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01:17.49 | ggilbert | geeeze. I thought the hh.o drama was over and done with. |
01:19.14 | Crofton|home | heh |
01:19.56 | Crofton|home | I don't really know what the big problem is |
01:20.06 | Crofton|home | but I did run across the hh.o legal page |
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01:30.05 | chouimat | Crofton|home: url |
01:31.13 | Crofton|home | http://www.handhelds.org/legal.html |
01:31.21 | Crofton|home | there was a link on the opie list |
01:31.35 | Crofton|home | and I found it in the fine print on the hh.o web pages |
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05:28.25 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2013 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by pmiscml@gmail.com |
05:28.27 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2013] bitbake gpe-image fails on gtk-engines |
05:28.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2013 |
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06:03.11 | koen | good morning all |
06:13.03 | koen | Crofton: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/05/22/distros-indeed |
06:13.16 | pvanhoof | morning koen |
06:13.26 | koen | hey pvanhoof :) |
06:13.39 | pvanhoof | Overstressed, couldn't get sleep |
06:13.49 | pvanhoof | because I decided to resign today |
06:13.55 | pvanhoof | From Cronos, my fulltime employer |
06:13.56 | pvanhoof | :) |
06:14.16 | pvanhoof | so highlighting my xchat is extremely dangerous :) |
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06:19.40 | steliosk | morning all |
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06:24.19 | koen | hey steliosk |
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06:34.16 | steliosk | koen : The new rep script worked fine |
06:34.27 | koen | steliosk: cool |
06:34.38 | steliosk | koen : http://rafb.net/p/tzNxRc71.html |
06:35.40 | steliosk | koen : i copied a single file to some of the architectures and processed just them, running the php update just once at the end |
06:40.18 | steliosk | koen :here is the script you put in unsorted -> http://rafb.net/p/cq2G8D76.html i called it update-rep.sh |
06:41.29 | steliosk | koen : and this is the script you need to put in every arch dir -> http://rafb.net/p/4mMy0441.html |
06:42.04 | steliosk | koen : i named it new-index.sh so basically you can have the old scripts in place also...just in case something goes wrong |
06:43.08 | steliosk | koen : in both scripts you set the path to the ipkg tools and php update script in varialbles at the top, so it can be easily moved around |
06:44.23 | steliosk | koen : also in the new-index scripts you don't need to specify the machines for each arch, it cd's to the machine dir and then goes to every dir in there |
06:45.37 | steliosk | next stem is to merge them in one script and read architecture,machines etc from a config file and not have it hard-coded |
06:46.06 | koen | indeed |
06:48.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2364 has been created by joaquinduran@adtelecom.es |
06:48.26 | cdbot2 | * * Path hardcoded in gtk-engines .bb file |
06:48.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2364 |
06:49.26 | steliosk | koen : btw have you used the new ipkg tools on the rep ? |
06:50.20 | koen | steliosk: yes |
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06:51.40 | steliosk | koen : do they have the speed difference mentioned ? |
06:54.33 | koen | they have a speed difference, but not the one mentioned |
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07:42.12 | koen | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2007-May/msg00026.html :( |
07:48.14 | CM | Is it the pixbuf that's the problem then? Anyway to strace it or get some statistics some other way? |
07:49.44 | XorA|gone | morning |
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07:52.08 | koen | hey XorA|gone |
07:52.55 | koen | CM: dunno, all I can say is that I applied the patch and it didn't seem to make a difference |
07:53.19 | CM | Hehe |
07:55.28 | XorA|gone | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
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07:57.22 | XorA | I shall have to find a working irc proxy |
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08:01.10 | cidus | hi to all |
08:01.13 | cidus | i have a problem with linux on arm, |
08:01.30 | cidus | i post a bug report: |
08:01.33 | cidus | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425527 |
08:01.35 | XorA | cidus: this is OE channel, not arm-linux |
08:01.58 | XorA | cidus: #debian is where you should go then |
08:02.06 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re096dd41... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/composite-pixbuf_0.0.bb): composite-pixbug: add test app for pixbug performance |
08:02.52 | cidus | excused I have mistaken |
08:03.17 | XorA | cidus: but you can always ditch that debian junk and use OE :-) |
08:05.48 | cidus | in effects I was thinking to make a test |
08:07.13 | koen | heh: http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=235763&cid=19231061 |
08:07.18 | XorA | dirty secret is debian use us to bootstrap armeb/armel :-D |
08:08.22 | XorA | koen: that still the BSD GPL violation rumbling around |
08:08.30 | XorA | koen: buncha BSD pirates |
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08:28.37 | likewise | goOod Morning |
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08:32.38 | XorA | does any distro use gpe-image any more? |
08:37.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2344 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise@gmx.net |
08:37.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2344] hdparm does not build using uclibc |
08:37.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2344 |
08:42.07 | koen | hey likewise |
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08:42.43 | keesj | Zero_Chaos: what machine configuration do you use? I use ixp4xxbe, I guess the uClibc.machine is out of date |
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08:44.31 | ade|desk | morning all |
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08:53.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2178 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp@xora.org.uk |
08:53.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2178] kismet fails compilation when it finds |
08:53.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2178 |
08:55.19 | likewise | hi koen |
08:57.37 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: kismet change done |
09:00.11 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * re9005b8c... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): packages/kismet/* : remove old versions |
09:00.24 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb08d9d4a... 10/ (1 packages/kismet/kismet_2007-01-R1b.bb): |
09:00.24 | CIA-4 | kismet_2007-01-R1b.bb : disable gpsmap as per bug #2178 and discussion with |
09:00.24 | CIA-4 | Zero_Chaos |
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09:12.24 | XorA | ~lart git |
09:12.25 | ibot | stamps git on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
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09:35.58 | gremlin[it] | hi all |
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09:36.41 | gremlin[it] | hi have a problem building xfce-image on angstrom, seem to be the 404, it should be resolved ... |
09:37.12 | gremlin[it] | but i notice it was for openzaurus .. but now happen to me on angstrom |
09:37.43 | gremlin[it] | did i reopen the bug and change the OS version or clone the bug ? |
09:38.56 | gremlin[it] | hi florian |
09:39.09 | florian | godd morning |
09:39.21 | florian | good rather... |
09:39.25 | likewise | EXTRA_OECONF_uclibc = "bla" does not work for me, but EXTRA_OECONF = "bla" does. ? |
09:42.23 | koen | likewise: _linux-uclibc and _linux-uclibcgnueabi |
09:43.17 | koen | aka TARGET_OS |
09:43.51 | gremlin[it] | koen, what is better reopen the bug or clone ? |
09:44.34 | koen | reopen |
09:45.09 | likewise | koen: so TARGET_OS is one of the overrides? How can I find out about the others? |
09:45.41 | gremlin[it] | ok and i change the OS version from openzaurus to angtrom ? |
09:47.11 | koen | likewise: bitbake.conf:OVERRIDES = "local:${MACHINE}:${DISTRO}:${TARGET_OS}:${TARGET_ARCH}:build-${BUILD_OS}:fail-fast:pn-${PN}" |
09:47.27 | RP | morning all |
09:47.31 | likewise | gm rp |
09:47.34 | koen | hey RP |
09:55.49 | likewise | Anyone seen these on powerpc/uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib '/lib/libc.so.6' ? |
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09:57.21 | lrg | hey RP |
09:57.26 | likewise | sounds like http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=986 |
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10:01.30 | steliosk | likewise : which version of uclibc ? |
10:01.31 | likewise | 0.9.29 |
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10:01.31 | likewise | net split? |
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10:04.15 | koen | later all |
10:04.53 | likewise | smakelijk |
10:06.12 | XorA | damn you people who get lunch early |
10:06.42 | likewise | XorA: yeah, that's why I work from home today :-) |
10:06.52 | likewise | XorA: so I can lunch all day |
10:07.25 | Crofton|home | It isn't even breakfast time here |
10:10.49 | Crofton|home | hmm |
10:11.03 | Crofton|home | I need to depend on boost-filesystem |
10:11.19 | Crofton|home | do I put boost or boost-filesystem in DEPENDS? |
10:11.47 | XorA | Crofton|home: the .bb name |
10:13.06 | Crofton|home | thanks |
10:21.11 | Crofton|home | getting on error about not finding libxcb? |
10:22.56 | Crofton|home | nevermind |
10:28.03 | Crofton | that would be a bunch of work |
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10:39.23 | XorA | likewise: funding to post XorA to interesting conferences :-) |
10:39.46 | Crofton | um funding |
10:40.20 | ade|desk | funding for my guinness intake |
10:40.44 | XorA | hmm, OE confernce in dublin :-) |
10:40.50 | likewise | :-) |
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10:41.05 | Crofton | we turned in a proposal to the NSF to see if they would fund a beer drinking trip to Oreland |
10:41.12 | Crofton | er Ireland |
10:41.26 | XorA | Oireland is how they pronouince it :-) |
10:41.39 | Crofton | they talk funny over there |
10:42.10 | ade|desk | lol |
10:42.31 | XorA | the polish need to lend them some constonants :-) |
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10:45.27 | likewise | got a discount price of $245 for these boards: http://www.micetek.com/englishweb/product/new/PQIIproDevelopmentProducts/8313E-RDB.htm |
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10:47.24 | koen | $$$$ - $245 is still $$$$ ? |
10:49.31 | XorA | Package fuse-module wants to install file /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules |
10:49.31 | XorA | I suspect that fuse-module shouldnt call its version that |
10:52.15 | likewise | koen: yes $245 per board after discount |
10:52.27 | koen | ah |
10:52.27 | koen | that sounds a lot better :) |
10:53.04 | florian | hrm... who broke xserver-xorg? |
10:53.34 | ade|desk | florian: florian did i think |
10:53.47 | ade|desk | he breaks everything |
10:53.53 | florian | hehe |
10:53.58 | florian | i didn't touch it ;) |
10:54.03 | ade|desk | prove it |
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10:54.49 | likewise | florian: ice? |
10:54.55 | likewise | florian: cream? |
10:55.37 | ade|desk | i wonder if openmosix would work |
10:56.03 | florian | likewise: Yes - i set up a new build host and have the icecc running on all useful machines at kc. |
10:56.24 | florian | ade|desk: might be an interesting experiment |
10:57.32 | likewise | florian: nice. I stopped trying that here because everyone is running their own distro and the icecc version must very closely match in order for it to work |
