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00:00.21hrw|goneHappy New Year SpeedEvil then ;)
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00:04.23CoreDumpHappy New Year hrw|gone & e-ffi
00:09.17NineXhrw|gone: !topic
00:09.37NineXhappy new beer!!! to all
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00:15.06likewiseHappy New Year
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00:37.13RPHappy New Year!
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00:57.18HopsNBarleyhey likewise - happy new year (not for me yet, though :0)
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05:35.28Crofton|homehrw|gone, it wa your first Christmas with your family :)
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08:37.28gremlin[it]morning all and happy new year !
08:58.27CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rcbd73e46... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs):
08:58.27CIA-35gnome-mplayer: Add a decent, clean GTK+ frontend for MPlayer.
08:58.27CIA-35* This one is targetted at simple, clean, yet functional UI and
08:58.27CIA-35low deps (recently deps to libgnomeui and crap was removed). Obviously,
08:58.27CIA-35its UI doesn't contain any PDA-unfriendly elements.
08:58.28CIA-35* Angstrom has just got *the* mediaplayer!
08:58.34CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r92616a5d... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS.txt: Don't forget to RFC ipaq-sleep fix.
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10:58.10zimbatmI'm trying to build automake on a custom machine. Apparently, it needs libtool-cross, which cannot compile because it can't find "Automake/Struct.pm". How do you get out of such situation ?
11:04.23CoreDumpI'd try installing the -dev package providing Struct.pm on the build machine
11:04.59CoreDumpthe -native and -cross stuff has certain expectations on what is installed on the build machine
11:08.08cyrilRomainmorning all
11:08.14cyrilRomainand Happy new year !
11:12.37RPmorning all
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11:12.47zimbatmhm CoreDump, do you mean it's into one of the "ASSUME_PROVIDED"
11:12.57zimbatmindeed, happy new year :)
11:13.04cyrilRomainzimbatm: installing automake on your build machine should indeed get out out that situation
11:13.05CoreDumpRP: morning all
11:13.34CoreDumpzimbatm: no, I mean you should install the -dev package (rpm, deb, whatever) onto your buildmachine
11:13.44cyrilRomainzimbatm: I wouldn't use ASSUME_PROVIDED too much and use the oe -native package (mainly because of package version used)
11:13.50CoreDumpwhichever package provides Struct.pm
11:14.36zimbatmactually, automake-1.10 is already installed on the build machine
11:14.41cyrilRomainCoreDump: hmm should automake be added to the required software ? or should libtool-cross looks into libtool-native built for Struct.pm ?
11:15.24zimbatmcyrilRomain, what are the -native packages ?
11:16.04cyrilRomainzimbatm: hmm strange then. Mine is located in '/usr/share/automake-1.10/Automake/Struct.pm' on Gentoo, but as CoreDump said on your ditro you may have to install automake-dev package
11:16.23CoreDumpIf Struct.pm is already staged by a -native package, it should obviously used. If it too early in the build for that, then we need to install it on the host
11:16.41cyrilRomainzimbatm: -native packages are the packages built by OE for your build machine
11:17.55zimbatmokay
11:19.13zimbatmthere is no -dev package on debian but the automake package provides the file : /usr/share/automake-1.10/Automake/Struct.pm
11:19.34zimbatmI'll try the -native
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11:42.46SyNkohi there
11:47.10xjqianI have a weird error: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
11:47.25xjqianpointing to a specific line: solink=`echo $baselibfile | sed -e 's/\.so\..*/.so/'`
11:48.48xjqianhowever there is no problem for the earlier incidences of the exact line in run.do_configure
11:49.20xjqianI suspect there is something wrong with recent updates on my host?
11:50.17xjqianany idea what could be wrong?
