IRC log for #oe on 20080312

00:00.14RPjack_c: Yes, but that is one really large file which would corrupt if you made a change to it during the transfer
00:00.35RPrwhitby: A pull is a push viewed from the other direction
00:01.12RPrwhitby: In git its the same code just with the endpoints swapped
00:02.21flo_lapgood night
00:02.24rwhitby(unlike monotone, which has multiple heads to handle an automatic distrbuted conflicting commit)
00:02.44RP'night florian
00:03.41RPrwhitby: git doesn't like multiple heads and its not a state a central repository would get into
00:03.41rwhitbyso I don't see how we can do an automatic distributed multiple git servers (where there is *no* parent-child relationship) without having a human needing to do stuff on the server.
00:03.49RPrwhitby: The two mirrors would just go out of sync until either an automerger merged it or someone did it manually
00:04.04mwester-laptopJust like now.
00:04.09RPrwhitby: Its the same as our current automerger script
00:04.29RPrwhitby: Some process tried the merge and if its simple, commits it reducing to one head
00:04.29rwhitbyRP: yes, but to resolve you don't need to log into the server
00:04.53RPYou don't have to in this case either?
00:05.14RPI could pull OE's head, pull the nslu2's, merge and push
00:05.42rwhitbyso if you have a new commit on OE, and I have a new commit on nslu2, and it is a real content conflict, how do you resolve this without needing to push to both?
00:05.44RPwhichever server I didn't push to would then just be able to fast forward merge
00:06.03rwhitbyok, that works.
00:06.03RPrwhitby: I'd merge to one server, the other would take the merge
00:06.18rwhitbyobjection withdrawn :-)
00:06.42RP:)
00:10.59antRP: this is interesting link http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/  particullary #3 Cloning around
00:17.43RP'night all
00:19.37rwhitbynight RP
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00:22.22CIA-3803pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r38f9432c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
00:22.22CIA-38linux-handhelds-2.6: Use official external interface for initramfs addition.
00:22.22CIA-38* I.e., CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE. Instead of neat, but still hack of dropping
00:22.22CIA-38initramfs where kernel Makefile expects it - this was reported to not work
00:22.22CIA-38under some unknown circumstances.
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02:10.18guigouzI'm building up openembedded for the first time, and the docs say to use the development version. is it ok ?
02:16.28wicknixjust follow what the wiki says and you should have problems.
02:16.33wicknixshoundnt*
02:16.39wicknixshouldnt*
02:16.45wicknixhttp://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted
02:17.14guigouzthanks. my only doubt was that this doc points to the dev version
02:17.33guigouz"you selected the org.openembedded.dev development branch"
02:17.44wicknixahh, yeah thats fine
02:18.11guigouzok, let's see what happens :) thanks again
02:18.29wicknixi would think. ive always just followed the wiki and its always worked
02:20.01guigouzi need to build a tiny root with openvpn
02:23.03wicknixshouldnt be hard to do
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04:45.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4044 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
04:45.06cdbot2* * wlan-ng-modules-0.2.1-pre26-autobuild
04:45.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4044
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07:05.06cdbot2* * libsdl-mixer-1.2.6-autobuild
07:05.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4045
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07:37.31rob_w|laptopis Geoffery here ?
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07:38.22trickieas i left the building
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07:53.35Khemzecke: hello
07:53.56zeckehey
07:54.20Khemzecke: I am reading your email and did not understand it
07:54.29Khemmay be its past midnight here may be
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07:54.40zeckeKhem: sed -i s,/usr/include,${STAGING_INCDIR}, ?
07:54.56Khemzecke: yeah It seems to be working as expected
07:55.00zeckeKhem: sed -i s,/usr/include,/foo/build/bla/tmp/staging/arm-foo/usr/include,
07:55.13zeckeKhem: if you have -I/foo/build/bla/tmp/staging/arm-foo/usr/include in your INCLUDES (you do)
07:55.33zeckeKhem: you will end up with -I/foo/build/bla/tmp/staging/arm-foo/foo/build/bla/tmp/staging/arm-foo/usr/include
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07:57.07Khemzecke: yes got it *
07:57.28Khemhmm so the intent is to replace only /usr/include/
07:57.38Khemand not /x/y/usr/include right
07:58.17zeckeKhem: So instead of finding files, you don't.
