| 00:03.17 | likewise | zzz |
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| 04:43.33 | mithro | ~tim PDT |
| 04:44.29 | mithro | ~time PDT |
| 04:46.07 | koen | mithro: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_US-CA.aspx |
| 04:46.25 | koen | it closed ~4 hours ago |
| 04:46.37 | emte | 5r |
| 04:46.43 | emte | 09:48:24 PM |
| 04:46.52 | mithro | 9:46 didn't seem right |
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| 04:54.29 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcd46d30f... 10/packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_0.17.bb: libgpevtype: update to 0.17 |
| 05:13.50 | koen | "Most X applications ignore this visual since it is not useful to them; however some applications mistakenly try to use it, which will cause them to fail. An environment variable, XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS, was added to the X11 library to hide this visual from applications that mistakenly try to use it. If an application fails only when the Composite is enabled, try setting this environment variable before starting the application" |
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| 07:03.01 | Genesis | lo |
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| 07:08.13 | rob_w | hi |
| 07:08.31 | rob_w | how can i configure() a package dependant on ARCH ? |
| 07:09.00 | rob_w | i need to add a configure additional configure switch dependant on the ARCH type |
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| 07:12.00 | emte | use the functions |
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| 07:16.50 | emte | +# Compatability for the rare systems not using or having SYSV |
| 07:16.50 | emte | +python () { |
| 07:16.50 | emte | + if bb.data.getVar('HOST_NONSYSV', d, True) and bb.data.getVar('HOST_NONSYSV', d, True) != '0': |
| 07:16.50 | emte | + bb.data.setVar('EXTRA_OECONF', ' --with-ipc=tcp --program-prefix= ', d) |
| 07:16.50 | emte | +} |
| 07:17.25 | emte | is an example matching a flag |
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| 07:22.13 | rob_w | hmm ok .. or do you know why glibc-2.3.5cvs will break for i386 ?? i was thinking to disable pthreads as this seems tobe the error |
| 07:22.41 | ixoth | rob_w, in fact, i've tried with and without pthreads, for me it fails :( |
| 07:22.52 | rob_w | hmm |
| 07:23.14 | ixoth | had no time to investigate it... |
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| 07:25.27 | rob_w | ixoth, did you try any other version ? |
| 07:25.48 | ixoth | of OE or glibc? |
| 07:25.48 | emte | did you diable all the arm/pxa patches? |
| 07:25.54 | emte | disable* |
| 07:26.20 | ixoth | had no time yet to play with patches, but maybe I'll do it now :) |
| 07:32.19 | rob_w | emte, not conciously |
| 07:34.06 | kergoth | rob_w, i386? try adding... umm... --without-tls if i remember correctly, to the EXTRA_OECONF for glibc and see if that helps |
| 07:34.32 | ixoth | --without-tls didn't work for me :( |
| 07:35.12 | rob_w | basicly the error looks like this : pthread.c:(.text+0x91b): undefined reference to `_errno' |
| 07:35.12 | rob_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.22 | ixoth | the same with me... |
| 07:35.32 | rob_w | maybe it shouldnt be a big thing to tell pthread about errno.h , right ? |
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| 08:06.40 | pb__ | morning kergoth |
| 08:08.56 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 08:29.20 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:30.00 | hrw|work | hi koen |
| 08:30.06 | hrw|work | http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_list?user=DiggUser |
| 08:35.22 | hrw|work | debian release 2.4.18 with security patches |
| 08:42.42 | magnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.57 | magnet | umm hi even. |
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| 08:48.40 | hrw|work | hi Olivier |
| 08:48.57 | ixoth | rob_w: here's it... the problem with long descriptions... |
| 08:49.11 | ixoth | http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=674 |
| 08:50.34 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/05/23/my-first-linux-26-kernel-patch-accepted/ |
| 08:51.07 | koen | my first kernel patch was to remove the word 'ROM' :) |
| 08:51.19 | hrw|work | koen: remember that |
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| 08:53.37 | mickey|office | morning |
| 08:53.52 | koen | hey mickey|office |
| 08:53.58 | koen | how's the phone doing? |
| 08:54.39 | mickey|office | it doesn't boot custom kernels :/ |
| 08:55.23 | mickey|office | looks like i have one of the models where the bootldr/kernel handover is not known |
| 08:55.35 | mickey|office | which sucks a bit |
| 08:55.47 | koen | that's crap indeed |
| 08:55.59 | mickey|office | i hope harald will come up with some ideas |
| 08:56.19 | mickey|office | i might try flashing a stock 2.4 to see if at least the usb transfer works |
| 08:57.22 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4af0b1bc... 10/packages/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:57.23 | CIA-9 | We need more python applications... add pyfits 1.0.1 and pyraf 1.2.1: |
| 08:57.23 | CIA-9 | PyFITS provides an interface to FITS formatted files under the Python scripting language and PyRAF, the Python-based interface to IRAF. It is useful |
| 08:57.23 | CIA-9 | both for interactive data analysis and for writing analysis scripts in Python using FITS files as either input or output. PyFITS is a development |