11:54.48CoreDumpxjqian: the error might be in another line
11:55.14CoreDumptry cutting and pasting the offending line into a shell and check if you can reproduce the problem
11:55.47xjqiani tryied that line, there is no problem
11:56.04xjqianthe only possibility is in another line
11:56.06CIA-3503rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rffd5dadc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb): linux-rp-2.6.23: Fix the asoc patch for poodle, make 2.6.23 the default version for qemuarm and qemux86
11:56.21xjqian<PROTECTED>
11:56.46xjqianCoreDump: could you try to build uicmoc-native-2.3.10
11:57.40CoreDumpsure, give me a minute
11:59.29xjqianbtw, are we moving to DISTRO=  "angstrom-2008.1" or sticking with "angstrom-2007.1" for now?
12:00.05cyrilRomainxjqian: otherwise in a new terminal, go to the uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4/temp directory, and copy-paste lines from run.do_configure into the shell
12:00.55cyrilRomainxjqian: it's painfull but you will be able to see what's wrong
12:01.47xjqiancryilRomain: I did that, it works fine
12:02.01CoreDumpNOTE: package uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r4: task do_build: completed
12:03.02xjqianemm, interesting. error goes away with  commenting out # INHERIT += "packaged-staging2"
12:03.17cyrilRomainxjqian: huh :[
12:04.10CoreDumpah
12:04.19CoreDumpthere's your problem then
12:04.32CoreDumpsome error in packaged-staging2.bbclass
12:08.14xjqianit's weird that offending line is in oe_soinstall()
12:08.49xjqiannot anywhere near the packaged-stating
12:09.17CoreDumpprobably some generated script-foo
12:13.11xjqianI can reproduce it that the ERROR only happens with INHERIT += "packaged-staging2"
12:13.46xjqianso it's possible the line# reported by error is bogus
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12:17.12xjqianark, found it. indeed a typo uicmoc-native_2.3.10.bb in and spotted by staging_packager() in a different linenumber
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12:48.54cyrilRomainpolyonymous: hi! why did you set default preference of -1 for qemu_0.9.0+cvs.bb ? is qemu broken when built with gcc4.x ?
12:51.29polyonymouscyrilRomain, I don't think we have mine qemu 0.9.0 in OE now, but anyway (1) yes, the one *I* added was broken for some host archs and (2) yes, it's broken when built with gcc3 as far as I remember.
12:52.09cyrilRomainpolyonymous: ok thanks
12:52.15polyonymousnp
12:52.38cyrilRomainpolyonymous: I asked because user with only gcc4 installed on their system makes qemu-native fails to build
12:53.14cyrilRomainpolyonymous: and since a gcc4 patch exists .. but I didn't know it's broken
12:54.15polyonymousWell, I'm not sure if it's broken at compile-time, I don't remember. But it is broken.
12:54.25CIA-3503xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r93692aaa... 10/ (1 packages/uicmoc/uicmoc-native_2.3.10.bb): uicmoc-native_2.3.10: fix typo
12:54.45cyrilRomainpolyonymous: do you have a working local qemu that can build with gcc4 ?
12:55.00polyonymousI doubt one exists
12:55.04cyrilRomain:-/
12:55.22polyonymousI have gcc3 for that purpose
12:55.46cyrilRomainyeah me too, but having gcc3 _only_ for qemu :[
12:55.57polyonymousthat's life.
12:56.21polyonymoussorry, I'm stepping away now...
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13:24.07zimbatmby compiling libtool-cross, I get : "error: C compiler cannot create executables"
13:24.25zimbatmdoes it mean that gcc was not found ?
13:24.43zimbatmI have posted the config.log here : http://rafb.net/p/UyyRrL79.html
13:26.29CoreDumpi686-linux-gcc: No such file or directory
13:26.37SyNkoHey men, did somebody allready compiled a slugosbe for nslu2 on *bsd ?
13:26.58SyNkoim taking problems with bitbake and the mastermakefile
13:29.23zimbatmCoreDump, shouldn't it be compiled as a dependency or is it a "-native" package again ?
