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| 07:50.45 | gilligan_ | morning |
| 07:58.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3301 has been created by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu |
| 07:58.06 | cdbot2 | * * sqlite3_3.4.1 : source tarball is no longer available |
| 07:58.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 |
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| 08:02.13 | gilligan_ | hrm |
| 08:03.24 | gilligan_ | I can build expat just fine via `bitbake expat`, but when I add it to my image then do_rootfs fails: "Cannot find package expat" |
| 08:03.43 | gilligan_ | yet it is in the deploy directory |
| 08:03.54 | gilligan_ | does anyone have any idea what's going on there? |
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| 08:22.40 | gilligan_ | anyone here generating an image that includes expat? |
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| 08:38.26 | koen | gilligan_: expat is a library |
| 08:38.36 | koen | gilligan_: if you need it, include a program that links to it |
| 08:40.36 | gilligan_ | koen: oh.. I had no idea about that.. well I did know that its a library, but I didn't know that you'd have to handle libraries like that.. why is that the case? |
| 08:40.56 | koen | because including libs without programs makes no sense |
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| 08:41.30 | koen | and it's not like you are going to LD_PRELOAD libexpat :) |
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| 08:43.58 | gilligan_ | koen: can't quite agree on that.. one might want to prepare an image providing certain libraries knowing that they will be needed later on. Which is exactly the case for me right now. In the end a package is a package is a package.. so i find it odd that you can't just install a library like you install any other package to an image |
| 08:44.33 | koen | "if they are needed later on" implies you are going to install a package |
| 08:44.43 | koen | which would pull in the libs automagically |
| 08:45.28 | gilligan_ | no.. you don't quite get the scenario here |
| 08:45.42 | hrw | morning |
| 08:45.49 | koen | hey hrw |
| 08:46.24 | gilligan_ | i am preparing images or rather dev boards for some other developers that don't have the slightest clue about OE.. so what they need/want ideally is a system with everything installed that's required for their stuff |
| 08:46.57 | gilligan_ | now i have to install some random package requiring expat just for the sake of having expat installed |
| 08:47.36 | koen | I suspect you aren't going to ship the feed OE generates with the BSP? |
| 08:50.02 | gilligan_ | koen: i haven't thought about that.. I was hoping i could just put together an image with all requirements i've been given that just-works(TM) ;] |
| 08:51.01 | gilligan_ | koen: and as my company has very strict firewall rules fetching via angstrom feed won't work |
| 08:51.22 | koen | just put deploy/ipk on CD or something |
| 08:52.12 | gilligan_ | is it a necessity that libraries can't be installed on their own or has that just been introduced as a rule? |
| 08:53.04 | koen | they can be installed on their own in a bit of an awkward way |
| 08:53.25 | koen | since there isn't a use-case for it that makes sense |
| 08:53.41 | jeremy_laine | hello! |
| 08:54.29 | jeremy_laine | are there any devs more involved in python packaging than others? |
| 08:55.06 | koen | only mickeyl is involved in python packaging :) |
| 08:55.14 | koen | the rest of us just bitch about it |
| 08:55.58 | jeremy_laine | ah.. ok :) |
| 08:56.09 | gilligan_ | koen: any linux distribution allows for installation of libraries on their own.. simply because you might want to do something that's not part of the packaging system hence won't lead to automatic installation of the library |
| 08:56.42 | gilligan_ | koen: not saying "any linux distrib" == OE.. just trying to make my point clear somehow |
| 08:56.45 | gilligan_ | brb |
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| 09:22.26 | gilligan_ | koen: okay.. so i didn't know about that library handling which explains about expat.. but now i'm having probs with net-snmp .. building the package works fine, but including it in my image bitbake reports "No buildable providers available" |
| 09:24.08 | CIA-32 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7bd7c5bb... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/includes/config.inc): feed-browser: start adding a machine -> arch map |
| 09:24.50 | hrw | koen: merging your hacks^Wwork? |
| 09:25.12 | gilligan_ | koen: nevermind.. seems i have to specify net-snmp-client |
| 09:25.34 | koen | hrw: merging the extra vars |
| 09:25.52 | koen | hrw: I can't merge the rest since angstrom isn't using the 'type' field yet |
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| 09:29.23 | hrw | I wonder will I get time one day and rewrite it totally |
| 09:30.37 | Bernardo | hi |
| 09:32.03 | hrw | hi Bernardo |
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| 09:36.04 | antvr | hello |
| 09:36.11 | antvr | ph5 is not there now ? |
| 09:36.21 | antvr | he committed some changes to wifi-radar |
| 09:36.34 | antvr | but now launching from the console fails |
| 09:36.54 | antvr | import gtk, gobject |
| 09:37.01 | antvr | cannot find module gtkų |
| 09:37.07 | antvr | gtk |
| 09:37.09 | antvr | ??? |
| 09:37.35 | antvr | it's at the end of /sbin/wifi-radar |
| 09:37.54 | antvr | will try later, now have to work ! |
| 09:37.56 | antvr | See ya |
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| 10:05.43 | hrw | ~lart koen badly |
| 10:05.43 | ibot | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats koen badly until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 10:05.52 | hrw | 11:04 hrw@home:openmoko$ grep kernel-modules packages/images/* |
| 10:05.53 | hrw | packages/images/x11-gpe-image.bb: kernel-modules \ |
| 10:05.53 | hrw | packages/images/x11-office-image.bb: kernel-modules \ |
| 10:05.53 | hrw | packages/images/x11-pimlico-image.bb: kernel-modules \ |
| 10:06.01 | hrw | WHY? |
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| 10:06.42 | koen | because those are the 'big' images |
| 10:06.52 | hrw | really? |
| 10:07.00 | hrw | I wanted one of them on tosa |
| 10:07.09 | hrw | tosa does not have 26M for rootfs |
| 10:07.21 | koen | so use x11-image |
| 10:07.41 | koen | or create another image :) |
| 10:07.42 | hrw | I do not want bare x11-image |
| 10:09.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3302 has been created by tobias.pflug(AT)gmx.net |
| 10:09.06 | cdbot2 | * * expat fails to install to image |
| 10:09.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3302 |
| 10:09.10 | hrw | mtn rename x11-gpe-image.bb x11-gpe-all-kernel-modules-image.bb;sed -e 's/kernel-modules//' x11-gpe-all-kernel-modules-image.bb> x11-gpe-image.bb; ;mtn add x11-gpe-image.bb;mtn commit . -m"x11-gpe-image: unbreak Koen thinking";mtpush |
| 10:09.17 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3302 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by tobias.pflug(AT)gmx.net |
| 10:09.19 | cdbot2 | * * expat fails to install to image |
| 10:09.21 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3302 |
| 10:09.29 | XorA | developer handbag fight :-D |
| 10:09.29 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3303 has been created by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu |
| 10:09.31 | cdbot2 | * * python-crypt 2.5 has an incorrect FILES definition |
| 10:09.32 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3303 |
