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01:31.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3754 has been created by dannytaylor(AT)visi.com
01:31.06cdbot2* * USB mouse is rotated
01:31.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3754
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04:13.36ggilbertkergoth: you around?
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04:50.29kergothggilbert: somewhat, whats up
04:50.58ggilbertjust wanted to poke you about bugs.openembedded.org.
04:51.05kergothwhat about it?
04:51.10ggilbertI've got the new hopefully permanent IP for it
04:51.15kergothah, what is it?
04:51.29ggilbert72.233.35.82
04:52.13kergothk, changed, just need to wait for it to propogate
04:52.17kergothshouldn't be more than a few hours
04:52.19ggilbertkk
04:52.27ggilbertthat's ok, I haven't actually installed bugzilla there yet
04:52.42ggilbertbut I figured propagation would take a while :p
04:54.01ggilbertthanks :)
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09:04.50fgcityhi all
09:05.05fgcityi'm new to OE could someone help me with one thing ?
09:06.07fgcityi'm setting up OE for Gumstix-Connex
09:06.27fgcityi've done everything described on the website up to the stage of the Locan configuration
09:06.51fgcityso what should my local.conf contain in order to compile for Gumstix-connex ?
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09:13.51fgcityhi all
09:13.59fgcityi'm new to OE could someone help me with one thing ?
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09:15.25fgcityis anyone here?
09:15.47ggilbertDoesn't look like anyone who can help is
09:16.31fgcityhmm
09:16.49hrwmorning
09:16.54ggilbertmorning hrw
09:16.56fgcitymorning
09:17.02The_Nizmorning
09:17.15ggilberthrw: go back to sleep for 10 more minutes :)
09:17.50hrwfgcity: MACHINE="gumstix-connex"
09:18.01hrwggilbert: ?
09:18.27fgcitythat's all i have to change in the local.conf.sample ?
09:18.48hrwfgcity: DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1"
09:18.49ggilberthrw: I'm just joking around. I thought I could finish my bugzilla before the europe crew woke up :p
09:19.04fgcityggilbert: wait
09:19.14fgcityok, what else?
09:19.23hrwggilbert: ;)
09:19.23fgcitythat's it?
09:19.33hrwggilbert: which ver of bugzilla we have now?
09:19.38hrwfgcity: should be all
09:19.49ggilberthrw: Didn't do any upgrades yet
09:19.52fgcitywhat about the BBFILES : ?
09:19.53ggilbertNeed to take a look at it
09:20.02fgcityi don't need it ?
09:20.09hrwfgcity: ah right - set them to OE/packages/ location
09:20.15ggilberthrw: Right now I'm just moving us over to a new address
09:20.22fgcityok
09:20.24hrwI see
09:20.34fgcityTNX hrw
09:20.34ggilberthrw: yeah, hopefully the last time :p
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09:20.37fgcityi'll try now
09:21.44hrwggilbert: one day (in 2012 or later?) OE will finally get some machines somewhere
09:21.52ggilberthehe
09:22.11fgcitythe BBMASK ?
09:22.18fgcityi don't need to change that ?
09:22.23hrwfgcity: you need machine/distro/bbfiles only
09:22.37fgcityok
09:22.40fgcitytesting ...
09:22.41fgcity:)
09:22.44fgcityhope it works
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09:31.10ggilbertok it's back up. There's also a temporary redirect in case bugs.openembedded.org hasn't updated for you.
09:31.14fgcityok, so how do i build now for gumstix-connex?
09:31.28fgcitybitbake .... ?
09:31.31ggilbertI'll poke laibsch in the morning ( for me )
09:31.32hrwfgcity: just do building
09:31.41hrwbitbake anything you want to build
09:31.59fgcityno i mean do i use : bitbake gumstix-whatever-image ?
09:32.10fgcityhow do i build so i have a jffs2 image ?
09:32.45hrwfgcity: do build - you will get jffs2 too
09:32.47The_Nizevery single image thusfar I tried failed to build :(
09:33.00hrwfgcity: if it is default for gumstix-connex
09:33.20fgcityso i type bitbake building ?
09:33.23hrwThe_Niz: should we care? did you posted logs of build? or reported bugs in bugtracker?
09:33.37hrwfgcity: bitbake console-image (for start)
09:33.38The_Nizhrw: no you shouldn't ;)
09:34.01The_NizI'm just fiddling around for the first time
09:34.28The_NizI'm sure it will get better when I actually bother to read stuff :p
09:34.28fgcitywhat will :bitbake console-image is going to build ?
09:34.55hrwfgcity: base system which will give you working system
09:35.28fgcityok, sorry if i'm a bit stupid about this. i know that if i type :bitbake GTK2 it will build it for gumstix
09:35.33fgcityis thinns correct ?
09:35.55fgcityor bitbake whatever will build the package for connex
09:35.59fgcitycorrect ?
09:36.14hrwyes
09:36.45fgcityok, so how do i build a base buildroot for connext with the minimal packages and gey a .jffs2 image to upload to gumstix ?
09:37.06hrwdepend what you think as 'minimal packages'
09:37.20fgcityenougth to get the linux booted
09:37.23hrwminimal-image or base-image will give you small rootfs
09:37.41hrwconsole-image will give you larger rootfs but more machine features will be covered
09:38.01fgcitywhat will -basic-image give me?
09:38.26hrwread its recipe
09:38.31fgcitywhere ?
09:38.41hrwin oe/packages/images/
09:39.33rwhitbybase-image gives you everything you ever wanted.  The only thing you need to do is type "ipkg install <package>" after booting the base image with network connected.
09:39.52rwhitbyit has enough features to allow that, and no more.
09:40.30fgcityok, so i type: bitbake basic-image?