13:30.16CoreDumpyou need a compiler on the box to build the -native compiler ;)
13:30.52zimbatmdamned :-p
13:31.06zimbatmlol
13:31.46zimbatmnormally, I do have all the stuff. how long did it took you until all this wasn't confusing anymore ?
13:32.16CoreDumpquite some time ;)
13:32.26CoreDumpzimbatm: have a look at http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro
13:34.02zimbatmthx, I'm ok here. I think I've read openembedded.org/*
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13:34.26zimbatmunder debian it's easy anyway, there is the openembedded-essential meta-package
13:34.32CoreDumpyr
13:34.35CoreDumpyep
13:35.36zimbatmI think my error was to directly jump in my own machine and distro file.. I'll start with x86/generic to better understand the system
13:37.03zimbatmCoreDump, on what part of OE do you work ?
13:37.36CoreDumpmainly angstrom stuff, it varies
13:37.46zimbatmall that compilation gives some time to chat on irc :p
13:38.00zimbatmare you paid for that ?
13:38.22SyNkok, so speaking about devolope nslu2 oe firm :)
13:38.38CoreDumpheh I wish =) No, it's a hobby. I like embedded hacking, that's all
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13:39.11CoreDumpSyNko: I have no idea if it is supposed to work on *bsd
13:39.13zimbatmsame here but I'm still new in the field :)
13:39.37SyNkok, so.. im gonna do it
13:39.50zimbatmSyNko, isn't there a nslu2 channel maybe ?
13:39.58CoreDumpI've build nslu2-be recently, yes. No problems.
13:40.16SyNkobut it's full of noobs :)
13:40.25SyNkoi would ask in the roots
13:40.50SyNkonow im gonna porting the required apps for oe on bsd
13:41.12SyNkobit bake is working
13:41.29CoreDumpI guess running linux in a vm would be faster ,)
13:41.40zimbatmSyNko, the following page talks about FreeBSD : http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro
13:41.50SyNkogreaT!
13:42.07SyNko:( ive just read
13:42.18SyNkok, this is the way!
13:42.47SyNkoim gonna make gnu patch, ty .. see yah later
13:45.08zimbatmCoreDump, do you know the elphel cameras ?
13:45.30CoreDumpnever heard of them
13:46.11zimbatmcheck out : http://www3.elphel.com/index.php
13:46.44zimbatmit's a network camera which uses a FPGA for fast image processing
13:47.12zimbatmtheir distro sucks so I'm trying to port OE :)
13:48.21zimbatmI hope OE already has some etrax CPU support
13:50.20CoreDumpdude, these things are bloody expensive
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13:53.00zimbatmyes, I think the FPGA counts for the half of the price but I don't care, I got one for free :)
13:53.17CoreDumplol, nice howl
13:53.29zimbatmhowl ?
13:53.31CoreDumphaul
13:53.58CoreDumpcatch, whatever
13:54.06zimbatm.. checking the dict
13:54.11zimbatm:)
13:55.29zimbatmactually the cheaper "axis" cameras use the same cpu but they don't have the same resolutions and fps
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13:59.54CoreDumpgod I hate slow downloads
14:00.40SyNkotorrent? :)
14:01.11zimbatmin the same idea, I'd like a P2P mulit-arch compilation network
14:01.13CoreDumpworse, recursive wget
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16:22.12CIA-3503coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rbc99dc2d... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): gpsd: Provide working default configuration and init-script for fic-gta01. This makes gpsd device-specific for gta01, please check the feeds.
16:22.17CIA-3503coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r32469c96... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): navit: Fix navit.xml to search for the proper library extensions
16:22.23CIA-3503coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r774bfc5b... 10/ (1 packages/speechd packages/speechd/speechd_0.56.bb): speechd: Add speechd for navit (untested)
16:22.28CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.angstrom-2007.12-stable * r728de5e7... 10/ (1 BACKPORTS.txt): BACKPORTS.txt: Ok, meld sucks at merging. Let's try sth else next time.