| 10:09.51 | hrw | I 'love' how those images look.. |
| 10:10.06 | hrw | pimlico image which gets hal (not used) |
| 10:12.55 | hrw | 21M sounds better |
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| 10:19.25 | koen_ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/2031247323/in/pool-565582@N21/ |
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| 10:26.52 | hrw | nice |
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| 10:33.57 | koen__ | you can even see a zaurus in that picture :) |
| 10:36.07 | RP | koen: That isn't messy, you should see mine ;-) |
| 10:36.36 | koen | :) |
| 10:37.03 | rwhitby | RP: want to add a Poky on Android howto on www.android-internals.org ? |
| 10:40.09 | koen | "DalvikVM is ~28x slower than optimized C (for this particular test), |
| 10:40.09 | koen | while the JDK interpreter is ~40x slower." |
| 10:45.55 | CM | koen: Where? :) |
| 10:46.11 | koen | http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/msg/69729d17c013452f?dmode=source |
| 10:46.22 | CM | Thanks |
| 10:46.51 | hrw | speed kills |
| 10:57.26 | hrw | http://dag.wieers.com/blog/content/obex-for-dummies |
| 11:00.33 | koen | hrw: we have gnome-vfs-obexftp for that in OE |
| 11:01.07 | hrw | only IF application use gnomevfs |
| 11:01.35 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5fc01752... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): sqlite: added 3.4.2 from Poky - close #3301 |
| 11:01.49 | hrw | fsck.. I killed that rev locally |
| 11:01.51 | koen | and fuse only works as root and your kernel supports fuse |
| 11:02.29 | hrw | looks like I need to merge 3.5.2 now |
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| 11:14.30 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbabd6607... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): sqlite3: upgrade to 3.5.2 - now really close #3301 |
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| 11:17.23 | hrw | http://spluch.blogspot.com/2007/11/toilet-themed-restaurant.html |
| 11:21.00 | hrw | koen: btw - why not use koen@ltg as email? |
| 11:23.02 | jeremy_laine | hrw: thanks for sqlite3 |
| 11:23.26 | hrw | I had it locally |
| 11:23.55 | jeremy_laine | I wasn't sure whether we'd want to stay at 3.4.1 to avoid possible breakeage or whether upgrading to 3.5.2 was an option |
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| 11:25.09 | jeremy_laine | what timezone is mickeyl on? |
| 11:25.20 | hrw | CET |
| 11:25.39 | jeremy_laine | OK, will try to get hold of him for some python bugfixes |
| 11:26.12 | koen | hrw: because that adds half a day to mail delivery due to greylisting storm |
| 11:26.46 | nik0n_ | i know this isnt the right channel to ask, but on linux 2.6 i can link a cpio archive directly into the kernel, does the 2.4 series kernel provide a similar feature? or a patch that adds this feature? |
| 11:30.32 | hrw | ~hail lumag for 2.6.23 |
| 11:30.33 | ibot | ACTION bows down to lumag for 2.6.23 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 11:31.18 | koen | hrw: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24#head-e1c064a53027501a877ab807c99ad455cc0cf248 would be nice for people using flash + sd/cf |
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| 11:33.56 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/774732 is sweet |
| 11:38.17 | hrw | koen: indeed |
| 11:38.21 | koen | hrw: your madwifi rfc sounds like a good idea |
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| 11:42.13 | hrw | I got hit by it with alix |
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| 12:23.00 | koen | dpkg-deb: building package `libglib-2.0-locale-de' in `/OE/build/tmp-new/angstrom/deploy/glibc/deb/armv5te/libglib-2.0-locale-de_2.14.0-r2_arm.deb'. |
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| 12:24.13 | xjqian | where do I define psplash=false? |
| 12:24.33 | koen | in the kernel CMDLINE |
| 12:24.48 | CIA-32 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7a2606dc... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-intermediate_2.7.bb): glibc-intermediate: first stab at a recipe for 2.7 |
| 12:25.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3301 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 12:25.06 | cdbot2 | * * sqlite3_3.4.1 : source tarball is no longer available |
| 12:25.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 |
| 12:25.22 | xjqian | koen: specifically, which file for tosa |
| 12:25.35 | koen | there are multiple files :) |
| 12:25.48 | koen | tosa.conf, linux-rp.inc, linux-rp_2.6.23.bb, etc |
| 12:26.34 | xjqian | old problem, the tosa x11-image won't boot past the last 2% of the Angstrom splash screen |
| 12:27.07 | xjqian | I remember this was solved before by disabling the psplash |
| 12:27.21 | koen | I doubt that |
| 12:27.56 | koen | the 'fix' people reported was 'disable psplash ; start X by hand' |
| 12:27.59 | koen | which is not a fix |
| 12:28.29 | xjqian | you are right. disable psplash was suggested by hrw |
| 12:28.43 | xjqian | but I don't know how it was fixed later |
| 12:28.56 | koen | I'd be more interested in the X log attached to a bug report :) |
| 12:29.18 | koen | I'm 99% sure it's a gpe problem which can be solved quite easily |
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| 12:32.14 | koen | -rw-r--r-- 1 koen koen 8292929 Nov 15 13:28 Angstrom-console-image-glibc-deb-2008.1-test-20071115-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 12:32.16 | koen | sweet |
| 12:32.57 | koen | ~hail openened hand for their .deb work in OE |
| 12:32.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to openened hand for their .deb work in OE and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 12:33.30 | koen | I wonder how hard it would be to get packageKit working in OE for package_deb.bbclass |
| 12:34.26 | xjqian | wait... sorry, it boots after reset |
| 12:34.34 | stefan_schmidt | koen: If I disable the manual autogen.sh call in the navit recipe do_configure breaks: http://nopaste.com/p/aTswA77wj Seen before? |
| 12:34.45 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I'll have a look at the autogen.sh file |
| 12:37.09 | koen | stefan_schmidt: I've seen it before |
| 12:37.17 | koen | it's called 'broken autotools usage' :( |
| 12:37.24 | stefan_schmidt | koen: hmm, it just calls autoreconf |
| 12:37.28 | stefan_schmidt | koen: http://navit.cvs.sourceforge.net/navit/navit/autogen.sh?view=markup |
| 12:39.36 | koen | what is inside the intl/Makefile.in when running autoreconf? |
| 12:40.55 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Good question, let me check |
| 12:41.03 | koen | stefan_schmidt: EXTRA_AUTORECONF = " -I m4" |
| 12:41.05 | koen | try that |
| 12:41.07 | hrw | xjqian: The OpenMoko Distribution -- powered by Angstrom tosa ttyS0 |
| 12:43.59 | xjqian | hrw: what do you mean? |
| 12:46.11 | stefan_schmidt | koen: Congrats, that was the trick |
| 12:46.26 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I clean it up a bit more |
| 12:46.40 | koen | stefan_schmidt: run it thru oe-stylize.py |
| 12:46.54 | hrw | xjqian: ops - had you nick written during paste |
| 12:46.59 | hrw | sorry |
| 12:48.06 | gilligan_ | hm.. i am trying to package mod_python which currently fails building because `mod_include.h` is missing. I think that file should be part of apache2-dev ? I added apache2 and apache2-native to DEPENDS.. anyone got any hints for me? |
| 12:48.12 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 12:50.48 | koen | gilligan_: you need to add a do_stage() {} method to the apache2 recipe |