| 08:57.25 | CIA-9 | project of the Science Software Branch at the Space Telescope Science Institute. |
| 08:58.12 | njs | do people do a lot of astronomical data analysis on handheld devices? :-) |
| 08:58.30 | hrw|work | mickey|office: can you push that into .oz354x too? |
| 08:58.52 | ixoth | probably space telescope is an embedded device :) |
| 08:59.14 | mickey|office | hrw|work: yep |
| 08:59.25 | koen | njs: people run a full blown gentoo on them, so nothing surprises me anymore |
| 08:59.29 | njs | while I know what "embedded" means, this still conjures up a pleasing image of someone carrying around a 30-meter mirror in their pocket. |
| 09:00.03 | koen | njs: I run monotone on my handheld :) |
| 09:00.20 | njs | koen: oh, well, naturally. don't leave home without it. |
| 09:01.11 | njs | koen: the next time a nasty worm gets loose from some TV show and eats all the data on every computer connected to the internet, you'll be glad you had a project backup in your pocket! |
| 09:01.14 | ixoth | heh, how many years does emerge -Dupv world take on, say, tosa? |
| 09:02.43 | pb__ | hi mickey|office |
| 09:04.50 | mickey|office | hi pb_ |
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| 09:05.31 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf3fea565... 10/packages/puzzles/puzzles_r6712.bb: puzzles: added r6712 - fetching from SVN |
| 09:06.42 | hrw|work | someone know who maintain pcnet_cs driver? |
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| 09:13.50 | frg | hello |
| 09:14.36 | frg | tried to do something usefull with oe but failed at start ;) |
| 09:15.36 | frg | anyne knows why it didnt build a crosscompiler by itself or didnt use the external toolchain? |
| 09:16.05 | mickey|office | you realize you gave no information yet? |
| 09:16.08 | frg | some more info follows... |
| 09:16.13 | mickey|office | aha |
| 09:16.16 | frg | local.conf >>> MACHINE = "h3600"; TARGET_ARCH = "arm"; TARGET_OS = "linux"; DISTRO = "familiar-unstable"; |
| 09:16.24 | frg | branch .dev |
| 09:16.33 | mickey|office | now pastebin the log. |
| 09:16.36 | mickey|office | ~pastebin |
| 09:16.38 | ibot | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com |
| 09:16.39 | frg | bitbake ncurses >>> builds quilt-native, gnu-config-native, automake-native, autoconf-native, libtool-native, ncurses-native ... then ncurses-5.4-r8 when it crashes |
| 09:16.55 | hrw|work | pastebin log |
| 09:17.00 | koen | mickey|office: bitbake -i <enter> command ; pastelog |
| 09:17.01 | koen | :) |
| 09:17.17 | mickey|office | koen: righto. ~praise the shell |
| 09:17.31 | mickey|office | we might have an auto-upload on failure eventually ;) |
| 09:18.23 | rob_w | ixoth, so was that a fix in sight ? |
| 09:18.27 | koen | mickey|office: zecke and I are in favour of auto-paypal on successull builds |
| 09:18.38 | mickey|office | YES! :D |
| 09:21.12 | ixoth | well, I added something to my local.conf |
| 09:21.30 | ixoth | something like GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF='--without-thread' |
| 09:21.46 | ixoth | and now it builds, and still compiles glibc :) |
| 09:22.11 | ixoth | s/--without-thread/--without-__thread/g |
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| 09:22.42 | magnet | JustinP: you're around ? |
| 09:23.21 | mickey|office | ggilbert_: ping. could you fix the bugtracker please? |
| 09:25.37 | magnet | anyone using e-'s image ? |
| 09:26.03 | koen | still no gcc release |
| 09:28.01 | frg | ok... http://pastebin.com/732680 |
| 09:33.49 | frg | there is no arm-linux-gcc or anything in path atm but as i've read oe should build them, right? |
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| 09:35.44 | zecke | hey |
| 09:35.44 | mickey|office | if it didn't build a compile before ncurses then dependency handling is broken |
| 09:35.44 | pb__ | yo zecke |
| 09:35.50 | mickey|office | or you have ASSUME_PROVIDED used anywhere |
| 09:35.59 | mickey|office | you are using bitbake 1.4.x |
| 09:35.59 | mickey|office | ? |
| 09:36.18 | mickey|office | hi ze |
| 09:36.20 | mickey|office | cke |
| 09:36.24 | zecke | mickey|office: I have finally signed in for my first pre-diploma exam :} |
| 09:36.30 | mickey|office | yes! |
| 09:36.46 | mickey|office | point of no return |
| 09:37.01 | ixoth | rob_w: glibc build ok... let's see how it works further. |
| 09:37.15 | frg | gcc 3.3.6, bitbake 1.4.0 monotone 0.25 |
| 09:37.55 | frg | no ASSUME_PROVIDED in local.conf |
| 09:38.01 | mickey|office | frg: show us a complete run of bitbake -D -D -D ncurses |
| 09:38.07 | mickey|office | (pastebin, of course) |
| 09:38.13 | frg | ok :) |
| 09:39.56 | zecke | mickey|office: hehe, I'm getting the haskell king ;) |
| 09:40.16 | zecke | mickey|office: and AlpII was lame... I think I have a fair chanche passing ;) |
| 09:40.47 | zecke | mickey|office: and you are budy writing? |
| 09:40.58 | koen | mickey|office: iirc bitbake 1.4 had the ncurses bug |
| 09:41.21 | koen | mickey|office: let's agree on making people use >1.4.2 before debugging problems |
| 09:42.34 | hrw|work | mickey|office: can opie be changed to support 'keyboard OK button' as default action for window 'OK' button? like it was under 2.4.. |
| 09:42.36 | frg | it is 670kB ... you still want to see it? |
| 09:42.46 | zecke | koen: http://isnoop.net/blog/2006/05/20/macsaber-turn-your-mac-into-a-jedi-weapon/ |
| 09:43.13 | koen | zecke: yeah, I saw that :) |