09:40.36rwhitbybase-image
09:40.49fgcityok
09:40.53fgcityi'll try now
09:40.59rwhitbyit's a "base" from which you can install anything.
09:41.28fgcityPS: my packages are in org.openembedded.dev/packages
09:41.32fgcityis this correct?
09:41.37fgcitynow oe/packages
09:41.43fgcitynot oe/packages
09:41.52rwhitbythat's a choice you make when you set up your environment
09:41.57fgcityah
09:41.58fgcityok
09:42.17rwhitbymine, for instance, is openembedded/packages ...
09:43.36fgcityso i should specify that in my loacl.conf
09:43.38fgcityyes?
09:43.47fgcityBBFILES
09:44.43fgcityok, it's going :)
09:44.49fgcity5375 files
09:44.57fgcitywell, it's going to be a LONG day :)
09:49.07fgcityok, another question
09:49.22fgcitylwt's say i want to configure my Linux Kernel for gumstix
09:49.35fgcityin the Gumstix buildroot i was doing it by make menuconfig
09:49.40fgcityhow do i do it here?
09:50.17fgcityfor instance if i want to enable the Framebuffer support, or disable the network features
09:50.23fgcityhow would i di that in OE ?
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09:56.23fgcityok, i have an error about /nonworking/elf
09:56.58fgcitycould not inherit file classes/elf.bbclass pwile parsing ...
09:57.02fgcityso what do i do now?
09:58.53fgcityalso about nonworking/monotone-viz/monotone-viz_0.11.bb
09:59.07fgcityso after this 2 errors it exits
10:00.28fgcitycan i disable this or fix it?
10:00.30fgcityhow ?
10:03.00fgcitysorry it's efl
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10:06.39rwhitbyfgcity: do you have OE_REVISION    = "23fca8102a0b22b0ceafb6df76b8830547bd6179"
10:06.39rwhitby<PROTECTED>
10:06.49fgcityhow can i check ?
10:07.01rwhitbybitbake prints it out
10:07.25fgcityit doesn't for me
10:07.31fgcitywhat to type to see ?
10:07.50rwhitbycd org.openembedded.dev ; mtn head
10:08.46fgcityyes
10:08.49fgcitythat's what i have
10:08.58fgcitywhy ?
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10:09.46CIA-37linux-2.6.23/mpc8313e-rdb/defconfig: build USB audio and lm75 modules
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10:09.50CIA-3703jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r85ff089b... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux_2.6.23.bb): linux_2.6.23.bb: add flags for mpc8313e-rdb device tree generation
10:10.18rwhitbyfgcity: cause I get no parse errors with that revision
10:10.42fgcityso what could be wrong ?
10:11.00rwhitbywhat setup guide did you follow?
10:11.14fgcitythe one on the OE website
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10:12.46fgcityplease help out, what can be wrong here?
10:13.41Klecksesegfault in init. Can't boot
10:14.05KleckseLast boot log messages:
10:14.14KleckseVFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem).                                          
10:14.14KleckseFreeing init memory: 68K (90000000 - 90011000)                                  
10:14.14Kleckseinit[1]: segfault at 00000008 pc 2aaabbe8 sp 7fabbf40 ecr 24                    
10:14.14Kleckseinit has generated signal 11 but has no handler for it                          
10:14.14KleckseKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!    
10:14.22Genesisbonjour
10:14.43fgcityok, the Distro in the local.conf file i used angstrom-2008.1
10:14.47fgcitynot 2007.1
10:14.48Laibschping ggilbert
10:14.52fgcitycould that be it ?
10:15.00LaibschI guess you worked on the bug tracker?
10:15.02ggilbertLaibsch:  yo
10:15.03ggilbertyup
10:15.11ggilbertshould be all working right now
10:15.15LaibschOh, good you are awake
10:15.21ggilbertawake is relative
10:15.21Laibschno, it is not
10:15.29ggilbertLaibsch: what isn't?
10:15.29Laibschabsolutely unusable
10:15.35Laibsch1) Try logging in
10:15.41fgcityguys....
10:15.43Laibsch2) try just looking at a bug
10:15.48fgcityplease help out here
10:15.50Laibsch!oebug 1
10:15.51cdbot2* * Bug 1, Status: HTTP transfer failed :(
10:16.12LaibschThere is a / missing after the server IP
10:16.57Laibschggilbert: enter 1 into the search box
10:16.59Laibschhttp://72.233.35.82show_bug.cgi/?id=1
10:17.03Laibsch<PROTECTED>
10:17.14ggilbertah, I've been going to bugs.openembedded.org, didn't catch that
10:17.23Laibschggilbert: why IP now?
10:17.31KleckseI tried both, booting form nfs and from flash.. both gave the same result
10:17.36Laibschwell, I think this happens on .org as well
10:18.50Laibschmickey|zzZZzz: Can you please point bugs.oe.net to 72.233.35.82?
10:19.36Laibschggilbert: is that IP permanent?
10:19.44ggilbertAs permanent as can be
10:19.54Laibschnice!
10:20.13ggilbertI'll say I have no plans to move any time soon :p
10:20.48ggilbertlooks like the templates compiled incorrectly
10:20.49ggilbertodd
10:21.19fgcitycan anyone help me?, i have Parsing errors when doing bitbake
10:21.25fgcitythe error is for EFL
10:21.56rwhitbyfgcity: it would help if you use pastebin.ca to show everyone your config files, and the full log of what you ran and what error you got.
10:21.56fgcityand nonworking/monotone-viz/monotone-viz_0.11.bb
10:22.09Laibschggilbert: Let me know when things are back in order, OK?