| 12:51.44 | drmikecrowe | Hey folks, do we have anybody in the South Carolina area of the US? |
| 12:53.00 | gilligan_ | koen: in which I then install the header files? |
| 12:54.46 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/11/15/2623-on-tosa/ |
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| 13:00.47 | gilligan_ | koen: so what is the standard procedure with the installation of headers? is apache2 "missing" header installation or ... |
| 13:01.03 | steliosk | drmikecrowe : Crofton is in Virginia Tech if i remember correctly |
| 13:01.53 | drmikecrowe | steliosk: Sounds good. We have just released a device we want ported to OE, and I'm looking for (reasonably local) resources |
| 13:02.24 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r49e3b25c... 10/ (8 files in 8 dirs): base-files: disable /dev/mmcda1 for all Zaurus machines - we use 2.6 not 2.4 |
| 13:02.33 | hrw | drmikecrowe: what type of device? |
| 13:02.42 | drmikecrowe | hrw: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5936183381.html |
| 13:02.57 | hrw | drmikecrowe: which one |
| 13:03.32 | drmikecrowe | hwr -- doh, the Zipit instant messenger |
| 13:03.39 | B_Lizzard | Ok, asking again about that issue with dependancies and things gone missing. |
| 13:03.42 | drmikecrowe | I thought that link took you to ours |
| 13:04.00 | hrw | drmikecrowe: this link is top10 gadgets |
| 13:04.05 | B_Lizzard | I want to post a bug report, though it seems strange that so many applications would be uncleanly removed. |
| 13:04.07 | drmikecrowe | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5942157201.html |
| 13:04.41 | hrw | drmikecrowe: whic wifi chipset did you used? |
| 13:04.47 | drmikecrowe | Marvel |
| 13:04.54 | steliosk | drmikecrowe : i think there is some "preliminary" support for the zipit, as i was looking at it for a project a week ago |
| 13:05.04 | hrw | drmikecrowe: 8385 or other? |
| 13:05.13 | Crofton | I only help people in SC if they vote for Stephen Colbert .... |
| 13:05.16 | drmikecrowe | hrw -- I need to look at the schematic |
| 13:05.18 | Crofton | where in SC? |
| 13:05.26 | drmikecrowe | Crofton: Yeah, I'm going to for him just for giggles |
| 13:05.31 | drmikecrowe | Greenville |
| 13:05.34 | Crofton | awesome |
| 13:05.44 | Crofton | Home of George Hincapie |
| 13:05.50 | Crofton | I have family in Charleston |
| 13:05.52 | drmikecrowe | steliosk: That was the old revision based on the Cirrus Logic arm. |
| 13:06.02 | drmikecrowe | Awesome area, I love it down there |
| 13:06.11 | stefan_schmidt | koen: What is about this one? http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3299#c2 |
| 13:06.32 | steliosk | drmikecrowe : Crofton is your man |
| 13:07.02 | Crofton | what are we talking |
| 13:07.07 | drmikecrowe | Crofton: Mind if I pm you? |
| 13:07.11 | Crofton | sure |
| 13:08.33 | hrw | drmikecrowe: mini-sd instead of microsd? |
| 13:08.43 | drmikecrowe | hrw: yeah |
| 13:08.44 | hrw | drmikecrowe: any discounts for developers? :D |
| 13:09.02 | drmikecrowe | hrw: For the right ones, you bet |
| 13:09.18 | Crofton | zipit, Aeronix? |
| 13:09.35 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I also got the confirmation that -fPIC can just be removed. |
| 13:11.08 | koen | openzipit.org ha(d)(s) some OE files, but the dude was extremely uninterested in getting it into OE |
| 13:11.08 | hrw | koen: it was for Z1 |
| 13:13.25 | koen | right |
| 13:15.24 | stefan_schmidt | koen: If you are fine with this version of the recipe I would push it. http://nopaste.com/p/a6BCKZdos |
| 13:15.40 | koen | stefan_schmidt: fix the PV first |
| 13:15.53 | koen | 0.0.2 is the latest release |
| 13:15.57 | koen | not 0.0.3 |
| 13:16.12 | stefan_schmidt | koen: grr, right. Overseen that |
| 13:16.19 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/versioningpolicy |
| 13:18.08 | steliosk | koen,crofton,florian,mickeyl : I talked to zecke yesterday and as he is swamped with work, we decided to take over the matter of refunds for the travel expenses, so i would appreciate if you could send me all the invoices you have for refund at skoroneos at digital-opsis dot com |
| 13:19.15 | florian | steliosk: oh, ok - yes, i'll do this - do you want a scan/pdf or whatever from the original one? |
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| 13:19.38 | stefan_schmidt | koen: NOTE: package navit-0.0.2+cvs20071115: completed |
| 13:19.46 | steliosk | florian : a pdf would be fine |
| 13:21.23 | hrw | ~change 150 usd to eur |
| 13:21.28 | antvr | hallo |
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| 13:21.50 | ynezz | ~30 :p |
| 13:21.59 | florian | hi antvr |
| 13:22.09 | hrw | 100 eur + 22% vat + posting |
| 13:22.19 | hrw | 150 eur probably |
| 13:22.35 | antvr | hi florian |
| 13:22.56 | antvr | hi stefan_schmidt |
| 13:23.08 | antvr | BTW did you compile speechd |
| 13:23.12 | antvr | ? |
| 13:23.16 | antvr | for navit |
| 13:23.32 | antvr | wifi-radar also uses it |
| 13:23.36 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: Not yet |
| 13:23.41 | antvr | we already have flite |
| 13:23.51 | antvr | is it enough or do we need festival |
| 13:23.55 | antvr | bloat |
| 13:23.56 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: I like to start with a working supset |
| 13:24.05 | antvr | i agree 100% |
| 13:24.11 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: I not even tried it on my laptop with specchd |
| 13:24.19 | stefan_schmidt | speechd |
| 13:24.26 | steliosk | hrw : the way the dollar falls even the bot has problems to do the calculations :) |
| 13:24.53 | koen | any amount in dollars is approx 0.10GBP |
| 13:25.02 | koen | we established that at ELC2007 |
| 13:25.25 | antvr | stefan, about GPS, did you note they released Gpsdrive 2.10pre4 ? |
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| 13:26.05 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: No, but I never was happy with GPSdrive. I like real routing, not only showing maps. |
| 13:26.10 | antvr | on my Zaurus c7x0 the actual 2.10pre2 shows somes gtk glitches... |
| 13:26.26 | antvr | If you happen to have time...thanks in advance! |
| 13:27.05 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: ATM my GPS interest is navit only. |
| 13:27.17 | antvr | I agree it's the only REAL app |
| 13:27.57 | antvr | but 2 days ago I was driving from Italy trough CH till Frankfurt and Gpsdrive was better than nothing! |
| 13:28.25 | antvr | on the Alps it shows aprecision of 1,6 meters |
| 13:28.30 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: There are still roadster and roadnav. But navit plays with some bought maps which gives you a nice experience if your country is not covered by OSM/TIGER |
| 13:28.32 | koen | maemo-mapper rocks |
| 13:28.53 | stefan_schmidt | koen: But also only map showing. Or did they changed that? |
| 13:29.05 | koen | it does routing thru google maps |
| 13:29.13 | antvr | and it did not build on c7x0 on my last try |
| 13:29.24 | stefan_schmidt | koen: With the fixed version fine to push? |
| 13:29.27 | koen | it gets a .gpx file with instructions from the web |
| 13:29.35 | koen | stefan_schmidt: yes, push it |
| 13:29.40 | stefan_schmidt | koen: That means network connection... |
| 13:29.59 | koen | stefan_schmidt: yeah, or downloading a bunch of gpx files :) |
| 13:30.07 | stefan_schmidt | koen: It is cool for now, but I like to see real navigation in the future. |
| 13:30.10 | koen | but I have flatrate gprs in .nl :) |
| 13:30.32 | stefan_schmidt | koen: And a country with full OSM data. :) |