10:58.06 | florian | likewise: yes indeed, that was the only problem here too. |
10:59.04 | florian | All the machines here are not the fastest one could imagine, but now there are three machines with five real cpus with gigabit connections at least. |
10:59.27 | florian | And three more with slower links... |
10:59.58 | likewise | florian: I'll try to pick up the project at work as well. |
11:00.48 | florian | likewise: its interesting to watch how the tasks are scheduled... |
11:01.45 | likewise | florian: watch with the visual monitor? |
11:02.09 | florian | likewise: yes |
11:02.20 | florian | that icemon thingy |
11:02.29 | likewise | florian: did you need any tweaking or is the wiki page on thise still up-to-date? |
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11:04.06 | florian | likewise: worked out of the box... |
11:05.37 | ade|desk | florian: openmosix and compile farms are a no go, are compiles are way too small to be farmed out. openmosix farms out processes so each .c would be pushed and pulled back for the next node rather than push a job series out. damn :( |
11:06.24 | florian | ade|desk: oh, ok... |
11:12.19 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rb81d6701... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.13.bb): alsa-utils-1.0.13: Disable NLS for uclibc, workaround, needs more TLC. |
11:12.19 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r84d1a27d... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb_6.6.bb): gdb: fix RRECOMMENDS |
11:20.43 | likewise | cannot build powerpc/uclibc from scratch anymore, uclibc-initial-0.9.28 fails on the kernel headers. |
11:20.55 | likewise | w/ angstrom that is |
11:23.43 | likewise | copying initial-0.9.28 to initial-0.9.29 seems to work. Using 2.6.20 headers, probably too new for 0.9.28... |
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11:42.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2360 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
11:42.25 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2360] more granularity for xserver-xorg package |
11:42.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2360 |
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11:48.04 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8af6eae5... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common.inc: granulate packaging some more, closes #2360 |
11:48.09 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcc0f5070... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-xorg_1.2.0.bb): xserver-xorg 1.2.0: remove broken patch |
11:48.14 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2bb7f54... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
11:48.14 | CIA-4 | xserver-kdrive: merge 1.3.0.0 from poky |
11:48.14 | CIA-4 | * Xw100 patch needs to be rediffed |
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11:57.23 | bgeradz | does anybody know in which package is "date" program (NOT the one provided by busybox)? |
11:57.55 | koen | bgeradz: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=date&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
12:02.09 | bgeradz | thanx |
12:03.50 | steliosk | likewise : yes 0.9.28 works with kernel keaders < 2.6 18 |
12:04.39 | likewise | steliosk: Copying initial-0.9.28 to ...29 works for me, so I will push that I guess. |
12:05.05 | steliosk | florian : I will be pushing some more changes to the icecc bbclass, fixing a couple of things in the new few days |
12:06.13 | florian | steliosk: that sounds promising! what are you going to fix? |
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12:10.33 | steliosk | florian :well qemu support added |
12:11.02 | steliosk | florian :and a couple of fixes regarding PARALLEL_MAKE |
12:12.07 | florian | steliosk: okay cool |
12:12.18 | florian | XorA: heh |
12:12.48 | steliosk | florian : they way it is now if a package is exlcuded from using icecc and has to build locally, the host gets PARALLEL_MAKE set according to what its set for icecc and usually takes longer to build the package |
12:15.15 | florian | steliosk: right, the best would be to have a fallback value you can define here... and maybe defaulting to the amount of cpus in the system |
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12:20.17 | hrw | morning |
12:21.04 | XorA | yo hrw |
12:21.20 | koen | hey hrw |
12:22.28 | likewise | morning hrw |
12:22.34 | hrw | something interesting happens? |
12:22.51 | XorA | we sold OE to microsft |
12:22.53 | likewise | hrw: yes, by now everybody should have had breakfast :-) |
12:23.19 | likewise | XorA: I thought that was only a rumor? |
12:23.19 | koen | no, florian is having breakfast in half an hour |
12:23.38 | likewise | koen: no florian stayed up all night making icecc work. |
12:24.17 | koen | ah, hmm |
12:24.28 | koen | is think I know what drmfix was supposed to do: |
12:24.29 | koen | CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include/drm |
12:25.00 | Laibsch | I have defined a dependency for docbook-utils-native in a new recipe I created (http://paste.stgraber.org/1079) but when I do "bitbake scim" the darn thing goes straight to compiling scim and thus fails in configure. Why does it not build docbook-utils-native first? |
12:26.27 | florian | hehe |
12:27.14 | koen | composite benchmark available for most arm dialects: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=composite-pixbuf |
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12:51.45 | Jin^eLD | huhu |
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13:00.35 | ade|desk | yay, my wife has got a new job, with a good size pay cut, what a bargain ! |
13:01.39 | XorA | ade|desk: I hope you get an equal pay rise then |
13:02.05 | ade|desk | unlikely |
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13:02.35 | ade|desk | looking forward to seeing if we get cost of living increase this year |
13:03.15 | ade|desk | not looking hopeful despite increasing profits by 22 % |
13:03.49 | steliosk | the question is "which" cost of living... the goverments one which is usally like 0 or the real one.... |
13:03.56 | ade|desk | i imagine the directors will enjoy their bonuses |
13:04.26 | XorA | I hate directors, they do jack shit and steal all the money |
13:04.33 | XorA | mallum excepted :-D |
13:10.30 | likewise | hi Jin^eLD , AvengerMoJo |
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13:24.18 | koen | hey mickeyl |
13:24.25 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
13:24.41 | Crofton | hi mickeyl , done with all the moving? |
13:26.20 | steliosk | ~seen zecke |
13:26.42 | ibot | zecke is currently on #handhelds-opie (3h 23m 52s) #handhelds (3h 23m 52s) #oe (3h 23m 52s) #openmoko (3h 23m 52s), last said: 'france: I'm guessing who knows the admin password. With some luck treke (gilbert) might know it'. |
13:27.00 | mickeyl | hi Crofton |
13:27.03 | mickeyl | yes, pretty much |
13:27.12 | mickeyl | some outstanding problems with telephony and cable tv though |
13:27.20 | mickeyl | but these are minor |
13:27.33 | mickeyl | hi koen, hrw |
13:28.58 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r3dca5f3a... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): uclibc: Add uclibc-initial-0.9.29 so that toolchain bootstrap from recent kernel headers works. |
13:29.03 | steliosk | zecke : any idea why tinderbox seems to be slow ? it looks like its slows down compile time significantly and it did not used to be like that... |
13:29.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a2d941b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-xorg: update mesa dep to 6.5.2 |
13:29.10 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1540ceee... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common: substitute drmfix.patch with a more robust sed statement |
13:29.14 | Crofton | mickeyl, but you have internet? |
13:30.05 | steliosk | is anyone using the tinderbox ? |
13:33.48 | XorA | koen: I was thinking maybe we should add a do_patch_sed() tasks that is part of do_patch stage, that would be usefull for people who want to produce debian style .diff files |
13:34.53 | zecke | steliosk: is the network having issues? |
13:35.04 | zecke | steliosk: the openmoko build is using it |
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13:35.48 | steliosk | zecke : i don't think its a problem with the network from my side... traffic is very low |
13:37.07 | zecke | steliosk: it is doing blocking IO to reach the server. So ewi might have performance issues :) |
13:37.08 | steliosk | zecke : poky is using it also... maybe there are 2 many jobs/data and the network on the server side is near capacity ? |
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13:37.42 | zecke | steliosk: I don't think so :} I have no idea what is slowing it down |
13:37.57 | steliosk | zecke : my build times wend up like 30-40% |
13:38.04 | zecke | steliosk: you could print the time needed to send the log to the machine |
13:38.21 | zecke | steliosk: please add some timing prints to tinderbox.bbclass, as the class itself was unchanged |
13:39.12 | steliosk | zecke : my build screen is not rolling as fast as it used to be... that's enough of a timing measure :) |
13:40.01 | zecke | steliosk: I would like to know the time needed to connect ewi and wait for the answer ;) |
13:40.44 | steliosk | zecke :ok will run some tests and let you know |
13:42.08 | zecke | thanks |
13:45.49 | mickeyl | Crofton: i have internet, but it's connected to a wrong socket (1st floor instead of 0th floor) requiring me to use a wireless bridge w/ lots of dropouts and stuff :/ |
13:46.10 | mickeyl | which is quite an undertaking |
13:46.15 | mickeyl | because i'm not a T-Com customer |
13:46.21 | mickeyl | and they keep bouncing me forth- and backwards |
13:46.25 | mickeyl | i feel like a ping pong ball |
13:46.26 | mickeyl | sigh |
13:47.18 | XorA | mickeyl: time for recorded letters to their director of customer services? |
13:48.00 | mickeyl | hehe |
13:48.02 | mickeyl | might be an option |
13:48.17 | xuumbi | can BBFILE_COLLECTIONS still be used to set priorities for upstream and local package areas? |
13:48.31 | mickeyl | you know, if they don't manage to reconnect me I just go back to T-Com. Pricewise it's not that much of a difference nowadays |
13:48.34 | Crofton | xuumbi, I think so |
13:48.35 | xuumbi | I see it in the bitbake manual, but it was removed from the OE wiki |
13:48.35 | mickeyl | like 10 EUR more per month |
13:48.47 | xuumbi | Crofton: oh good, I'm going to test it anyway... |
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13:53.01 | likewise | xuumbi: it works, but be very careful to set your PREFERRED_PROVIDERS and versions neatly. |
13:53.56 | xuumbi | likewise: so a higher version/release number in a collection with a lower priority will get precedence? |
13:54.21 | XorA | mickeyl: Ive found that recorded letters work well as people at that level have no time for silly excuses when the solution it literally to switch 2 patches and 30secs of engineers work |
13:54.57 | xuumbi | likewise: wait, I think I'm confusing PREFERRED_PROVIDERS with PREFERRED_VERSION |
13:55.07 | XorA | mickeyl: Ive also had success with the line on the phone "Hi, I think you should get a manager for me as Im going to shout and Im sure your not paid enough to put up with customers shouting at you!" |
13:55.26 | likewise | xuumbi: I am not sure what happens if a higher version/release number in a collection with a lower priority exists. |
13:55.45 | likewise | xuumbi: I *think* the lower priority collection always has precedence. |
13:55.56 | likewise | xuumbi: but you should check that |
13:56.20 | xuumbi | likewise: I just tried a package with a lower release number in my local collection and it picked it up |
13:56.41 | likewise | xuumbi: without specifying the release/version number? |
13:56.50 | xuumbi | likewise: yes |