16:28.56hrwmorning
16:31.25Crofton|homegm
16:31.47hrwhow was new yar party?
16:32.14Crofton|homegood
16:32.29Crofton|homesaw several people from out of town and their new kids
16:32.53hrwnice
16:33.01Crofton|homeyeah, quiet
16:34.39hrwI found new use for my cellphone
16:35.05hrwbt + hid profile == nice remote for desktop (useful during watching tv)
16:39.18CoreDumphrw: yep, I did that until I got a real remote for the notebook =)
16:39.51CoreDumpthe svn fetcher  is a pain
16:40.03CoreDumphow do I always fetch the lastest version?
16:40.25hrwSRCREV = "${AUTOREV}" + bitbake patch
16:40.42CoreDumpugh
16:43.28hrwI got nice movie to test video on pdas ;)
16:43.43hrwVIDEO:  [XVID]  1920x800  12bpp  23.976 fps  4946.9 kbps (603.9 kbyte/s)
16:45.11CoreDump=D
16:45.25CoreDumptell me when you find a PDA playing _that_ smoothly
16:45.39hrwor at all :D
16:46.01CoreDumphehe
16:48.58hrwand I wonder will Ania laptop be able to play that :D
16:49.18hrwtwo reasons: 1. ms windows 2. celeron mobile
16:49.25CoreDumpgood luck
16:49.48hrwprobably we will watch it on my desktop
16:49.58CoreDumpI can play these movies on my dualcore just fine, the old centrino always sucked at that res
16:50.39hrwok, I go
16:50.41hrwbye
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17:56.20CIA-3503coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r0d9bd56d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-apps: Add openmoko-gps by Lucas Bonnet
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19:11.31CoreDumpheh
19:17.53flo_lapre
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19:40.03pb_hi flo_lap
19:40.22flo_laphi pb_
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20:08.32zimbatmthe AUTHOR meta is intended for the .bb author, or the project's source author ?
20:09.40CoreDumpgood one
20:11.27CoreDumpI would believe it is for the projects author but can't find anything about that in the OE manual
20:12.32zimbatmI would say the .bb file, so that you can easily contact the .bb author if it fails
20:12.49zimbatmI'm grepping the packages to find the common usage
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20:13.58CoreDumpno
20:14.14CoreDumpthat's what the MAINTAINER file is for
20:14.26CoreDumpand before that, we had a MAINTAINER variable
20:14.28hrwauthor is upstream author
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20:16.15zimbatmthx
20:16.40hrwAUTHOR[doc] = "The author of the files installed."
20:16.52hrwconf/documentation.conf
20:16.57CoreDumpdoh =)
20:16.58zimbatmit matches what I've found with grep. for example libsndfile's AUTHOR is attributed to the package's author
20:17.02zimbatm=)
20:17.50zimbatmthe variable is not often used : grep -r "AUTHOR =" . | wc
20:17.56zimbatm<PROTECTED>
20:18.42zimbatm127, where half of the files are different version of a package
20:18.58zimbatmjust for the info. :)
20:19.14hrwI am trying to add it when create new recipe
20:19.18CoreDumpusually HOMEPAGE is better IMO
20:19.29CoreDumppoints one to the project w/o any searching
20:20.14zimbatmyes, giving the credits to one person is often wrong, like if linux.bb's AUTHOR would be Linus Thorwalds
20:20.29CoreDumphehe
20:21.03hrwbut if project is one person...
20:21.19zimbatmbitbake's pastelog command is broken on the 1.8 svn branch. is it a known issue ?
20:21.31zimbatmhrw, yes it happens too
20:24.11hrwzimbatm: whole interactive shell is broken
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21:01.13zimbatmhrw: good to know, sry for the delay
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21:59.22CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb3426398... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gnome-mplayer: Of course, we need MPlayer itself.
21:59.29CIA-3503pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7c47cd53... 10/ (30 files in 3 dirs): qemu: Add 0.9.0+cvs20071121 from Poky. DEF_PREF = -1.
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