information about running Linux on nokia 9300 |
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| 15:12.59 | ^Takut^ | is it possible running linux on nokia 9300/9500 ? |
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| 16:04.43 | hrw | hi NineX |
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| 16:12.07 | woglinde | hi hrw |
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| 16:25.09 | hrw | hi woglinde |
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| 16:31.50 | cbrake | woglinde: thanks for autotools tips |
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| 16:37.04 | hrw | bye guys |
| 16:37.15 | Jin^eLD | l8r hrw |
| 16:37.21 | hrw | cbrake: thx for article |
| 16:38.54 | woglinde | cbrake did you test my uclibc patch? |
| 16:39.27 | cbrake | woglinde: not yet, hoping to get to that this afternoon if I can get a few other things cleared out of the way |
| 16:39.39 | woglinde | hm its outdaded now |
| 16:39.52 | woglinde | but should not be to compilcated to merge |
| 16:39.54 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 16:57.09 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r73fcb901... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): |
| 16:57.09 | CIA-22 | base.bbclass: Add setscene task, fixing the rebuild task funcionality with |
| 16:57.09 | CIA-22 | recent bitbake versions and improving interaction with packaged staging. |
| 16:57.09 | CIA-22 | WARNING: The result of this commit on existing builds is they will effectively |
| 16:57.09 | CIA-22 | rebuild from scratch. |
| 16:57.15 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8562d4dc... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Merge some minor fixes/optimisations/cleanups from Poky |
| 16:57.19 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r040c69c2... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Add checkuri and checkuriall tasks from Poky |
| 16:57.24 | CIA-22 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4286bc9e... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): packaged-staging.bbclass: Merge in fixes/improvements from Poky and use new setscene task |
| 16:57.46 | RP | hopes the above warning is plain |
| 16:57.53 | RP | I've also mailed the list |
| 16:57.58 | mickeyl | good |
| 16:58.02 | Jin^eLD | hey RP |
| 16:58.23 | RP | morning all :) |
| 17:02.46 | Crofton | sounds like a good excuse to wipe tmp :) |
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| 17:18.27 | Jin^eLD | RP: this sdk.bbclass change - would that work in .stable as well? |
| 17:18.43 | Jin^eLD | I wonder if I should try it |
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| 17:19.01 | Genesis | bye |
| 17:20.10 | pH5 | hm. why does portmap-6.0 install a world-writeable init script into /etc/init.d |
| 17:31.58 | pH5 | Laibsch: I'll look at the anthy-9100e issue after the rebuild-from-scratch |
| 17:32.08 | Laibsch | nice, thanks |
| 17:40.27 | dcordes | XorA|gone, ping |
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| 17:43.25 | jmichel | I'm currently programming for an an OE based distro and I need to run my application on a debugger |
| 17:43.54 | jmichel | I got gbd on my device but it seems no debug info is in my executable binary |
| 17:44.14 | Tartarus | Debug info is stripped and put into .debug dirs |
| 17:44.38 | Tartarus | Install it somewhere (the -dbg packages) and tell gdb solib-absolute-prefix is that |
| 17:44.40 | jmichel | could someone point me where to look? Is there something to do with the -dbg and -dev files that are produced when I build |
| 17:44.47 | Tartarus | or if you've got gdb 6.8, set sysroot that |
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| 17:49.10 | jmichel | Tartarus: Thx i'll try this |
| 17:55.25 | likewise | Tartarus: could you explain that 6.8 sysroot item for gdb? |
| 17:55.53 | likewise | Tartarus: because I think we can set it automatically for remote gdb sessions from the OE build host |