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| 09:45.39 | koen | frg: upgrade to bitbake 1.4.2 or 1.4.2, remove /tmp and try again |
| 09:45.52 | mickey|office | zecke: yes, kind of writing here.... |
| 09:46.20 | koen | zecke: did you find the right monotone db for the docs yet? |
| 09:46.52 | zecke | koen: no but that is deu not searching them ;) |
| 09:46.59 | zecke | koen: I will push everything i have ;) |
| 09:47.31 | zecke | koen: I should look into mtn rdiff monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.doc |
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| 09:48.01 | koen | 'monotone sync monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.documentation' |
| 09:48.51 | zecke | koen: I want to see the diff against a remote server first ;) |
| 09:48.56 | zecke | koen: let me hack mtn ;) |
| 09:49.16 | frg | ok koen ... maybe it wasnt wise to emerge bitbaker... i'll just download it, the 1.4.2 version |
| 09:49.34 | zecke | frg: there is no ebuild for 1.4.2 yet? |
| 09:50.09 | frg | not in my portage |
| 09:50.36 | frg | synced 3 weeks ago or so... |
| 09:51.00 | koen | just follow the GettingStarted guide an you'll be allright |
| 09:51.41 | zecke | monotone pull localhost org.openembedded.dev |
| 09:51.44 | zecke | I love firewalls |
| 09:53.00 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.06 | zecke | the most expensive xterm ever |
| 09:53.17 | frg | you mean i shall do this -> svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake |
| 09:53.55 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r1425bc04... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: |
| 09:53.55 | CIA-9 | usermanual/usermanual.xml: |
| 09:53.55 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.55 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:53.55 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.15 | zecke | frg: either this, or use a released version from developer.berlios.de/projects/bitbake |
| 09:54.57 | koen | zecke: thanks |
| 09:55.13 | frg | ok, getting from berlios |
| 09:56.47 | zecke | koen: dot syntax or documenting requirements, what do you prefer? |
| 09:57.03 | koen | zecke: dot support for OE? |
| 09:57.12 | zecke | koen: bitbake |
| 09:57.24 | koen | dot support, without doubt |
| 09:57.45 | koen | we could sell the graphs of bitbake world as wall posters :) |
| 09:58.58 | mickey|office | heh |
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| 09:59.20 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 09:59.21 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 09:59.51 | woglinde | hm who wants to make a oe live-cd? |
| 10:00.20 | zecke | woglinde: bitbake opie-livecd |
| 10:00.28 | woglinde | *g* |
| 10:00.36 | koen | woglinde: there's support for vwmare images in the bugtracker |
| 10:00.44 | koen | (if only it were up right now) |
| 10:01.33 | frg | btw, is this conf ok for building opie for h3600 ? http://oe.pastebin.com/732694 |
| 10:01.54 | koen | mickey|office: how long will your uni mail address continue to work? |
| 10:03.27 | mickey|office | koen: the sysadmin told me everything will be ok until I have actually completely left. Which means at least until Winter |
| 10:03.47 | mickey|office | the same goes for *.vanille.de |
| 10:04.27 | mickey|office | so we have some months left to work on the transition, but not endlessly |
| 10:05.55 | frg | hmm.... so what about that local.conf? |
| 10:06.06 | zecke | Updated to revision 516. |
| 10:06.06 | zecke | Killed by signal 15. |
| 10:06.36 | zecke | frg: pastebin is timing out here |
| 10:06.45 | woglinde | frg should be okay |
| 10:06.50 | woglinde | if you really want familar |
| 10:06.50 | frg | works slowly for me too |
| 10:06.52 | mickey|office | hrw|work: i have no idea what caused that change, to be honest |
| 10:06.57 | mickey|office | hrw|work: if i would know, we could fix... |
| 10:07.08 | frg | why shouldnt i want familiar? ^^ |
| 10:07.16 | zecke | frg: INHERIT = "package_ipk" can be removed |
| 10:07.22 | hrw|work | mickey|office: ok |
| 10:07.29 | zecke | frg: what is the error now? |
| 10:07.32 | koen | zecke: docbook2pdf usermanual.xml works again |
| 10:07.49 | zecke | woglinde: lunch? |
| 10:07.52 | frg | im about to run it... brb |
| 10:08.07 | woglinde | zecke when? |
| 10:08.14 | zecke | woglinde: now? |
| 10:08.20 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * ra6290875... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: remove non-SGML char |
| 10:09.36 | woglinde | zecke nope |
| 10:09.57 | woglinde | have to wait an other hour |
| 10:10.09 | zecke | woglinde: Curry at 1h? |
| 10:11.55 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.02 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.04 | zecke | ;) |
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| 10:13.57 | woglinde | zecke currybude at 13:25 |
| 10:14.21 | zecke | woglinde: I'm starving... had a bad night (slept on my belly... until) |
| 10:14.34 | woglinde | eat a sandwhich at the cafeteria |
| 10:14.53 | zecke | woglinde: I don't want to unplug my laptop for that |
| 10:15.04 | woglinde | eat your cable |
| 10:15.37 | zecke | woglinde: which one? |
| 10:16.21 | woglinde | both |
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| 10:23.46 | chris144 | good morning folks |
| 10:25.33 | hrw|work | hi chris144 |
| 10:25.44 | chris144 | hi hrw|work |
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| 10:37.07 | lardman|work | morning |