07:58.31Khemzecke: sed -i s.-I/usr/include,-I${STAGING_INCDIR}
07:58.31zeckeKhem: you want to -I/usr/include so ${STAGING_INCDIR} is not matched...
07:58.58Khemsed -i s.:/usr/include,:${STAGING_INCDIR}
07:59.05zecke*verb* *missing* *too expensive*
07:59.33zeckeI think the issue is pretty obvious, so is the solution (actually the solution is to patch the Makefile.am's)
07:59.35Khemzecke: I think those two seds have to repace it
07:59.53KhemI would not patch the makefiles.am
08:00.03Khemrather edit the Makefiles like we do
08:00.37zeckeKhem: /bla/tmp/staging/arm-linux/usr/include => /bla/tmp/staguing/arm-linux/bla/tmp/staging/arm-linux/usr/include  is bad, the sed's needs to be fixed.
08:01.03Khemyeh
08:01.46zeckeR.I.P. QtopiaCore :)
08:04.06Khemzecke: would these two do it sed -i s,:/usr/include,:${STAGING_INCDIR} and sed -i s,-I/usr/include,-I${STAGING_INCDIR}
08:04.27Khemzecke: are you in OZ down under
08:05.16zeckethe first sed is the issue the 2nd is the fix, but I don't follow you
08:05.25zeckeI'm in taipei
08:05.40Khemzecke: ah openmoke
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08:06.34Khemzecke: the include can exist in two forms a/b:/usr/include:/c/d if it is coming from env varriable or -I/usr/include -I/x/y/z if used directly on commandline
08:06.49Khemzecke: so both have to be taken care of
08:07.13schurigKhem: zecke = Holger, but schurig = Holger, too :-)
08:07.46Khemschurig:  guten morgen
08:08.01schurigKhem: Moin moin !
08:08.48schurigKhem: koen and psokolovsky write, erm, "interesting" :-)
08:09.35Khembut not early in morning :)
08:10.00KhemI must sleep now
08:10.12Khemgood night all
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08:14.48zeckeKhem: get some sleep and then talk to me...
08:15.16zeckeKhem: /something/stupid/usr/include == no problem
08:15.22zeckeKhem: /usr/include == big problem
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08:23.17pb__hi zecke
08:23.23zeckeho
08:24.58Khemmake[1]: *** No rule to make target `/local/sandbox/openembedded/build/tmp-qemuarm/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libc.so.6'.  Stop.
08:25.08zeckeKhem: make sleep
08:25.11CIA-4003xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r4da6222c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
08:25.11CIA-40espeak: upgrade to 1.35, clean up
08:25.11CIA-40* replace tab by white space
08:25.11CIA-40* replace hard coded ${datadir}
08:25.15CIA-4003xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r9db805de... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): speech-dispatcher: upgrade to 0.6.6
08:25.53Khemzecke: yeah suspend to ram now cu
08:29.58zecke~stabs Qtopia
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08:58.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4046 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
08:58.07cdbot2* * gtk+-2.12.3-autobuild
08:58.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4046
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09:00.06cdbot2* * exhibit-0.0.0+cvs20071206-autobuild
09:00.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4047
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09:12.54RPzecke: Changing every reference in a Makefile.am is probably not a wise thing to so since installing to DESTDIR/includedir is a sane thing to do
09:13.16RPzecke: I understand the problem though and agree we need to fix it
09:22.45zeckeRP: well, I was thinking of changing INCLUDES to not include $(includedir) instead of removing it by sed..
09:24.38CIA-4003koen 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r1494d3b9... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt classes/seppuku.bbclass): seppuku bbclass: backport format change
09:27.12RPzecke: Is that a standard variable?
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09:30.03zeckeIIRC yes, but I thought of manually fixing the Makefile.am when it is broken :)
09:30.09zeckewhat I beleive these sed's are about
09:30.46zeckee.g. check illume in the OM repo, it put $(includedir) into INCLUDES, instead of sed I fixed the Makefile.am
09:31.41RPzecke: Right, that sounds like the right thing to do. I usually prefer patching to sed
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10:27.24floriangood morning
10:27.50mickey|openexpoyo florian
10:28.42Genesishello mickey|openexpo
10:28.50Genesishi florian
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11:29.07cdbot2* * libeventdb-0.90-autobuild
11:29.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4048
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12:09.52hrwmorning
12:10.09mwester-laptopgood morning Mr. hrw
12:10.36hrwmwester-laptop: do you know what is better then top posting?