| 18:11.55 | Tartarus | likewise, khem would know better :) |
| 18:12.01 | Tartarus | there might be some automagic thing you can do |
| 18:12.26 | Tartarus | but i only ever use OE in an SDK-like env |
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| 18:17.44 | jmichel | Tartarus: when I set solib-absolute-prefix in gdb I think it tries to load symbols for all the shared libs but not for the main executable |
| 18:19.58 | Tartarus | Did you 'file' the executible? |
| 18:20.11 | Tartarus | do that then connect |
| 18:26.59 | jmichel | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 18:26.59 | jmichel | 0x402910d0 in ?? () |
| 18:27.43 | jmichel | Tartarus: it doesn't look like there is debug info... but now I can see that the symbols are loaded |
| 18:27.47 | Tartarus | backtrace and see where that's coming from? |
| 18:27.56 | Tartarus | and your app is built w/ -g right? :) |
| 18:28.12 | jmichel | after bt there is only "#0 0x402910d0 in ?? ()" |
| 18:28.24 | Tartarus | odd |
| 18:28.25 | Tartarus | arm? |
| 18:28.32 | jmichel | yes arm |
| 18:29.02 | jmichel | I am not sure about the -g though cause I used a configure script |
| 18:29.11 | Tartarus | built inside OE or out? |
| 18:29.16 | Tartarus | inside OE should have debug info |
| 18:29.23 | Tartarus | just a matter of getting all of the -dbg packages in |
| 18:30.33 | jmichel | Do you mean I shouldalso install the -dbg packages for the libraries that are used by my app |
| 18:31.05 | Tartarus | yes |
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| 18:46.23 | likewise | (well, that depends if jmichel is remote debugging, but I guess not) |
| 18:46.31 | likewise | hi zecke |
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| 18:48.42 | jmichel | likewise: I'm building on my AMD computer but I'm debugging on the target device |
| 18:49.44 | likewise | jmichel: if gdb runs on the target, then yes, you'ld need access to the debugging info (dgb packages) there |
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| 20:16.06 | likewise | What is the setup for a proper oe mirror? |
| 20:16.10 | likewise | mtn mirror, that is? |
| 20:23.39 | flo_lap | re |
| 20:32.52 | hrw | re |
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| 20:38.22 | flo_lap | hrw: wb |
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| 20:47.37 | Fique | Congratulations flo_lap |
| 20:48.12 | Fique | I know i'm two or so days late, but hey I just read through all the IRC logs |
| 20:49.42 | Crofton | anymore you just congratulate the channel, someone must have had a baby |
| 20:50.19 | pH5 | hrw: the portmap-6.0 recipe installs /etc/init.d/portmap with -m 0757 :/ |
| 20:50.56 | mwester | pH5: That must be a mistake! |
| 20:56.46 | flo_lap | Fique: thanks |
| 20:57.46 | hrw | pH5: then please fix it |
| 20:59.55 | hrw | pH5: sorry - I am fixing it now |
| 21:00.43 | pH5 | hrw: thanks. just wanted to ping you in case that typo is in poky, too. |
| 21:01.28 | hrw | fixed in both |
| 21:01.59 | hrw | one day I have to make 'merge day' again |
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| 21:09.46 | hrw | pH5: it looks like we both add x.org components - you to oe, I to poky |
| 21:12.33 | pH5 | yay, duplicate work. happens :) |
| 21:19.52 | hrw | ~curse ametyst |
| 21:19.53 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, ametyst ! |
| 21:19.56 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 21:20.11 | mickeyl | yo |
| 21:20.17 | hrw | mickeyl: can you check how much swap mtn on amethyst already took? |
| 21:20.52 | mickeyl | no swap |
| 21:21.04 | mickeyl | still main memory |
| 21:21.05 | mickeyl | why? |
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| 21:21.34 | hrw | few attempts to push one simple change - none finished |
| 21:22.23 | hrw | looks like this time it push |
| 21:22.34 | hrw | time to add cronjob for mtn pull |