13:56.52 | likewise | xuumbi: yup, ok, that's what I think it does and should do. |
14:04.56 | koen | NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.3.0.0: completed |
14:05.04 | koen | NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.2.0: completed |
14:05.07 | koen | woooo! |
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14:13.42 | chouimat | morning |
14:14.58 | Crofton | http://pastebin.ca/505258 |
14:15.06 | Crofton | ANyone have any thoughts? |
14:15.43 | koen | Crofton: "cold wheat beer" |
14:15.56 | Crofton | a bit early for beer here .... |
14:16.12 | koen | apart from that: s:-m755:-m 755: |
14:16.30 | koen | oe's install-native doesn't like the concatenated option |
14:16.34 | Crofton | ah |
14:16.41 | Crofton | I was checking on host |
14:16.54 | Crofton | the problem "went away" for a bit also |
14:17.48 | Crofton | I'll push if bitbake -c rebuild u-boot builds |
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14:20.59 | koen | Is Russ Nelson so clueless or has france stolen his workstation? |
14:21.18 | koen | florian: it seems you were the maintainer of Familiar ;) |
14:23.05 | mickeyl | XorA: hehe, good advice. i will take that into account |
14:26.01 | florian | koen: no, he is like that... incredibly |
14:27.11 | hrw | chouimat: where this time? |
14:27.26 | chouimat | hrw: everywhere |
14:28.16 | koen | hrw: http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/ http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2007/05/23/time-for-the-gpe-team-to-seek-legal-counsel |
14:32.13 | Crofton | let me know if you need anything doing on this side of the Atlantic |
14:32.27 | Crofton | I can ask my sister for some free advice |
14:33.18 | koen | your sister is a hitwoman? |
14:33.29 | Crofton | sort off |
14:33.57 | Crofton | http://www.hunton.com/bios/bio.aspx?id=17235&tab=0013 |
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14:40.27 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rb42b01db... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): vsftpd: Fix dependencies. Fix uclibc support. |
14:40.38 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r0c3c5a0c... 10/ (1 packages/libcap/libcap_1.10.bb): libcap: Fix uclibc support. |
14:40.44 | CIA-4 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r3ff3791f... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/u-boot.inc): |
14:40.44 | CIA-4 | u-boot.inc : Correct args to install to work with OE install-native. |
14:40.44 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
14:42.20 | koen | hrw: MACHINE=progear is nice way to find kernels without COMPATIBLE_MACHINE ;) |
14:42.43 | XorA | I thought even in somewhere as insane as the US you couldnt hold a trademark in a product you dont sell, hence why Cisco lost iPhone trademark |
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14:43.31 | koen | XorA: iirc someone has to challenge it first |
14:44.01 | XorA | koen: or handhelds has to sue when you use it, if they dont, they lose it anyway, and do they actually have any cash? |
14:44.11 | koen | they have |
14:44.18 | chouimat | XorA: and you need some money to be able to do this |
14:44.21 | koen | Google Summer of code, remember |
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14:45.10 | koen | florian: maybe we should make a reference to being fired as president of FSF ;) |
14:46.13 | hrw | koen: ;) |
14:47.45 | hrw | koen: I do not want to add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to linux_* recipe because those recipes are as clean as possible for kernel. |
14:47.45 | florian | ;) |
14:47.46 | koen | hrw: right |
14:47.46 | koen | hrw: so I'm adding them to all other recipes :) |
14:47.46 | hrw | ;) |
14:47.57 | hrw | someone here use(d) Gallery2 for managing photos on web? |
14:48.05 | koen | yes |
14:48.21 | koen | till I messed up a rewrite rule |
14:48.24 | hrw | koen: ;D |
14:48.38 | hrw | koen: I plan to create one for my albums |
14:48.41 | koen | it's pretty neat, but slow if you aren't carefull |
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14:51.40 | Zero_Chaos | Can i get someone to be my commit buddy, I've added a few things to the bug tracker that should be ready for commit. |
14:52.57 | Zero_Chaos | bugs 2356,2357,2361 if someone would be kind enough to commit my work.... |
14:53.02 | Zero_Chaos | :-) |
14:53.05 | koen | too bad one requires a patched qemu for EABI |
14:53.37 | chouimat | koen where are the patches? |
14:54.01 | koen | chouimat: in OE, on the scratchbox site, attached to the qemu list |
14:54.12 | chouimat | thanks |
14:54.13 | koen | lots of places to choose from :) |
14:54.43 | hrw | ~seen rwhitby |
14:55.20 | ibot | rwhitby is currently on #maemo (7h 31m 56s) #oe (7h 31m 56s) #openmoko (7h 31m 56s) #nslu2-linux (7h 31m 56s) #openjtag (7h 31m 56s) #openslug (7h 31m 56s), last said: 'can you pastebin what you are seeing?'. |
14:55.21 | koen | but afaik it's only required for one commandline emulation |
14:55.21 | koen | doing full emulation doesn't need those |
14:55.21 | hrw | rwhitby: alive? |
14:56.21 | koen | ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/i686-angstrom-linux/libsdl-x11-1.2.9-r1/SDL-1.2.9' |
14:58.21 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: can you post your bugs with 'mtn diff' output? |
14:58.59 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: does that mean I take the stuff, put it in place and then type "mtn diff"? |
14:59.28 | hrw | mtn add file file file;mtn diff |
14:59.51 | Zero_Chaos | awe geez... why is it never easy. |
15:00.03 | Zero_Chaos | sure, I'll give it a shot if it gets my work commited |
15:00.10 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: this way it will be easier for us |
15:00.31 | zecke | koen: ? |
15:01.02 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: can I do it just once for everything? or do I have to do it one and a time? |
15:01.03 | koen | zecke: ? |
15:01.31 | zecke | koen: ? |
15:01.32 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: once per each bug/request |
15:01.40 | zecke | koen: why do you stab sdl? |
15:02.30 | koen | because it breaks |
15:02.38 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: okay, but doesn't that mean I will have to wait for each commit before I can post the next request? otherwise "mtn diff" would have the previous ones as well.... |
15:02.53 | koen | Zero_Chaos: read the monotone manual |
15:03.33 | Zero_Chaos | no manual entries for mtn or monotone |
15:03.34 | Zero_Chaos | sweet |
15:03.44 | Zero_Chaos | I guess I'll start by googling. |
15:03.45 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: and this will give us also name of files |
15:03.50 | chouimat | monotone.ca |
15:03.53 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: mtn diff file file file file |
15:04.09 | hrw | NOTE: package rt2570-k2wrlz-1.6.0-r0: task do_build: completed |
15:04.16 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: thanks, that's what I needed to know. |
15:04.21 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: thanks for testing. |
15:04.31 | koen | Zero_Chaos: still read the manual |
15:04.38 | koen | we are not your personal FAQ database |
15:05.09 | Taekero | heh i was trying to get SDL 1.2.11 to compile under oe/angstrom, didn't get far with that myself.. i needed a special config with fbcon+tslib |
15:05.15 | Zero_Chaos | koen: I know you are not my personal FAQ, but I do have a lot of stuff I'm maintaining and I keep adding stuff so a little patience while I learn monotone would be appreciated. |
15:05.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f32005a... 10/ (1 conf/machine/guinness.conf): guinness.conf: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_xserver = "xserver-kdrive" |
15:05.38 | koen | [17:04] koen: Zero_Chaos: still read the manual |
15:05.45 | koen | I can be patient after you RTFM |
15:05.51 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, and after you read the manual, write up what you learn on the wiki :) |
15:06.18 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: I'm commiting new programs and updates to openembedded, let some other monkey write the docs ;-) |
15:06.32 | Crofton | :) |
15:06.47 | hrw | Laibsch: ping |
15:07.09 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: if I post mtn diff is that all you need? like I don't need to post the .bb and the patches, right? |
15:07.11 | hrw | Laibsch: you are bugmaster. can you add some padding/margin on left/right side in bugzilla? |
15:07.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2357 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
15:07.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2357] Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver |
15:07.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2357 |
15:07.28 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: mtn diff with all files/patches inside |
15:07.50 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I think I can do that, thanks for the help. in the long run this will likely be easier for me too ;-) |
15:10.50 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcd57d1eb... 10/ (1 packages/rt2x00/rt2570-k2wrlz_1.6.0.bb): rt2570-k2wrlz: added 1.6.0 version - close #2357 |
15:11.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1836 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
15:11.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1836] zaurus-clamshell.conf typos: sumtool uses |
15:11.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1836 |
15:11.35 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1827 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
15:11.37 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1827] remove 'inherit native' from mkfontscale |
15:11.39 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1827 |
15:13.27 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: take care of #1711 please |
15:15.07 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: did I do 2356 right? I just added the mtn diff. |
15:15.12 | Zero_Chaos | looking at 1711 now |
15:15.59 | Laibsch | hrw: I did not like the current layout either. I was thinking about putting the large logo to the left (better for widescreen ;-)) |
15:16.14 | Laibsch | If you guys don't mind I'll experiment a bit. |
15:16.15 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: 1711 is actually a different driver, I am supporting the enhanced version, not the serial monkey one. |
15:17.02 | hrw | Laibsch: I have widescreen and now I have to expand konqeror to 1320px to get bugzilla on screen |
15:17.30 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: did I do 2356 right? is that the mtn diff you need? |
15:17.38 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: sure, but you can ask that reporter to test your version |
15:17.47 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: 'mtn diff' is a command |
15:18.09 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I know it is, I attached the output of that command, looked right to me, but is it? |
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15:19.04 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: it is crap |
15:19.16 | koen | "Not one application program on any of my three Ubuntu boxes at home is compiled from source." |
15:19.31 | chouimat | ROFL |
15:19.53 | chouimat | koen cool someone copied the '0' and the '1' manualy ;) |
15:19.53 | hvontres|poodle | koen: were they inteligently created then ? |
15:19.56 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: http://pastebin.ca/505408 - this is example |
15:20.04 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I did it wrong or I didn't follow the style guide? |
15:20.26 | chouimat | koen source of this magnificient insightful comment? |
15:20.36 | koen | http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=235837&cid=19236313 |
