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03:39.50leoncamelmorning .. ~! :)
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07:06.01koengood morning all
07:06.53NAiLmorning koen
07:07.44v8jlenemorning
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07:27.24rob_whi
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07:27.40rob_wsorry as i did ask this once before , but i did not managed it ,...
07:27.51zeckehey
07:27.57rob_whow can i inject a version string dependant on which date the build was performed ?
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07:30.47zeckePV = 1.0+${DATE} and I hope this matches our versioning policy
07:31.46rob_wzecke , cool but can i inject this inside the code of my application somehow ,, so that also inside my code this date is known ?
07:33.40zeckerob_w: well you do do CPPFLAGS_append = " -DROB_DATE=${DATE} "
07:34.05zeckerob_w: and then you could do std::string version = ROB_DATE;
07:34.49rob_wahh ,, does this also apply on C only ? like CFLAGS etc
07:35.22zeckerob_w: bah, who is writing C code anyway?
07:35.37zeckerob_w: actually CPPFLAGS 'should' apply to both c and c++
07:35.55zecketreat that should skeptical
07:36.03rob_wi see
07:36.10rob_wi give that a go
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07:49.21CIA-903nail 07org.oe.dev * r2cafd704... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openntpd: Sanitize, and drop old version
07:49.26CIA-903nail 07org.oe.dev * ra5fd29ad... 10/ (1 packages/watchdog/watchdog_5.2.bb): watchdog: Sanitize
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07:50.51koen"Just rm -r usr/lib/ipkg"
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07:50.59koen~lart pavel machek
07:52.23RPmorning akk
07:52.35RPkoen: What did he do?
07:53.00hrw|workmorning
07:53.01koentop entry in http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/
07:53.07koenhey hrw|work & RP
07:53.14RPhi hrw|work
07:54.05RPkoen: Ah, reinventing the wheel :-/
07:54.25koenand removing the axis as well
07:54.51koenI don't think ipkg likes it when you remove its status file and alternative database
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07:55.55RPkoen: Its one way to free up space though I guess :)
07:57.26koenI suspect it's a lot easier to install bootstrap-image and install X from there
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07:57.39do13_morning all
07:57.47RPhi Dirk
07:58.04do13_hey Richard
07:58.53koenhey Dirk
07:59.37koenzecke showed some way to shrink binaries with -funit-at-a-time yesterday
08:00.00do13_hey koen
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08:02.26hrw|workhi dirk
08:03.05NAiLkoen: btw, xchat 2.6.1.bb misses a "=" after SECTION ;)
08:03.11do13_hey Marcin
08:04.09koenNAiL: talk to psokolovsky, he touched it last
08:05.28NAiLtrivial, to say the least :P
08:05.40v8jleneHehe... I've been resisting the urge to fix that all day ;)
08:05.42CIA-903nail 07org.oe.dev * r78bcf1f7... 10/ (1 packages/xchat/xchat_2.6.1.bb): xchat: Fix missing '=' after SECTION
08:06.31hrw|workhttp://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200609102259 ;DDD
08:08.28NAiLhahah
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08:12.15XorAmorning
08:12.40koenhey XorA
08:13.07do13_hi XorA
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08:17.30koenPackaged contents of sl into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/sl_3.03-r0_armv5te.ipk
08:17.41koenafter 3 years, I have finally packaged it for OE :)
08:18.52v8jleneNAiL: You left the sanatize.py errors and warning in the wakelan bb (they are comments, but don't really need to be in the bb)
08:19.05NAiLheh
08:19.25hrw|workkoen: was is sl?
08:19.57koenhrw|work: 'apt-get install sl ; sl'
08:20.05NAiLv8jlene: thanks ;)
08:20.10koenit teaches you not to misspell 'ls' :)
08:20.34hrw|work;)
08:21.38CIA-903nail 07org.oe.dev * r8584e3f2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openntpd: Upstream upgrade to 3.9p1
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08:22.54hrw|workdo13_: did you played with CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND? maybe it will replace usbctl
08:24.14rob_wzecke, works , thanks !
08:25.56CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rd2e1959c... 10/ (1 packages/sl packages/sl/sl_3.03.bb): sl: add 3.03
08:26.06do13_hrw|work: Afaik, this puts devices into suspend state but doesn't disable the power
08:26.15zeckerob_w: hehe
08:26.42zeckerob_w: now do me a favor and stop writing apps in this language called 'C'
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08:27.29zeckekoen: the important bit with unit-at-a-time is to have a huge unit
08:27.33rob_wi actually plan to get my c++ skills updated .. as it seems trolltech catches up in terms of markets
08:27.36zeckekoen: e.g. the complete application
08:28.02zeckerob_w: hehe, nice answer
08:28.11zeckerob_w: may I ask what you are coding?
08:28.32CIA-903lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r161c11a8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/titan.conf):
08:28.32CIA-9machine titan: Add machine file for the sh4 based TITAN boards (Nimble NP51R
08:28.33CIA-9and jjplus LinkGear Series 100).
08:28.38CIA-903lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rc3ccb88c... 10/ (1 conf/machine/wrap.conf):
08:28.38CIA-9machine wrap: Add machine file for the geode(i486) based WRAP boards from PC
08:28.38CIA-9engines.
08:28.56hrw|work~curse konqueror
08:29.03ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, konqueror !
08:29.03rob_wam doing a visualisation and controlling app for big bio-gas engines , where the visuals are gtk and my deamon is c
08:29.12zeckeman I'm tired...
08:29.15v8jleneHeh, zsh already corrects sl to ls for me ;)
08:29.22zeckerob_w: interesting
08:29.55zeckeoh, I will fall asleep immediately...
08:30.04rob_wthat it is , but yet we might need to close the gui also , so then i will have to learn c++ for probiatory qt
08:30.13rob_wsleep well , dude
08:30.44zeckerob_w: oh no, I must stay awake in the office :}
08:30.56zeckerob_w: I shouldn't have hacked until 5 a.m :}
08:31.22rob_wif you where in japan , they do allow naps
08:31.44zeckei could lock the door and leave the key in the lock...
08:32.33v8jlenezecke: Once you get to 5.00am you might as well have keept on going ;)
08:32.59do13_hrw|work: can you give it a try? this put the device into suspend state. in this state the device should consume less than 500 uA
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08:33.54hrw|workdo13_: can test it a bit during evening - but first have to find out/know how to check does device is suspended
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08:38.00zeckeoh cyril has found sone missing source packages
08:38.07zeckehttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=113&logfile=20060910170215.log&format=raw
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08:41.46hrw|workhttp://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/ - Intel Core Quad
08:42.15florian_kcgood morning
08:43.01v8jlenezecke: zip & unzip have new versions, old versions moved. I'll add the new versions.
08:43.02zeckehrw|work: you know that intel licensed the multiple core IP from IBM/POWER?
08:43.12zeckev8jlene: beware
08:43.34zeckev8jlene: I have fallen victim of this thinking in the past
08:44.04zeckev8jlene: if no security issue lead to the release of the new version it is best to find the old source
08:44.18zeckev8jlene: upload it somewhere, then consider upgrading
08:44.40zeckev8jlene: e.g. I remember a issue where 'zip' didn't use the crosscompiler to compile
08:44.43v8jlenezecke: Yeah, I always look at the changelogs, test it and sometimes diff it...
08:44.51zecke:)
08:45.07v8jlenezecke: Anyway, I lied... looks like it's actually ok.
08:46.11v8jleneFalse alarm, must have been a temp failure of the site. All ok.