| 10:43.44 | ixoth | anyone willing to add some simple tuning config files like tune-c3.conf? |
| 10:43.58 | ixoth | such as tune-i586.conf, etc |
| 10:44.21 | mithro | can people test http://www.tp.net.au/tp/ for me? |
| 10:45.03 | koen | mithro: works |
| 10:45.15 | mithro | yay! |
| 10:46.23 | mithro | can you mail "mithro AT tp.net.au" ? |
| 10:49.05 | hrw|work | which part of U.S. is GMT-4? |
| 10:49.21 | pb__ | right now? the east coast |
| 10:50.11 | hrw|work | thx |
| 10:50.33 | mithro | hrw|work: why? |
| 10:50.59 | hrw|work | wanted to add gmt-4 clock to panel |
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| 10:57.08 | chris144 | looks like www.oesources.org is down... |
| 10:59.21 | frg | strange things... |
| 10:59.30 | frg | it went the same path as before |
| 10:59.46 | zecke | frg: log? |
| 10:59.49 | frg | bitbake ncurses >>> builds quilt-native, gnu-config-native, automake-native, autoconf-native, libtool-native, ncurses-native ... then ncurses-5.4-r8 when it crashes |
| 10:59.55 | frg | http://oe.pastebin.com/732747 |
| 11:00.14 | zecke | idealm: try bugs.openembedded.org (but I have heard it is down) |
| 11:00.26 | frg | yeah its donw |
| 11:00.26 | koen | mithro: mail sent |
| 11:00.45 | zecke | frg: while I wait for pastebin... could you do which bitbake |
| 11:01.13 | zecke | frg: and python -vvv `which bitbake` -p |
| 11:01.20 | mithro | thanks |
| 11:01.25 | zecke | frg: and paste the first couple of pages |
| 11:01.53 | zecke | frg: I suspect it picked up your older bitbake |
| 11:02.32 | frg | i took the 1.4.2 as suggested |
| 11:02.39 | zecke | I will get some food now, but will be around later again |
| 11:02.59 | zecke | frg: sure, but you still can load modules from the old ones... |
| 11:03.06 | zecke | frg: or invoke the old one... |
| 11:03.32 | frg | i've unmerged the old one |
| 11:03.40 | zecke | oh okay |
| 11:03.47 | zecke | you don't have the new one though ;) |
| 11:04.02 | zecke | using python -vvv you wills ee which .py file it is loading |
| 11:06.48 | idealm | zecke, I checked just now, and wasn't able to access it. |
| 11:08.02 | frg | hmmm.. i tried a bitbake -D -D -D ncurses to give more detailed info but it started downloading new packages (file and gettext) which it didnt do before |
| 11:08.29 | frg | but still no binutils... maybe later it will |
| 11:09.22 | _guillermo | what would be the actual benefits of kdrive for oe? |
| 11:10.12 | koen | _guillermo: OE is a buildsystem, it only needs a terminal to output too |
| 11:10.50 | _guillermo | sorry, I meant for the oe based distros, not oe itself |
| 11:19.11 | frg | thanks and bye for now ... i'll go out and be back later |
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| 11:28.03 | fdv | Hi. the fakeroot package refers to ver. 1.2.13, while the latest available seems to be 1.2.10. is there something I'm missing? |
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| 11:33.11 | fdv | (and bugs.openembedded.org doesn't seem to respond well to http) |
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| 11:38.48 | chouimat | morning |
| 11:39.43 | koen | hey chouimat |
| 11:40.36 | _guillermo | anyone knows why the toughscreen is not working in akita (gpe and .dev)? |
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| 12:40.16 | hrw|work | time to build new builddir... |
| 12:47.16 | likewise | koen: ping, does ep93xx/angstrom work correctly at your board, if so, how did you mount the rootfs (ramdisk, nfs, jffs2, ...)? |
| 12:49.53 | fdv | if packages refer to nonexisting versions, is this something that should be filed to bugzilla? |
| 12:50.15 | zecke | fdv: versions? show me an example |
| 12:50.29 | fdv | zecke: fakeroot |
| 12:50.39 | zecke | fdv: you mean source tarball? |
| 12:50.46 | fdv | yes |
| 12:51.01 | fdv | it refers to 1.2.13, but the latest one available on debian mirrors is 1.2.10 |
| 12:51.02 | zecke | dunno, you might do it |
| 12:51.22 | fdv | hm, ok |
| 12:51.46 | zecke | ideally we run the source checker regulary, but we don't ATM |
| 12:51.46 | fdv | bugs.openembedded.org is fairly nonresponsive at the moment, though |
| 12:51.52 | fdv | ok |
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| 13:03.09 | koen | likewise: didn't try it on the ep93xx yet |
| 13:03.27 | chouimat | hi koen |
| 13:03.36 | koen | hey chouimat |
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| 13:05.48 | florian_kc | hi |
| 13:05.56 | florian_kc | what happened to http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
| 13:06.24 | zecke | florian_kc: decided to work for pdaXrom? |
| 13:06.57 | florian_kc | zecke: ehhhh defintely not, why? |
| 13:06.59 | likewise | koen: do you know who did run it on a board succesfully? lennert maybe? |
| 13:07.25 | koen | likewise: g2 or mtaht<number> would be your best bet |
| 13:08.09 | likewise | koen: thanks |
| 13:08.32 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * raa208c78... 10/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot_1.2.13.bb: fakeroot: fix SRC_URI |
| 13:08.56 | ixoth | goodbye everyone |
| 13:09.01 | likewise | cya |
| 13:09.08 | zecke | mickey|office: feel like adding a gnupg mirror? |
| 13:10.21 | mickey|office | ya why not |
| 13:10.56 | mickey|office | is that file missing as well? |
| 13:11.15 | florian_kc | zecke: because i asked about mallum yesterday? |
| 13:11.53 | koen | zecke: could you modify the source checker to remove the downloaded stuff before testing another package? |