12:10.56Croftonwhat?
12:11.06hrwusing delete key
12:11.11Croftonheh
12:11.41hrwI have too much mails with 'me too' like replies after 2-5 pages of replies
12:12.29Croftonat least you aren't getting emails cross posted to half a dozen lists (this is happening on the caving related lists I am on)
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12:15.38Croftonmickeyl, ping
12:15.50schurigCrofton: try mickey|openexpo
12:16.11Croftonthanks, not on atm though :(
12:17.28lisppaste7zecke pasted "bad..." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/57238
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12:32.31RPzecke: That does look bad :/
12:33.04zeckeRP: yeah, but e issues, XorA will have fun sorting them out :}
12:33.14B_LizzardHmmm
12:33.32B_LizzardRP, you asked me:
12:33.34B_LizzardWhich recipe was that in? gcc-cross-initial?
12:33.35B_LizzardYeah
12:34.05RPB_Lizzard: Thats a really strange error for gcc-cross-initial to have :/
12:34.08B_LizzardHmmm
12:34.22B_LizzardIt's strange that it uses my native staging dir...
12:34.35B_LizzardShall I just bypass it?
12:34.44RPB_Lizzard: Its a cross compiler so it will use both native and target
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12:34.52B_LizzardYeah
12:34.54B_LizzardHmmm
12:34.55RPB_Lizzard: Which DISTRO/MACHINE is this?
12:35.09B_LizzardDistro is jlime-donkey, machine is jornada6xx
12:35.20B_LizzardI don't think it has been updated upstream
12:35.39B_LizzardAs I don't have commit permission, and kristoffer has left OE for me.
12:35.57B_LizzardI will commit once everything stabilizes
12:36.19B_LizzardUm, I mean, I don't think it has been updated much
12:36.19RPB_Lizzard: Let me see if the machine works with angstrom
12:36.24B_LizzardOK
12:37.02B_LizzardThanks a lot, dude.
12:39.14zeckeokay etk is not buildable in OE
12:39.37RPzecke: Due to recent changes?
12:39.50zeckeRP: don't worry
12:40.11rwhitbyRP: does poky rootfs fit on c700 yet or is it still too big?
12:41.05RPrwhitby: 23.8MB, will that fit?
12:41.25rwhitbydunno.  last time I tried poky it didn't.
12:41.46RPrwhitby: We did try and make it fit
12:47.34RPB_Lizzard: I see the same error
12:47.41B_LizzardHmmm
12:48.04B_LizzardI'm guessing it's a bug in the classes
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12:50.30mwester-laptophrw: perhaps you can clarify your comment?  Do you wish I should not have replied at all, or do you wish that I should have deleted the text?
12:50.59CIA-3903freyther 07org.oe.dev * r0bce6a51... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
12:50.59CIA-39directfb: This magic is not needed for directfb
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12:52.15rwhitbycomplaining about top posting is so last millenium
12:54.32rwhitbyRP: testing on mithro's old C700 now ...
12:54.38_diego__i was born in the previous millenium, so toppost is bad :P
12:54.56mithrorwhitby: cool to see it being used
12:55.16rwhitbymithro: "used" is too strong a word ...
12:55.24mithrorwhitby: he he okay
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12:55.58rwhitbyI liked the beaver, so had to load poky onto something, and both my GTA01's are dead
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12:56.45mithrorwhitby: you still want that NSLU2?
12:57.43rwhitbymithro: I don't *need* it, so if someone else wants it then take that offer.
12:58.03mithrorwhitby: not that I know off
12:58.26rwhitbyRP: I'm disappointed that the beaver doesn't make an appearance on the splash screen ...
12:59.18RPrwhitby: We did think about it but the release was running too far behind schedule and the idea was proposoned :(
12:59.41rwhitbyRP: seems to be some issue with fonts on the c700
12:59.59RPrwhitby: Did it run out of space while booting?