15:20.37 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: make a change in file and then 'mtn diff file' and submit whole output |
15:21.02 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: this will give info which rev you diffed, which exactly files... |
15:21.20 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: this is a new program I'm adding. |
15:21.54 | koen | Zero_Chaos: read the monotone manual |
15:22.23 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: then create dir for it in packages/ then copy all files there. then 'mtn add -R dir', then 'mtn diff dir' and submit |
15:22.53 | chouimat | koen I'm impressed ... probably from one of those "TV expert you see on CNN or FoxNews" :) |
15:23.14 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: that's what I thought I did. |
15:23.39 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I made a folder in packages, moved my files there, and then typed mtn add for each file. |
15:23.48 | Zero_Chaos | then I mtn diff lorcon and attached output |
15:24.16 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: so you diffed file which is not in OE and want us to fix it? |
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15:25.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2365 has been created by likewise@gmx.net |
15:25.25 | cdbot2 | * * uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib |
15:25.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 |
15:25.50 | steliosk | heh half of Liverpool is in down town Athens, drinking beers :) |
15:29.15 | Zero_Chaos | I'll read the manual, but I honestly have no idea what I did wrong, it looks right and I did exactly as you said. |
15:29.55 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: its ok, I am confused as well |
15:30.55 | koen | WTF? |
15:30.57 | koen | [17:28] france verlaat de chatruimte. (Remote closed the connection) |
15:31.02 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: I just gave up yesterday trying to help the Angstrom project, and now I'm trying to add things to mtn but I am apparently retarded. |
15:31.06 | koen | didn't we ban his fascist ass? |
15:31.48 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: I dont have time to look now, Ill try tonight if I can get my computer working |
15:32.17 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: no worries, eventually I'll either get it right, or give up trying to share my work. hopefully the former |
15:34.53 | Laibsch | hrw: I don't think I have access to change the CSS |
15:35.00 | Laibsch | koen: Or do I? |
15:35.08 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: looks fine to me, I am as puzzled as you are |
15:35.21 | XorA | and I dont understand Laibsch's comment either |
15:35.24 | ggilbert | rbugzilla css? |
15:35.35 | Laibsch | ggilbert: yes |
15:35.39 | ggilbert | you don |
15:35.42 | ggilbert | don't |
15:35.51 | ggilbert | but if you send me any changes you'd like made, I can do them |
15:36.14 | Laibsch | ggilbert: OK. I will take a look but I have not worked on CSS for years |
15:36.17 | hrw | koen: does gallery2 allow to set photo as album miniature? now it use first one only |
15:36.21 | Laibsch | XorA: which comment? |
15:36.34 | XorA | Laibsch: the one issue per bug, when there is only one issue in the bug |
15:36.36 | koen | hrw: yes, 'highlight' in gallery speak |
15:36.43 | XorA | Laibsch: 2365 |
15:36.49 | ggilbert | btw, I vaguely remember some of the oe stuff being on hh.o. France isn't asserting any ownership over it, is he? |
15:36.59 | koen | ggilbert: not yet |
15:37.06 | ggilbert | good |
15:37.07 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: OE cant chmod because it doesnt run as root unless you are insane |
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15:38.07 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: seems like it is a danger though because now it is installing something that may or may not be chown/chmod properly to the embedded system |
15:38.16 | ade|desk | ggilbert: aren't we all |
15:38.28 | ggilbert | Laibsch: what in styling changes were you looking at making? I might be able to sort it out easily enough. |
15:38.30 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: hence I am circumventing safety features to get things to "make install" |
15:39.37 | Laibsch | !oebug 2365 |
15:39.39 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2365, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-23 08:23 |
15:39.40 | cdbot2 | * * likewise(AT)gmx.net: uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib '/lib/libc.so.6' for powerpc/angstrom/uclibc |
15:39.41 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 |
15:39.59 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: fakeroot? |
15:40.13 | chouimat | mwester: it's why I do all my OE stuff in a chroot :) |
15:40.16 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: useful tutorial somewhere? |
15:40.25 | Laibsch | man fakeroot? |
15:40.52 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: and this will let me chmod/chown the files properly? |
15:41.04 | Laibsch | yes |
15:41.07 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: that chmod is actually a waste of space anyway, making a man page owned by root, when it will be owned by root on install anyway |
15:41.33 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: how do i know that? how do I know it will be owned by root on install? |
15:41.39 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: fakeroot $whatevercommandyouwereusing |
15:41.51 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: when ipkg does tar -zxvf data.tar.gz |
15:42.26 | XorA | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, people stop bloody over complexing things |
15:42.28 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: so everything is owned by root? |
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15:42.31 | Laibsch | XorA: 2365? |
15:42.36 | Laibsch | No comment from me in there |
15:42.42 | XorA | Laibsch: 2356 |
15:42.47 | XorA | sorry typo |
15:43.41 | CoreDump|home | hi |
15:44.00 | XorA | a) the patch is corrent, b) its not circumventing any security issues, c) we seem to be making submission to OE an unclimable mountain |
15:44.08 | XorA | s/corrent/correct/ |
15:44.37 | CoreDump|home | !oebug 2356 |
15:44.38 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2356, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-21 16:54 |
15:44.39 | cdbot2 | * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: Loss of Radio connectivity |
15:44.40 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 |
15:44.57 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: well technically removing the chown's is circumventing security, but it's not too bad ;-) |
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15:46.06 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: only in the case where make install write to the host, its nonsense in makefile for cross compile |
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15:47.25 | Laibsch | ggilbert: As a quick fix a) put the OE logo on the left (this will add an inherent spacer on the left side), b) slim down the width of the "people" and "Details" boxes so this is readable on at least 1024x768 or smaller |
15:47.59 | koen | c) find a victim that makes a proper bugzilla3 template for OE :) |
15:48.58 | XorA | anyway time for me to find train home |
15:49.22 | Laibsch | XorA: I was not sure whether the patch was correct and thus requested review. I don't understand how you came to the impresseion you got |
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15:49.43 | XorA | Laibsch: one issue per bug, there is only one issue |
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15:49.58 | Laibsch | one issue, one bug should be clear from the quoted portion |
15:50.33 | XorA | Laibsch: there is only one issue, dont invent stuff from your imagination |
15:50.42 | Laibsch | Actually, I might have had a need to look closer on that one ;-) |
15:51.23 | Laibsch | XorA: Come on, this is not a big deal. I looked on it like five seconds and thought this was a separate request |
15:51.53 | Laibsch | "mtn diff" of the whole stuff might have made it obvious enough even for me ;-) |
15:53.46 | Laibsch | I think submission to OE is much more accessible now than six months ago when your stuff would rot in there for more than a year most of the time. |
15:54.01 | Laibsch | What was the turnaround on this one? Les than 24 hours or more? |
15:54.34 | Laibsch | That is what defines the unclimable mountain for me. |
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15:55.24 | Laibsch | A question too many does not kill you. No reaction at all is another story. As a submitter I'd rather have the former than the latter. |
15:55.43 | koen | I'd rather read a manual |
15:56.11 | Laibsch | koen: Go ahead ;-) |
15:56.18 | Zero_Chaos | This is actually the first time I've had any trouble submitting, as such it is a bit discouraging. I am, however, reading the tutorial and hoping to learn something. |
15:56.23 | Laibsch | Or tell the submitter to read a manual which was my point ;-) |
15:56.26 | Crofton | "Make My Day" |
15:56.41 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: This is not against you. |
15:57.07 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: i know, just pitching in ;-) |
15:58.15 | Laibsch | But educating submitters make sense because otherwise we will get dumped by one-offs who submit their favourite package which might need quite a bit of rework. They then fail to maintain it and thus it unnecessarily increases the workload for the few OE devs. |
15:58.33 | Laibsch | Having a bit of a hurdle is not so bad in my book |
15:58.52 | Laibsch | chouimat: What happened. You were playing with the fire again? |
15:59.05 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: I have taken responsibility for a number of reciepes and I have all intention of maintaining my work. I've even picked up a few that were not mine to begin with. |
15:59.24 | chouimat | Laibsch: I have a simple question ... I know I never learn ... |
15:59.29 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Again, this is not about you. And I know you are submitting stuff regularly |
15:59.46 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, we want to make sure you understand monotone :) |
15:59.56 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: I don't :-) |
16:00.04 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: but I'm learning slowly :-) |
16:00.10 | Crofton | :) |
16:00.14 | hvontres|poodle | Zero_Chaos: Think of this as a "Rite of Passage" on the way to your own commit acces :) |
16:00.16 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Monotone is easy and you will love it |
16:00.31 | Crofton | I understand enough to commit and not make a mess of things |
16:00.36 | Crofton | most of the time :) |
16:00.44 | chouimat | Laibsch: I probably have more experience in software development than most of them but they act like they are the top of the food chain :) |
16:01.04 | Crofton | ok |
16:01.13 | Crofton | NOW it is lunch time :) |
16:01.14 | Laibsch | chouimat: What is your question. Maybe you be better helped here? |
16:01.39 | Zero_Chaos | hvontres|poodle: yeah, I figured as much. I will take the time to learn as I know what the possible benefits are. |
16:01.44 | chouimat | Laibsch: I found the answer by myself ... took me a few hours of googling :) |
16:05.05 | ggilbert | Laibsch: k, it's on my todo list |
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16:12.00 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Is http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1510 a patch to OE or as I suspect a patch to the upstream source? |
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16:16.47 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: that is a patch to the source because OE doesnt' support -o root (chown) |