| 13:12.39 | zecke | florian_kc: no , I think the bugtracker is down, but only treke knows |
| 13:12.45 | zecke | koen: rm *.md5? |
| 13:13.03 | chouimat | oops ... just rolled the chair on the cat again |
| 13:13.35 | koen | zecke: rm DL_DIR/* |
| 13:13.46 | Mardy_ | is there any tool in OE for measuring X performance? |
| 13:13.53 | koen | zecke: so we can run the checker without needing gigs of diskspace |
| 13:13.54 | Mardy_ | something like x11perf |
| 13:14.05 | koen | Mardy_: the evas benchmarks? |
| 13:14.17 | zecke | koen: hmm |
| 13:14.27 | florian_kc | zecke: like hh.org ftp |
| 13:15.39 | zecke | florian_kc: hh.org ftp just worked here |
| 13:16.12 | koen|uni | bbl |
| 13:17.45 | zecke | *idling* |
| 13:18.12 | Mardy | btw, I think in few weeks we'll have an accelerated X server for the w100 |
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| 13:20.46 | mickey|office | cool |
| 13:21.07 | mickey|office | speaking about accelleration... anyone knows the status of pxa27x overlay fb driver in 2.6? |
| 13:21.26 | hrw|work | hi Cliff |
| 13:21.46 | hrw|work | 23 10:49 < sashz_horror> okay thankz. I rewrite kdrive for 7x0/860 now for acceleration on kernel 2.6 |
| 13:22.36 | hrw|work | Mardy: sashz is pain-in-ass to cooperate with too often but maybe you can cooperate? (he use xfree4.4 not xorg) |
| 13:22.45 | mickey|office | hmm |
| 13:22.51 | zecke | lol |
| 13:22.52 | mickey|office | knowing his code i doubt that |
| 13:22.57 | mickey|office | but better than nothing |
| 13:23.00 | mickey|office | *shrug* |
| 13:23.21 | Mardy | hrw|work: uh, I didn't know about him |
| 13:24.05 | hrw|work | sf.net upgrades mailman |
| 13:24.21 | hrw|work | Mardy: hi is the only one devel of pdaX'rom' |
| 13:25.08 | Mardy | mmm... someone told me not too good things about pdaXrom's w100 accelerated driver :-) |
| 13:25.26 | Mardy | but anyway, can you please give me his email address? |
| 13:25.27 | hrw|work | Mardy: xora probably ;) |
| 13:25.43 | Mardy | or some way to contact him? |
| 13:26.02 | hrw|work | Mardy: sash* on #cacko or "Alexander Chukov <sash@pdaxrom.org>" |
| 13:26.16 | Mardy | hrw|work: thanks! |
| 13:26.26 | hrw|work | np I have c760 ;D |
| 13:26.32 | Mardy | hehehe |
| 13:26.53 | Mardy | btw, I just accelerated solid fills so far :-) |
| 13:32.20 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354x * r13ea7495... 10/packages/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:32.20 | CIA-9 | add pyfits and pyrad and modern versions of python-everything, python-sharprom |
| 13:32.20 | CIA-9 | taken from .dev |
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| 13:34.52 | cbrake | hrw|work: hello |
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| 13:38.18 | hrw|work | cbrake: which distro/machine combo you usually use? |
| 13:38.41 | cbrake | hrw|work: debianslug/nslu2 |
| 13:38.53 | goxboxlive | What is wrong here? I am trying again to build a opie-image but it failes when trying to compile opie-bluepin. Then i am trying to build only opie-bluepin, but this happens: http://pastebin.com/732942 |
| 13:40.28 | zecke | compiled without rtti |
| 13:40.47 | zecke | dunno how that should be handled, try to ask mickeyl, he has the most clue of this ;) |
| 13:42.26 | goxboxlive | Zecke: Ok, thx. I guess i answer when i he see my question. Do you remember i had problems yesterday with the obex-ftp. For once it was not my incompability, there where something wrong with the file :-) |
| 13:43.17 | hrw|work | mickey|office: task-python-everything does not depend on new added python stuff? |
| 13:43.25 | zecke | goxboxlive: I'm in class atm... |
| 13:43.31 | zecke | goxboxlive: will be home at 22h |
| 13:43.51 | mickey|office | hrw|work: which stuff? |
| 13:43.59 | hrw|work | pyfits/pyrad |
| 13:44.06 | mickey|office | it should |
| 13:44.13 | zecke | goxboxlive: anyway, why don't you pin a SRCDATE? |
| 13:44.28 | mickey|office | hrw|work: i see it in there |
| 13:45.25 | hrw|work | mickey|office: here it does not work - atleast it looks like that after 'bitbake task-python-everything' |
| 13:45.56 | hrw|work | mickey|office: anyway - started build of pyrad/pyfits |
| 13:47.32 | mickey|office | goxboxlive: can't see how this should happen except when you mix old and new versions. this is a fresh rebuild? |
| 13:49.44 | cbrake_ | question about library names: I'm getting the following error message when trying to install using ipkg: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for clearsilver-doc: |
| 13:49.44 | cbrake_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.33 | mickey|office | cbrake: oops. found an uncommited patch in here :) |
| 13:50.46 | mickey|office | +RPROVIDES = "libncurses5" |
| 13:52.43 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r6e8dffd5... 10/packages/tcltk/tk_8.4.11.bb: tk: fix DEPENDS (.oz354x is older then .dev and has old ames for X11 stuff) |
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| 13:56.29 | cbrake_ | mickey|office: so where does ipkg get the libncurses5 dependency? I can't find anything in the ipkg metatdata -- does it dynamically determine lib dependencies during install? |
| 13:56.56 | hrw|work | cbrake: ncurses should provide libncurses5 package |
| 13:57.02 | mickey|office | the dependencies are coded in the packages file and in the individual packages |
| 13:57.16 | mickey|office | i have fixed this since long in my tree |
| 13:57.23 | mickey|office | i need to do mt diff more often :D |