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08:46.32zeckeanyone knows a good lab creating "mini-me's"?
08:47.48zeckeI'm glad cyril is doing sanitizing/bittest now
08:49.32zeckemtn:      1,2 M |    861,9 k |        320/3.741 |          81/926
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09:04.18hrw|workzecke: do you know what to do when konq hang after RMB click?
09:07.27zeckehrw|work: disable plugins
09:09.08leoncamelhi, folks. what kind of machins is "tosa" ?
09:09.14koen~tosa
09:09.20ibottosa is probably the Sharp SL-6000 PDA, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm)
09:09.41leoncamel~poodle
09:09.42ibotsomebody said poodle was sl-5600/b500, or a dog
09:10.45CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rff6f66dc... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc): uclibc.inc: allow EABI uclibc builds
09:12.07CIA-903nail 07org.oe.dev * re483dba7... 10/ (1 packages/eventlog packages/eventlog/eventlog_0.2.5.bb): eventlog: Add package eventlog
09:12.35hrw|workzecke: which plugins? netscape like plugins?
09:12.51leoncamelhmm, is there any hardware feature list of Sharp SL-6000 PDA .
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09:13.13hrw|workleoncamel: tosa = pxa255/400, 64M ram, 64M flash, usb host, usb wifi
09:13.54leoncamelis there any Sharp PDA which using PXA 27x ?
09:13.59hrw|workleoncamel: sd slot, cf slot, sleeve slot (second cf + battery), internal battery (1800mAh iirc), small keyboard
09:14.07hrw|workleoncamel: cxx00 ones
09:14.23zeckehrw|work: kdeaddon plugins
09:14.25leoncamelhrw|work, OK. thanks.
09:14.34hrw|workzecke: but how?
09:14.42hrw|work~hail alt-f9 combo
09:14.43ibotACTION bows down to alt-f9 combo and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
09:14.43leoncamelhrw|work, do you mean "c7x0" ?
09:14.58NAiLhmm
09:15.01zeckehrw|work: if you press RMB it will query service types (KTrader using ksycoca) and it will load plugins like (KUICK Copy To, Move To)
09:15.07NAiLIs there a template .bb anywhere?
09:15.20zeckehrw|work: you can a) run kbuildsycoca to regenerate the cache and see if something changes
09:15.29zeckehrw|work: or you could remove the kdeaddons package :}
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09:15.53zeckeBTW: rooms are 100% secured for friday, saturday and sunday
09:16.08zeckewe have a beamer, net, whiteboards
09:16.55hrw|workzecke: cool
09:17.08RPzecke: nice work :)
09:17.13hrw|work~lart kdeaddons
09:17.36RPzecke: We have a final location then?
09:17.39koenzecke: so the 'final' place is known as well?
09:17.42leoncamelwhat dose this mean ? "GUI_MACHINE_CLASS = "bigscreen"" ?
09:18.00leoncamelbigscreen = VGA screen ?
09:18.07hrw|workleoncamel: or higher
09:18.26hrw|workleoncamel: smallscreen = <vga
09:18.37leoncamelhrw|work, what dose it exactly do ?
09:18.39hrw|workzecke: kbuildsycoca does not help ;(
09:18.49hrw|workleoncamel: another selector for apps in gpe images
09:19.11leoncamelhrw|work, I mean what extra parameters did it append ?
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09:19.49leoncamelhrw|work, I am not clear. which "selector" ?
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09:20.48zeckeRP: koen : Yes. Sadly the final place is next to S-Bahnhof Attila-Strasse
09:21.40zeckehttp://www.stadtplandienst.de/fastlink.asp?key=f54f6725dfba16453da0f4fa1d407e37
09:21.50zecke(only valid for the next 48 hours)
09:22.11hrw|workleoncamel: if GUI_MACHINE_CLASS == bigscreen then install 1 2 3 4 5;elseif smallscreen then install 8 4 7
09:23.17zeckehttp://www.bmco-forum.org/index.php?id=28
09:23.22zeckefor exact coordinates
09:27.24RPzecke: thanks
09:31.34leoncamelhrw|work, OK. I got it .
09:48.04CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rf381f851... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): uclibc_svn: remove patches that have been applied upstream
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10:05.07lrgmorning all
10:05.27hrw|workhi Liam
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10:06.08lrghrw|work: I'm cleaning up new touch patch today, will send later.
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10:07.35koenhey lrg
10:08.38hrw|worklrg: thx
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10:14.13do13_hey Liam
10:22.11hrw|work~lart pavel machek
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10:22.57zeckeany 'file' or ELF expert around?
10:23.02RPhi Liam
10:23.25RPlrg: Did you have any thoughts on that params_format issue? Could you reproduce with madplay?
10:24.52do13_hrw|work: his patches?
10:25.03hrw|workdo13_: his LJ posts
10:25.04lrgRP: unfortunately not. I'm start a poodle build tomorrow. This should give me your setup and I'll see what happens. Btw, fixed mplayer alsa pause (although mplayer alsa pm still broken)
10:25.07hrw|workhttp://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/27576.html
10:25.25lrgRP: will send new patch today
10:25.48hrw|workdo13_: his ways to get something working (how to get X working on collie with usage of hammer and few other hardcore tools but without using brain)
10:25.50RPlrg: Was 32 bit support something recently added to ASoC?
10:26.15lrgRP: yes
10:26.35lrgRP: although, I have the only hw that it works on
10:26.42RPlrg: So its possible, the OSS emulation is broken with respect to it?
10:27.06RPlrg: Can spitz support 32 bit sound?
10:27.29do13_hrw|work: cool we free a lot of space in flash:)
10:27.33lrgRP: spitz can only support 16 bit due to pxa2xx i2s limitation
10:28.10lrgRP: the only way to get > 16 bits on pxa2xx is to use the ssp ports for audio
10:28.35RPlrg: It seems we're advertising 32 bit capability to userspace in the resulting bitmasks :-(
10:29.11RPlrg: That suggests the capabilities aren't being restricted by the transport capabilities properly :-/
10:29.36RPs/transport/dai/ ?
10:29.39lrgRP: I've fixed an issue here wrt this. The DMA mask was overiding the codec/DAI mask.
10:29.52lrgRP: now they are all ANDED
10:30.05lrgRP: so we only get the common bits.
10:30.11RPlrg: ah, something like that might do it
10:31.00RPlrg: I know ASoC thought it was capable of 32 bit. I just wasn't sure if that was the case and if not, where the limiting factor was :)
10:34.50XorAlrg: morning
10:37.16koenlrg: could you (or mikearthur) write a small story on your OE experiences from a IHV point of view?
10:37.46koenlrg: something we can evaluate at OEDEM
10:43.05lrgkoen: mike has finished now, so it looks like I'll have to write something.
10:50.33hrw|meeting;(
10:50.42hrw|meeting~meetings
10:50.58hrw|meetingmeetings must be destroyed
10:51.11hrw|meetingbb in 1.5-2h
10:52.11zeckewhere is pb_?
10:56.36koen~lart uclibc
10:57.08florian_kczecke: i wondered about that too
10:57.59zeckeflorian_kc: he is missing for a couple of weeks :(
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11:28.14CIA-903rpurdie * r603 10bitbake/lib/bb/cache.py: cache.py: The cache doesn't really need to know about any progress callback - adjust logging accordingly
11:29.22florian_kczecke: Nils got a mail from pb_ almost three weeks ago, that's the last i heared.