10:22.10fgcityok 1 sec
10:22.21ggilbertLaibsch: I'm poking at it and .org seems fine
10:22.30ggilbertTrying to sort out what's going on with .net
10:22.36Laibsch.org cannot possibly be fine
10:22.41LaibschDNS is still borked
10:22.52ggilbertHmm?
10:22.56LaibschBut I'll try .org with a tweaked resolv.conf ;-)
10:23.02ggilbertshould work for you in a few hours, I guess
10:23.06ggilbert.org is working fine over here
10:24.01ggilbertinteresting, it's specfically id numbers that's breaking
10:24.37Laibschggilbert: looks fine to me now, too
10:24.51LaibschThanks for fixing it
10:25.07ggilbertKergoth updated DNS a little earlier
10:25.24fgcityok, it's http://pastebin.com/m321fd359
10:25.35fgcitythere you will see the errors i got and the conf file
10:25.46fgcityplease check it out and help out if possible
10:26.06ggilbertok there we go
10:26.26ggilbertLaibsch: the old IP will probably be valid for around a wekk
10:26.52ggilbertmaybe two, I don't recall what the exact dates were off hand
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10:29.00rwhitbyfgcity: try putting */*.bb on the end of BBFILES
10:29.34fgcityok, 1 sec
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10:49.26fgcityok. now i have an error when compilingquilt-native_0.46
10:49.57fgcitywhen it does Config it says that i have a version of BASH which suffers from a quoting bug
10:51.10fgcitythus when doing do-config it exits
10:53.27fgcityso.. i have to patch my bash with the patch fix ?
10:53.41fgcityor what ?
10:53.49fgcityis this a known error
10:53.50fgcity?
10:56.25fgcityps
10:56.31fgcitythe bash it tries to compile is Bash3.1
10:57.49Klecksehas someone an idea what could be wrong if init fails to start?
10:57.56hrwKleckse: arm?
11:00.15Kleckseavr32
11:00.45Klecksekernel boots up and init fails with segfault...
11:01.32fgcitycan i update a package in OE ?
11:01.42fgcityso that i don't compile Bash 3.0
11:01.45fgcitybut 3.1
11:01.48fgcityor 3.2
11:01.48fgcity?
11:03.11BernardoXorA: thanks for the hotel suggestion
11:04.26fgcityhere is the error in http://pastebin.com/m7b60d922
11:04.35fgcitycould please someone take a look ?
11:04.57Klecksehrw: any ideas for me on how to solve my problem?
11:05.31hrwno ideas - never touched avr32
11:05.36XorABernardo: was ok then?
11:06.03Kleckse:-(
11:06.11rwhitbyfgcity: what host OS are you running?
11:06.20fgcityFedora 6
11:06.45hrwfgcity: upgrade bash then
11:06.50fgcityhm
11:06.51fgcityok
11:07.00rwhitbyor if you want less problems, use Debian Etch or Ubuntu :-)
11:07.02fgcitysorry for the next stupid question
11:07.04fgcityhow ?
11:07.07hrwI know that Poky (OE derivative) builds under fedora 8
11:07.49rwhitbyhrw: even binary locales?
11:08.43rwhitbyI used to build with CentOS, but gave up cause OE developers just kept making assumptions that only held true on Debian or Ubuntu.
11:09.51fgcityi have Bash 3.1.7
11:10.09fgcityrelease i386-redhat-linux-gnu
11:14.17hrwrwhitby: with kernel change yes
11:14.36hrwrwhitby: execshield patch needs to be dropped
11:14.58hrwrwhitby: it took me day to find
11:16.18XorAhrw: ahah, so you found the patch
11:16.44hrwXorA: yes. thx for info btw
11:16.58XorAhrw: no probs, a vague memory from my fedora days :-)
11:20.53BernardoXorA: the only problem was that I forgot to ask for a non-smoking room
11:21.20XorABernardo: Im not sure they have such a thing, I asked for non smoking last year and it smelled of smoke
11:21.43Bernardoyep, mine stinked when I woke up in the morning
11:21.53fgcityok, i've updated to Bash2.0
11:22.03fgcityi'll try to run bitbake again now
11:22.08fgcitywish me luck :)
11:22.15XorABernardo: I just figured that part of belgium smoked like factory chimneys
11:23.45BernardoXorA: apart from that, it was very nice. I got robbed by a taxi driver, but that is usual... Paid 6.5€ from gare du nord to the hotel
11:24.06XorABernardo: thats cheap for UK, quit yah moaning :-)
11:24.27XorAhmm, why does libao have libao-alsa and libao-plugin-alsa which are the same :-)
11:24.34XorAand none of them are needed
11:25.22BernardoXorA: here I'd pay that to go across Lisbon on a rush hour...:)
11:25.42XorABernardo: its 27 GBP to get from center of Edin to my house
11:26.31XorArwhitby: is there some funny business with nslu2 and alsa?
11:27.42rwhitbyXorA: no idea
11:28.13XorArwhitby: well if you have no idea, Ill clean it up, I just ask as the original files seemed to come from nail and nslu2 repo
11:29.38rwhitbyXorA: please do.
11:30.12XorArwhitby: I guess they probably stem from the days people didnt know you could PACKAGES += and stuff
11:30.31rwhitbymost probably
11:31.23rwhitbythe nslu2 team (including myself) committed some OE atrocities in the early days :-)
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11:36.56Croftonyay, schedule for FOSDEM embdedded dev room is up!
11:41.19XorALinux on the PS3???