13:00.03rwhitbyall the words come out as little empty boxes
13:00.08rwhitbyno, it seemed to boot fine
13:00.20RPCan you run df and see if there is any space left?
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13:01.23rwhitbyRP: um, no - I can't get a shell on it when all the icons have boxes for names
13:01.41rwhitby(and I don't have a box near to usb network to it)
13:01.43RPrwhitby: You should be able to tell the shell icon?
13:02.06RPrwhitby: Ctrl+Alt+backspace to kill X
13:02.28RPCtrl and Alt are the two japanese keys to the right of Fn
13:03.08rwhitbyRP: / is 99%
13:03.33RPrwhitby: My guess is the postinstalls failed due to space issues which would break fonts
13:03.46rwhitbyhmm - jffs2 crc failures reported in dmesg ..
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13:04.03rwhitbyRP: ignore this report - looks like a hardware issue
13:04.17RPrwhitby: :(
13:04.33RPjffs2 should deal with bad blocks
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13:07.42hrwmwester-laptop: deleted ;)
13:08.16rwhitbyRP: Bad eraseblocks :-(
13:09.09RPrwhitby: :(
13:09.48RPrwhitby: Perhaps the home partition might be better? You'd have to customise a kernel commandline though
13:10.47rwhitbyRP: that's way past the point of caring ;-)
13:11.03RPrwhitby: I thought it might be...
13:11.20RPYou could try wiping a few files and rerunning the postinstalls
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13:13.54rwhitbyRP: I think I'll just give it back to mithro and taunt him for giving me broken toys for free ...
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13:14.35RPrwhitby: Solder a new flash chip in ;-)
13:14.44mithrorwhitby: it worked for me fine
13:14.52mithromust have been something you did to it :)
13:15.04rwhitbymithro: undoubtably
13:15.13mithroanyway I should be in bed
13:15.18rwhitbyloading poky probably did it - I say we both blame RP
13:15.59rwhitby"when in doubt, blame the beaver"
13:17.35zeckelol
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13:19.11ant|workgm
13:20.15ant|workrwhitby: don't wory...Bad eraseblock 32 at 0x00080000 and Bad eraseblock 1440 at 0x01680000 on c860
13:20.36rwhitbyant|work: mine is a eraseblocks 0 and 8
13:21.07ant|workrwhitby: you could try to flash u-boot then ....
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13:21.39RPTwo eraseblocks shouldn't be a problem, I suspect disk space is just too marginal :/
13:21.57ant|workRP: eraseblock 0 is scary...
13:22.21RPant|work: not really
13:22.40ant|workRP: but you're right asserting the flash tools would take care of bad sectors
13:23.45ant|workRP: BTW I tried shortly Poky 3.1 and had no font problems
13:24.20ant|workRP: biggest problem: I did not find any tool to change date/time...
13:24.26ant|work(apart console)
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13:25.31hrwant|work: because you have 53M rootfs
13:25.53ant|workhrw: yeah, of course...
13:26.07hrwant|work: rwhitby c700 has 21-23M which Poky fits but left too low space to be usage
13:29.15hrwand thats whole magic
13:30.20RPzecke: B_Lizzard's error highlights an interesting case with the cross compile badness patch. fix-headers in gcc can get called and will insert usr/include into the search path regardless of cross compiling or not :(
13:31.10B_Lizzard:(
13:31.44RPB_Lizzard: You could try disabling the cross compile badness patch
13:31.54B_LizzardHmmm
13:32.53B_LizzardI can just either change the -I dirs in the makefiles manually with sed, or just move the target staging include dir into the native one
13:33.08RPB_Lizzard: That isn't the problem
13:33.10B_LizzardI can fix the problem, but the fix is not elegant
13:33.24B_LizzardNeither universal
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13:33.57B_LizzardI must've made him mad or something.
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13:33.59B_LizzardOh :)
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13:36.56RPB_Lizzard: I made it work by removing the register_include_chains() call in gcc/fix-headers.c
13:37.15B_LizzardHmmm
13:37.26B_LizzardIn gcc-cross-initial?