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11:34.02CIA-903rpurdie * r604 10bitbake/ (bin/bitbake lib/bb/shell.py):
11:34.02CIA-9bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py:
11:34.02CIA-9bitbake/bin/bitbake:
11:34.02CIA-9Split collect_bbfiles into collect_bbfiles and parse_bbfiles
11:34.02CIA-9Allow -b option to accept an expression which uniquely identifies a .bb file instead of requiring a full path
11:34.05CIA-9Disable BBFILES support within .bb files (it was already non-functional)
11:39.39koenRP: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PLbOpr25.html
11:42.51zeckeRP: stupid question, is bittest broken now?
11:43.20RPzecke: Did it use collect_bbfiles?
11:44.08RPkoen: Could you try http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_buildfiles.patch ?
11:45.04koenRP: NOTE: package uclibc-0.9.28+svn20060911: started
11:45.14RPkoen: thanks :)
11:46.34CIA-903rpurdie * r605 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: bin/bitbake: parse.handle must have an absolute path
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12:04.49zeckeRP: IIRC it uses collect_bbfiles
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12:06.06zeckeRP: I better look at the commit first
12:09.00zeckeRP: okay, your patch looks reasonable and I shouldn't use bin/bitbake anyway
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12:09.32zeckeRP: *sorry*, I fear I sound like bitching even If I'm 100% daccord with your changes and happy you place your energy there :)
12:09.37RPzecke: You can convert by making the change I made to the shell
12:09.54RPzecke: Don't worry, I know what its like when people break things :)
12:10.34zecke;)
12:10.38RP:)
12:11.37RPzecke: I just didn't want to duplicate the BBFILES logic for my extension to the -b command
12:11.54zeckereasonable :)
12:12.06zeckeI think I have a copy of collect_bbfiles already
12:12.26RPzecke: What do you think about converting the dep graph code to use taskData?
12:13.32zeckeRP: Have you comitted stuff like crazy?
12:13.49zeckeRP: I have little clue about the graph code
12:13.54RPzecke: define crazy? :)
12:14.06zeckeRP: +20 revs
12:14.22RPzecke: In that case, yes :)
12:14.43RPJust a few little tweaks I'd been thinking about for a while ;-)
12:15.53RPzecke: When you wrote the graph code, you forked the providers code - can you remember why?
12:15.59zeckeRP: http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake/trunk/bitbake_qa/lib/bittest/fileparser.py?rev=315&view=markup <- does it make sense to have a unified collect_bbfiles
12:16.10zeckeRP: and what would we win by changing the graph code?
12:16.45RPzecke: The dep graphs would be guaranteed to match the dependencies as taskdata sees them ;-)
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12:17.32RPzecke: Does bittest want to find any .bb file or take into account BBMASK and BBFILES?
12:17.43zeckeBBFILES and BBMAK
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12:17.58RPzecke: I'd say a common funciton then
12:18.15RPzecke: Maybe in the parser __init_.py rather than bin/bitbake :)
12:18.24zeckeyes :)
12:18.34zeckeRP: okay the taskData argument is quite strong :)
12:19.28koendoes trunk still pass the unit tests?
12:20.02zeckekoen: the things RP has touched are not covered by tests so far
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12:20.42zeckeRP: we have an ancient bug report about the graph code that we walkt it twice
12:20.42RPzecke: and therefore bug free? :)
12:21.05RPzecke: taskdata is probably worse :-/
12:21.09RPzecke: taskdata needs optimising
12:21.20RPbut taskdata is the future :)
12:21.30RPIts not that slow and can only get faster :)
12:21.35zeckeRP: passing tests does not show you are free of bugs
12:21.42zeckeRP: well, we can at least close the old bug
12:22.22RPzecke: I know, regression free is perhaps a better way of putting it ;-)
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12:23.05zeckeRP: I have to look at taskData, but if you say it is the future :)
12:23.05RPzecke: We could write a test of the taskdata code if we convert the depgraph code - check it always generates the same depgraph for a given set of metadata :)
12:24.03zeckeRP: I have a nice dark, quite room here. I will lock you there and exchange testing against food ;)
12:24.27RPzecke: hehe :)
12:26.59zeckeokay, I will hack on my insanity.bbclass now
12:27.02zeckelater :)
12:27.21RPzecke: cya
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12:31.58koenhmmm
12:32.18koenadding uclibc support for new machines and distros is a bit complicated
12:32.55koenespecially since someone put theirs in 'arm'
12:33.00zeckelol berkeley db 4.4 doesn't eat data when crashing?
12:33.23suihkulokkiwhat a stunning new feature for DB
12:33.48zeckesuihkulokki: it is quite radical and I would have assumed a name change
12:33.59zeckesuihkulokki: e.g we have used Berkeley DB as shred replacement
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12:42.59chouimatmorning
12:43.10koenhey chouimat
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12:45.21koenCrofton|home: still watching tivo?
12:47.38Crofton|homeheh
12:47.42Crofton|homenot atm :)
12:48.07Crofton|homeI should extract some stuff to watch though
13:19.10RPlrg: static is gone :)
13:22.28lrgRP: :)
13:23.01RPlrg: I have another less serious bug - audio doesn't resume if you suspend/resume :-/
13:23.23lrgRP: is this with mplayer ?
13:23.30RPlrg: madplay
13:23.36RP(so oss)
13:24.55lrgRP: madplay worked with suspend resume ok yesterday. I think there is some issue with the pxa2xx i2s port. It may need a magic udelay() on resume.
13:25.41RPlrg: ok, I'll try and experiment with that at some point
13:26.37lrgRP: I'll see if I can repro as well
13:36.20hrw|meetingre
13:36.46hrw|worklrg: did you get poodle?
13:37.44lrghrw|work: yes thanks. it arrived on friday afternoon.
13:38.03lrghrw|work: I still have to create a build for it.
13:38.17lrghrw|work: probably do that tomorrow
13:38.51hrw|worklrg: great
13:39.01koenhrw|work: could you update http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/ProjectDevices ?
13:39.02hrw|worklrg: can you add info to OE Project Devices page?
13:39.15hrw|workkoen: ;)
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13:39.58chouimathi koen hrw|work
13:40.46florian_kcvery good
13:41.00RPlrg: Ah, you have a poodle - great :)
13:41.26florian_kchrw|work: i'm just building oz with updated dbus for tosa... i gess you could test the image, right?
13:41.31koen"In the beKinninK there was a freaK Keyboard malfunKtion from eKsKessive typinK of the word (insert here a half-KirKle, opened to the riKht)ool resultinK in damaKe to the letter (insert here a half-KirKle, opened to the riKht). On the third day it was proKlaimed henKeforth the letter 'K' would be used instead"
13:42.25hrw|workflorian_kc: I can in the evening
13:42.31chouimatkoen huh?
13:42.53koenchouimat: from http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/KDE
13:43.07koendeliberately misspelling words annoys me
13:43.35hrw|work"KDE is the swiss army Knife of desKtops: it has more features than anybody aKtually Kneeds and it's shiny." :D
13:44.13chouimatkoen me too ... and some people even in gnome lack imagination when they name their apps ;)
13:44.25lrghrw|work, koen: wiki updated
13:44.27koenyeah
13:45.01koenthe current gnome "let's think of a silly word" is mildly annoying as well
13:45.09koenbut ubuntu fixes that in their menus
13:45.41chouimatLOL "In a cruel twist of fate, two Nigerian widows are genuinely fighting it out for their husband's (yes, the same husband) $55M fortune. The BBC has the full scoop. Who wants to bet we're abot to see a whole lot of 419's from 'The Wife of the Late Timothy Olufemi Akanni?'"