11:41.27XorAthat is hardly embedded
11:41.35XorAthe damn thing is bigger than my desktop PC
11:42.14ggilbertLaibsch: ok, gonna go to sleep now
11:42.28ggilbertjust make a list if you run into anything else broken, but I think everything should be ok
11:42.35Laibschthanks, sleep tight
11:42.43Laibschlooks good now
11:44.59XorACrofton: we need to invade http://www.fosdem.org/2008/schedule/events/mozilla_mobile
11:45.09XorACrofton: and make them apply EABI patches
11:45.42hrwand force them to make Gecko modular
11:45.54hrwI spent few days trying to build mozilla mobile and failed
11:46.22Croftonok
11:46.43CroftonXorA, I need to go see that
11:46.44XorAwe should get OE Heavy Mob t-shirts made up :-)
11:47.22CroftonWe need uniforms
11:47.32XorAin black
11:47.35Croftonheh
11:47.42XorAincluding great coats
11:47.43CroftonI was going to mention they would need to be black
11:48.22XorAand new rocks as 3 inches in height it always advantageous
11:50.41CroftonXorA, my "conservative friend" was very impressed with yours and zecke's knowledge fo American presidential eections
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12:27.19fgcityhow long (approximately ) does it take to bitbake the basic-image ?
12:27.36fgcityit's 2 hours now and it's at 72 of 1267
12:27.45fgcityso this will take all day ?
12:28.05fgcity(i don't mind as long as it doesn't popup any errors :)  )
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12:32.25Jin^eLDfgcity: on my quad core with 4 gb ram and a raid 0 stripe it takes less than 40 minutes to build everything from scratch
12:32.36Jin^eLDon a dual xeon with slower drivers - bout two hours
12:32.41NAbyssfgcity: For me, it takes 6 hours or so.. single processor @ 1.7GHz, 2gb of ram
12:33.04NAbyssfor the x11 image
12:33.09fgcityhmm
12:33.28fgcityok, i guess this is going to take all day for me with 1.3GHZ Celeron :)
12:33.43fgcity(this is a seperate machine i have for Linux only)
12:33.56fgcitythis is exciting... no errors so far
12:34.22fgcityok, another question
12:34.37fgcityhow do i configure the Linux Kernel for this build?
12:34.49fgcityon the Gumstix buildroot i used to fo make menuconfig
12:34.55fgcityhow do i do it here?
12:35.15fgcityfor example if i want to enable the Framebuffer support of to disable the network support
12:35.18fgcityhow do i do that ?
12:36.58Jin^eLDI'd wait till the build is finished, then I'd go to the work directory where the linux kernel was build, there you can also use make menuconfig, like ARCH=bleh make menuconfig
12:37.03Jin^eLDsave your config somewhere
12:37.08Jin^eLDand then use it with a custom .bb file
12:37.28fgcityhm, ok
12:37.39fgcitywhen the build is finiched i guess someone here could explain it
12:37.41fgcityyes?
12:37.50Jin^eLDmostprobably :)
12:38.10fgcityTnx guys
12:38.18fgcityi really appriciate the support
12:38.28fgcitydoes the GTK2 and Navit compile fine for OE ?
12:38.36Jin^eLDthey helped me a lot too, I doubt I would have gotten far without this channel
12:38.42hrwfgcity: navit should works
12:38.46fgcitythe whole reason i'm using OE is to use Navit on Gumstix
12:39.05fgcitydoes GTK2 also compile ok?
12:39.30fgcity(navit needs it)
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12:44.02hrwfgcity: gtk2 in OE works for years
12:44.09fgcityExcellent
12:44.38fgcityi guess we talk again after the build finishes. so see you later guys and once again Tnx for all the help
12:44.56Croftonfgcity, has sakoman already built navit for gumstix?
12:44.57fgcity(i have to eat sometime today) :)
12:45.10fgcityi don't know
12:45.21Croftonyou might ping him in #gumstix
12:45.35Croftonalthough his todo list is already pretty long :)
12:45.43fgcityheh
12:45.48fgcityok, i'll ping him
12:48.59fgcitywhy? who is sakoman ?
12:49.27fgcityis he a developer?
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12:58.27fgcityok, i have talked to the gumstix guys now in their channel
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12:58.48fgcitythey say that Touchscreen for linux UCB1400 is not in oe.dev
12:58.53fgcityis this correct ?
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13:15.28fgcitywill Microwindows-0.91 build on OE ?
13:15.57hrwhoho.. I do not know does someone tried last time
13:16.14hrwwe have microwindows 0.90 in OE
13:16.20fgcityhm
13:16.21fgcityok
13:16.24fgcitygood
13:17.05hrwdoes it build? no idea
13:17.17fgcityi would need the NXLIB libraries also for it to use GTK
13:17.23fgcitycan i add this things later?
13:17.35hrwcan
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13:17.52fgcityok, will i have to rebuild the entire oe or just that ?
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13:19.48hrw~kick Crofton
13:19.48ibotACTION kicks Crofton
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13:20.32polarbearHi at all... i have a problem... I have corss-compiled vlc 0.8.6d to arm platform pda (ipaq h5550 whit Familiar Linux 0.8.4) whitout errors... but when I lunch vlc on pda it do an segmentation fault error caused from the interface (I think)... someone know if exist a patch for the pda interface for vlc?
13:20.54Crofton:)
13:23.11polarbearthis is the error -> GTk critical **:gtk_widget_set_size_request: assertion width >=-1 failed Segmentation Fault
13:25.18CIA-3703florian 07org.oe.dev * reb3b39e9... 10/ (1 packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.20.bb): xserver-common: Add 1.20
13:25.23CIA-3703florian 07org.oe.dev * r37fb0c3c... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux: Add support for IBM J320 Netvista to 2.6.23
13:25.27CIA-3703florian 07org.oe.dev * r0f1b9dce... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netvista.conf): netvista.conf: Use generic kernel recipe instead of always broken linux-x86.