| 21:25.27 | CIA-22 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r86dacb8c... 10/ (1 packages/portmap/portmap_6.0.bb): portmap: do not install initscript with world writable permissions |
| 21:25.38 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 21:25.44 | mickeyl | git server will be more reliable |
| 21:27.18 | Crofton | notes source.mvista.com/git has been up and down all day ... |
| 21:27.41 | hrw | Crofton: git.kernel.org has mirror ;) |
| 21:27.58 | jeremy_laine | mickeyl: I think I'll have a little celebration when we switch to git! |
| 21:28.45 | Crofton | We should wait a week before celebrating :) |
| 21:36.28 | paulproteus | I find libglade doesn't build for me for Angstom 2008.1 for device Magician: http://pastebin.com/m12f68e84 |
| 21:36.56 | paulproteus | Is the package just broken (and is the right place to ask such questions?)? Can someone else try building libglade and see if it does work? |
| 21:37.19 | paulproteus | (I'm trying to build an Angstrom 2008.1 openmoko-devel-image for the Magician device.) |
| 21:38.58 | steliosk | digs a deeper fortified trench that will hopefully withstand the SCM transition |
| 21:40.40 | steliosk | has anyone used gcc's Profile Directed Feeedback optimizations ? |
| 21:42.05 | dcordes | paulproteus, NOTE: package libglade-2.6.2: completed with revision d5c334bedd0c46402afcdd1d330191309bcb3d6e |
| 21:42.38 | paulproteus | dcordes, Hmm, so it does build for you. Mine is 2.6.2-r2; does that make any difference? |
| 21:45.27 | dcordes | paulproteus, try putting int your conf/local.conf a line "PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?= "2.6.2"" |
| 21:45.32 | paulproteus | Will do so. |
| 21:50.02 | paulproteus | dcordes, It told me, "NOTE: Running task 897 of 964 (ID: 3, /home/paulproteus/openembedded/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libglade/libglade_2.6.2.bb, do_unpack)" - but it seems to then print exactly the same thing. |
| 21:50.20 | paulproteus | This is what I added to local.conf: PREFERRED_VERSION_libglade ?= "2.6.2" |
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| 21:50.52 | dcordes | paulproteus, try an mtn pull && mtn update && bitbake -c clean libglade && bitbake libglade or so |
| 21:53.36 | paulproteus | dcordes, Okay, trying that, FWIW I've had this problem for the past two days or so. |
| 21:54.33 | RP | Jin|away: I don't see why it wouldn't work but it only helps a small subset of people |
| 21:56.32 | hrw | brb |
| 21:57.33 | dcordes | paulproteus, that's why you're updating your metadata now ;) |
| 21:57.46 | paulproteus | dcordes, I mean, I've updated my metadata before during these two days. |
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| 21:58.45 | Tartarus | hmm |
| 21:59.01 | Tartarus | should a bitbake installed with --root=/foo always not see stuff in a regular system install? |
| 21:59.25 | Tartarus | ./bitbake/usr/bin/bitbake --version |
| 21:59.25 | Tartarus | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.8.8, bitbake version 1.8.10 |
| 21:59.30 | Tartarus | from bitbake 1.8.10 tarball |
| 22:00.20 | RP | That sounds like there is bits of 1.8.8 hanging around which is a really bad idea |
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| 22:01.43 | dcordes | paulproteus, any luck? |
| 22:02.23 | paulproteus | Still pulling, haven't gotten even to the update phase yet. |
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| 22:05.08 | Tartarus | RP, the system install is 1.8.8 |
| 22:05.23 | Tartarus | I want a newer version locally |
| 22:06.27 | RP | Tartarus: I'd not recommend system installs but if you work out what the problem is I'll take patches :/ |
| 22:06.39 | Tartarus | RP, heh, k |
| 22:06.43 | RP | Tartarus: You probably need to set PYTHONPATH properly |
| 22:06.55 | Tartarus | RP, I was kinda hoping it might trigger an oh-yeah, svn doesn't have that problem |