16:19.38 | Laibsch | Ok, as you know now that is not needed. |
16:19.56 | Laibsch | Is the bug report invalid? |
16:19.58 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: if I add fakeroot before it you mean? |
16:20.27 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: the "bug" reported is a new reciepe that isn't in OE |
16:20.28 | Laibsch | As XorA said it is not necessary at all since apparently ipkg will install as root in any case |
16:20.54 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: well I still need the patch, and I need to verify what XorA said, doesn't seem to make sense |
16:20.58 | Laibsch | OK, it has drawn out into a couple of tasks now |
16:21.30 | Laibsch | which does not help understandability |
16:21.55 | Zero_Chaos | it's okay, i don't mind learning about a better way to fix it. |
16:22.20 | Zero_Chaos | just a lot on my plate now. |
16:23.00 | Laibsch | I will commit the MAINTAINERS file change later and make a comment as to what is still open |
16:24.00 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Maybe this is insignificant, but I asked this in the BTS before |
16:24.10 | Laibsch | Why do you change file permissions in http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1518 |
16:24.14 | Laibsch | from 644 to 444? |
16:24.41 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: honestly, since I can't control who owns it, I figured I'd at least remove write permissions until I find a safer way. |
16:24.59 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: not like it really matters, but I felt a little better. |
16:25.30 | Laibsch | OK |
16:27.48 | koen | that doesn't make sense |
16:28.28 | koen | we don't want such hacks in OE |
16:28.44 | Zero_Chaos | root should own the man pages so that no one can write to them. however, since I cannot control who own it, I figured I remove write. |
16:28.49 | Zero_Chaos | koen: are you serious? |
16:29.05 | koen | yes |
16:29.12 | Zero_Chaos | koen: bitbake cannot support install properly and you call my work hack? |
16:29.24 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: fakeroot! |
16:29.33 | Zero_Chaos | koen: what did I do wrong? I am preserving as much security as possible. |
16:29.35 | koen | " bitbake cannot support install properly and you call my work hack?" shows how clueless you are about OE |
16:29.43 | Laibsch | or as Xora said it is owned by root anhow |
16:29.50 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: yeah I'll look into it, I'm still reading about mtn. |
16:30.23 | Zero_Chaos | koen: I took over something that was not maintained and that was the way it was fixed before I even started, but NOW you don't want suck "hacks" in OE |
16:30.42 | Laibsch | koen: being clueless about OE is not a disease and nothing to be ashamed of. I guess there are only about 3 to 5 people in the world really in the know about OE ;-) |
16:31.16 | Zero_Chaos | koen: I do not know that much about OE, and I'm happy to learn, but if you continue to berate me I could always choose not to submit my work. |
16:31.22 | koen | Laibsch: no, but pretending not to be clueless and going "OMG SECURITY!!!!" is something to be ashamed off |
16:31.32 | hvontres|poodle | Zero_Chaos: I think what koen was trying to say was that he would prefer to see this fixed using fakeroot instead |
16:31.35 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: There are things that have been done in the past which we don't want to continue |
16:31.40 | ggilbert | Zero_Chaos: There's no need to get upset, Koen just wants to make sure that the packages are built properly. |
16:31.48 | Zero_Chaos | hvontres|poodle: I agree, and I learned that like ten minutes ago. |
16:32.19 | koen | even if we mentioned fakeroot over an hour ago |
16:32.39 | Laibsch | koen: yes, you are right |
16:32.40 | Laibsch | but |
16:32.42 | Zero_Chaos | hvontres|poodle: and I still have no idea what it is other than the fact that someone told me I could just put "fakeroot" in front of the line and fix it. so when I'm done reading about mtn I'll read about fakeroot. |
16:33.02 | hrw | cu |
16:33.22 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos seems willing to learn. So let's give him the benefit of doubt. Live and learn! |
16:33.25 | Zero_Chaos | koen: either way, I based my work on someone else's, and I'm happy to improve it, but... I am still learning about mtn because apparently my mtn diff wasn't "proper" in some unknown way. |
16:33.40 | Zero_Chaos | So I'll work on fakeroot next :-) |
16:33.59 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: This is not so complicated. |
16:34.18 | Laibsch | fakeroot will act as a "fake root" |
16:34.39 | Laibsch | You can chown things to root without really being root for example. |
16:34.46 | hvontres|poodle | Zero_Chaos: And don't worry too much about koen...he is just not what you would call "Tech Support Material" :) |
16:35.19 | Laibsch | ture |
16:35.19 | Laibsch | true |
16:35.21 | Laibsch | OTOH, angstrom and OE would not be what it is without koen |
16:35.58 | Zero_Chaos | I know who koen is, and I try to show respect where it is due, but it wouldn't be a stretch to say he has been a little rough on me today. |
16:36.12 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: I agree that koen is a REALLY smart guy, just no your bet PR person. :) |
16:36.12 | Zero_Chaos | anyway, back to my tutorial |
16:36.14 | Laibsch | ~hail koen, the fierce St. Peter of OE ;-) |
16:36.21 | ibot | ACTION bows down to koen, the fierce St. Peter of OE ;-) and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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16:36.22 | koen | you continue to refuse to take advice |
16:36.31 | koen | of course I'm rough on people like that |
16:37.04 | CoreDump|home | actually you are mean to practically everybody |
16:37.22 | hvontres|poodle | koen: but we still like you :) |
16:39.22 | Zero_Chaos | koen: honestly, you are critiquing things I submitted more than 24 hours ago and expecting me to have done it like I knew what I know now. I'm not refusing to take advice, I just have not fixed it all yet. If you noticed, I stopped complaining about no one commiting my work, and I'm reading about mtn and fakeroot. Give me a little more time. |
16:39.41 | steliosk | CoreDump|home : alleluia brother :) |
16:40.38 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r8180f586... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-magicbox_2.6.19.2.bb): |
16:40.38 | CIA-4 | packages/linux/linux-magicbox_2.6.19.2.bb: Add TARGET_VENDOR to the |
16:40.38 | CIA-4 | objcopy so that it supports distro's that use. It should make no |
16:40.38 | CIA-4 | difference is TARGET_VENDOR is not set |
16:40.38 | CIA-4 | it |
16:40.45 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r1563f689... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-dht-walnut_2.6.20.bb): |
16:40.45 | CIA-4 | packages/linux/linux-dht-walnut_2.6.20.b: Add TARGET_VENDOR to the |
16:40.45 | CIA-4 | objcopy so that it supports distro's that use. It should make no |
16:40.47 | CIA-4 | difference is TARGET_VENDOR is not set |
16:40.52 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rcad48bac... 10/ (1 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb): |
16:40.52 | CIA-4 | packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb :Initial commit of meta package containing all the packages which build for OPLinux nad OPLinux |
16:40.54 | CIA-4 | uclibc distro |
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16:55.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2366 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
16:55.25 | cdbot2 | * * opensp-native fails do_compile |
16:55.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2366 |
16:56.12 | mrdata | hi |
16:59.12 | steliosk | koen : do the email notifications for commits work ? Haven't received anything for the last commits |
17:00.00 | koen | steliosk: yes, but they have a bit of a lag |
17:00.10 | steliosk | koen : ok |
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17:00.23 | steliosk | koen : did you check the script for the repo update ? |
17:00.31 | koen | didn't test it yet |
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17:04.27 | steliosk | !oebug 2315 |
17:04.28 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2315, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-14 12:50 |
17:04.29 | cdbot2 | * * sybren(AT)stuvel.eu: Asterisk misses speex module |
17:04.30 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 |
17:04.52 | koen | does the asterisk in OE support chan_bluetooth already? |
17:05.09 | steliosk | can someone check if their buid produced codec_speex.so ? normaly it should |
17:05.13 | steliosk | koen : nop |
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17:06.55 | koen | steliosk: I unclogged the mailq |
17:08.02 | steliosk | koen : ok they arrived |
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17:12.33 | steliosk | koen : comming soon -> http://rafb.net/p/D3JJw027.html :) |
17:13.16 | koen | what's a bri? |
17:13.32 | steliosk | isdn support |
17:13.36 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/ppc603e-angstrom-linux/asterisk-1.2.18-r5/asterisk-1.2.18/codecs$ ls *.so |
17:13.36 | koen | codec_adpcm.so codec_alaw.so codec_a_mu.so codec_g726.so codec_gsm.so codec_ilbc.so codec_lpc10.so codec_speex.so codec_ulaw.so |
17:13.52 | steliosk | so the bug should be closed |
17:14.34 | koen | seems that way |
17:14.45 | steliosk | basically we got full asterisk build including drivers for zaptel with big endian support |
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17:16.06 | steliosk | will you do it ? |
17:16.52 | XorA | WTF GF started legal proceedings about the #gpe channel |
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17:17.11 | CoreDump|home | he did? |
17:17.34 | XorA | CoreDump|home: apparently #gpe is held pending legal discussion with freenode |
17:17.41 | CoreDump|home | ah that |
17:17.50 | XorA | -ChanServ- [#gpe] Hi. This channel is currently held in trust by freenode staff awaiting a legal resolution. In the meantime, you can find gpe.handhelds.org in #handhelds-gpe, and gpe.linuxtogo.org in #gpe-project. Have a nice day, and thank you for using freenode. |
17:18.06 | CoreDump|home | that was actually florian s decision AFAIK, just in case... |
17:19.06 | XorA | CoreDump|home: ah phew |
17:19.10 | koen | using a chainsaw |
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17:19.53 | CoreDump|home | koen: we should nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be safe! |
17:20.13 | koen | CoreDump|home: the backup servers are at OSOSL |
17:20.25 | koen | next to kernel.org, freedesktop.org and nlu2-linux.org |
17:20.38 | koen | I'd like to keep those running :) |
17:20.42 | CoreDump|home | hrmmm |
17:20.45 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
17:21.06 | koen | tiny tactical nuke |
17:21.32 | CoreDump|home | I dislike the "tactical" part about that. It should be messy |
17:22.06 | CoreDump|home | OTOH, kernel.org and friends have probably off-site backup servers as well =) |
17:22.12 | steliosk | CoreDump|home : its tactical before you deploy it... afterwards its really messy |
17:22.14 | hvontres|poodle | koen: how about a "bug" in the scsi driver that causes the heads to "park" themselves all over the disk :) |
17:22.22 | Crofton | WHo is this guy? |
17:22.27 | CoreDump|home | muhaha |
17:22.52 | CoreDump|home | he is the only person banned on #oe =) |
17:22.56 | koen | Crofton: one of the hh.org founders |
17:23.07 | koen | CoreDump|home: it seems the ban was lifted :( |
17:23.09 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: George France, CEO and self-anointed God of hh.org, inc |
17:23.20 | CoreDump|home | * #oe Bannliste: Mon May 21 00:37:11 *!*@handhelds/founder/france |