13:25.37CIA-3703jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r07fe99f4... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): vorbis-tools_1.1.1.bb: package version 1.1.1 of vorbis-tools
13:25.45CIA-3703jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r55425c65... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): u-boot-1.3.1: add patches for mpc8313e-rdb nand & autoboot
13:25.55CIA-3703jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * rf6aaa1ee... 10/ (1 packages/upnp/libupnp_1.4.2.bb): libupnp_1.4.2.bb: package libupnp 1.4.2 (pupnp fork)
13:26.03CIA-3703jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r56d99745... 10/ (1 packages/ushare/ushare_1.1a.bb): ushare_1.1a.bb: package ushare version 1.1a
13:26.08CIA-3703koen 07org.oe.dev * r379bc484... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-feed-configs.bb): angstrom-feed-configs: add opkg support
13:26.16CIA-3703koen 07org.oe.dev * r0d8bbbcd... 10/ (1 packages/opkg/opkg-ipkg-compat.bb): opkg-ipkg-compat: 'meta' package for ipkg->opkg transition
13:26.25CIA-3703xora 07org.oe.dev * r8dadec7d... 10/ (1 packages/libao/libao_0.8.8.bb):
13:26.25CIA-37libao_0.8.8.bb : add new version and rather than spurious alsa plugins
13:26.25CIA-37.bb files just package alsa and pulse plugins seperately.
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13:28.48CIA-3703mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r51df7780... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
13:28.48CIA-37applied changes from 567d05bbd75df7441d86ea1fe729b0ac87293846
13:28.48CIA-37<PROTECTED>
13:28.48CIA-37glibc 2.5, 2.6.1:
13:28.48CIA-37* check for updated resolv.conf before a nameserver call (see debian bug
13:28.49CIA-37#272265)
13:28.51CIA-37* remove bogus executable attribute for patch
13:29.32polarbearnobody knoq my problem
13:29.42polarbearCrofton any idea?
13:30.08hrwpolarbear: familiar? #familiar is their support channel
13:30.19polarbearhrw
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13:30.28polarbearthe problem is in interface of vlc
13:30.39polarbearand you have write a patch for vlc 0.8.4
13:30.51hrwI do not use vlc at all
13:30.58polarbeari want understand if the same person write a patch for 0.8.6
13:31.23polarbearhrw but i need vlc and the openembedde team have write a patch for vlc
13:31.35hrwsomeone wrote yes.
13:31.44polarbearwho?
13:31.48hrwif you want newer version of vlc then adapt it
13:31.55hrwpolarbear: use 'mtn log' on patc?
13:32.18polarbearmnt log and what do this command?
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13:34.36polarbearcan i speak with the people that have write the patch^?
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13:38.17hrwpolarbear: grab OE, use monotone to find wo wrote it and then try to contact?
13:38.44hrwor wait a momoent - I will look
13:39.31hrwit was committed with 'frederic@openembedded.org' key
13:39.38hrwbut do not ask me who it is
13:42.35XorAfrederic according to people is the old SIMpad maintainer
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13:44.16polarbearthank you hrw... i will try to contact this Frederic ;-)
13:44.38hrwI wouldd rather try to fix patch
13:47.56polarbearI have also tried to modify the patch and now I have only the segmentation fault problem...
13:49.27polarbearbut i don't know where can to be the cause... marò
13:49.39XorAthats what gdb is for
13:50.28polarbearXorA gdb on a pda? it is crazy
13:50.40XorApolarbear: not crazy, its called debugging
13:51.13XorApolarbear: your PDA has more memory and faster CPU than my first linux machine, quit moaning :-)
13:51.31polarbearXorA yes but it is very stupid
13:51.44polarbearthe pda  i inteend
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14:07.12CIA-3703xora 07org.oe.dev * r7ab7cd00... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
14:07.12CIA-37pulseaudio_0.9.9.bb : updated disable-using-glibc-tls.patch to also disable
14:07.12CIA-37hierarchical pthread stuff which is what causes gst lockups
14:11.00CIA-3703xora 07org.oe.dev * r32696f45... 10/ (1 packages/libao/libao_0.8.8.bb):
14:11.00CIA-37libao_0.8.8.bb : specifically ask for mmap from alsa plugin instead of
14:11.00CIA-37making it the default. mmap has higher latency
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14:12.06hrwhi Rodrigo
14:14.03univacoe still useing monotone?
14:15.24ynezzyes, still
14:16.09ynezzI wonder when the 'mtn pull'command will take hour to finish :p
14:16.37univacyep ..
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14:19.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3755 has been created by S.G.Pickering(AT)bath.ac.uk
14:19.07cdbot2* * D-Bus source code URL change
14:19.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3755
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14:36.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3755 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch>
14:36.07cdbot2* * D-Bus source code URL change
14:36.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3755
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14:43.11apaulsenflorian: are you the maintainer for xserver-common?
14:44.10fgcityi have a problem building OE
14:44.11fgcity<PROTECTED>
14:44.23fgcityplease someone take a look and tell me what is going on
14:45.53hrwfgcity: does 'bitbake gettext-native' helps?
14:46.12fgcitywhat do you mean ?
14:47.03hrwdo 'bitbake gettext-native' and then 'bitbake linux-libc-headers'
14:47.16LaibschIf http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision/info/5b39dd5751765304c0257f1ce36b2fb246b5cbaa is correct, why do we still have 'DISTRO = "angstrom"' in angstrom.inc?
14:47.46LaibschI am not sure about config files for distributions and this particular setting is creating problems for me.
14:50.16CIA-3703Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rb281d50e... 10/ (1 packages/dbus/dbus.inc): dbus: update SRC_URI. Fixes 3755.