13:37.26RPB_Lizzard: and I had to hack usr/include/bits/xopen_lim.h in staging to remove an include :/
13:37.30RPB_Lizzard: yes
13:37.57B_LizzardHmmm, but why doesn't it happen with arm-linux?
13:38.21RPI don't know, maybe the arm builds are more tested?
13:38.29RPthe arm builds don't need glibc-initial
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13:40.47B_LizzardHmmm
13:41.10B_LizzardI don't need to do source hacking, though
13:41.24B_Lizzardgcc-cross-initial builds with the sh3-linux includes
13:43.10RPB_Lizzard: It builds with the kernel headers and those installed glibc-initial
13:43.23B_LizzardYeah.
13:45.33B_LizzardThe compiler, tmp/work/sh3-linux/gcc-cross-initial-4.2.2-r6/gcc-4.2.2/build.i686-linux.sh3-linux/./gcc/xgcc which is used when compilation fails is a cross-compiler, so using the native staging dir is obviously an error
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13:54.17zeckeRP: aeh missed the error
13:54.44B_LizzardAdding -I/usr/local/oe/tmp/staging/sh3-linux/usr/include in FLAGS_FOR_TARGET in tmp/work/sh3-linux/gcc-cross-initial-4.2.2-r6/gcc-4.2.2/build.i686-linux.sh3-linux worked.
14:00.02B_Lizzard...but that's not quite the solution you were looking for.
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14:16.25hrwant|work: rather "man howtogetmoremachinesforproject"
14:17.34ant|workhrw: I see
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14:19.46ant|workhrw: you sent me one patch for c7x0: tristate "Support for NAND Flash on Sharp SL Series (C7xx + others)"
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14:20.21ant|workthis looks similar to a patch applied to c3xx0...
14:20.31ant|workbut not to the c7x0
14:21.00ant|workquestion: needed or not for c7x0 ?
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14:21.39hrwwhich one was it?
14:21.57hrwsharp-sl-nand-needs-mtd-partitions.patch?
14:21.58ant|workyours: sharp-sl-nand-needs-mtd-partitions.patch
14:22.28ant|workin oe: ...sorry...viewmtn is down...smthg like sharpsl-mtd.patch
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14:22.40hrwthis is cleanup patch witch was sent to RP
14:23.20ant|workhrw: ...but looking in linux-rp-2.6.2x is not applied to c7x0
14:23.32ant|workbasically no _c7x0 at all in the recipe
14:24.17ant|workRP: I know you will find the time for some easter-cleanings
14:24.42RPB_Lizzard: Not the ideal solution but if it works... :/
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14:34.40RPB_Lizzard: It didn't work for my build here...
14:34.47B_LizzardHmmm
14:34.57B_LizzardNot in folder "gcc"
14:35.02B_LizzardThe previous one
14:36.40B_Lizzardbuild.i686-linux.sh3-linux
14:37.06B_LizzardMake sure that staging/sh3-linux/usr/include is actually included
14:37.19B_LizzardDoesn't quite matter, though.
14:37.39B_LizzardI'm just saying this because everything worked fine before the ABI change
14:38.08B_LizzardMaybe things changed in gcc-cross-initial or some other package as part of the ABI update
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14:56.32B_Lizzardgcc-cross also came up with a CROSS COMPILE Badness error, due to NATIVE_SYSTEM_HEADER_DIR being /usr/include
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14:56.44B_LizzardChanged that to my native staging dir and it worked.
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15:11.00ScaredyCathrm....
15:24.02Khemanyone seeing glibc-intermediate buildissues on latest .dev
15:24.14RPKhem: What kind of issue?
15:24.29KhemRP: I am having this problem
15:25.15ant|workhrw: you were looking for a sweet/easy very old bug to cherry-pick?
15:25.34xjqianKhem: what problem?
15:25.51Khemake[1]: *** No rule to make target `/local/sandbox/openembedded/build/tmp-qemuarm/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libc.so.6'.  Stop.
15:26.17RPKhem: I've not seen that one...
15:26.28xjqianKhem: never
15:26.37KhemRP: its actually eglibc, it was working ok
15:26.53KhemRP: were there any fixes needed for sysroot thinfg in glibc
15:27.16RPKhem: There were a few tweaks in the recipes but I think I applied them to eglibc as well
15:27.20KhemI can propagate those to eglibc and this will fix it
15:27.29KhemRP: hmm
15:28.47KhemRP: Can you give me a pointer what tweak
15:29.25RPKhem: That error looks wrong, it should be linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so.6
15:29.41RPKhem: Which step is this in, install or staging?