| 13:30.58 | antvr | I'm waiting from Frosse Reiseplanner from Amazon.de |
| 13:31.09 | antvr | Grosse natürlich! |
| 13:31.10 | stefan_schmidt | koen: I also have a UMTS flat rate in .de, but sometimes I'm not in my home country. :) |
| 13:31.34 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: Yeah, I like to buy the newest one, too |
| 13:31.47 | antvr | I ordered the 2007/2008 with Italy |
| 13:32.05 | antvr | the 2008 only was A DE CH only |
| 13:33.11 | stefan_schmidt | antvr: I could live with that. ;) |
| 13:35.26 | antvr | costs some Eur less ! |
| 13:35.57 | antvr | BTW I think it's in German only |
| 13:36.10 | antvr | I can live with thath !!! |
| 13:37.05 | antvr | Hope to receive the DVD next week. Already shipped by Deutsche Post |
| 13:39.06 | mickeyl | koen: thanks for supporting me on e-devel |
| 13:39.10 | mickeyl | morning guys |
| 13:39.25 | stefan_schmidt | hey mickeyl |
| 13:39.38 | koen | mickeyl: I have too much exotic hardware on my desk :) |
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| 13:48.08 | XorA | koen: why did you bump openmoko-dialer2 to a broken version? |
| 13:48.19 | koen | XorA: I did? |
| 13:48.33 | XorA | koen: 3361, its no longer a singleton :-( |
| 13:48.37 | koen | I could have sworn I tested it on athe neo |
| 13:49.11 | gilligan_ | koen: sorry but I don't quite understand what I am supposed to do with staging the include file etc (mod_install.h / packaging mod_python etc) .. the include file is part of the apache2-dev package which however doesn't help during the build of mod_python |
| 13:49.32 | XorA | koen: and after OM announced 3306 was last working version until Thos finished his work :-D |
| 13:49.46 | koen | gilligan_: you must implement a do_stage() {} method for apache2 |
| 13:49.50 | koen | XorA: announced where? |
| 13:50.04 | XorA | openmoko-apps |
| 13:50.29 | koen | it was also announced that right-click was being fixed |
| 13:51.18 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:51.26 | gilligan_ | koen: which is exactly what you told me before and wich isn't exactly of much use for me because i am not sure what the function is supposed to do |
| 13:52.08 | mickeyl | speaking about that |
| 13:52.11 | mickeyl | | Collected errors: |
| 13:52.11 | mickeyl | | ERROR: The following packages conflict with openmoko-session2: |
| 13:52.11 | mickeyl | | matchbox-common |
| 13:52.27 | XorA | mickeyl: you need to mtn pull |
| 13:52.32 | gilligan_ | koen: just install the header(s) i need to ${STAGING_DIR} ? |
| 13:52.32 | mickeyl | again? |
| 13:52.34 | koen | and read the angstrom mailinglists |
| 13:53.03 | hrw | gilligan_: add do_stage() { autotools_stage_all } and test |
| 13:53.28 | XorA | mickeyl: we have a huge problem with RREPLACE, its pretty much a useless operation if more than one DISTRO builds from OE |
| 13:54.05 | gilligan_ | hrw: that was the first thing I did and it didn't change anything unfortunately |
| 13:54.33 | hrw | guys: native libs should have 'installed=yes' or 'no' in their .la files? |
| 13:55.13 | mickeyl | XorA: ah ok... ~lart ipkg |
| 13:55.32 | B_Lizzard | posted a crappy bug report about all those missing deps |
| 13:55.37 | XorA | mickeyl: we can do it as an openmoko only override I suppose |
| 13:55.59 | XorA | mickeyl: effectively saying openmoko will never use matchbox-common |
| 13:56.21 | mickeyl | XorA: that's ok for me. eventually we really have to clean all the x/wm stuff up a bit |
| 13:56.41 | mickeyl | it's too hard to support multiple window manager / desktop environment configurations in OE right now |
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| 13:57.03 | hrw | mickeyl: OE is just too matchbox oriented |
| 13:57.13 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:57.16 | mickeyl | we need to improve that a bit |
| 13:57.27 | XorA | danger of 90% of devs employed by OH :-D |
| 13:57.31 | mickeyl | still hoping we can drag some pdaXrom guys in |
| 13:57.40 | mickeyl | they have support for more than one wm |
| 13:57.58 | XorA | pdaXrom is slowly dieing so hope some come across, hope there isnt too much bad blood |
| 13:58.22 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:58.25 | koen | mickeyl: using another wm is real easy, just u-a x-window-manager |
| 13:58.47 | koen | gpe-session-scripts execs x-window-manager, not matchbox-wm |
| 13:59.06 | hrw | xjqian: framebuffer on tosa is better in 2.6.23 indeed |
| 13:59.13 | mickeyl | yeah, but matchbox-wm should come with its start script then |
| 13:59.34 | mickeyl | not having this in a seperate package that is shared by other managers |
| 13:59.37 | koen | mb-wm doesn't need a start script :) |
| 13:59.46 | mickeyl | oh it does need matchbox-common |
| 13:59.51 | mickeyl | which contains /usr/bin/matchbox-foo |
| 14:00.24 | mickeyl | and actually it doesn't really need matchbox-common. it runs fine with it when you suplpy /usr/bin/matchbox-foo |
| 14:00.24 | hrw | gpe-session-scripts, gpe-login, gpe-dm... |
| 14:00.32 | mickeyl | s/with/without/ |
| 14:00.35 | hrw | why OE is so gpe oriented too... |
| 14:00.47 | hrw | ;d |
| 14:00.49 | mickeyl | because gpe was the first X based environment |
| 14:00.55 | mickeyl | don't worry, we can fix that |
| 14:01.07 | koen | gpe-dm isn't actually gpe specific |
| 14:01.17 | hrw | it has gpe in name |
| 14:01.18 | mickeyl | koen: right. which makes me think it should be renamed :) |
| 14:01.36 | koen | I'm amazed o-hand didn't do their usual sed s:gpe:poky:g ; svn import routine yet |
| 14:02.23 | koen | mickeyl: matchbox-common only has matchbox-session in bindir, and mb-wm doesn't need that |
| 14:02.33 | robtaylor | wow, running lttng over startup is a bit of an eye-opener |
| 14:02.43 | mickeyl | koen: without this bindir, the wm doesn't start |
| 14:03.03 | mickeyl | since x-window-manager links to it |
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| 14:03.57 | mickeyl | ~hail zecke |
| 14:03.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:04.12 | mickeyl | :D |
| 14:04.59 | stefan_schmidt | XorA: Just use ion3 :D |
| 14:05.18 | XorA | stefan_schmidt: thats got a crapper name :-) |
| 14:05.29 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 14:05.33 | RP | matchbox-common was designed for use with matchbox-wm. If you want to replace mb-common, fine you need to ensure the replacement does everything mb-common does... |
| 14:05.37 | koen | mickeyl: ah, I see the problem |
| 14:06.24 | koen | the mb-wm recipe was doing something illegal |
| 14:06.33 | koen | u-a-ing to another package |
| 14:06.56 | koen | AFAIK in OE you're only allowed to u-a to yourself |
| 14:07.43 | RP | Just keep in mind mb has been in OE for a long time (really from before OH was around), its bound to need some cleanup :) |
| 14:08.19 | RP | koen: matchbox-session? |
| 14:08.26 | koen | yes |
| 14:09.36 | koen | RP: pushing the fixes now |
| 14:10.28 | RP | koen: I have a ton of bugfixes in Poky for nasty cross compiling path issues in Poky building up... |
| 14:11.04 | RP | koen: Removing the -L and -I options from bitbake.conf CFLAGS and LDFLAGS has let lots of bugs out the woodwork... |
| 14:11.11 | koen | well, I wanted to get those merged, but hrw said I should wait for the poky autobuilders or something |
| 14:11.27 | RP | koen: Feel free to merge, last night's autobuild worked |
| 14:11.29 | B_Lizzard | Eh |
| 14:11.33 | B_Lizzard | NOT ION3 |
| 14:11.42 | justri | hi all. is this the place for a newbie ? |
| 14:11.57 | B_Lizzard | Quick, run! |
| 14:12.26 | RP | justri: Depends what kind of newbie ;-) |