14:50.22CIA-3703xora 07org.oe.dev * r723de5a4... 10/ (1 conf/machine/fic-gta02.conf): fic-gta02.conf : dont ship smdk2440 sound drivers
14:50.27CIA-3703xora 07org.oe.dev * rdd027a8b... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): linux/linux-openmoko-devel* : clear out old unused kernels
14:50.33lumagEvening!
14:50.37XorAhey lumag
14:51.12lumagmickeyl: I've received the tosa jacket. It's... wonderful :)
14:52.01lumagAcording to trisoft, now tosa weights 440 g. Quite a brick.
14:52.10lumaghey, XorA
14:52.27XorAlumag: BTW any news on FOSDEM?
14:53.00lumagXorA, no. The last hope failed, so I asked hrw to use EMS or DHL.
14:53.07fgcityhm
14:53.07fgcityok
14:53.10fgcitythat helped
14:53.17XorAlumag: cool, saves me carrying the brick
14:53.22fgcitytnx hrw
14:55.24mickeyllumag: thanks for confirming. good speed in getting it supported under 2.6
14:55.39mickeyllumag: if you manage to make it work, you can keep it as a present :D
14:56.07lumagThe battery is already charging :)
14:56.16lumagmickeyl: wow. You are really generous!
14:56.40mickeylno problem :)
14:56.51lumagThank you very much!
14:56.55mickeyl:)
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15:10.41hrwfgcity: good to know
15:10.56hrwlumag: now you have extra motivation ;)
15:11.13fgcitywhoops, no
15:11.21fgcitylet me post the next error :)
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15:12.35lumaghrw: yup. I'll get another CF card for testing it's cf slot in a few days. And the only thing left would be jacket detection and battery lock switches.
15:13.07fgcityhttp://pastebin.com/m65503ed2
15:13.31hrwlumag: how many and which cards do you have?
15:13.32lumagAnd more correct algo for drivers/power/apm_power to handle such cases.
15:14.05hrwfgcity: bitbake linux-libc-headers -crebuild
15:14.17lumagI test it with my Transcend CF 2Gb card. And in a few days I'll receive the CF BT adapter.
15:14.44fgcityok
15:14.47fgcityi'll try now
15:14.54lumagInserting cf into jacket slot worked fine.
15:14.54fgcitytnx (again hrw)
15:14.59fgcity:)
15:15.18hrwfgcity: do not thank before testing
15:15.26fgcity:)
15:19.46fgcityanother error:
15:20.07fgcityhttp://pastebin.com/m4997d4b9
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15:23.45hrwlumag: mickeyl as camera...
15:23.46hrw;P
15:24.13hrws/ as / has /
15:24.30lumaghrw: rofl :)
15:24.34zeckemickeyl: did I return your camera?
15:24.37mickeylhehehe
15:24.39mickeylzecke: you did
15:24.43zecke*puh*
15:24.44mickeylyes, i have the camera. lumag, you can have it
15:24.48mickeylplease send me your mail again
15:24.59hrwlumag: and Laibsch should have spare serial cable?
15:24.59mickeyls/mail/address/
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15:25.10Laibschyes
15:25.13lumagmickeyl: that's too good to be true :)
15:26.12lumagHmm. I wanted a cable to crack it to create "cradle-like" one: with usb and serial.
15:27.07hrwNokia-N810-50-2:~# cat /proc/version
15:27.11hrwLinux version 2.6.21-omap1 (hrw@maluch) (gcc version 3.4.4 (release) (CodeSourcery ARM 2005q3-2)) #1 Thu Feb 7 15:37:55 CET 2008
15:27.36hrwit is Maemo with Poky kernel
15:27.41zeckeNokia-N810-42-18:~# lsmod | grep dvb
15:27.42zeckedvb_usb_m920x 8900 4 - Live 0xbf062000
15:27.42zeckedvb_usb 17932 1 dvb_usb_m920x, Live 0xbf05c000
15:27.42zeckedvb_pll 11876 1 dvb_usb, Live 0xbf058000
15:27.43zecke;)
15:27.46XorAlumag: I have spare zaurus connector
15:27.58XorAlumag: comes from an old usb cable that fell to peices
15:28.37lumagXorA: usb cabled probably won't suit. The minisync connector is too big to fit below the keyboard.
15:28.39zeckeI have a old original sharp serial cable
15:28.53zeckesome one wants it? (assuming I will find it)
15:29.07XorAlumag: it fitted the collie
15:29.09hrwlumag: tosa can use serial cable from sharp
15:29.16Laibschwhat is a "tosa jacket"?
15:29.17hrwI can test it now
15:29.21stefan_schmidtheh, everybody dumps his zaurus stuff
15:29.52hrwlumag: ce-170s fits nice into tosa
15:29.57hrwlumag: no keyobard of course
15:30.22XorAlumag: ah yes I see stupid design of tosa keyboard
15:30.53hrwand i/o connector is reversed
15:30.57lumaghrw: I have one thank's to xjqian. It fits, if you open the keyboard before inserting the cable.
15:31.38lumagBut I don't want to break it if I don't have a spare one.
15:33.00lumagmickeyl: i've resent you my address.
15:33.07mickeylk
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15:36.36lumagBye!
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15:40.02sriramhow big will be a minimum x11 image?
15:41.58hrwshould be less then 14M
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15:46.56florianre
15:47.05florianapaulsen: yes, I guess os :)
15:47.11florians/os/so
15:48.32apaulsenflorian: thanks for adding the omap Xserver entry. Could you do the same for the xmodmap things in bug 3750?
15:48.57florianapaulsen: i'll take a look now
15:49.05apaulsenflorian: also, there is an extra file in Xinit.d :)
15:51.34floriana patch patch ;)
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15:51.46apaulsendoublepatch goodness
15:53.33florianapaulsen: ok, i guess i have that right upstream now...
15:53.55florianapaulsen: which file to Xinit.d?