13:45.50florian_kchrw|work: ok, great
13:45.52hrw|worklrg: you have 2nd poodle
13:46.04hrw|worklrg: I'll edit it a bit and post donor
13:46.14lrghrw|work: thanks
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13:47.20chouimatkoen I hate ubuntu ...
13:50.03hrw|worklrg: sent mail
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14:02.04hrw|workRP: http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/11/please-do-not-follow-pavel-machek-way/
14:05.28koenheh
14:06.45hrw|workkoen: ?
14:06.57koenhttp://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/11/please-do-not-follow-pavel-machek-way/
14:07.23koenI also didn't comment on his LJ, thinking "some people don't want to learn"
14:08.00hrw|workI comment on his LJ from time to time
14:08.19hrw|workkoen: but this post has too many infos to be lost somewhere
14:08.38koenI gave up after his "I installed debian for bash and gpsdrive" nonsense
14:09.31chouimatwhere is this collie-2.6?
14:09.33mithrohrw|work: you in poland?
14:10.14hrw|workmithro: yes
14:10.31hrw|workchouimat: OpenZaurus 3.5.4.2-rc2 provide bootstrap image
14:10.42mithrooo.. how long has apt-get had this functionality? "apt-get install --reinstall all-installed-packages"
14:10.49chouimathrw|work: cool ...
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14:11.23hrw|workmithro: all-installed-packages == `cat lista-pakietow.text`
14:12.06mithroo :P
14:12.16hrw|workmithro: it can be done in one line too
14:15.26hrw|workmithro: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg -l|grep '^ii' | awk -F"  " '{print $2}'` - but this will fail as some packages need to be configured before rest
14:15.47hrw|workmithro: so lista-pakietow.text is better
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14:28.45RPhrw|work: Its a nice sane reply :)
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14:31.56psokolovskyRP: random question out of my mind: is there a way to time code execution down to cpu cycle with oprofile, reliably?
14:33.39RPpsokolovsky: oprofile is a statisitical profiler - it doesn't log specific events. If you want specific events loot at lttng
14:34.15RPpsokolovsky: oprofile will just tell you what percentage of CPU time was spent in a given function
14:34.34psokolovskyRP: well, I mean, pass it a (short) code buffer to execute, it disables the interrupts and clocks it
14:34.51RPpsokolovsky: Nothing does that
14:35.28RPpsokolovsky: I'm not even sure why you'd want to do that
14:35.29psokolovskyRP: and would it be hard to do that? (I mean, is there existing interface which could be used for that?)
14:35.47RPpsokolovsky: Yes, it would be hard, no existing interface
14:36.05psokolovskyRP: heh, just random thought on doing automated, genetic algorithm, peephoel optmization for ARM ;-))
14:36.09psokolovskyok
14:36.16RPpsokolovsky: You'd be better off writing an instuction analyser for the instruction set
14:36.42zeckelater
14:37.03psokolovskyRP: yes, that would be part of that. but i think fo full automation and cpu independence. well, just thoughts ;-)
14:37.46hrw|workRP: thx
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15:08.14CIA-903MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r6fcc6d1d... 10/ (1 packages/nylon/simple-firewall.bb): simple-firewall: fix CVSDATE/SVNDATE confusion.
15:08.16CIA-903MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r4ca57ebd... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
15:08.16CIA-9libpcre: fixes resulting from renaming pcre->libpcre
15:08.16CIA-9* the recipes in libpcre now contain the code from the removed pcre packages (sorry for the mess)
15:08.16CIA-9* nylon-feed now DEPENDs on libpcre instead of pcre
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15:43.24T0mWI have a question about the bb file hierarchy.  I want to add a new machine to "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files/base-files", must I put that machine description under that dir?  Or, can I put the bb file in my local tree and have it referenced?
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15:44.06T0mWsomething like "zipitbbfiles/base-files/base-files/<my machine>"
15:44.32hrw|workT0mW: yes
15:44.56T0mWor, would I have to copy the entire "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files" tree into my private tree?
15:45.36hrw|workrather copy
15:46.16T0mWAh, and, put the BBFILES entry for my tree as the first in the list of locations to scan?
15:46.47kergothbest off not relying on BBFILES order.  use bitbake collections to ensure yours is the priority
15:46.50hrw|workor use BBCOLECTIONS
15:46.52T0mWe.g.: BBFILES = "my_path org.openhardware.dev/path"
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15:47.08T0mWthanks, I'll look into it.
15:47.34T0mWthe copy is needed though, correct?
15:47.51T0mW"base-files_3.0.14.bb"
15:48.09T0mWO
15:48.13T0mWdrat
15:48.44T0mWI'm just trying to keep from sprinkling my system definition around inside the org.openembedded.dev tree
15:49.46Croftonwhat not just add them to dev?
15:50.10T0mW`busyCrofton: I'm just afraid that I'll do something stupid like delete that tree
15:50.30Croftonah
15:50.34T0mW`busyCrofton: also, I would like to make my bb files available for others to use.
15:50.55Croftoncommit them to dev?
15:51.12T0mWCrofton: heh, yeah, I could do that too.
15:51.29CroftonIf you would like, you could send them to me and I can commit them
15:51.39CroftonIf you are worried abuot the mechanics
15:52.20T0mWwell, I'm not worried about the method of the commit, I assume it is going to be similar to cvs/svn style of commit
15:52.24T0mW?
15:52.50T0mWI think I will need a dev account, then what software? GIT?
15:52.55hrw|workT0mW: monotone
15:53.00T0mWah, good
15:53.13T0mWdo I need a developer account?
15:53.20hrw|workT0mW: show us patches, we will give you r/w (or not)
15:53.33hrw|workT0mW: to be able to commit/push: yes. to use OE: no
15:54.06T0mWnp, thanks, It will be sometime before I finish polishing my stuff before I would show it you.  I will do that.
15:54.27T0mWI'm still on the slippery slope of the learning curve with OW
15:54.34T0mWs/OW/OE
15:56.24hrw|workhmm 9h30m of burnK7 and home machine still works. 64.5°C
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15:57.32CoreDump|afkhrw|work: use prime95 for h/w testing
15:58.01hrw|workCoreDump|afk: mprime is nice too - but does not force machine to such temp.
15:58.17kergoththere's still no easy way for one package to poke into the metadata of another, correct?
15:58.46CoreDump|afkactually it does, if you renice it to 0 =)
15:59.01florian_kchrw|work: http://handhelds.org/~florian/tosa/
15:59.11hrw|workflorian_kc: ok. will look at home
15:59.29florian_kchrw|work: many thanks
15:59.52hrw|workflorian_kc: can you add md5?
16:01.13florian_kchrw|work: done
16:01.16hrw|workthx
16:01.50hrw|workburnMMX failed..
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16:02.23chris144good afternoon folks
16:02.33hrw|workhi chris144
16:02.38chris144hi hrw|work
16:02.42CoreDump|afkhrw|work: are you testing for a stable O7´´o/c or are you just checking your home machine?
16:03.00hrw|workCoreDump|afk: checking
16:03.35hrw|workCoreDump|afk: this cpu can be nicely o/c anyway
16:03.58kergothmy x86_64 box hates me
16:04.20Croftonkergoth, why?
16:04.23kergothif i boot without noapic, my rtc freaks out.  if i boot with it, my sound card freaks out
16:04.39CoreDump|afkfwfw, burn* ran fine here for hours, but tripple mprime renice'd to 0 showed problems _really_ fast
16:04.41kergothif i boot without one of acpi=off or noapic, the kernel aborts early saying the timer isnt connected to the apic or somesuch
16:05.00hrw|worksomeone remember how to get returncode of app in bash?