| 22:07.24 | RP | It triggers a "don't do system installs" reaction ;-) |
| 22:07.29 | Tartarus | heh |
| 22:07.42 | Tartarus | actually, I don't have this svn one installed anywhere really, just running the compiled stuff |
| 22:08.17 | Tartarus | the not installed version is correct |
| 22:08.23 | Tartarus | only happens once actually installed |
| 22:08.39 | Tartarus | so something isn't getting fiddled right for the install path |
| 22:08.45 | paulproteus | Um, the pull seems to have hung. |
| 22:10.51 | RP | Lets hope I don't find who out is adding these custom do_configures all the time as a shortcut for making the standard autoreconf work... |
| 22:11.24 | woglinde | rp *g* |
| 22:14.00 | paulproteus | dcordes, pulled and updated; doing clean and then rebuild now. |
| 22:15.08 | likewise | RP: does the binutils-avr32.inc fall into that category? |
| 22:15.44 | steliosk | likewise : probably define that category ;) |
| 22:16.21 | likewise | RP: the category of ppl adding all the custom do_configures that should have been autoreconfs |
| 22:16.30 | Tartarus | RP, only kinda related, can you think of any bugs in 1.8.8 that called for bitbake to actually be installed system wide? Or if not a bitbake bug, an OE bug / misconfiguration? |
| 22:16.56 | RP | likewise: That one isn't so bad |
| 22:17.07 | likewise | well it is, but for other reasons I suppose. |
| 22:17.17 | likewise | steliosk: I could reproduce your bdf problem on 64-bit gentoo... |
| 22:17.20 | RP | icu-3.6.inc is the one that could tip my sanity over the edge |
| 22:17.22 | likewise | bfd |
| 22:17.38 | likewise | well, I'm off to zzz now. |
| 22:17.43 | likewise | nite all |
| 22:17.46 | steliosk | it also failed on a 32bit debian host |
| 22:17.55 | RP | likewise: Its bad in different ways. I'd probably patch the other directories out of configure.ac instead for AVR |
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| 22:20.11 | paulproteus | Hallo exco. |
| 22:20.18 | exco | Hi paulproteus |
| 22:20.41 | exco | paulproteus: ist also auch aus de... wie der halbe htc-linux-channel? |
| 22:20.43 | RP | Tartarus: I've never used bitbake system wide, ever |
| 22:20.58 | paulproteus | exco, I don't speak German. |
| 22:21.06 | paulproteus | Nor even read, I'm afraid. |
| 22:21.32 | RP | Tartarus: That means such bugs are unlikely ;-) |
| 22:22.23 | exco | my mistake... (hallo) |
| 22:22.26 | Tartarus | Well shit :) |
| 22:22.28 | paulproteus | Ah. (-: |
| 22:23.52 | exco | well... where to start |
| 22:24.21 | paulproteus | exco, Where to start as far as OE? |
| 22:24.27 | exco | I'd say the recommended image is goxbox OE |
| 22:24.36 | paulproteus | exco, Let's have *this* conversation on #htc-linux. |
| 22:24.48 | paulproteus | Let's talk about how to get OE set up for you in #oe sometime. |
| 22:27.54 | mickeyl | Tartarus: please submit a bug to the bugtracker. system-wide installs should work |
| 22:28.05 | mickeyl | i can take a look then |
| 22:30.32 | exco | as long as it doesn't work for you... I think I don't stand a chance (cause I'd just google the errors without actually knowing what I'm doing) |
| 22:30.56 | Tartarus | mickeyl, k, will do |
| 22:35.21 | Tartarus | filed, 4215 |
| 22:36.34 | hrw | bye all |
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| 22:36.57 | RP | 'night hrw |
| 22:37.37 | Crofton | gn hrw see you in a few hours :) |
| 22:37.44 | hrw | Crofton: yep |
| 22:39.38 | hrw | RP: icu-native failed ;( |
| 22:40.02 | RP | hrw: where? locally? |
| 22:40.21 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: Can you pull successfully now? |
| 22:40.25 | RP | hrw|gone: I pushed a fix and hacked the autobuilder... |
| 22:40.26 | Laibsch | What mtn version? |
| 22:40.27 | dcordes | paulproteus, ping me when you have a working qvga gui with your moko image ;) |