17:23.49 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: he used to be a really cool guy :\ ( At least IMO ) |
17:24.00 | Crofton | people get weird |
17:24.03 | koen | [17:30] koen: WTF? |
17:24.03 | koen | [17:30] koen: [17:28] france verlaat de chatruimte. (Remote closed the connection) |
17:24.04 | koen | [17:30] koen: didn't we ban his fascist ass? |
17:24.17 | koen | ('verlaat' == leaves) |
17:24.27 | Crofton | we had a local fellow that woould get to know people, then freak them out with crazy behavior |
17:24.32 | CoreDump|home | koen: only his mask is banned, not the nickname "france" |
17:25.33 | CoreDump|home | his ban in #openzaurus is a little bit more "generic" ;) |
17:25.33 | Crofton | kergoth, is probably wishing he could erase Integrity, like I hope I did yesterday :) |
17:26.06 | CoreDump|home | !oebug 1000 |
17:26.57 | florian | hvontres|poodle: quite unlikely... these trademarks are registered to him in person |
17:27.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2315 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by skoroneos@digital-opsis.com |
17:27.24 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2315] Asterisk misses speex module |
17:27.26 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2315 |
17:27.35 | florian | koen: it might be better just to fork it... its quite easy and we could get rid of a lit of crap |
17:27.37 | koen | if he's correct about hh.org, shouldn't the trademarks and right be part of compaq/hp? |
17:27.49 | CoreDump|home | !oebug 1000 |
17:27.50 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1000, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-05-17 05:27 |
17:27.51 | cdbot2 | * * Terminar(AT)cyberphoria.org: glibc 2.3.2-initial_2.3.2+cvs20040726 bits/* problem |
17:27.52 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1000 |
17:30.34 | koen | actually, I ponder about seeing how usable the apt+deb images are |
17:30.37 | CoreDump|home | lets wait with the forking until he actually gets the trademarks please |
17:31.02 | koen | with all the patches psokolovsky puts in OE we have effectively forked it ;) |
17:32.09 | florian | heh |
17:32.32 | koen | ops |
17:32.37 | koen | OMG package system |
17:33.04 | Laibsch | I like that one! |
17:33.07 | Laibsch | ;-) |
17:33.18 | koen | because it forces me to use forumspeak? |
17:33.26 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 375 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
17:33.28 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 375] mpeg2dec and libmpeg2 provide the exact same |
17:33.30 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 |
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17:33.51 | hvontres|poodle | koen: can we get ops to play the valley-girl OMG when it's done? |
17:34.12 | koen | hvontres|poodle: valley girls scare me |
17:35.31 | XorA | does packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb break anyone elses bitbake? |
17:35.56 | koen | chouimat: that's called bitbake ;) |
17:36.02 | chouimat | koen ;) |
17:36.28 | chouimat | koen why not got for erpm (Embedded RPM) ... |
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17:37.22 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1918 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by skoroneos@digital-opsis.com |
17:37.24 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1918] Add soft-float support for powerpc targets |
17:37.26 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1918 |
17:37.43 | likewise | oept-goet instoel <soeme voery nicoe poeckoege-versioen> |
17:38.07 | likewise | s/instoel/instoell/ |
17:38.08 | hvontres|poodle | likewise: swedish chef? |
17:38.18 | likewise | swoedish choef |
17:38.20 | steliosk | XorA : how it breaks bitbake ? |
17:38.23 | chouimat | likewise: dutch based Interface? |
17:38.25 | koen | bork bork bork |
17:38.47 | likewise | chouimat: no, OE infected apt tools |
17:38.52 | chouimat | hehe |
17:38.57 | koen | OE, the kde way |
17:39.07 | koen | s/<vowel>/OE/g |
17:39.14 | Laibsch | Is Joaquim Duran around? Anybody know his nick? |
17:39.55 | hvontres|poodle | likewise: we could call it bpm, the Borked Package Manager...that way if it Borks your system we can point back to the name :) |
17:40.18 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: LOL |
17:40.26 | CoreDump|home | hehe I like that |
17:40.53 | koen | Borg Package manager: assimilate <package> |
17:41.11 | koen | with bittorrent backend |
17:41.13 | hvontres|poodle | koen: does that one use -force by default? |
17:41.22 | koen | hvontres|poodle: yes |
17:41.59 | koen | hvontres|poodle: see the line below the logo: http://ohm.freedesktop.org/wiki/ |
17:42.00 | hvontres|poodle | koen: hmm, I think MS is aready using that one.... |
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17:42.44 | XorA | steliosk: if you saw it you would know :-) |
17:43.26 | steliosk | XorA : saw what ? |
17:43.45 | XorA | steliosk: how it blows up on parsing |
17:44.11 | steliosk | XorA : which bitbake version ? I am using 1.6.7 here and works |
17:44.35 | XorA | steliosk: the info I need is does it work for anyone, that is enough |
17:44.51 | koen | only 5 weeks left till 1.8.x world domination |
17:44.59 | steliosk | XorA : works for me :) |
17:45.13 | koen | steliosk: btw, can asterisk use gnutls instead of openssl? |
17:45.14 | XorA | steliosk: cool, must be disk/ram corruption here still :-( |
17:45.16 | hvontres|poodle | koen: errgggg... I like the logo too... |
17:45.34 | chouimat | anyone know a good and easy to use CMS that can use postgresql? |
17:45.40 | koen | ERROR: 1 while parsing /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb |
17:45.55 | koen | chouimat: drupal can use postgres |
17:46.12 | steliosk | koen : not sure never tried it |
17:46.17 | koen | XorA, steliosk: http://rafb.net/p/GjI6NV66.html |
17:46.40 | chouimat | koen easy to use? |
17:47.12 | koen | chouimat: once you get the hang of it, yes |
17:47.19 | koen | chouimat: but every CMS confuses me |
17:47.27 | steliosk | hmmm. not showing up in 1.6 |
17:47.40 | steliosk | haven't tested with 1.8 though |
17:47.55 | chouimat | koen I just need to build (finaly) my website ... and I don't want to lear mysql :) |
17:47.57 | Crofton | anyone familiar with u-boot and booting from NAND? |
17:48.48 | koen | steliosk: I think bitbake dislikes the 3 space tabs |
17:49.17 | likewise | Crofton: not quite. My First NAND (u-)boot was last week... |
17:49.31 | Crofton | is the board in 1.2.0? |
17:49.51 | Crofton | I am trying to convert the DV EVM u-boot to a board that boots from NAND |
17:49.52 | likewise | 1.1.6 AIRC, but it needed patches. |
17:51.39 | XorA | koen: thats the error |
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17:59.23 | likewise | Crofton: I tried googling for the board I used (MPC8313) but I cannot find the patches online. |
18:00.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2367 has been created by folkertvanderbeek@gmail.com |
18:00.26 | cdbot2 | * * angstrom poodle: no suspend support |
18:00.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2367 |
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18:01.19 | likewise | How do we support a multiple configurations of one package? I would like to create a lighttpd-minimal and lighttpd-ssl-webdav or somesuch. |
18:01.22 | koen | hey pH5 |
18:01.34 | likewise | s/a multiple/multiple/ |
18:01.37 | koen | likewise: most of the times two recipes |
18:01.51 | koen | unless it supports 'plugins' |
18:02.33 | pH5 | hey koen |
18:02.46 | likewise | ok, then is the normal package name (lighttpd-1.4.15.bb) the minimal config or maximal config, or somewhere inbetween? |
18:03.13 | koen | that's open to debate |
18:03.36 | likewise | I'll create lighttpd (http only) and lighttpd-ssl-webdav (http/https/webdav) then. |
18:04.31 | koen | and I'll respond with my usual "use cherokee" |
18:05.33 | steliosk | no beer left in Athens... Liverpool funs in town for 2 days :) |
18:06.52 | steliosk | XorA, koen : please sync with the rep and retry oplinux-packages |
18:06.52 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r597edaa8... 10/ (1 packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb): packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb: fix some tab/spaces issues that made bitbake 1.8 complain when processing the package |
18:09.41 | hrw | re |
18:09.51 | Zero_Chaos | so let me get this straight, fakeroot is emulating UID0 not / ? |
18:09.59 | Zero_Chaos | wow, all these years, I had no idea |
18:10.20 | koen | steliosk: still an error over here |
18:10.46 | Zero_Chaos | do I need to depend fakeroot to use it? |
18:11.41 | likewise | fakesu |
18:11.43 | likewise | :-) |
18:12.32 | likewise | koen: cherokee does not do webdav (...i think...) and /me hides |
18:12.44 | Zero_Chaos | anyone tell me, I presume I should depend fakeroot if I'm using it... is that right? |
18:13.00 | likewise | Zero_Chaos: I assume that this in the manual |
18:13.10 | Zero_Chaos | the OE manual? |
18:13.14 | Zero_Chaos | where can i find that? |
18:13.27 | koen | likewise: correct: http://www.cherokee-project.com/bugs/browser/cherokee/trunk/TODO |
18:13.31 | likewise | http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_fakeroot |
18:13.46 | Zero_Chaos | likewise: many thanks |
18:14.12 | Zero_Chaos | wow, so simple. |
18:14.22 | likewise | Zero_Chaos: it took me 5 seconds to look that up, pls. try yourself before asking the really obvious questions |
18:15.26 | Zero_Chaos | likewise: I was reading fakeroot's useless website, I lost mental stability, I'll attempt to improve :-) |
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18:15.57 | likewise | Zero_Chaos: no problem. I tend to ask stupid questions myself. |
18:16.06 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rc40d025f... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): lighttpd: Added 1.4.15, for those clueless about cherokee. |
18:16.35 | likewise | I also like www.openembedded.info |
18:17.14 | koen | likewise: v8jlene is moving that to org.openembedded.documentation |
18:17.30 | likewise | ~hail v8jlene |
18:17.46 | ibot | ACTION bows down to v8jlene and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
18:17.47 | Crofton | a cool domain name though :) |
18:18.24 | steliosk | koen : same error ? |
18:18.42 | koen | looks the same |
18:20.54 | steliosk | will get 1.8 installed and try it..... but its strange if its something wrong in the included python script 1.6 should also complain about it.... |
18:22.32 | hrw | cu |
18:23.14 | koen | steliosk: you'd want 1.8.x anyway for your compile cluster :) |
18:23.37 | likewise | hmm, supporting upstart will probably affect all *bb...<gulp> |
18:24.00 | koen | likewise: that's why I stayed away |
18:24.24 | koen | likewise: it probably needs an upstart.bbclass as well |
18:24.24 | steliosk | koen :we are trying to get a "stable" version out and then move to 1.8 |
18:24.38 | likewise | koen: so we then should have a depend on the init system in use? |
18:24.54 | koen | likewise: to have the magic in a common file |
18:25.01 | koen | like update-rc.d.bbclass |
18:26.58 | koen | time to watch NCIS |
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18:31.25 | chouimat | koen http://republicans.oversight.house.gov/Media/PDFs/FY06FISMA.pdf |
18:31.34 | chouimat | koen it's scary :) |
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18:42.55 | koen | heh |
18:47.16 | Laibsch | Can a package at the same time PROVDE foo and RPROVIDE foo? |
18:48.58 | koen | sure |
18:48.59 | koen | remember that those are really different things |
18:48.59 | koen | PROVIDES works on OE/bitbake level and RPROVIDES on ipkg level |
18:48.59 | Laibsch | yes, which is why I was wondering |
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18:57.20 | florian | re |
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19:05.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2069 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by r.farina@adelphia.net |