15:53.58srirami have written a bb file with XSERVER, matcbbox, pango, ttf-bitstream-vera, tslib. the usr/lib directory itself is 20MB
15:54.21apaulsenflorian: 12keymap.orig
15:54.36sriramthe whole filesystem comes to some 35MB or so
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15:55.21woglindehi rschuster
15:55.36florianhi rschuster
15:55.51florianapaulsen: huh... i wonder wher this came from :)
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15:59.42rschuste1hi florian, hi henning
16:01.35florianMore changes for xserver-common anyone?
16:01.40slapinhi, all! sorry for disturbance, but do anybody is aware of some embedded Linux job offerings (I prefer teleworking or could move somewhere nearby)?
16:03.07florianslapin: zecke was looking for a kernel hacker yesterday
16:03.21zecke<PROTECTED>
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16:03.46zeckework permit for the EU required :)
16:04.25slapinzecke, cool, but IIRC it is given when you have a contract, no?
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16:04.39zeckeno idea :)
16:05.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3750 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <florian>
16:05.07cdbot2* *
16:05.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3750
16:05.13slapinzecke, I don't have anything against moving bts, since I doubt I ever go to Germany with my current employer ;)
16:05.22Jin^eLDslapin: company I work is constnatly expanding, but I am not sure regarding teleworking
16:05.29Jin^eLD.at, Vienna
16:05.36hrwslapin: who you work for?
16:06.34slapinhrw,  6-letter company starting with s.
16:06.40Jin^eLD:)
16:07.50CIA-3703mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rdcb061c2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gsm0710muxd svn remove initscript, ship dbus service files, bump SRCREV
16:07.56slapinhrw, big enough to have long hands, and I'm not in any way representative, just in case (standard disclaimer skipped)...
16:08.52hrwslapin: in Ukrainian mafia starts with s?
16:10.09slapinhrw, no, it is europian mafia, called transnational corporation (a big one).
16:10.16cbrakeI've been pushing some changes to dev.oe.org, but I don't see notifications in IRC or oe-commits -- hmm ...
16:11.29stelioskhi all !
16:11.39cbrakeis monotone.openembedded.org still the repo to use?
16:12.03hrwcbrake: it is still
16:12.05hrwsteliosk: hi
16:12.56woglindehi steliosk
16:14.22florianhi steliosk
16:16.10woglindeslpain yeah I wondered me too
16:16.18cbrakelooks like the mtn changes went out this time -- must be user error on my part :-\
16:17.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2609 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <florian>
16:17.07cdbot2* * xserver-common should have /etc/X11/shepherd.xmodmap
16:17.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2609
16:17.17cdbot2* * OE Bug 1851 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by andrew.paulsen(AT)gmail.com
16:17.18cdbot2* * gconf versions inconsistant
16:17.20cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1851
16:18.11slapinwoglinde, it is 7-letter company, not 6 :(
16:19.11woglindeslpain *g* i saw it
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16:27.11apaulsenflorian: do you think we could set up these xmodmaps so they are machine dependant rather than having a copy of every machine's xmodmap and autodetecting which one to use at startup?
16:27.27stelioskhad a brief look at the ml and it seems that the SCM 'wars' are on....
16:29.38florianapaulsen: that would look better from oe side... but ties up the problem to the build system
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16:31.52hrwflorian: or split it into ARM package + machine package?
16:33.05florianhrw: sure, but it still ties up xserver-common to oe (we have that with xserver-kdrive-common already)
16:33.20florianhrw: and it adds another package for a few bytes
16:33.23Croftonsteliosk, they seemed to die back a bit
16:33.40CroftonI need to stir a little, I need a git guru to explain how we would use git for OE
16:34.12Croftonmake that git impaired
16:35.28stelioskCrofton : I am still trying to catch up with my email.... I am at the part where things are still active ;)
16:35.47Croftonheh
16:36.42zeckeCrofton: what do you want to know?
16:36.51zeckeCrofton: you would have to git-merge before you git-push
16:36.56stelioskzecke : btw Tailor failed to convert from Monotone to svn after a day and half, and it did it by whipping out all .svn
16:36.57Croftonzecke, I'll send an email when I get a chnce
16:37.09zeckesteliosk: :)
16:37.14zeckeCrofton: use git-svn
16:37.17zeckeotavio: ping :)
16:37.23CroftonI think the work cycle would be good to discuss on the list
16:37.33zeckeotavio: was my kdrive/loadkeymap hint
16:38.02zeckeCrofton: hehe, I can talk about what we do for the QtWebKit project
16:38.19stelioskzecke : Will do. Had very little time this week to work on that.
16:38.55woglindesteliosk hehe
16:38.56zeckelol
16:39.13woglindesteliosk you can play at soccer robocup with it
16:39.55stelioskWell.... the 'official'  explanation is that "i bought it for my son"....
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16:40.28ulituhi zecke
16:40.29zeckelol
16:40.38zeckesteliosk: how old is he? how many month?
16:40.52stelioskit will be 3 months in 2 days from now
16:41.13stelioskabout the same size as the Robosapien hehe
16:41.53otaviozecke: loadkeymap?
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16:42.08otaviozecke: I'm building an image to test ...
16:42.23otaviozecke: but I lack to see why the kernel would affect it
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16:46.54zeckeotavio: kdrive loads the keymap from the kernel
16:48.06otaviozecke: i've tested with xorg and it doesn't works too
16:48.23CIA-3703cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r5fa2d6d4... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): gesbc-9302, linux-2.6.24: update gesbc-9302 to 2.6.24 released kernel version
16:48.24otaviozecke: should it also be need for xorg? I guess not. :(
16:48.31CIA-3703florian 07org.oe.dev * r74712093... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-common: Update to 1.21
16:48.35otaviozecke: will build it with kdrive and check
16:48.38CIA-3703cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rcc263d55... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-2.6.24: add reboot patch for gesbc-9302 kernel
16:49.11otaviozecke: the git mirror got stuck again, could you take a look?