| 13:59.18 | cbrake_ | I'm puzzled -- there are no Depends for clearsilver-doc in my Packages file ... |
| 13:59.32 | hrw|work | -doc does not get depends iirc |
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| 14:02.35 | cbrake_ | hrw|work: how does ipkg get the information then to complain about libncurses5 dependency? |
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| 14:04.16 | hrw|work | moment... |
| 14:04.33 | koen | hrw|work: I'm thinking about switching from the fdo kdrive to the xorg kdrive in .dev |
| 14:05.21 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rad100a5e... 10/packages/ncurses/ncurses.inc: ncurses.inc: RPROVIDES = libncurses5 |
| 14:05.23 | goxboxlive | mickey: yes i deleted everything last weekend, and started all over again. I have also done a poll and updfate today |
| 14:06.27 | hrw|work | koen: I do not use .dev to build images currently |
| 14:07.22 | mickey|office | goxboxlive: this is very hard to debug remotely. i can only say that it works here, i built gpe-image and opie-image yesterday |
| 14:07.32 | mickey|office | goxboxlive: which gcc/glibc are you usgin? |
| 14:07.40 | mickey|office | goes, even |
| 14:12.32 | hrw|work | cbrake_: -V3 |
| 14:16.31 | Zero_Chaos | Is OZ stable on the C3200? |
| 14:24.57 | cbrake_ | hrw|work: traced the dependecies back through to python-curses |
| 14:25.22 | cbrake_ | hrw|work: I'll get mickey's fix, but wanted to understand why |
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| 14:30.27 | Bernardo | hi |
| 14:30.45 | Bernardo | hi |
| 14:30.52 | hrw|work | python-2.4.3-manifest.inc:RDEPENDS_python-curses="python-core libncurses5" |
| 14:31.09 | hrw|work | cbrake_: this line is wrong |
| 14:31.10 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 14:31.23 | hrw|work | ~lart mickeyl for wrong RDEPENDS |
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| 14:48.57 | cbrake | hrw|work: so what is the difference between PROVIDES and RPROVIDES? |
| 14:49.08 | koen | build time and runtime |
| 14:49.23 | koen | I don't get why mickey; puts that 'fix' in |
| 14:49.24 | hrw|work | cbrake: PROVIDE is build-time, RPROVIDE is runtime |
| 14:49.30 | koen | since a package always RPROVIDES itself |
| 14:49.47 | hrw|work | koen: ncurses does not rprovide libncurses5 |
| 14:49.59 | hrw|work | koen: but is in python manifest rather |
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| 14:51.35 | koen | aha |
| 14:51.38 | cbrake | so does RPROVIDES end up in the ipkg Provides field? |
| 14:51.44 | koen | ncursus packaging is wrong |
| 14:51.51 | koen | cbrake: yes |
| 14:52.01 | koen | Package: ncurses Version: 5.4-r8 |
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| 14:52.12 | koen | that should get renames to libncurses5 |
| 14:52.17 | koen | renamed* |
| 14:54.14 | hrw|work | koen: nope |
| 14:54.25 | hrw|work | koen: this package contain more then just library |
| 14:54.56 | fdv | there's a typo in org.openembedded.dev/packages/flex/flex.inc. the file part of the url should be "/flex/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2", not "/lex/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2", if anybody would want to fix :) |
| 14:55.10 | fdv | no rush for me |
| 14:56.36 | koen | hrw|work: why does it contain more? ncurses already has a few zillion subpackages |
| 14:57.49 | hrw|work | really? |
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| 14:59.42 | koen | ncurses-{dev,doc,terminfo,tools} |
| 15:00.01 | JustinP | ~/away bus |
| 15:00.19 | hrw|work | look how much stuff is in ncurses itself... minimal terminfo set, few binaries |
| 15:00.26 | koen | I see |
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| 15:00.57 | rob_w | sorry guys .. what was again that way to compile glibc --- something in local.conf called OE_EXTRA_CONF or such |
| 15:01.37 | JustinP | rob_w: eh? glibc should be compiled without any extra settings |
| 15:02.08 | hrw|work | cbrake: can you install mc on dev.? |
| 15:02.12 | rob_w | for i386 not |
| 15:02.32 | rob_w | we had this today discussed but i closed my chat window before saving the strings |
| 15:02.51 | hrw|work | ~logs |
| 15:02.53 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
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| 15:03.56 | CosmicPenguin | i386 compiles fine without any OE_EXTRA_CONF |
| 15:06.19 | rob_w | hrw|work, i will there tomorrow .. thanks |
| 15:07.59 | cbrake | hrw|work: mc installed |
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| 15:13.50 | CosmicPenguin | anyone here clued into the new X development cycle? |
| 15:14.25 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the procedure for releasing a new driver - seeing as though it no longer is tied into the major monolithic release? |
| 15:14.36 | koen | no idea |
| 15:14.59 | koen | CosmicPenguin: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/88/8863.html |
| 15:15.33 | koen | CosmicPenguin: I suspect they release a 7.x every six months and release bugfix releases of parts when needed |
| 15:16.28 | CosmicPenguin | Indeed - thats probably it |
| 15:16.28 | CosmicPenguin | since all the individual drivers have both the X7.1 and individual versions in the tarball name |
| 15:17.52 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 15:25.20 | hrw|work | thx cbrake |
| 15:26.21 | CosmicPenguin | we did all that work for 7.0, and now we need to do it for 7.1 again.. :) |