| 14:13.11 | justri | rp: i'm trying to compile lmsensors-apps, but it fails (no provider for libsysfs). ist this a known problem? |
| 14:13.44 | B_Lizzard | RP, probably what I'm trying to report. |
| 14:14.39 | B_Lizzard | !oebug 3304 |
| 14:14.41 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 3304, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-11-15 05:46 |
| 14:14.42 | cdbot2 | * * B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com: Bitbake complains about missing deps due to changes to the repo. |
| 14:14.43 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3304 |
| 14:14.50 | B_Lizzard | Probably not the best bug report ever. |
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| 14:15.48 | koen | RP: should I just merge the staging layout change, or send a mail to oe-devel first? |
| 14:16.18 | RP | koen: We need to prepare things first i.e. merge all the fixes from poky |
| 14:17.03 | gilligan_ | can I somehow add a compile flag to a package using autotools ? I need to manually add -I{STAGING_INCDIR} |
| 14:17.04 | RP | koen: OE will need a good sedding to remove references of things like ${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS} |
| 14:17.49 | hrw | justri: edit recipe and change libsysfs to sysfsutils |
| 14:17.54 | RP | B_Lizzard: It really needs some patches to fix things ;-) |
| 14:18.01 | hrw | justri: or wait 10 minutes and pull/update |
| 14:18.04 | B_Lizzard | yeah |
| 14:18.09 | Tartarus | hey all, is there something more up to date than http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/PackagedStaging? |
| 14:18.28 | RP | gilligan_: extend CFLAGS ? |
| 14:18.38 | hrw | gilligan_: EXTRA_CFLAGS += |
| 14:18.57 | justri | hrw: thanks a lot! |
| 14:19.16 | CIA-32 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re89c8857... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox-wm/matchbox-wm_1.2.bb): mb-wm: u-a to itself, not another package |
| 14:19.21 | CIA-32 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb21b578d... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox-common/matchbox-common_0.9.1.bb): mb-common: use u-a to make the link to x-wm, do not depend on mb-wm to do it |
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| 14:20.20 | gilligan_ | hrw: ah good.. will try that |
| 14:20.54 | B_Lizzard | RP: I can fix these, though it might take time :) |
| 14:21.28 | CIA-32 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r901d93e1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:21.28 | CIA-32 | openmoko-dialer2_svn.bb, sane-srcrevs.inc : 3306 really is the last |
| 14:21.28 | CIA-32 | working version of dialer for a while. |
| 14:22.50 | mickeyl | XorA: do we need to catch up in anything w/ the mb-wm and mb-common ow? |
| 14:22.54 | mickeyl | s/ow/now/ |
| 14:23.35 | gilligan_ | hrw: seems like that is not passed through |
| 14:24.24 | koen | mickeyl: you should probably u-a openmoko-session to x-wm if you want to stay bug compatible :) |
| 14:26.48 | mickeyl | hmm |
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| 14:28.00 | koen | We really shouldn't link session scripts to x-wm, though |
| 14:28.06 | mickeyl | yes |
| 14:28.09 | mickeyl | that's what i was thinking |
| 14:30.09 | koen | koen@lieve:/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages$ grep '${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS}' . -rn | wc -l |
| 14:30.10 | koen | 108 |
| 14:30.23 | koen | koen@lieve:/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages$ grep '${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS}' . -rn | grep qt |wc -l |
| 14:30.24 | koen | 34 |
| 14:30.56 | XorA | mickeyl: I think that should be us fine |
| 14:32.04 | koen | RP: s:${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS}:${STAGING_NATIVE_DIR}:g ? |
| 14:33.08 | zecke | florian: did Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fluente ever contribute to GPE? |
| 14:35.31 | B_Lizzard | fix-configure.patch no longer applies to evas_cvs |
| 14:35.48 | B_Lizzard | and is probably not needed |
| 14:35.55 | florian | zecke: I'm not sure if he produced any code, but he was present from time to time and we discussed a lot of stuff. Why do you ask? |
| 14:36.07 | B_Lizzard | as evas seems to be building fine |
| 14:37.34 | zecke | florian: I wonder why he thinks he deserves special treatment by mailing me privately :) |
| 14:37.41 | gilligan_ | hm..doesn't matter what I do.. I don't get the additional include statement to be put through to the autotools build |
| 14:38.04 | florian | zecke: uh? |
| 14:39.30 | B_Lizzard | evas_cvs builds fine without the patch |
| 14:39.51 | B_Lizzard | So please remove that from evas.inc |
| 14:41.17 | hrw | B_Lizzard: no |
| 14:41.24 | B_Lizzard | Ok :) |
| 14:41.26 | XorA | B_Lizzard: submit a patch to add maxdate to patch |
| 14:41.28 | hrw | B_Lizzard: it needs maxdate added rather |
| 14:41.37 | B_Lizzard | Why? |
| 14:41.43 | B_Lizzard | Since it builds fine without the patch |
| 14:41.44 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
| 14:41.50 | hrw | because I want to build it for 20061213 date |
| 14:41.58 | B_Lizzard | Then do that :) |
| 14:42.01 | hrw | B_Lizzard: and it will not build without it |
| 14:42.02 | B_Lizzard | Not everyone wants that |
| 14:42.16 | B_Lizzard | Or just comment it out, whatever. |
| 14:42.25 | RP | koen: No, HOST_SYS is STAGING_DIR_HOST |
| 14:42.54 | B_Lizzard | I just thought that telling you here is faster than clogging up the bugtracker |
| 14:43.05 | hrw | B_Lizzard: proper way is adding maxdate to patch |
| 14:43.09 | RP | koen: but its not as simple as that, each use case needs to be checked to see if it still means that or if it means ${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${layout_prefix} or something else entirely |
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| 14:43.35 | B_Lizzard | Ok... |
| 14:44.11 | B_Lizzard | I'll search how to do that and give you a patch or whatever |
| 14:44.13 | B_Lizzard | :) |
| 14:44.48 | koen | please file a bugreport instead of trying to push patches on IRC |
| 14:44.51 | hrw | B_Lizzard: s/patch=1/patch=1;maxdate=YYYYMMDD/ where YYYYMMDD is date when it was usable last time |
| 14:45.01 | B_Lizzard | Oh |
| 14:45.02 | B_Lizzard | OK |
| 14:45.05 | B_Lizzard | Thanks a lot :) |
| 14:45.19 | koen | time to RFC 'only patches that went into bugzilla may be applied' |
| 14:46.03 | B_Lizzard | Yeah, but isn't that a bit bureaucratic? |
| 14:46.09 | hrw | mickeyl: what do you think about adding PROVIDES="python-pygtk2" into python-pygtk? |
| 14:46.17 | hrw | B_Lizzard: it is |
| 14:46.22 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
| 14:46.23 | hrw | B_Lizzard: but we work that way |
| 14:46.30 | B_Lizzard | I guess I'll have to live with it. |
| 14:46.32 | koen | it gives people the chance to review patches |
| 14:46.43 | koen | so we can stop stuff like DEPENDS = "libiconv" getting in |
| 14:46.58 | gilligan_ | shouldn't $STAGING_INCDIR be exported in a devshell session ? |
| 14:46.58 | B_Lizzard | Hum, what was the last date it worked? |
| 14:47.04 | B_Lizzard | hehe |
| 14:47.48 | mickeyl | hrw: ok w/ me |
| 14:47.51 | B_Lizzard | Cause I also need to fix all those damn dangling dependancy problems |
| 14:48.10 | B_Lizzard | And post a proper patch |
| 14:49.04 | koen | RP: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE/sed-my-staging.diff.txt |
| 14:49.20 | hrw | B_Lizzard: few deps errors are already fixed ;) |
| 14:49.28 | hrw | B_Lizzard: pull/update and restart |
| 14:49.33 | B_Lizzard | OK |
| 14:49.40 | koen | and file one bug per package |