19:05.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2069] ettercap fails to build. |
19:05.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2069 |
19:06.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2072 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by r.farina@adelphia.net |
19:06.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2072] zaurus wifi |
19:06.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2072 |
19:07.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2074 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by r.farina@adelphia.net |
19:07.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2074] opie-rdesktop build failure |
19:07.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074 |
19:11.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED () by santeri@santeri.se |
19:11.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1852] Bison contains path to buildsystem |
19:11.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= |
19:12.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2356 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by r.farina@adelphia.net |
19:12.25 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2356] Loss of Radio connectivity |
19:12.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2356 |
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19:14.29 | florian | hi zecke |
19:14.30 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc0e5be03... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update my entry |
19:14.37 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re4bf9588... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update Rick Farina's entry, partly closes bug 2356. |
19:14.47 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2070b07a... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
19:14.47 | CIA-4 | libmpeg2: drop from OE. |
19:14.47 | CIA-4 | Reason: mpeg2dec provides libmpeg2, see bug 375 |
19:14.54 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r59d79931... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/files/errordb-keysymdb-path-fix.patch): xorg-lib: drop unused errordb-keysymdb-path-fix.patch |
19:15.02 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r93674ba3... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt: add gtkmm 2.4.8 for removal. See bug 1184 for further info. |
19:15.08 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2095c717... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update my entry |
19:15.26 | zecke | anyone planing to go to the LinuxTag and needs a ticket? |
19:16.41 | koen | ah, drat |
19:16.54 | koen | linuxtag is happening at the wrong time |
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19:22.32 | XorA | ah bollox my computer is fscked |
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19:24.55 | XorA | my zaurus 3200 is now my fastest machine |
19:25.19 | Kristoffer | lol |
19:26.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2368 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net |
19:26.25 | cdbot2 | * * Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver |
19:26.26 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 |
19:26.48 | ljp | even faster than your desktop? |
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19:35.59 | Zero_Chaos | !oebug 2368 |
19:36.01 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2368, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-23 12:23 |
19:36.02 | cdbot2 | * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver |
19:36.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368 |
19:36.33 | Zero_Chaos | is this all correct and happy? if so, can someone commit it? |
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19:51.27 | Zero_Chaos | someone at least tell me if I did it right? |
19:52.40 | summatusmentis | Zero_Chaos: what are you trying to do? |
19:53.20 | Zero_Chaos | summatusmentis: I was schooled earlier on how to properly submit something to OE, and I wanted someone to check that I have complied. |
19:53.47 | summatusmentis | hrm... that bug report looks good, but I didn't know there was a protocol for it |
19:54.01 | Zero_Chaos | summatusmentis: nor did I until this morning. |
19:54.03 | Zero_Chaos | :-) |
19:54.22 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, I'll take a quick look |
19:54.26 | summatusmentis | what is the protocol? is it online somewhere? |
19:54.29 | Laibsch | let's not call it protocol |
19:54.41 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: were you here for my schooling? you know what they were looking for? |
19:54.42 | Laibsch | This is best practice and common ground |
19:54.45 | Laibsch | It helps everyone |
19:54.53 | Crofton | a little |
19:55.12 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: There is a page in the OE wiki with policies |
19:55.24 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: ok, that's fair, I'll go look for them, I didn't know there was any such thing |
19:55.35 | Crofton | This bb file contains stuff I am not good at though |
19:55.40 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: it only concerns the devs |
19:55.45 | Laibsch | more or less |
19:55.45 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: I agree only one issue I've run into. If I have to modify MAINTAINERS each time I add something, I cannot add two things without a commit in between because the diffs would be odd. |
19:56.11 | Laibsch | ? |
19:56.29 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: well, my hope is to help out w/ dev sometime this summer, so... good to know |
19:56.29 | Crofton | mtn commit path_to_file |
19:56.36 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: a) you don't need to add every package you ever added to MAINTAINERS |
19:56.39 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: I don't have that access ;-) |
19:56.49 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: b) I don't understand the problem |
19:57.05 | Crofton | mtn diff path_to_file maybe? |
19:57.05 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: c) I am sure mtn can handle it |
19:57.06 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: I thought MAINTAINERS was appropriate so people could complain to the right person |
19:57.08 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, you may be able to commit locally |
19:58.08 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Of course, it is good if you do it. But most people don't add every package but indicate a general interest or a class of packages |
19:58.17 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton: point is, I change the line once, then change it later, if the diffs are applied in the wrong order it will bug out |
19:58.52 | Crofton | ok |
19:59.11 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Well, maybe one issue at a time was not so wrong after all |
19:59.15 | Crofton | I haven't worked with many kernel modules |
19:59.20 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Just do the Maintainer file last |
19:59.34 | Laibsch | Only if you want to |
19:59.39 | Crofton | so I do not know if what you have is OK |
20:00.35 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: you mean just modify maintainer once when I know I'm adding a lot? I can do that, I was just worried that wasn't "proper" |
20:00.35 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: but I do understand what you are getting at, now. So b) is no longer an issue ;-) |
20:00.35 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, in a sense we are all MAINTAINERs |
20:00.40 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: I think you are worrying too much now ;-) |
20:00.41 | Crofton | From time to time, update your entry |
20:01.01 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: forgive me for worring too much, I was schooled this morning. |
20:01.13 | Crofton | do we have a field for things we used to maintain, but lost interest in? |
20:01.14 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: Despite the impression you may currently have, we are all warm, loving humans ;-) |
20:01.29 | Crofton | Zero_Chaos, koen can be rough |
20:01.32 | CosmicPenguin | I wouldn't go that far |
20:01.32 | Crofton | but he is a good guy |
20:01.35 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: I'm aware, someone (a few of them even) had a bad day, and I learned something. |
20:01.36 | Laibsch | Crofton: That would be the delete key |
20:01.40 | Zero_Chaos | so, no worries |
20:01.43 | likewise | Laibsch: :-) |
20:01.48 | Crofton | heh |
20:01.56 | CosmicPenguin | This project was build on a solid foundation of zero-tolerance for cluelessness |
20:01.57 | Crofton | Well, I added something I used to need |
20:02.15 | Crofton | and no longer care about, but I think others have used it |
20:03.01 | Laibsch | Crofton: Again, just remove it from MAINTAINERS. You are still visible via mtn log and that won't change. |
20:03.02 | Crofton | true :) |
20:03.25 | Laibsch | Crofton: people like me who don't find an entry in MAINTAINERS will consult "mtn log" and thus find you |
20:03.29 | Laibsch | You cannot hide ;-) |
20:04.02 | Laibsch | this is your past - live with it! |
20:04.09 | Laibsch | Be a man now! |
20:04.16 | Crofton | every bad idea I ever had is in a log somewhere |
20:04.28 | Crofton | this is open source dev at it's finest! |
20:04.32 | anttix | koen You online? Thanx for committing my patch :) |
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20:05.21 | anttix | However koen I'd love if You could take a look at this issue as well http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2353 |
20:05.35 | anttix | The fix is very easy ;) |
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20:07.13 | [cc]smart | so if i get it right, the name GPE was introduced by german comapny kernelconcepts. do they not defend angainst gpe trademark takeover ? |
20:08.35 | Laibsch | ibot: botmail for ifaistos: Your oplinux change throws strange errors at parse time. Please take a look and fix. |
20:15.46 | [cc]smart | Q: We have the "makedevs" package. busybox has if i got it correct taken over this idea and implemented it as a busybox component. Now i would like an enhancement to it. So i ask myself if it was better in this case to play with own makdevs or, which i think might be better, think of it as an upstream thing in busybox... ? |
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20:16.30 | Kristoffer | [cc]smart upstream is always best |
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20:48.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2369 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net |
20:48.25 | cdbot2 | * * Loss of Radio connectivity |
20:48.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2369 |
20:49.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1350 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2367 *** by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
20:49.25 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1350] 3.5.4.2-rc1 GPE Poodle suspend hang |
20:49.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1350 |
20:49.53 | koen | WTF? |
20:49.57 | koen | # The below line doesn't work, is there a way to remove the file from the -dev.ipk? |
20:50.08 | koen | # FILES-DEV_${PN} -= "${libdir}/liborcon.la" |
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20:50.20 | koen | that is some serious crack you're smoking |
20:50.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2353 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
20:50.26 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2353] xserver-xorg 1.2.0 package broken |
20:50.28 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2353 |