| 15:26.56 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: this time it should be smaller: lot of monotone rename |
| 15:27.09 | koen | CosmicPenguin: are you building xorg for alchemy boards as well? |
| 15:27.36 | CosmicPenguin | koen: actually, I've never done that personally |
| 15:28.04 | CosmicPenguin | I know that people have done it - its all fbdev based, so it should be basic |
| 15:28.06 | CosmicPenguin | I have built QTE for the alchemy before though - heh |
| 15:28.07 | koen | I ran into some "wants to run binaries" trouble when trying to merge to xorg stuff in bugzilla |
| 15:28.16 | koen | and some missing stuff in the site files |
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| 15:42.05 | goxboxlive | nickeyl: I am using gcc-3.4.4 but the glibc i have no idea.. ust that i the local.conf has prefferd_prvider ******** "glibc" |
| 15:44.39 | goxboxlive | MIckeyl: Once more. Just that it's written in local.conf prefferd_provider_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc="glibc" |
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| 15:48.50 | goxboxlive | Mickeyl: Forget it, i'll start a new fresh org.open***.dev |
| 15:53.02 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gnutls-1.4.0-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 15:56.00 | mickey|office | goxboxlive: one more... don't use familiar as distro |
| 15:56.06 | mickey|office | openzaurus-unstable is atm. better maintained in .dev |
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| 15:58.14 | koen | mickey|office: unmaintained everywhere in monotone |
| 15:58.20 | koen | mickey|office: move it to nonworking ;) |
| 15:58.40 | mickey|office | that would be a bit too offensive atm. |
| 15:59.24 | koen | offensive would be adding a check for familiar in bitbake and/or sanity.conf |
| 16:01.02 | Genesis | bye |
| 16:01.06 | florian_kc | hmm right, anyone an idea why they don't check in latest changes? |
| 16:01.35 | koen | florian_kc: they even have stopped inventing excuses and went to plain ignoring OE |
| 16:03.53 | koen | hrw|work: is that gnutls with or without the extra ssl addons? |
| 16:04.20 | florian_kc | i wonder if i want to maintain familiar in oe myself... |
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| 16:04.54 | koen | florian_kc: you could do it in OE, but I bet some people would get nasty |
| 16:04.55 | hrw|work | koen: with |
| 16:05.04 | koen | *cough*hhorg*cough* |
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| 16:05.26 | florian_kc | koen: we are surrounded by people getting nasty... |
| 16:05.56 | hrw|work | koen: its 1.3.5->1.4.0 recipe |
| 16:06.31 | koen | florian_kc: and all because france + gang needed to take over from me |
| 16:06.48 | koen | ah well |
| 16:06.58 | koen | let them suffer in their own misery |
| 16:08.39 | goxboxlive | mickeyl: Ok, but what shall i use as distro then? |
| 16:08.59 | koen | goxboxlive: DISTRO="openzaurus-unstable" |
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| 16:09.23 | florian_kc | koen: do you know if there are importent fixes available we might want to check in? |
| 16:09.28 | koen | mickey|office: if you are going to recommend OZ to !zaurus hw, you'd might want to consider making checkversion machine specific |
| 16:09.48 | koen | florian_kc: they are in the images and on rene's/eriks disks |
| 16:09.49 | mickey|office | koen: that should be already |
| 16:09.55 | koen | florian_kc: so they aren't really available |
| 16:10.08 | koen | mickey|office: I have checkversion on my h2200 and hx4700..... |
| 16:10.22 | florian_kc | koen: pb__ mentioned some important bugfixes in bugzilla yesterday... iirc |
| 16:10.26 | goxboxlive | koen: But i am using the HTC Universal ( i-mate JasJar) |
| 16:10.31 | koen | goxboxlive: so? |
| 16:10.39 | koen | either you take the advice, or you don't |
| 16:10.53 | goxboxlive | koen: : ai ai sir :-) |
| 16:10.58 | hrw|work | gnutls 1.4.0: Depends: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.2.2), libgpg-error0 (>= 1.3), libgcc1 (>= 4.0.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.5+cvs20050627) |
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| 16:11.23 | koen | hrw|work: that's not too much |
| 16:11.37 | florian_kc | hmm.. do we have experience with openzaurus on ipaq? |
| 16:11.56 | koen | florian_kc: as I said, it runs on my h2200 and hx4700 |
| 16:12.11 | koen | florian_kc: it runs great, much faster thanks to softfloat |
| 16:12.25 | florian_kc | koen: okay... waht does "checkversion" do? |
| 16:12.34 | hrw|work | florian_kc: check kernel version |
| 16:12.50 | hrw|work | florian_kc: initscripts got hardcoded kernel version and check running kernel |
| 16:13.05 | hrw|work | florian_kc: OZ users too often forgot to flash OZ kernel |
| 16:13.13 | florian_kc | hrw|work: uh |
| 16:13.30 | koen | actually, on the hx4700 and h2200 is makes sense |
| 16:15.33 | hrw|work | will push gnutls 1.4.0, libgpg-error 1.3 later |
| 16:15.43 | florian_kc | on the older ones it doesn't i guess... |
| 16:16.09 | lardman|work | Perhaps time is ripe for a distribution name now then - an Angstrom-pre |
| 16:16.20 | lardman|work | s/name/name change |
| 16:16.54 | florian_kc | eh cries |
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| 16:27.43 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 16:28.04 | Philippe | hello koen |
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| 16:29.52 | frg | looks like bitbake finally magically discovered it should build the arm tools |