| 14:49.45 | koen | we hate mega-bugs |
| 14:50.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3299 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by stefan(AT)datenfreihafen.org |
| 14:50.07 | cdbot2 | * * cvs recipe for navit |
| 14:50.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3299 |
| 14:50.17 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3304 has been created by B_Linuz(AT)yahoo.com |
| 14:50.19 | cdbot2 | * * Bitbake complains about missing deps due to changes to the repo. |
| 14:50.21 | B_Lizzard | hehe |
| 14:50.21 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3304 |
| 14:50.24 | dcordes | hrw: any probs with ettercap-ng? |
| 14:50.27 | B_Lizzard | Took it a bit |
| 14:50.44 | hrw | mickeyl: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3303 - can you? |
| 14:50.51 | hrw | dcordes: I do not run it |
| 14:51.07 | B_Lizzard | OK, I'll post a bug and a fix for each package I do. |
| 14:52.12 | B_Lizzard | Are missing packages to be considered removed? |
| 14:52.22 | mickeyl | hrw: please wait. jeremy is revamping this atm in a broader scope |
| 14:52.28 | B_Lizzard | opie-usermanager no longer exists, for instance. |
| 14:52.32 | mickeyl | hrw: he also just applied for commit access |
| 14:52.36 | mickeyl | so I'd like him to do that |
| 14:52.50 | RP | koen: No, needs more attention than that |
| 14:53.20 | koen | RP: I know, but anything that now has '${STAGING_DIR_HOST} ' can get committed, right? |
| 14:53.20 | hrw | mickeyl: I do not touch python in OE - I point you to bugs rather |
| 14:53.26 | mickeyl | hrw: sure. |
| 14:53.35 | RP | koen: --with-aspell-prefix=${STAGING_DIR_HOST} should be ${STAGING_DIR_HOST}/${layout_prefix} |
| 14:53.42 | hrw | B_Lizzard: opie-usermanager was removed |
| 14:53.58 | hrw | iirc |
| 14:53.59 | RP | ${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS}/share -> ${STAGING_DATADIR} |
| 14:54.04 | B_Lizzard | Uh huh |
| 14:54.20 | B_Lizzard | libtheora also depends upon itself, btw |
| 14:54.22 | B_Lizzard | :) |
| 14:54.25 | RP | koen: At the moment we have something easy to grep for and I'd prefer to leave it like that and fix it properly |
| 14:54.59 | B_Lizzard | And fails to build |
| 14:55.05 | hrw | B_Lizzard: and has crappy recipe |
| 14:55.14 | B_Lizzard | Yeah, but builds anyways. :) |
| 14:55.55 | B_Lizzard | Whoa |
| 14:56.00 | B_Lizzard | It really *is* crappy. |
| 14:56.29 | hrw | B_Lizzard: will you provide nicer one? |
| 14:56.44 | zecke | I think http://www.infradead.org/~dwmw2/email.html should be taught in school |
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| 14:56.53 | B_Lizzard | Well, it probably needs updating and some DESCRIPTION and stuff |
| 14:57.05 | B_Lizzard | I'll look into newer versions, see how those build |
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| 14:57.24 | B_Lizzard | Does anything actually *depend* upon libtheora? |
| 14:58.18 | B_Lizzard | It's not in the DEPENDS of any package |
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| 14:59.14 | B_Lizzard | Actually, only linphone and libxine *might* be using it. |
| 14:59.36 | DataBeaver | Is the online repository browser down or just being awfully slow? |
| 15:00.55 | DataBeaver | I'm having a touchscreen problem on a non-OE distribution and would like to look for possible solutions there... |
| 15:01.53 | zecke | DataBeaver: and using OE is not the answer you want to here? |
| 15:02.05 | zecke | DataBeaver: use the tslib test utilities |
| 15:02.07 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 15:03.31 | DataBeaver | zecke: The problem is in the interaction between tslib and the Xorg tslib driver. Specifically, due to the variance module holding up samples, I'm not getting ButtonRelease events until the next tap on the screen. |
| 15:04.05 | zecke | DataBeaver: but that is Xorg question then :) |
| 15:04.40 | zecke | DataBeaver: and if you have analysed that far you probably can think of two solutions already? |
| 15:06.09 | DataBeaver | So far I've thought of (1) asking ts_read for more than one sample at a time or (2) implementing a select-read-loop in the X driver. However, it turns out that ts_read can't handle partial reads very well and the X server already does selecting on the fd. |
| 15:06.33 | DataBeaver | I could of course patch tslib so that it does support partial reads, after which option (1) would work. |
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| 15:10.54 | DataBeaver | The Kdrive tslib driver seems to just call ts_read as long as it gets events, which would suggest that either it needs a patched tslib or there's still some details I'm not aware of... |
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| 15:16.18 | DataBeaver | Ah, there we go. The ts_open function takes a nonblock parameter, and if I enable that, I can use while(ts_read(...)==1). |
| 15:17.31 | DataBeaver | Thanks for tolerating me with this, I won't bother you more for now. |
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| 15:17.46 | zecke | hehe you are welcome... ;) |
| 15:34.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3293 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by <Sokolovsky> |
| 15:34.07 | cdbot2 | * * opie-taskbar-images fails to build |
| 15:34.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3293 |
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| 15:35.20 | hrw | koen: does maemomapper supports non-gps usage? |
| 15:36.35 | koen | hrw: define non-gps usage :) |
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| 15:37.01 | koen | you can input address as well, and scroll around the maps if that's what you mean |
| 15:37.10 | hrw | yes |
| 15:37.48 | hrw | if 64M card will be enough |
| 15:38.09 | hrw | heh.. I forgot that maemo == sharprom |
| 15:38.19 | hrw | dependency hell |
| 15:40.01 | mickeyl | well, it's tough. if you really want something coherent and exciting, you have a hard time making it flexible on multiple systems as well |
| 15:40.05 | mickeyl | i start to understand all these things |
| 15:40.54 | koen | there's a difference between 'hard time' and 'choosing to ignore the issue' |
| 15:41.28 | koen | nokia upgrades 2 libs on the system (no API or ABI changes) and requires a reflash for it |
| 15:42.01 | koen | so people with a 2 weeks old system can't install apps, because they lack the 2 libraries |
| 15:42.19 | koen | and nokia refuses to put those libs updates in the online repo as well |
| 15:42.22 | hrw | not to mention not-existing locale support |
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| 15:48.45 | hrw | and maemo.org being connected to world via 33600 modem |
| 15:51.45 | koen | the .install file is a neat idea, though |
| 15:51.54 | koen | (if it actually worked) |
| 15:51.57 | koen | (which it doesn't) |
| 15:52.49 | hrw | they got few nice ideas |
| 15:52.57 | hrw | but only got.. |
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| 15:59.31 | hrw | good that atleast dropbear server can be installed |
| 15:59.52 | koen | Failed to fetch file:/OE/build/tmp-new/angstrom/deploy/glibc/deb/all/./openmoko-common2_0.1.0+svnr2679-r0_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch |
| 16:00.02 | koen | but the sha256 sum matches .... |
| 16:01.03 | cbrake | is sfdisk the best to partition a disk from a shell script? |
| 16:01.22 | koen | what's wrong with regular fdisk? |
| 16:02.05 | cbrake | koen: last time I tried it I had difficult automating it (no user interaction) |
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| 16:06.47 | cbrake | looks like sfdisk is still the only one that can be used noninteractively |