15:30.05Khemstaging I think in do_populate
15:30.34RPI know what the problem is, I broke it ;-)
15:31.17KhemRP: sysroot is getting prepended where it is not needed
15:32.26RPKhem: http://pastebin.ca/939753
15:33.15KhemRP: there you go
15:33.20Khemlet me try the hotfx
15:34.22KhemRP: actually there is a another place where same change is needed
15:34.41KhemRP: line 92
15:35.20RPKhem: agreed
15:35.56RPKhem: and some bits later in the function
15:36.13KhemRP: install ?
15:37.16KhemRP: I think all occurances of STGING_LIBDIR should be address in the recipe I think right ?
15:37.36RPKhem: Not all. http://pastebin.ca/939760
15:38.01KhemRP: right thats what I thought
15:38.18Khemhmmm there are other places too k
15:38.20Khemthx
15:39.12RPI've changed the .a line too
15:39.18RPLet me know if it works and I'll push it
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15:40.19KhemRP: yes I think its working
15:47.35oxohmm, the webserver seems to be on strike
15:52.18hvontres|workangstrom@serenity:~$ uptime 16:53:58 up 20 days, 17:17,  1 user,  load average: 9.70, 13.98, 19.51
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16:28.26mrdatahi all
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16:36.54CosmicPenguinis there any reason to expect that --f wouldn't work in bitbake 1.8.11?
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16:38.56CosmicPenguinohh - it doesn't work in conjunction with -b
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16:54.59woglinde_hi mr_nice
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16:55.35mr_nicewoglinde_: hi, you are a bb master right?
16:55.47woglinde_a little bit
16:58.26mr_nicewoglinde_: can you help me a bit with task-base.bb
16:59.14hvontres|workRP: what whould be the preferred way of turning this http://repo.or.cz/w/orinoco.git into a patch set for oe? I'd like to experiment with these patches on my symblol card
16:59.54mr_nicewoglinde_: I try to only RRECOMMAND kernle-module-aes if kernle version is <= 2.6.23
17:00.17mr_nicewoglinde_: here is my output http://pastebin.ca/939849
17:00.25RPhvontres|work: Use some git magic to extract a patch and apply it to the kernel in OE
17:01.09mr_nicewoglinde_: thesing hinted me to base_version_less_or_equal but I don't know if I have to include something?
17:01.12woglinde_mr_nice hm I think rp can you help better on this
17:01.53RPmr_nice: Its defined in base.bbclass so its already included
17:02.47mr_niceRP: hm, can you have a quick look at this? http://pastebin.ca/939849 maybe I have made some typos?
17:03.42hvontres|workRP: ok. Maybe a project for this weekend :)
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17:05.24RPmr_nice: The surrounding '  chars look wrong
17:05.47RP(outside the ${@base...})
17:06.47mr_niceRP: i'll try it thx
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17:09.11mr_niceRP: it did not help. http://pastebin.ca/939870
17:10.52RPmr_nice: Which versio  of OE is this? Does base_version_less_or_equal exist in base,bbclass?
17:11.27woglinde_mr_nice arent you using stable?
17:11.37mr_nicewoglinde_: yes
17:12.02mr_niceRP: I try to look at base,bbclass
17:13.01hvontres|workflorian: any idea what's up with serenity today?
17:14.36mr_niceRP: ok, it seems that base_version_less_or_equal is not at stable tree many thanks :). I will write a mail to angstrom-dev
17:17.16hrwbye
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17:41.10florianhvontres|work: quite high load... many apache and postgres processes. maybe some wiki or cms badness going on.
17:41.21floriani'll try to check later
17:41.37hvontres|workflorian: have a good evening
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17:51.20treitmayrxjqian: Hi! I saw you updated the espeak recipe
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18:02.26hvontres|workxjqian: could you tak a look at #3969 for me and push if you think it's OK?