16:05.25Crofton$? ?
16:05.41hrw|workyep..
16:05.49hrw|work~lart me for &?
16:05.58chris144folks, is there any chance to get a "named" account for the wiki? I'd love to contibute to the wiki, but as "anonymous" it doesnt look right to me...
16:06.22hrw|workchris144: there is no way to register?
16:06.24Croftonkergoth, my x86_64 has a no_timer_check in the kernel args
16:06.42kergothpretty sure i tried that already, but i'll try it again
16:07.10hrw|workburnMMX gave 254 - integer/memory error
16:07.16chris144hrw|work: not that I know, I asked koen some time ago when the new wiki was very fresh he said he dint figure out yet how to do the login stuff etc.
16:08.04hrw|workchris144: realname, email please
16:08.15hrw|work"This web page allows the administrators to register a new users by hand. Note that you cannot have a user where either the e-mail address or the username match another user in the system."
16:08.40hrw|workchris144: I suggest realname to be 'name surname' instead of nickname
16:09.04chris144hrw|work: Christopher Lang, christopher.lang@chl-informatik.de
16:09.47hrw|workchris144: "Password and further instructions have been e-mailed to the new user Christopher Lang."
16:10.07chris144hrw|work: cool stuff. thanks!!
16:10.10chris144:-)
16:11.17hrw|workhmm. if burnMMX fails then it looks like memory problem. but memtest86 does not fail... will have to look more at ram then
16:11.49chris144hrw|work: got the mail...
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16:14.12hrw|workok
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16:16.25hrw|workcu
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16:26.17kergothCrofton: no luck, mine still freaks out :(
16:26.25kergothsays the 8254 timer isnt connected to the IO-APIC
16:26.34kergothwhatever that means, x86 is voodoo to me
16:26.37kergothheh
16:27.03emtekergoth, you dont need sound anyway do you?
16:27.11kergothhehe
16:27.16emteyou could buy a cheap usb soundcard :)
16:27.34kergothtrying acpi=off apicpmtimer, so itll use the local apic timer instead of the PIT, maybe thatll help
16:28.50chouimathi kergoth
16:29.32emteso i guess MS got tired of too many people refusing to upgrade to w2k/XP ?
16:29.40kergothhey chouimat
16:31.48emtehearing funny things about the Opanki worm
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16:39.40joshinSo, what's the current procedure to submit a new .bb file?  
16:40.51mickeylRP: did you book yet?
16:40.58mickeylRP: (oedem hotel, that is)
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16:42.30RPmickeyl: not yet, no. Any recommendations?
16:43.02mickeylRP: looks like there are two in direct vincinity (2km)
16:43.06mickeyl1.) Berliner Bär
16:43.10mickeyl2.) Alt Tempelhof
16:43.12mickeylboth 3 stars
16:43.23RPI think Tomas was thinking of 2)
16:43.50mickeylok, cool, let's just settle on that, then we are three
16:44.46Crofton?
16:44.50Croftonhttp://www.alt-tempelhof.com/ ?
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16:45.33mickeyld'oh. nothing available
16:45.57RPmickeyl: :-(
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16:47.49reenooevening
16:49.15RPmickeyl: Was that through the web or phoning them?
16:49.19mickeylweb
16:49.42RPmickeyl: ok. tf said there were spaces last week :-/
16:50.47florian_kcbbl
16:52.35RPmickeyl: Let me know where you end up and we'll try and get the same place
16:52.40mickeylRP: will do
17:04.45mickeylRP: ok, i've booked the "Berliner Bär" now.
17:04.52mickeylthis is 3km from the conference location
17:05.00mickeylincluding breakfast
17:05.37RPmickeyl: ok, I'll talk to tf
17:05.38koen|gprsmickeyl: is the bear close to downtown?
17:06.54mickeylkoen|away: ya, i think so. and it's pretty close to all kinds of public transportation
17:07.18koen|gprsI'll suggest that hotel to Nynke :)
17:07.45mickeylwho's that?
17:08.03koen|gprsmy girlfriend, who will be planning the trip
17:08.08mickeylah, cool
17:08.14mickeyl"secretary" ;)
17:08.16koen|gprswe'll be staying till monday to see berlin
17:10.06mickeyloh cool.
17:10.21mickeyland she won't be bored on friday and saturday?
17:10.32koen|gprsmickeyl: RP's overlay patch doesn't apply to 2.6-ezx, so that will have to wait till stefan_schmidt releases a 2.6.18-ezx
17:10.42koen|gprsmickeyl: she said she wouldn't be bored
17:10.57koen|gprsenough shops in berlin ;)
17:11.01mickeylheh, true that
17:11.06mickeylbe sure to take all your CC with you :D
17:11.18koen|gprs:D
17:11.22mickeylok, while i'm in hotel booking mood...
17:11.40koen|gprsI just received a notification from fed-ex that google shipped the SoC cheque
17:11.47mickeylkoen|away: excellent
17:12.04mickeyli hope my mentee got his one as well
17:13.19koen|gprsmickeyl: there has been some noise on the mentor list about splitting up organizations
17:13.35koen|gprsmickeyl: the kde-office team wants to be a seperate org next year
17:13.57mickeylkoen|gprs: i see. i guess they want to have more projects for individual orgs
17:14.26koen|gprsbtw: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/frs/?group_id=18&release_id=8
17:14.39koen|gprsno need to bother figlabs ;)
17:15.04mickeylhehe, nice
17:16.58koen|gprslater all
17:17.13joshinIs there something wrong with the following line:  SRC_URI = "http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/downloads/libtorrent-${PV}.tar.gz"
17:17.26joshinIt doesn't seem to even try to grab the file
17:17.28mickeyllooks good to me at first glance
17:18.40joshinThanks.  Sigh...  weirdness surrounds me.
17:19.05mickeylsure you don't inherit a class that zaps SRC_URI?
17:20.20joshinYes.  Figured it out.  Seems that the do_fetch stamp was in place but the file wasn't in the download directory
17:21.03mickeylaah
17:21.58joshinTrying to build bb files for dtach (detach functions of screen), libtorrent, and rtorrent.
17:22.05mickeylcool
17:22.46CosmicPenguinmozilla sucks
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17:38.05joshinIs there an easy way to determine byte alignment?  libtorrent's configure script picks up endianness correctly but dies trying to figure it out
17:47.35psokolovskyjoshin: there're autoconf site configs for that, to record pre-knowledge for each platform.
17:47.39kergothgcc has an __alignof__(), you can check the alignment of types
17:48.39KristofferRP, got a quick question (installing openzaurus on my 3200)
17:48.54joshinthanks kergoth!  I'll check that out
17:49.03kergothnp. works just like sizeof
17:49.07kergothwas playing with it a while back
17:49.19KristofferRP, I put the image files in a subdir the first time I tried to install it so it couldnt find them. When i try to do it again I cannot make it go back to the maintenance
17:49.54JustinPKristoffer: don't ask RP, other can help :-|
17:50.22JustinPKristoffer: what do you mean "cannot go back to maintenance"? How are you trying to do it?
17:50.52KristofferPressing OK + powerbutton doesnt go back to maintenance
17:51.27KristofferIt just gets me back into the default "os"
17:52.03KristofferDoh
17:52.06Kristofferwait just realized something
17:52.12KristofferMaybe need to reset it again :D
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17:57.55florianre
17:58.14psokolovskykergoth: Btw, I heard that you were working on adding arm-wince-pe support for OE. Is there any more info on that?