| 16:08.27 | cbrake | hmm, parted is another option |
| 16:08.44 | RP | cbrake: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/scripts/poky-addptable2image?rev=1734&view=markup |
| 16:08.54 | RP | cbrake: ugly but it does work... |
| 16:10.18 | cbrake | RP: interesting, so you can pipe commands into fdisk -- thanks |
| 16:11.18 | Crofton | cbrake, that frightens me :) |
| 16:12.20 | cbrake | Crofton: that is the problem with Linux -- you can do some truely scary things :-) |
| 16:13.41 | cbrake | heh, this works: echo ",,83" | sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 16:13.50 | mwester | we must be discussing feeding fdisk a bunch of numbers and entries, and then hoping like heck that it didn't destroy some other random device... |
| 16:14.34 | cbrake | mwester: nod, I think I'll stick with my sfdisk -- seems pretty clean |
| 16:15.11 | cbrake | the above command creates one partition using the entire disk |
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| 16:15.56 | RP | cbrake: I had the contraint of making it match a real zaurus when I wrote that fdisk script... |
| 16:16.12 | mwester | Yep, sfdisk is way better IMO. (I implemented an auto-fdisk script for Unslung on the NSLU2 that piped text into fdisk - it worked (usually) but I was too worried about it to actually add it to the distro). |
| 16:16.16 | RP | mwester: Nobody would be mad enough to run that script as root, right? :) |
| 16:18.15 | cbrake | RP: nod, well at least fdisk gives you the option when you need it |
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| 16:24.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3304 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 16:24.06 | cdbot2 | * * Bitbake complains about missing deps due to changes to the repo. |
| 16:24.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3304 |
| 16:25.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3279 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 16:25.06 | cdbot2 | * * gpsdrive SRC_URI changed |
| 16:25.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3279 |
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| 16:29.21 | hrw | koen: got it |
| 16:29.47 | hrw | koen: maemo mapper fetched 29MB of maps (~5000 parts) for needed region |
| 16:30.22 | koen | you should be able to select which zoom level you want in the download dialog |
| 16:30.30 | Tartarus | Anyone, if I wanted to play around with the current package up staging stuff, where should I look? |
| 16:30.33 | koen | which is hidden somewhere |
| 16:31.07 | hrw | not hidden even |
| 16:31.26 | hrw | atleast not in mm 1.4.7 |
| 16:31.29 | koen | iirc it's under 'manage maps' |
| 16:31.59 | koen | 2.0.x freaked me out at first |
| 16:32.19 | koen | it defaults to idiot mode where 'up' is your driving direction instead of north |
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| 16:34.23 | hrw | its 'car mode' |
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| 16:35.08 | florian | bbl |
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| 16:38.53 | woglinde | hi florian |
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| 17:00.00 | koen_ | Sending and flashing rootfs image (128256 kB)... |
| 17:00.00 | koen_ | 100% (128256 of 128256 kB, avg. 5953 kB/s) |
| 17:00.13 | koen_ | I also love the 6MB/s flashing of the n800 |
| 17:02.59 | chouimat|work | koen nice |
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| 17:18.26 | hrw | bye |
| 17:18.35 | steliosk | ~ping crofton |
| 17:18.36 | ibot | pong crofton |
| 17:19.21 | Crofton|home | stefan_schmidt, pong |
| 17:19.50 | Crofton|home | er |
| 17:19.56 | Crofton|home | steliosk, pong |
| 17:21.28 | steliosk | Crofton|home : Send me the invoices you have from the OEDEM |
| 17:21.46 | Crofton | working on it right now |
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| 17:34.25 | koen | IT2008 is pretty neat |
| 17:34.39 | koen | it's almost as responsive as openmoko :) |
| 17:35.34 | B_Lizzard | Which is presumably good :) |
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| 17:37.35 | koen | actually, no |
| 17:38.16 | koen | but the OMG SHINY TRANSLUCENT PANEL makes up for it |
| 17:40.07 | Crofton|home | koen is a sucker for cool design features |
| 17:40.16 | koen | yeah |
| 17:40.58 | B_Lizzard | Ok, things depend on ettercap, ettercap doesn't exist, but ettercap-ng does, do I do "PROVIDES = ettercap" or do I change the DEPENDS of all those things to ettercap-ng? |
| 17:41.02 | koen | Crofton|home: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7500261933.html |
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| 17:41.17 | B_Lizzard | I mean do PROVIDES = ettercap on ettercap |
| 17:41.19 | B_Lizzard | -ng |
| 17:41.22 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
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| 17:42.48 | B_Lizzard | ? |
| 17:43.21 | koen | changing the depends would probably be better |
| 17:43.27 | Crofton|home | hmm, the shape shifting reptile |
| 17:43.38 | koen | but the smart thing would be drop that into the lap of the person that deleted ettercap :) |
| 17:43.46 | B_Lizzard | :D |
| 17:44.35 | Crofton|home | heh, I hadn't seen the reptile crack until after I posted the above |
| 17:46.47 | B_Lizzard | Is ${XSERVER} valid anymore? |
| 17:47.11 | koen | only in package-space |
| 17:47.19 | B_Lizzard | Should I set that to virtual/xserver |
| 17:47.22 | B_Lizzard | ? |
| 17:47.23 | koen | in recipe space you'd want virtual/xserver |
| 17:47.23 | B_Lizzard | ok |
| 17:47.41 | B_Lizzard | thanks :) |
| 17:47.58 | B_Lizzard | fixing packages, one by one :) |
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| 18:04.24 | B_Lizzard | osso-gnome-vfs2 was moved to obsolete, but packages "osso-thumbnail", "hildon-home" and "task-maemo" still depend on it. |
| 18:04.31 | B_Lizzard | Course of action? |
| 18:04.58 | B_Lizzard | I'm not sure these packages *really* require it, though |
| 18:08.15 | B_Lizzard | Dammit a lot of things have changed since I last built world |
| 18:08.26 | B_Lizzard | Back then it actually *worked* :D |
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| 18:11.19 | B_Lizzard | osso-gnome-vfs2 was moved to obsolete, but packages "osso-thumbnail", "hildon-home" and "task-maemo" still depend on it. Course of action? :) |
| 18:12.21 | B_Lizzard | A whole load of things fail because of these three :( |
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| 18:17.13 | B_Lizzard | Oh damn. |
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| 18:19.20 | B_Lizzard | Someone? |
| 18:19.32 | B_Lizzard | I'm trying to fix bugs here. |
| 18:19.34 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
| 18:20.03 | Jin^eLD | I'm around but I have no idea, but I |
| 18:20.10 | Jin^eLD | 'll try to offer some moral support :) |
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| 18:24.00 | B_Lizzard | :D:D |
| 18:24.06 | B_Lizzard | ;) |
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| 18:24.18 | B_Lizzard | Hello sir |
| 18:24.55 | B_Lizzard | May'st thou provide me with guidelines so that I may fix some bugs pertaining to the OE recipe repository and the items held within? |
| 18:25.48 | B_Lizzard | Oh what the fuck |
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| 18:25.59 | B_Lizzard | I'll bring the package back in, see if it builds. |
| 18:26.09 | B_Lizzard | :) |
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| 18:27.43 | B_Lizzard | Aha |
| 18:28.20 | B_Lizzard | Suck me sideways! |