| 22:42.04 | dcordes | XorA|gone, kaiser vogue and friends kernel development has a home now: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm |
| 22:42.14 | paulproteus | dcordes, (-: |
| 22:42.20 | paulproteus | dcordes, I will ping you even if I get errors on the way there! |
| 22:42.39 | dcordes | lol that's ok |
| 22:43.49 | dcordes | that reminds me I wanted to get X11 in angstrom x11-image starting |
| 22:44.08 | paulproteus | That sounds pretty useful. |
| 22:44.48 | dcordes | haha |
| 22:45.02 | dcordes | that reminds me I wanted to get X11 in angstrom x11-image starting on kaiser |
| 22:46.46 | dcordes | cleans tmp and does a fresh angstrom-2008.1 openmoko-image build for arm11 |
| 22:50.21 | RP | hmm, lame now breaks, again, a custom do_configure :(# |
| 22:53.34 | hrw|gone | Laibsch: I have 'mtn pull' started at 23:26 (01:01 now) which not yet end |
| 22:53.38 | hrw|gone | -> bed now |
| 22:55.10 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: I am afraid, it looks like hand-crafted mess has reached amethyst |
| 22:55.26 | Laibsch | so, sooner or later, it will be bye-bye amethyst as well |
| 22:55.53 | RP | Laibsch: ? :/ |
| 22:56.02 | flo_lap | Laibsch: ? |
| 22:57.30 | Laibsch | IMHO, http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62 is responsible for the unmaintainable state that ltg has to struggle with |
| 22:58.10 | Laibsch | When I looked at top@amethyst after hrw reported problems, I realized, the same thing has already happened to amethyst now |
| 22:58.25 | Laibsch | So, it is only a matter of time before we see frequent breakages on amethyst |
| 22:58.28 | RP | Laibsch: With which packages? |
| 22:58.38 | Laibsch | The one I know about now is mtn |
| 22:59.00 | RP | suspects he's guilty of some of this but I will save that disucssion for another time/place |
| 22:59.55 | Laibsch | Well, I admit, I had to install bugzilla from tar |
| 23:00.14 | Laibsch | greg had used 3.x and that was the format the database was in |
| 23:00.19 | RP | Laibsch: For gitosis I actually built packaged on amethyst, then installed them |
| 23:00.28 | Laibsch | So, there was really nothing I could do but do a tarball install |
| 23:00.37 | RP | Laibsch: cgit is going to need to be a tarball too :/ |
| 23:00.40 | Laibsch | Yes, I usually do that, too |
| 23:01.01 | Laibsch | Hm, looks like trouble looming |
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| 23:01.54 | Laibsch | Just my 2c but ubuntu might have been a better choice when thinking about up2date packages with security fixes |
| 23:02.01 | Laibsch | With debian, you either get one or the other |
| 23:02.03 | RP | Laibsch: lets try and head it off then. I did make extensive notes and will share them in due course, when I get a minute to look at git again... |
| 23:02.13 | Laibsch | RP: good |
| 23:02.24 | Laibsch | What I did is documented in /root |
| 23:02.28 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: Is there an admin list for amethyst? If not can we create one (or e mail alias) |
| 23:02.51 | Laibsch | particularly /root/unpackaged.txt |
| 23:03.12 | Laibsch | RP: I guess /root/.ssh/authorized_keys is a possibility |
| 23:03.28 | Laibsch | most people are discernible |
| 23:04.13 | Laibsch | Unfortunately, I am afraid that documenting alone won't do it |
| 23:04.32 | RP | Laibsch: No, but even communicating with the people using the machine would help |
| 23:04.49 | Laibsch | Why do we have one or more tarball installs of mtn when monotone itself publishes packages? |
| 23:05.14 | Laibsch | Why don't we have a policy about installing non-debian stuff? IOW, unpackaged stuff? |
| 23:05.27 | Laibsch | I guess I understand that we cannot always rely on packages |
| 23:05.31 | RP | I've just touched git stuff |
| 23:06.14 | Laibsch | But strongly discouraging it and having a clear policy to follow when installing tarballs would go a long way, I assume. |
| 23:06.30 | Laibsch | RP: nobody did anything wrong |