17:58.51chris144|awaynite folks
18:00.14kergothpsokolovsky: havent touched it in a very, very long time, and no longer have any means of testing it :)
18:00.52psokolovskykergoth: but was it released? any way to have a look at it?
18:01.04kergothnot really, would have to do it again
18:01.06kergothiirc
18:01.16kergothdont remember it being all that painful though.
18:02.01hrw|tweakinghi
18:02.46psokolovskykergoth: well, if there's some URL, I appreciate it. I just added initial mingw32 support to OE. Took me 2 nights. I luv OE ;-)
18:03.22kergothnice
18:03.32kergothi played with adding cygwin stuff too
18:03.43hrw|tweaking~lart mainboard
18:04.15hrw|tweakingI have 2 512M sticks. both works ok when are alone in dimm1. when dimm1/dimm2 are used then memory errors..
18:04.15KristofferArghh, great just managed to delete the old OS and didnt get the new one installed (due to not fdisk'ng)
18:04.27hrw|tweakinghave to create table and check all combiinations...
18:05.02KristofferAny suggestions? Bootdisc for zaurus? :D
18:05.47psokolovskyKristoffer: there's at list one for PocketPC's ;-) - http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue
18:06.35Kristofferbig thx man
18:07.20Kristoffereh, isnt this for ipaq like systems?
18:07.42psokolovskyKristoffer: exactly, so I wrote ;-).
18:07.42KristofferJustinP, you there man?
18:07.54Kristofferpsokolovsky, ah doh :D This is for a Zaurus SL-C3200
18:08.07Kristofferjust need a minimalistic system so I can bootup linux and format with fdisk
18:08.22Kristofferor bootup from CF card
18:08.33hrw|tweakingKristoffer: flash OZ 3.5.4.1 bootstrap image then
18:09.17psokolovskyKristoffer: If there's a way to boot a raw kernel with initrd in your sitaution, you can try RR is nothing else will fit. (it has fdisk, etc.)
18:09.31Kristofferhrw|tweaking, the problem is that it wont fit on the microdrive partition, cause i didnt partition it
18:09.52Kristofferhrw|tweaking, or you mean I can boot right away from a CF card?
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18:13.00psokolovskycyrilRomain, Hi! So what about renaming sanitize.py to bbsanitize.py?
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18:14.43cyrilRomain'evening all
18:15.13cyrilRomainhi psokolovsky!
18:15.13Kristofferhrw|tweaking, ah thx
18:15.39cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: no need for such a renaming since sanitize in now part of the bittest content_checker :)
18:16.41cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: I simply defined a 'oe_stylized' function (as suggested by koen) that do what the sanitize.py main's function do
18:17.05cyrilRomains:/oe_stylized/oe_stylize/ even
18:17.53psokolovskycyrilRomain: well, sanitize is part of bittest, but does bittest part of offcial bitbake? ;-) one needs to set up it first ;-( ;-)
18:18.48cyrilRomainbittest can be easily used: zecke wrote a bittest_single command that do not require setup
18:18.49Kristofferhrw|tweaking, the bootstrap-image wont fit on the microdrive (partition 1?)
18:19.21KristofferAnyone good at Zaurus sl-c3200 is welcome to lend a hand here :D
18:19.40cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: the only thing that is missing since in bittest is to easily test _one_ bitbake file
18:19.55cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: with bittest you need to change your BBFILE to do that
18:20.48hrw|tweakingre
18:20.57cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: I think we can make bittest take bb file as argument to overcome that
18:21.03cyrilRomainhey hrw|tweaking
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18:24.33hrw|tweakingKristoffer: fetch fdisk for sharprom then
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18:25.00Kristofferhrw|tweaking, is the sharprom untouched? Can I do a rest to bring it back?
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18:26.47hrw|tweakingKristoffer: sharprom is pain but users were able to repartition before installing OZ
18:27.13Kristofferhrw|tweaking, yes but how Do I reset the machine so I can get into sharprom again?
18:27.21KristofferOr do I need to download and update?
18:27.30hrw|tweakingKristoffer: you can try to boot into rescue shell
18:27.59KristofferThe kernel panics, So Im guessing it didnt have room for much in the current partition scheme
18:28.05hrw|tweakingKristoffer: disconnect AC, battery. hold DM keys (or DB I do not remember now) and connect AC and turn it on
18:28.28hrw|tweakingKristoffer: then release DB - you will boot into rescue system and maybe there will be fdisk
18:28.35Kristofferoki thx
18:31.11Kristofferhrw|afk, gives same stuff as before..just gives me openzaurus logo with kernel panic
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18:40.56florianhrw|afk: shouldn't the gpe versions table be included in the versioned oz distro configs?
18:41.36floriani mean that the older ones still want to stay at 2.7 inc and the latest wants to include 2.8?
18:45.26Kristofferanyone with a zaurus sl-c3200 that can give me a helping hand?
18:47.20JustinPKristoffer: what's the problem (sorry, been afk)
18:49.23KristofferJustinP, well I installed openzaurus before doing the partitions, so it couldnt fit everything on the default partitions. And the kernel panics at startup
18:49.29JustinPKristoffer: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install
18:49.54JustinPKristoffer: see "preparing the hard drive"
18:50.06KristofferJustinP, yes but the problem is that I have nothing to run fdisk with :D
18:50.57KristofferSo what I need is either a way to boot from CF (so I can repartition microdrive) or some way to get old system back
18:51.01JustinPKristoffer: see that section, of course you do
18:51.17JustinPfrom that page: "You can boot to a console from NAND using these instructions:"
18:51.52JustinPthe zaurii have nice maintenance mode built in :-)
18:52.17Kristofferwhen doing that I still get the openzaurus logo and kernel panic
18:53.29hvontres|poodleKristoffer:Check out TriSoft's Web site. I think they have resore images for borked clamshells available :)
18:53.58Kristofferhvontres|poodle, it will work even though I didnt buy it from them?
18:54.19JustinPKristoffer: did you remove your power plug and battery?
18:54.35JustinPKristoffer: try again, but flip #2 and #3
18:54.46JustinPKristoffer: press D+B then put the battery back in
18:55.04hvontres|poodleKristoffer: I believe so. There were seveal threads on the OESF forums about rescuing your "bricked" 3x00.
18:55.05KristofferJustinP, oki, let me try again..
18:55.32hrw|afkflorian: if you can clean it then it would be great - basically current metadata can be set to current GPE stuf only
18:55.51hrw|afkI have to check next entry from RAM table ;(
18:56.01hrw|afkbbl
18:56.20KristofferJustinP, you are quite right the instructions are wrong. Switching #2 and #3 worked, Big thx man
18:56.26JustinPhvontres|poodle: Kristoffer is not bricked
18:57.01KristofferJustinP, oki to partition from console?..
18:57.54JustinPKristoffer: follow the instructions
18:57.58JustinPKristoffer: on that page
18:58.24Kristofferbig thx
18:58.37Kristofferput a note on the page saying "if you tried to install before fixing partitions.."
18:58.47CosmicPenguinpackage xulrunner-0.0+cvs20060906: completed
18:58.47JustinPKristoffer: fyi, you should be asking this stuff on #openzaurus, not #oe
18:58.49CosmicPenguinfear!
18:59.41KristofferJustinP, a doh... btw is o really correct? it says on page that it should blow all partitions away but on zaurus it says that "o = create a new empty DOS partition table"
19:03.02JustinPKristoffer: I don't know...press "h"
19:03.35Kristoffermaybe s = create a new empty Sun disklabel?