| 18:28.36 | B_Lizzard | This gets deeper yet, Barry! |
| 18:28.46 | Jin^eLD | :) |
| 18:28.50 | B_Lizzard | :) |
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| 18:34.44 | B_Lizzard | A whole load of things are broken... |
| 18:35.05 | B_Lizzard | Whenever it downloads something from svn, it keeps thinking I want revision 1 |
| 18:35.07 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
| 18:35.30 | B_Lizzard | And adds a nice -r 1 to the svn commandline :/ |
| 18:40.19 | cbrake | B_Lizzard: there is a patch for bitbake to fix that I think ... |
| 18:40.28 | B_Lizzard | Hmmm |
| 18:40.50 | B_Lizzard | I now know that angstrom imports some good known dates and revisions... |
| 18:40.57 | B_Lizzard | I'll try updating bb |
| 18:41.31 | cbrake | B_Lizzard: http://pastebin.ca/775755 |
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| 18:42.35 | B_Lizzard | Thanks a lot, cbrake! :) |
| 18:42.40 | cbrake | B_Lizzard: sure |
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| 18:46.43 | B_Lizzard | koen's busy, seems like. |
| 18:52.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3305 has been created by hans.ullrich(AT)loop.de |
| 18:52.07 | cdbot2 | * * white keys do not work correctly (akita) |
| 18:52.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3305 |
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| 19:18.03 | koen | damnation |
| 19:18.18 | koen | this new fangled router only seems to support portforwarding from the outside |
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| 19:31.50 | woglinde | re koen |
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| 20:07.36 | woglinde | he crofton |
| 20:07.44 | Crofton | re |
| 20:07.51 | Crofton | snowing today |
| 20:08.00 | woglinde | hehe |
| 20:08.05 | woglinde | put the ski on |
| 20:08.05 | Crofton | flurries really, maybe global warming is over .... |
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| 20:19.10 | woglinde | lustig |
| 20:19.16 | woglinde | iptv ueber multicast |
| 20:19.17 | woglinde | http://www.ard-digital.de/index.php?id=14029&languageid=1 |
| 20:19.19 | woglinde | ups |
| 20:19.21 | woglinde | sorry |
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| 20:25.45 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r353324dd... 10/ (1 packages/lm_sensors/lmsensors-apps_2.10.1.bb): lmsensors-apps: fix DEPENDS |
| 20:25.50 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r876cf349... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gpe-sectest.bb): task-gpe-sectest: dropped as it is now in task-gpe recipe |
| 20:25.56 | CIA-32 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r29a3e4fb... 10/ (1 packages/librcf/librcf_0.4.bb): librcf: drop bogus RDEPENDS |
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| 21:07.17 | gcl | steliosk: I'm getting there; now I've got a build failure on popt |
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| 21:18.10 | sakoman_ | Crofton: 70 degrees here today, global warming isn't over yet |
| 21:18.28 | Crofton | heh |
| 21:18.50 | Crofton | 36 F here |
| 21:18.54 | sakoman_ | We could use some rain, though . . . |
| 21:19.18 | Crofton | we are having issues with global drying also |
| 21:19.28 | woglinde | ~lart trolltech |
| 21:19.28 | ibot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in trolltech's direction, hitting trolltech and sending trolltech flying into the closet |
| 21:26.56 | ljp | hmm |
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| 21:28.24 | woglinde_ | lorn in the toolchain for neo device arent the qtopia header and libs |
| 21:28.35 | woglinde_ | so crosscompilig for qt is pain in the ass |
| 21:29.32 | ljp | no, its a cross toolchain |
| 21:30.15 | woglinde_ | yeah but only deliver the gcc didnt make so much sense |
| 21:30.49 | ljp | yes it does |
| 21:31.12 | woglinde_ | now I am stucked and can not test the qt4 backend of midpath in qemu-neo |
| 21:31.13 | ljp | we havent released an sdk for it yet |
| 21:32.48 | woglinde_ | *sigh* |
| 21:33.40 | ljp | qtopia hcanges too much to add it to the toolchain |
| 21:34.10 | woglinde_ | okay |
| 21:34.25 | woglinde_ | sorry |
| 21:34.28 | woglinde_ | I understand now |
| 21:34.29 | zecke | ljp: the platform should be stable ;) |
| 21:34.37 | woglinde_ | I was only a little frustraded |
| 21:34.45 | zecke | ljp: we talk about header files + lib |
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| 21:35.04 | ljp | qtopia headers and lib do not belong in the toolchain |
| 21:35.31 | woglinde_ | the libs are in rootfs |
| 21:35.37 | woglinde_ | but not the headers |
| 21:35.40 | woglinde_ | that killsme |
| 21:35.50 | zecke | ljp: I see you think toolchain == compiler, SDK = gui + toolchain + qtopia libs... |
| 21:36.10 | ljp | zecke: correct |
| 21:36.45 | zecke | ljp: I don't know if I agree. will think about it later :) |
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| 21:37.16 | Khem | zecke: sounds about right I think toolchain is bare minimum needed to create a C application |
| 21:37.18 | ljp | toolchain hardly ever needs updating between qtopia versions |
| 21:37.33 | woglinde_ | zecke hehe no sdk is a vmware image so you are stucked on vmware even if you have native linux |
| 21:37.42 | ljp | wow..! kergoth agrees with me! |
| 21:37.56 | woglinde_ | kergoth? |
| 21:37.58 | kergoth | i know, i was scared too |
| 21:38.10 | woglinde_ | oh |
| 21:38.19 | ljp | woglinde_: as og 4.3.0 the sdk iso contains a qtopia.iso which contains toolchain+ sdk so you can install to host |
| 21:38.19 | Crofton | another sign of the apocalypse |
| 21:38.21 | zecke | hehe |
| 21:38.31 | zecke | I like kergoth too much to steal his mojo |
| 21:38.37 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:39.15 | woglinde_ | okay so I will wait |
| 21:39.32 | woglinde_ | and have a good reason to play my games |
| 21:39.49 | woglinde_ | instead of doing freesoftware thinkies *g* |
| 21:40.09 | ljp | for now, you just have to compile qtopia |
| 21:40.40 | woglinde_ | *g* hm I only had to copy the headers of qtopia |
| 21:40.43 | woglinde_ | but I am to lazy |
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| 22:07.47 | mickey_away | koen|awa2: hmm. how can i add keys nowadays. i can't seem to log in to ewi |
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| 22:16.14 | andrea | hi |
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| 22:16.35 | andrea | I did a fresh monotone pull after removing /tmp |
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| 22:16.50 | andrea | I only built console-image |
| 22:17.01 | andrea | now I tried straight gpsdrive |
| 22:17.12 | andrea | it fails |
| 22:17.14 | andrea | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.42 | andrea | shouldn't the dependencies come out automatically |
| 22:17.44 | andrea | ? |
| 22:19.05 | andrea | checking for arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-pkg-config... no |
| 22:19.20 | andrea | checking for pkg-config... /home/oe/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/pkg-config |
| 22:19.37 | andrea | should I file a bug or it is too obvious? |
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| 23:21.41 | Tartarus | Is there a way to get bitbake -e to evaluate for a specific package? |
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| 23:47.58 | dfoley | Tartarus: I used to use the showdata <providee> in bitbake -i (It seems to be broken for me though) peek <providee> <variable> works though |
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| 23:58.21 | Tartarus | thanks |