20:50.36 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1809 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2367 *** by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
20:50.38 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 1809] GDE under poodle won't suspend right, |
20:50.40 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1809 |
20:52.26 | xuumbi | cbrake: ping |
20:53.01 | cbrake | xuumbi: Hi Jim |
20:54.20 | xuumbi | cbrake: I was wondering if you've seen bad blocks and/or file system read/write errors on any of the cm-x270 boards you've worked with |
20:54.47 | cbrake | xuumbi: I had a lot of problems with ext2 on top of the compulab NAND driver |
20:55.06 | cbrake | xuumbi: JFFS2 on a 64MB partition has been very solid for me |
20:55.10 | xuumbi | cbrake: ah, that's our environment right now |
20:55.45 | xuumbi | cbrake: I'm wondering if ARMmon doesn't check for bad blocks, and the mtd tools do |
20:56.15 | cbrake | xuumbi: I ran an automated test where I yanked power while writing to the disk several thousand times and the JFFS2 filesys came through :-) |
20:56.20 | xuumbi | cbrake: we're seeing lots of intermittent file input/output errors |
20:56.30 | xuumbi | cbrake: nice |
20:57.05 | cbrake | xuumbi: yup, I've seen the same. I'm not exactly sure what is going on, but another compulab customer reported that if you reboot several times it heals itself ??? |
20:57.24 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2370 has been created by r.farina@adelphia.net |
20:57.25 | cdbot2 | * * 802.11 Sniffer and much more! |
20:57.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2370 |
20:57.29 | xuumbi | cbrake: hmmm, I don't know about the reboots, I guess I'll try that the next time I see it |
20:57.44 | koen | cbrake: tried logfs yet? |
20:57.54 | cbrake | koen: no, I've been watching it |
20:58.09 | xuumbi | cbrake: oh I wanted to ask you, your JFFS2 flashing system, does it pull the image from a thumb drive? |
20:58.14 | cbrake | koen: but have not had time to play with it. We really need it for these large NAND parts. |
20:59.40 | cbrake | xuumbi: yes. One the schemes I've implemented puts the kernel, NOR rootfs, and NAND fs in a tar file with a MD5 check file, extracts this, updates the kernel and NOR if needed, and then updates the NAND fs. |
21:00.10 | cbrake | xuumbi: the tar file is just a file with a special name on a USB disk that the system looks for on boot |
21:01.47 | koen | cbrake: indeed, once you go above 128MB, jffs2 is a pain |
21:01.50 | cbrake | xuumbi: another senario we are looking at getting the update file over a network -- everyone wants something slightly different. |
21:02.20 | koen | cbrake: logfs also has a *much* better low-space garbage collector algorithm |
21:02.50 | koen | cbrake: you might have noticed that jffs2 needs a few % free space to stop it from self destructing |
21:03.31 | koen | logfs needs far less free space to do gc and wearleveling |
21:04.23 | xuumbi | our boards have 128MB of NAND, so we're on the fence about JFFS2 |
21:04.47 | xuumbi | but with all the file input/output errors we're having could push us over the edge |
21:04.58 | koen | jffs2 s pretty decent |
21:05.12 | koen | yaffs is just too scary |
21:05.22 | cbrake | xuumbi: I would put your main rootfs in a 64MB partition or whatever and you data in a second partition. |
21:05.44 | cbrake | xuumbi: that way the main rootfs mounts reasonably quickly and you can mount the data partition later in the boot process |
21:05.55 | xuumbi | cbrake: yes that could be a solution |
21:09.33 | koen | jffs2 also doesn't support >4GB |
21:09.47 | koen | but I suspect no one would want to use it on 8GB partitions ;) |
21:10.30 | chouimat|away | koen but it will be fun :) |
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21:33.02 | RP | koen|away: I'd not recommend logfs since its error handling consists of BUG_ON() :/ |
21:34.55 | rwhitby | hrw|gone: you were looking for me? |
21:43.35 | Zero_Chaos | someone be my friend, I have a few mtn diff's that beg for commit. |
21:46.51 | Zero_Chaos | so if someone would be my friend, 2361, 2368, 2369 and 2370 are all mtn diff that are ready for commit |
21:51.01 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: you need to patch checksums.ini as well |
21:51.15 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: say what ? |
21:51.16 | Zero_Chaos | :-) |
21:51.56 | Zero_Chaos | I remember someone telling me how to add a checksum to the download SRC_URI, but i totally forget how. |
21:52.13 | Zero_Chaos | of course that isn't what you said anyway. |
21:52.31 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: #2368, what happens with non arm CPUs? |
21:52.54 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: check conf/checksums.ini and learn by example. provide both md5 and sha256 for downloads |
21:52.59 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: it compiles using "make" not "make arm" |
21:53.17 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: yessir. I'll add the checksums |
21:53.39 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: so why is it needed to compile with make arm on ARM |
21:53.45 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: but not make ppc on powerpc? |
21:55.08 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: it's in the make file, and I think it may only support x86 and ARM |
21:55.18 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: but I am not certain on that |
21:57.51 | Crofton|home | Zero_Chaos, most of the devs are in EU, so they are out for the evening |
21:58.05 | Crofton|home | I am US, but not at work anymore |
21:58.09 | Crofton|home | must ride bike |
21:58.50 | Zero_Chaos | Crofton|home: no worries, I'll get to doing what zecke said and add the checksums |
21:59.29 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: I added some more questions to the bug reports, if you work on it, feel free to pester me tomorrow to commit it |
21:59.35 | Crofton|home | why do you need to add a checksum to the bb file? |
22:00.12 | zecke | Crofton|home: checksums.ini |
22:00.19 | Crofton|home | yeah looking |
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22:00.58 | Crofton|home | this is to "improve" quality? |
22:00.59 | zecke | Crofton|home: well, projects have the habbit to alter tarballs post a release, and you do not want to ship a binary of a tarball you have not seen |
22:01.03 | Crofton|home | yeah |
22:01.05 | Crofton|home | ok |
22:01.20 | Crofton|home | but if something is not entered, the old behavior appiles? |
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22:01.38 | zecke | Crofton|home: old behaviour as in not checking? |
22:01.43 | Crofton|home | yeah |
22:01.58 | zecke | Crofton|home: yes, I would love to disable it soonish :) |
22:02.03 | Crofton|home | it would calculate a check sum:) |
22:02.06 | Crofton|home | or soemthing |
22:02.12 | zecke | There are some aspects with checksums |
22:02.19 | Crofton|home | I'll make a note to add checksums for things I care about |
22:03.06 | zecke | sorry, I'm too tired... |
22:03.21 | Crofton|home | 1AM over there? |
22:03.31 | Crofton|home | or 2 for you? |
22:03.32 | zecke | no, 0:0 |
22:03.42 | zecke | but I think this was a tough day |
22:04.03 | Crofton|home | well I need to ride, gn |
22:10.12 | hrw | re |
22:10.16 | hrw | rwhitby: yes. |
22:10.41 | hrw | rwhitby: wanted to know how goes angstrom for nslu2 |
22:12.37 | rwhitby | there is a mokoslug distro, which is a cut-down angstrom which boots on nslu2 (or at least it used to - haven't tested it for a while). I (or someone else) need to find time to merge that stuff back into Angstrom proper (it's not very much) so that Angstrom will build for small flash devices. The new task-base stuff should have made that much easier. |
22:13.19 | hrw | rwhitby: ok. |
22:13.43 | hrw | rwhitby: slug under my desk is waiting for hdd which is on desk and now runs openslug |
22:14.16 | rwhitby | also, altboot is not integrated into Angstrom for the slug yet, so there is no turnup replacement yet. |
22:14.57 | hrw | rwhitby: and no access to bootloader without making serial cable? |
22:15.26 | rwhitby | you can load via reset button method and upslug2 - completely safe |
22:15.39 | hrw | rwhitby: I know - thats how I put openslug on it |
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22:16.25 | hrw | rwhitby: can slug hold tftpd/cups/bt-ap/nfs server in one time? |
22:16.45 | rwhitby | it can if it's running openwrt ;-) |
22:17.09 | rwhitby | are you talking about internal flash, or just processing power and ram? |
22:17.13 | hrw | I do not care about openwrt |
22:17.19 | hrw | power/ram |
22:17.31 | hrw | I will have 40GB hdd connected |
22:17.34 | rwhitby | the openwrt jibe was just about fitting stuff in internal flash :-) |
22:17.50 | rwhitby | dunno about cups - all the rest are low memory footprint |
22:18.16 | rwhitby | I've done tftpd and bt-ap together before with minimal ram usage |
22:18.50 | rwhitby | give it a try and see ... |
22:19.05 | hrw | I need tftpd for one devboard here |
22:19.55 | hrw | main reason for slug is nfs and tftpd now |
22:20.05 | hrw | bt-ap and cups are extras |
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22:35.41 | hrw | cu |
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22:44.00 | Zero_Chaos | is there a variable that points to /usr/share? |
22:45.05 | CIA-4 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rad5421a4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/opendreambox.conf): conf/distro/opendreambox.conf: disable getty on normal ttys |
22:45.35 | hrw|gone | Zero_Chaos: ${datadir} |
22:45.51 | Zero_Chaos | thanks |
22:48.49 | Zero_Chaos | oplinux-packages.bb doesn't parse, boo |
22:48.49 | Zero_Chaos | I think someone was fixing that though |
22:48.50 | Laibsch | I think it was fixed. |
22:48.50 | Laibsch | update your OE tree |
22:49.17 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: i can't right now, i made a million changes and are not compatible and I don't feel like reverting until my stuff is added ;-) |
22:49.59 | hrw|gone | Zero_Chaos: you can update workspace with mtn when you have own added/changed files |
22:50.26 | Zero_Chaos | hrw|gone: this is all a bit new to me, I'll just keep it simple for right now ;-) |
22:50.40 | Laibsch | Zero_Chaos: That is why we use mtn, after all |
22:50.57 | Laibsch | It will not overwrite your changes |
22:51.51 | Zero_Chaos | Laibsch: I know I know, my point is, I don't understand it right now, like at all, but I need to fix some other requests that are more pressing. the parse error doesn't stop work ;-) |
22:52.53 | Laibsch | that is of course true. And I do understand the feeling |
22:52.58 | Laibsch | Never touch a running system |
22:53.34 | hvontres|poodle | Zero_Chaos: I think if you replace the tab with four spaces in the offending line the parse error will go away :) |
22:53.52 | Zero_Chaos | hvontres|poodle: no worries |
22:53.59 | hvontres|poodle | time to go home now :) |
22:54.07 | Zero_Chaos | got to run, free preview of "Knocked Up" |
22:54.08 | Zero_Chaos | later all |
22:57.40 | Crofton | hmmm |
22:58.01 | Crofton | sounds like he has his priorities in order |
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23:31.23 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2354 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by antti.andreimann@mail.ee |
23:31.25 | cdbot2 | * * [Bug 2354] xf86-input-keyboard 1.2.0 needs xserver |
23:31.27 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2354 |
23:33.16 | anttix | koen You're my hero :) Thanx for fixin xorg packages, now I can get rid of my own modifications in our local tree. |
23:33.52 | anttix | However I'm a dedicated pain in the butt, if You could also fix mesa build on FC6 (another silly, but easy fix) I'd owe You two more beers ;) http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 |
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