| 23:06.39 | Laibsch | The overall outcome can still be disaster |
| 23:06.59 | Laibsch | That is why in a company you have management (if not in a Dilbert world ;-)) |
| 23:07.02 | RP | Laibsch: right, so create a mail alias and lets get some communication system setup |
| 23:07.25 | Laibsch | My understanding was that it's mickey's machine |
| 23:07.31 | Laibsch | So, I was hoping for word from him |
| 23:07.32 | RP | Laibsch: It is |
| 23:07.44 | Laibsch | He was quiet on it, so I suspected the worst |
| 23:07.54 | RP | I think he's just tired ;-) |
| 23:08.20 | Laibsch | I guess |
| 23:08.30 | Laibsch | But I've raised the issue at least two times now |
| 23:08.46 | Laibsch | I just try to avoid this going into the wrong direction at full speed |
| 23:08.54 | Laibsch | which is where I see it going now |
| 23:09.19 | RP | There is a lot of pressure to get things working by whatever means are necessary |
| 23:09.40 | Laibsch | yes, but giving in to those pressures brings disaster long-term |
| 23:09.41 | RP | There is also a lot of sense in taking a step back and setting things up properly if we can |
| 23:09.44 | Laibsch | Again, management |
| 23:10.03 | RP | common sense to me... |
| 23:10.13 | Laibsch | I guess we all agree |
| 23:10.25 | Crofton | just use different words |
| 23:10.43 | Laibsch | Needs to be "formally" agreed upon, communicated and enacted |
| 23:11.08 | Laibsch | I think *now* is the time to set things going right |
| 23:11.35 | RP | This is why I'm not rushing the git stuff... |
| 23:11.51 | Laibsch | hm, testing is important |
| 23:12.03 | Laibsch | and wouldn't have to be on amethyst |
| 23:12.18 | Laibsch | So, I sincerely hope that is not holding it back. |
| 23:12.33 | Laibsch | No packages in debian? |
| 23:12.43 | RP | Laibsch: The holdup is purely my time which is frustarting me :( |
| 23:13.50 | Laibsch | well, you said you resorted to unpackaged stuff |
| 23:14.07 | Laibsch | git stuff seems to be available for debian stable |
| 23:14.15 | Laibsch | is git novice |
| 23:14.32 | RP | Laibsch: cgit isn't, gitosis isn't, git is 1.4, we need 1.5 but can get it from backports |
| 23:15.13 | RP | I have gitosis packaged at least, cgit isn't too invasive to install manually since its just a cgi script and config file |
| 23:15.15 | Laibsch | recompile http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gitosis |
| 23:15.48 | RP | I'm not sure that existed when I started this ;-) |
| 23:15.49 | Laibsch | But, once you start backporting tons, that is where my debian/ubuntu and stable/testing argument comes into play |
| 23:15.54 | Laibsch | Maybe not |
| 23:16.01 | Laibsch | Just showing the options we have now |
| 23:16.26 | Crofton | is beginning to uderstand the attraction of virtualization |
| 23:16.31 | Laibsch | We should also move stuff that originally was not available as a package under aptitude's control |
| 23:16.32 | RP | You consider needs on a case by case basis. Using git 1.4 would be totally insane |
| 23:16.54 | RP | gitosis is installed as a package so that shouldn't be difficult |
| 23:17.13 | RP | I don't think I've installed anything without packaging yet,.. |
| 23:22.36 | RP | 'night all |
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| 23:53.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 917 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by <Laibsch> |
| 23:53.06 | cdbot2 | * * build fails for libsoundgen if LANG is not english |
| 23:53.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=917 |
| 23:53.16 | ^Takut^ | hello |
| 23:53.45 | ^Takut^ | is it possible to run linux on nokia communicator ? |
| 23:56.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 959 has been RESOLVED (LATER) by <Laibsch> |
| 23:56.07 | cdbot2 | * * Centericq is broken? |
| 23:56.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=959 |
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