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19:23.07sirfredHi
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19:25.55florianhrw: wb
19:26.02florianhrw: ok, will do so
19:26.55hrwflorian: thx
19:26.56KristofferJustinP, machine working nicely now thx
19:27.20florianeh push
19:33.11hrwhmm.. looks like I got working combination of ram sticks
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19:44.38florianhrw: ok, i'll push a big update now... including the updates in the oz configs.
19:46.51hrwok
19:46.58hrwwill look into them tommorow
19:48.53florianhrw: ok - great
19:49.20CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r65c9d170... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gconf-dbus: Fix dependencies to dbus-glib. Add more recent svn package.
19:49.25CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rae263f1a... 10/ (15 files in 5 dirs): dbus: add up to date dbus 0.92 and dbus-glib 0.71
19:49.38CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r252c7ed6... 10/ (1 conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc): preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc: Use new dbus 0.92, add dbus-glib and update gpe-beam.
19:49.45CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rf8b59c47... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tosa-2.6.conf): tosa-2.6.conf: Fix location of zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf.
19:49.50CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r78f9b14f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gtk+: Add patch to fix runtime warning (from Familiar tree).
19:49.55CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r2e51dac7... 10/ (16 files in 4 dirs): gpe-contacts: Depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus. Drop old releases.
19:50.00CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r117d3e1e... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.54.bb): gpe-bluetooth: depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus
19:50.05CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r6df83d79... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-beam/gpe-beam_0.2.9.bb): gpe-beam: add 0.2.9
19:50.10CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r3f830082... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.72.bb): gpe-calendar: depend on dbus-glib
19:50.16CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rb4a981df... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-autostarter/gpe-autostarter_0.12.bb): gpe-autostarter: add 0.12
19:50.22CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r3a0121b8... 10/ (1 conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc): preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc: add current gpe-autostarter
19:50.27CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r57e5be33... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.25.bb): gpe-filemanager: depend on dbus-glib
19:50.33CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r9a1b5b60... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): bluez-utils-dbus: update to 2.25 supporting new dbus api
19:50.38CIA-903florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r8345e6dd... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus: Update configurations to use GPE 2.7 in 3.5.4.1 like before and the updated 2.8 version table in 3.5.4.2.
19:51.27floriansorry... ;-)
19:53.01psokolovskywhy, that's cool ;-)
19:53.52hrwnice set
19:54.39hrwflorian: your tosa image contain those changes? I'm flashing it now
19:57.12floriani can imagine pH5 might like it :-)
19:57.38hrw:)
19:57.52florianhrw: yes... and i think everything necessary is in mow
19:57.59florians/mow/now
19:58.02hrwok
19:58.37florianah... it might contain a little bit different software selection... i had a hacked "gpe-image.bb" laying around.
19:58.48hrw;)
19:59.00hrwI have to regenerate oz-bootsplash one day
19:59.28hrwthose svg files have notneeded border
20:01.17hrwflorian: hmm.. no question about root password??
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20:04.27florianhrw: yes, i commented out the zap_root_password...
20:05.13Slimshi
20:05.16zapif somebody needs the latest status of zap_root_password, just ask me :-D
20:06.08hrwI wonder why noone added windowmaker into OE...
20:06.27zapbecause it has too large buttons :)
20:06.58hrwand is hard to use with one button mouse?
20:07.30hrwflorian: atleast OE generated images contain now all my hacks ;)
20:08.21hrwflorian: one more thing... why gpe-dm is blue?
20:10.09hrwand something is fscked with wlan-ng ;( does not go up..
20:10.51hrwbrb - boot into normal system
20:12.17florianheh
20:12.26zapyou mean ppc? :-]
20:12.45hrwzap: no - debian instead of knoppix
20:13.04Slimsif just startet to work with oe, and have "the first" problem. How can I freeze the cvs version of a kernel source (handhelds-sa-2.6 kernel tree)
20:13.12hrwzap: I do not have ppc (as powerpc) hardware
20:13.34hrwSlims: SRCDATE_handhelds-sa-2.6 = "20060902"
20:13.38zapi was meaning pocket pc (e.g. wince :)
20:13.50Slimsthanks i try it
20:14.31hrwzap: then I do not have such hardware too
20:14.54florianhrw: pb_ liked the colour... Familiar has a patch to make it use the default theme iirc
20:15.48hrwah
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20:34.03koen|awayflorian: .dev should also have the no-blue patch :)
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20:36.23floriankoen|away: :-)
20:37.02koen|gprsI think I did disguise it a 'fontfix.patch' or something like that
20:37.25koenflorian: could you also add the gtk patch you pushed to .oz to .dev?
20:39.05floriankoen: good point... and more, i need to check if we have all up to date gpe version in it and try to find out why the gtk file selector causes segfaults in oz but not in Familiar.
20:39.28koenno idea
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21:50.15joshinWhat's the best/proper way to install a library that is depended upon by other packages?  I'm working on getting libtorrent built (and then submit the bb file).
21:50.50joshinAn example bb file would be fine.  I see a few different ways in various bb files.
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21:54.07v8jlenejoshin: Add it to RDEPENDS if you need the library at run-time, to DEPENDS if you need it at compile time.
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21:55.14joshinv8jlene, Got that, thanks!  I want to know the best way to ADD a library so that a package that depends on it will be built.
21:55.33joshinoe_libinstall would appear to be the proper way
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21:56.52v8jlenejoshin: Ah, how to put libraries and headers in the staging area for a new .bb you've created then?
21:57.13joshinv8jlene, exactly.
21:58.17v8jlenejoshin: Very short example: http://www.openembedded.info/wiki/Bitbake_recipes#do_stage
21:58.38joshinPerfect, thanks!
21:59.33joshinNext thing should be to whom should I send the bb files to add them to the repository.  :)
22:00.20v8jleneThe usual thing is to add them to the bugtracker once they are working ok. Or send to mailing list for comments.
22:01.22v8jleneIt's a good idea to run org.openembedded.dev/contrib/sanitize.py over your .bb's as well to make sure they are the correct style.
22:02.00joshinWill do.  
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22:06.02psokolovskyv8jlene, Hi! So, how about adding section list to wiki?
22:08.16v8jlenepsokolovsky: Feel free to do it ;)
22:08.31psokolovskyv8jlene: ok
22:09.26v8jlenepsokolovsky: I think there's already a list on there somewhere as well, its a bit difficult to find.
22:09.43CosmicPenguinMozilla is in dire need of an Xorg like splitting
22:10.01psokolovskyv8jlene, ok will, look for it. but it's place is clearly at Policies page
22:10.28v8jleneI'm working on completing a .bb recipe chapter for the usermanual which is probably a more useful activity for me at the moment!
22:12.21psokolovskyv8jlene, sure. just don't want to get ahead of you ;-)
22:12.32cyrilRomainthere is already a section list in the manual: http://www.openembedded.org/bbfile
22:12.48cyrilRomainbut there is a more recent list also
22:13.31cyrilRomainhttp://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09
22:13.37v8jleneYeah, that's where I had seen it on the web page. That one should probably just be removed.
22:13.53cyrilRomainthe second one ?
22:14.03v8jlenecyrilRomain: Yeah, that's my most recent this.
22:14.30v8jleneHeh, our comments crossed ;) No user manual one stays, one on  http://www.openembedded.org/bbfile to go.