18:02.31hvontres|work!oebug 3969
18:02.33cdbot2* * Bug 3969, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-03-08 06:23
18:02.34cdbot2* * <hvontres>: opie image uses MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER which defaults to task-base
18:02.35cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3969
18:08.57B_LizzardUm, is there an updated version of fontconfig-native?
18:09.05B_LizzardLike 2.4.1?
18:09.32B_Lizzardfontconfig-native 2.3.91, the latest version cannot build against freetype 2.3.5
18:10.58B_LizzardUm, as outlined in !oebug 2951
18:11.26B_LizzardUh
18:11.36B_LizzardI was the one that actually posted that bug
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18:21.57B_LizzardPlease make a fontconfig-native_2.4.1.bb file
18:22.23B_LizzardSimply renaming fontconfig-native_2.3.91 to fontconfig-native_2.4.1 will do
18:22.26B_LizzardIt worked for me
18:27.49xjqiantreitmayr: yeah, do you notice anything wrong with espeak
18:28.12treitmayrI think it does not work for big-endian and it cannot output sound, just audio to a file
18:28.15treitmayrdid you check it?
18:29.08treitmayrthere is an issue with the phon* files being little-endian in the zip-file
18:30.56Jin^eLDre
18:32.28Genesisre !
18:33.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 4049 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
18:33.06cdbot2* * libtool-cross-1.5.10-autobuild
18:33.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4049
18:35.27xjqiantreitmayr: is it also broken in 1.3.0 before for big-endian
18:36.35TartarusCan bitbake 1.8.10 do current .dev or do I need current unstable?
18:37.39treitmayrxjqian: as far as I remember yes
18:38.01treitmayrI have a fixed version for 1.35 working nicely
18:38.54treitmayrand a few of my proposed changes made it into 1.35 already
18:39.23xjqiantreitmayr: patch wellcome or disapprove mine
18:39.40treitmayrit's actually also a second recipe
18:40.40treitmayrI will send you the whole files
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18:47.42TartarusAnyone around that builds current .dev?
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18:51.02treitmayrxjqian: aehm, did you get the file? I just made a diff (cleaned up a few minor differences) -> http://pastebin.com/d4ce81668
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18:55.47CroftonI need to list some people (by gmail address) as mentors and a back up organizer
18:55.59xjqiantreitmayr, I can work from the diff. btw, do we need to ship the "speak" binary. It sounds redundant to me and I'm not sure what's the use of it.
18:56.35XorA|gonegmail addresses? is this the way google force you to feed them your secrets?
18:56.42treitmayrI don't think we need it either
18:56.54Croftonthey want "google accounts"
18:57.02xjqiantreitmayr: good
18:57.04Croftonall your secrets are belong to google
18:57.21XorA|goneCrofton: my google account doesnt use gmail
18:57.22Croftonthe only other person to volunteer one is koen
18:57.26Croftonhmmm
18:57.57XorA|goneCrofton: Im willing to kick some students into line, but Im not willing to get gmail to do it
18:58.08CroftonGoogle Account address
18:58.17treitmayrxjqian: I just noticed that the Makefile does not have to altered and the "export" infront of CXXFLAGS is not needed
18:58.17XorA|goneCrofton: graeme@openmoko.org then
18:58.33CroftonI was going to suggest you pm that ...
18:58.49XorA|goneCrofton: its not that secret really :-)
18:58.56Croftonok
18:58.57Crofton:)
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18:59.09CroftonI'm not sure how well received the app will be
18:59.17Croftonbut the practice is good for us
18:59.17XorA|gonemyname@companyIworkfor :-)
18:59.23Croftonyeah
18:59.37treitmayrxjqian: I need to leave...
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18:59.44XorA|goneCrofton: pity florian isnt about, he could piggy back the gpe projects as well
18:59.56xjqiantreitmayr: ok, I will test then push
19:00.22CroftonI wonder if I can do this in pieces and edit later
19:04.49Croftonwell, I screwed that up, the dealine was 4 minutes ago
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19:05.46zeckeXorA|gone: when are you done with this alsa stuff? I can't stand the qtopia buildsystem
19:06.13Croftonstupid Californians: March 12: Mentoring organization application deadline (12 noon PDT/19:00 UTC).