16:51.49zeckeotavio: the question is what doesn't work, if xev is not showing your accents on key pressed your x is not configured properly..
16:52.00woglindebye
16:52.03zeckeotavio: it is not stucked, I need to call it manually and started it after pinging you
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17:02.09otaviozecke: right. So xev would be the best tool to test it, right?
17:02.16otaviozecke: will check it and come back to you
17:02.24otaviozecke: what could be the missing things?
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17:02.36zeckeotavio: loading the right keymap into the kernel ;)
17:02.53otaviozecke: good. will do and ping you
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17:19.03apaulsendoes anyone know why xserver-kdrive depends on hal?  hald seems to be using an obscene amount of memory, has a broken init script, and doesn't appear to have any effect on anything that I can tell
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17:44.33ollie_hi all, is anyone around who crosscompiles for dreambox?
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17:50.23LaibschXorA|gone: I will bump sanesrcrev for opkg to 4022 which compiles for me.  4019 does not
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18:13.49tnbI'm trying to build a standalone SDK from OE. When I include task-sdk-host in an image, I get: | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-sdk-host:
18:13.50tnb|        binutils-cross-sdk gcc-cross-sdk gdb-cross-sdk
18:13.50tnbbut I see those packages in deploy/. Any thoughts?
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18:43.35zecketnb: wrong architecture? (package architecture)
18:44.30tnbzecke: possibly. The whole sdk stuff is still a mystery to me. Is it currently "half-baked"?
18:44.44zeckeworks for me
18:46.52tnbzecke: ok, how do I build a standalone sdk? Seems only "tasks" are available, not images (except for openmoko)
18:47.25zecketnb: meta-toolchain iirc
18:47.41tnbok, I'll look. thanks
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19:01.52tnbzecke: looking good... was just missing the meta mojo
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19:17.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 3756 has been created by <Laibsch>
19:17.07cdbot2* * change description for dev, dbg and doc packages
19:17.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3756
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19:54.56Fry-kunhello
19:55.37mikeeeeeewho hates my nexuiz maps?
19:56.50Fry-kunI keep getting this error every time I try to run "bitbake virtual/kernel":  "build/tmp/angstrom/cross/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-as: unrecognized option `-Qy'"
19:57.22Fry-kunwell, actually, any target - even helloworld
19:58.33Fry-kunI followed HOWTOs http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted and http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom -- both result in same error
19:59.23woglindefry-kun which machine?
19:59.46Fry-kuna1200
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20:00.16Fry-kuntried distro angstrom-2007.1 and angstrom-2008.1
20:00.38woglindethey are the same
20:00.42Fry-kunah
20:00.43woglindeby the way
20:00.52woglindehm sorry cant help with a1200
20:01.03woglindeseems no one did effort in it
20:01.10Fry-kun?
20:02.42Fry-kuni've found a few references to the error -- one mentioned that PATH variable is wrong (it was, but didn't fix the issue for me) -- another provided a workaround (rename as -> as.HOLD), and it worked until the next error
20:03.42woglindeno path shouldnt be wrong
20:04.04woglindeaeh assembler dont know about the -Qy option
20:04.12woglindewhich the kernel Makefiles uses
20:05.01Fry-kunwhy does it use that option if the assembler doesn't know about it?? *confused*
20:05.20Fry-kundo I need to install some other assembler to make it work?
20:05.26woglindebecause the binutils and kernel people arent the same
20:05.43woglindedont know
20:05.52woglindedont know much about the a1200 kernel
20:05.56woglindeand the patches
20:08.09CIA-3703tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rde7bad1a... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2-plugins.bb): enigma2-plugins: cleanup and fix CONTROL parsing
20:08.14CIA-3703Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf574392c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs.inc: bump entry for opkg to 4022. 4019 did not build for me.
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20:15.53Fry-kunsooo... how do I get this problem resolved?
20:16.20Fry-kunwho do I need to bug about it?
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20:32.37Fry-kunnevermind, seems like the problem is solved: had "." in my PATH
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20:55.01apaulsendoes anyone know how to disable hal support in kdrive?  --disable-config-hal didn't seem to work.  hald is taking 20MB of ram on my 32MB system, so it has to go.
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21:24.59apaulsenNevermind, I got it
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21:48.02CroftonXorA|gone, http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080207-ibm-shrinks-cell-to-45nm-cheaper-ps3s-will-follow.html
21:48.06Croftoncloser to embeddable
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21:51.21undertookhi all
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22:37.24thesinghi everybody
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23:06.01CIA-3703Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r9d0c3347... 10/ (1 packages/eb/eb_4.3.bb packages/eb/eb_4.3.2.bb):
23:06.01CIA-37eb: update to version 4.3.2
23:06.02CIA-37* fixes unfetchable source
23:06.02CIA-37* improve packaging granularity (add utils package and make sure doc stuff is actually in -doc)
23:06.02CIA-37* use autotools_stage_all instead of custom do_stage routine (comment 11 from bug 1383)
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23:20.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 3739 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch>
23:20.07cdbot2* * add an initramfs that mounts root and kexecs a kernel from there .
23:20.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3739
23:24.55thesingnight all.
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23:32.39dmfreyHey sakoman.  This libshout package, I believe, cannot find the audiofile library.  This is in the openembedded packages and it is built.  What I am not quite sure of is how to tell libshout where to find it at.
23:38.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 1383 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch>
23:38.06cdbot2* * packages ztenv and libeb
23:38.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1383
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