22:15.19cyrilRomainv8jlene: :)
22:15.21v8jlene"most recent this"? too early in the morning,,, that should have been "most recent one" (for http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09)
22:15.49cyrilRomainv8jlene: the most recent one is: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09
22:16.12v8jlenecyrilRomain: Yep. (I wrote that one)
22:16.16cyrilRomainv8jlene: lol, too late in the evening for me ;)
22:16.22psokolovskyv8jlene, cyrilRomain: I propose following: one currently in manual stays, marked as RFC1. The main list is kept in wiki, where it can be easily udpated. Once it is stable, moved back to manual.
22:18.17cyrilRomainpsokolovsky: I agree, but I'm not the good person to decide
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22:40.23psokolovskywho knows what engine http://www.openembedded.org runs on? there's no wiki help ;-/
22:42.40florianpsokolovsky: !
22:42.59florianpsokolovsky: i guess koen can fix that...
22:43.09v8jlenepsokolovsky: moinmoin (I think)
22:43.31psokolovskyflorian: yes, Koen agreed it sucks ;-)
22:43.46florianv8jlene: right
22:43.47psokolovskyv8jlene, if... Unfortunately, no ;-(
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22:45.02CIA-9gnupg 1.4.2.2: Fix for x86. The assembler code was being compiled
22:45.02CIA-9with underscores prefixed to the functions while the C code was not
22:45.02CIA-9expecting the underscores. This was caused by the configure script
22:45.02CIA-9assuming that _'s were required when cross-compiling. Turning off
22:45.02CIA-9assembler code via a configure option would have fixed this, but
22:45.06CIA-9instead I've modified the configure script to actually test for
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22:45.38v8jlenepsokolovsky: Hmm... I see a mention of drupal in the page source...
22:47.29cyrilRomainv8jlene: yes it is drupal
22:48.37psokolovskyv8jlene, good catch. now just need find wiki doc on their site %)
22:49.43florianthe main website is made with drupal, but iirc the wiki is moinmoin
22:50.30mickeylg'night
22:50.43CIA-903mickeyl * r606 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py:
22:50.44CIA-9* shell: fix 'which' command
22:50.44CIA-9* shell: use 'rebuild' task for implementing rebuild
22:53.51psokolovskyOk, so it eats mediawiki syntax.
22:54.07psokolovskywiki syntax is real new problem in information exchange ;-)
22:55.27JustinPpsokolovsky: PEAR (PHP) package Text_Wiki supports a bunch of syntaxes and can be used for translations ;-)
22:56.01psokolovskyJustinP: cool, just need add some doc link for that ;-)
22:56.43JustinPit doesn't have moinmoin AFAIK....but it does have some MediaWiki support
22:57.26psokolovskyJustinP: checked that tables work ;-). Added note on frontpage.
22:59.11cyrilRomainhum, isn't restructured text made to use the same wiki syntax anywere ?
23:00.48CIA-903justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * rcca36223... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-utils_20060128.bb): e-utils: remove e dependency as it is no longer a package
23:00.54CIA-903justinp 07org.oe.dev * r4b587626... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-utils_20060501.bb): e-utils: remove e dependency as it is no longer a package
23:02.11psokolovskyanyway, here's a page: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/SectionList . I'll fill in actual list later
23:04.18CIA-903justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * rc593a621... 10/ (1 packages/e17/engage_20060128.bb): engage: remove e DEPENDS
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23:06.15LaibschHi, anybody ever heard of assa or libassa?  Is it available for OE?
23:06.46JustinPheard, don't remember what it is
23:06.48JustinPLaibsch: check the website
23:07.11JustinPLaibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages
23:08.35LaibschJustinP: Seems like it is not there. :-(
23:08.57JustinPLaibsch: sometimes it's as easy as giving it a source URL and inherit autotools ;-)
23:09.02JustinP(and depd)
23:09.03JustinPdeps
23:09.19Laibschyes, I know.
23:09.23LaibschLet's see.
23:09.52LaibschI try to build granule.sf.net.  And incidentally, libassa.sf.net seems to be from the same guy.
23:11.49cyrilRomainv8jlene: psst ! check your mail for the new sanitize.py
23:13.11v8jlenecyrilRomain: Hmm... i don't see any attachment in your email? Did you forget to add it (or to my mail->news gateway stuff it up?)
23:14.05cyrilRomainv8jlene: gosh! I attached it though :(
23:16.53psokolovskyv8jlene: Attached autotools fix to http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1326 . Maybe you can review it now.
23:18.18CIA-903lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1b9ad8be... 10/ (1 site/i486-linux site/i586-linux): site i{4,5}86-linux: Add required entries for lftp.
23:20.10cyrilRomainrahh +à@~~#
23:20.50v8jlenecyrilRomain: Can you email it directly to me? Or try it out on packages/quagga/quagga.inc or packages/iputils/iputils_20020927.bb which were two that it was making a bit of a mess of.
23:20.59v8jlenepsokolovsky: Will check now.
23:21.05psokolovskythanks
23:21.31cyrilRomainv8jlene: sure
23:23.52cyrilRomainv8jlene: I made correction working on quagga.inc
23:24.03cyrilRomains/tion/tions/ even
23:24.51cyrilRomainv8jlene: if you find anothers issues, feel free to send me an email
23:27.09cyrilRomainhum.. probably the mail server ignore text file that exceed a certain size and certain file on extensions ...
23:29.31cyrilRomain'night all
23:30.18v8jlenepsokolovsky: Builds fine on sh4, i486 and i586. The .pc files looks fine. Things that depend on libpng build fine.
23:30.46psokolovskyv8jlene: Ditto for me. So, I commit it?
23:31.02psokolovskycyrilRomain, gnite
23:31.04v8jlenecyrilRomain: New version looks much better. Thanks,
23:32.46v8jlenepsokolovsky: Might be worth bumping PR to make sure everyone rebuilds it?
23:33.13v8jlenepsokolovsky: Otherwise go ahead and commit - it's definately an improvement!
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23:34.27psokolovskyv8jlene: Sure, just seems it was older diff I made before bumping PR and rebuilding.
23:34.28psokolovskyok
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23:49.26CIA-903cyril.romain 07org.oe.dev * r69dac44f... 10/ (1 contrib/sanitize.py): (log message trimmed)
23:49.27CIA-9contrib/sanitize.py: Revision 0.5
23:49.27CIA-9* Recognise pkg_preins and pkg_prerm scripts
23:49.27CIA-9* For alternatives put the required items before the option items
23:49.27CIA-9* For initscripts put the package list first
23:49.27CIA-9* Recognise PKG variable
23:49.29CIA-9* Remove blank lines between variables with the same prefix (eg the
23:50.23CIA-903pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * reed5ae4e... 10/ (1 packages/libpng/libpng_1.2.12.bb):
23:50.23CIA-9libpng 1.2.12: Switch to use autoconf'ed build.
23:50.23CIA-9* 1.2.12 (or other version past 1.2.8) switched to the full configure support,
23:50.23CIA-9use autotools class to build it.
23:53.33v8jlenepsokolovsky: libpng-native doesn't work (it didn't work prior to your change either, so nothing new there)
23:56.57psokolovskyv8jlene, will have a look
23:56.58v8jlenepsokolovsky: False alarm.. I needed to merge before update would work. It works fine. So you actually fixed libpng-native as a side effect of your change ;)
23:57.11psokolovskyv8jlene, ok ;-)
23:57.48psokolovskyv8jlene, btw, what happened to your site configs refactors?
23:59.53v8jlenepsokolovsky: It works fine for me and it's nice being able to stick the site files in with the package (where they are package specific)... I made a new diff this morning which I'll re-send and then see what happens.

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