19:08.28XorA|gone8 minute ago
19:10.19Croftonwell, sorry about that
19:10.39CroftonI guess I achieved my goal, to learn something about about applying for GSoC
19:11.19XorA|goneCrofton: these things happen, when I hear deadline I aways think 5pm
19:11.43XorA|goneand I was SFA help anyway
19:15.39stelioskhi all !
19:16.28Croftonheh
19:16.56Croftonvss?
19:17.22XorA|goneVisual Source Safe
19:17.28Croftonhmmm
19:17.28stelioskI am trying to catch-up with mail and noticed a considerable increase of unread messages in the OE's folder.
19:17.42CroftonI dare you to suggest that
19:17.55stelioskXora|gone : OE for windows ?
19:19.04XorA|gonesteliosk: we waste all this time debugging linux problems, we should move to Vista where microsoft already solved them
19:19.27stelioskbtw has anyone ever bought mac addresses blocks from ieee  ?
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19:20.40stelioskXora|gone : heh yes, I was pointed to a youtube video/cartoon where Bill 'G' was showing off his 'new' 2007 house. Was so funny
19:27.35hvontres|workXorA|gone: VSS? and you thought branching/merging sucks in mtn
19:28.14hvontres|workxjqian: thanks for pushing
19:28.28XorA|gonehvontres|work: actually merging is a strong point for VSS, probably its only one :-)
19:29.25XorA|gonehvontres|work: I had the misfortune of actually having to use VSS in linux
19:30.49hvontres|workXorA|gone: then you tell that to our developers... they currently develop features off-line and then check them back in later....
19:31.31hvontres|workXorA|gone: plus, imagine being the poor schmuck who forgot to check in a disto.conf file....
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19:58.38XorA|goneBTW anyone need a GPRS CF card?
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20:08.11cdbot2* * OE Bug 4050 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
20:08.11ScaredyCatdoes it do audio ?
20:08.14ScaredyCat:P
20:08.14cdbot2* * dfu-util-0.1+svnr2866-autobuild
20:08.16cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4050
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20:27.50helgeDhvontres|work: "The Fn and shift keys don't work." -> That's a problem with the keymaps file. I've tracked the problem down and have a working keymaps file.
20:28.08helgeDhvontres|work: I'll try to look if I can mail it to you soon.
20:37.59hvontres|workhelgeD: Could you open a bug for that an attach yours? I'll take a look at it tonight when I get home
20:38.52hvontres|workhelgeD: right after I get 3969 proposed for angtrom stable
20:46.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 4051 has been created by deller(AT)gmx.de
20:46.06cdbot2* * The Fn and shift keys don't work in Opie-image on Poodle ( SL-5600)
20:46.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4051
20:52.03helgeDhvontres|work: Done that: http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4051
20:57.52Croftonsteliosk, your email makes me hurt myself laughing
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21:02.02vivijimsteliosk: hahahaha best answer ever
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21:08.51stelioskCrofton vivijim : :)
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21:36.01timtimredall windows users...
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21:42.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 4052 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
21:42.06cdbot2* * wlan-ng-modules-0.2.8+svn20071030-autobuild
21:42.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4052
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21:58.59pb__hi flo_lap
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22:04.53flo_laphey pb__
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22:09.31XorA|goneaaaargh why cant I get my zaurus hdd working
22:09.34mrdatanight all
22:10.28hvontres|workXorA|gone: maybe it feels lonely now :)
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22:26.58sushisanHi!
22:27.03sushisansomebody here?
22:28.58flo_laphi sushisan
22:29.47flo_lapsushisan: 142 nicks in here :)
22:30.16sushisanhi! Im trying to build my first oe, I'm come fron buildroot. Some advice?
22:31.32flo_lapsushisan: yes, forget what you know about build tools ;)
22:31.40sushisan:-)
22:31.40flo_lapscnr
22:31.44mwester-tripBuy low, sell high.
22:32.13sushisanflo_lap: scnr?
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22:33.09flo_lapSup3rkiddo: "sorry could not resist"
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22:37.18XorA|goneahah, fixed the internet hdd, forgot a -j
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22:40.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 4053 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder>
22:40.07cdbot2* * busybox-static-1.2.1-autobuild
22:40.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4053
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22:50.50hvontres|worknight all... time to go home
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