| 16:30.10 | frg | lets see how it goes |
| 16:32.39 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 16:33.06 | koen | ey woglinde |
| 16:33.09 | frg | hmm... as of now it builds gettext, flex, bison so that IS binutils ;) ... however only the native x86 ones right now |
| 16:33.17 | frg | hi both of you |
| 16:33.22 | woglinde | hi frg |
| 16:34.19 | frg | hope this finally works... or else im gonna use the old method for building opie :D |
| 16:34.23 | hrw|work | cu |
| 16:35.59 | woglinde | frg which old method? |
| 16:37.19 | goxboxlive | If i am deleting OE. And download a new OE.db and start all over again. How do i prevent bitbake to generate locales when i am building in example an opie or gpe image? I have tried the an patch, bu that missmatc my version. |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc5657a49... 10/packages/gnutls/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-9 | gnutls: added 1.4.0 (current stable) |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-9 | - we probably should drop 1.0.xx (old old stable) |
| 16:38.37 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.41 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rce949228... 10/packages/libgpg-error/ (libgpg-error-1.3/pkgconfig.patch libgpg-error_1.3.bb): libgpg-error: added 1.3 |
| 16:39.33 | koen | goxboxlive: why wouldn't you want the locales? |
| 16:39.56 | woglinde | koen maybe he wants to avoid the 1 hour locales generation |
| 16:40.09 | woglinde | from glibc |
| 16:40.24 | koen | woglinde: either wait an hour extra, or won't be able to build at all |
| 16:40.42 | koen | woglinde: it seems goxboxlive has wasted 3 days trying to avoid building the locales |
| 16:41.00 | woglinde | koen hm |
| 16:41.02 | koen | 3 days vs 1 hour.... tough choice |
| 16:41.30 | koen | woglinde: I'm an engineer, so I say "make it work first, optimize later" |
| 16:41.37 | woglinde | koen yes |
| 16:42.37 | woglinde | hm new xorg |
| 16:42.41 | frg | woglinde: you know... the non-oe one ;) http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/qt-notes.php ... if it still works, ofcourse |
| 16:43.06 | woglinde | frg for which device you want build? |
| 16:43.12 | frg | h3600 |
| 16:43.27 | woglinde | ah didnt have luck with familar? |
| 16:43.38 | frg | im trying |
| 16:43.39 | koen | s/familiar/bitrot/ |
| 16:43.46 | woglinde | koen *g* |
| 16:43.52 | woglinde | I told him yesterday |
| 16:44.00 | woglinde | in otherways |
| 16:44.13 | frg | :O |
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| 16:44.46 | woglinde | hm it should be possible with openzaurus-unstable |
| 16:45.09 | frg | anyways... fetching binutils right now... will take an hour with my connection... we'll see... |
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| 16:51.45 | goxboxlive | koen/woglinde: Last time i generated the locales it took me 24h ( i am not kidding) to build a gpe-image. |
| 16:52.05 | woglinde | goxbox I remeber |
| 16:52.16 | woglinde | goxobox with angstroem or openzaurus? |
| 16:52.39 | goxboxlive | koen: Why do i wnt the locales, i just need the english one. I have use for arabian locales, neither frence ones. |
| 16:52.54 | goxboxlive | woglinde: it was 'familiar' |
| 16:53.22 | woglinde | hm it should glibc 2.3.6 right? |
| 16:53.47 | goxboxlive | How do i check that? |
| 16:55.00 | goxboxlive | Actually, i just dint get it why it takes so long on my macjhine. It is an XP2500 and i have 1GB ram. Is that to little to build with OE |
| 16:55.37 | woglinde | familiar or familiar-unstable? |
| 16:55.54 | goxboxlive | familiar, i have had problems with unstable before. |
| 16:56.24 | likewise | goxboxlive: 1 GB should be enough. |
| 16:56.37 | woglinde | jepp |
| 16:57.05 | woglinde | my openzaurus-toolchain generateted the glibc locales in one hour |
| 16:57.11 | woglinde | xp2800 with 1 gig ram |
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| 16:57.34 | woglinde | is your hardisk in dma-mode? |
| 16:57.48 | goxboxlive | hold on, i'll check |
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| 17:01.38 | goxboxlive | woglinde: How do i check that on a SATA disk? |
| 17:01.44 | woglinde | ah okay |
| 17:01.57 | woglinde | at sata there is no dma mode |
| 17:02.04 | woglinde | or pio |
| 17:02.09 | woglinde | its always fastest |
| 17:02.18 | goxboxlive | :-) ok, the rest of my disks ( IDE ) ll where enabled |
| 17:02.26 | woglinde | hm |
| 17:02.41 | woglinde | dont know whats going wrong at your computer |
| 17:03.01 | woglinde | okay have to reboot |
| 17:03.04 | woglinde | new kernel |
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| 17:07.18 | woglinde | re |
| 17:07.23 | woglinde | hm |
| 17:07.29 | woglinde | it runs faster I think |
| 17:07.56 | lardman|work | bye guys |
| 17:08.17 | woglinde | bye lardmand |
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| 17:13.26 | cyrilRomain | How can I get the list of patches applied to a certain package ? |
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| 17:14.43 | woglinde | heja kergoth |
| 17:14.57 | kergoth | hey |
| 17:14.57 | florian_kc | hi kergoth |
| 17:16.10 | cyrilRomain | a_cerain_package/*.patch, no more no less ? |
| 17:16.52 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 17:17.05 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 17:17.11 | pb_ | yo woglinde |
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| 17:17.55 | woglinde | re goxbox |
| 17:19.07 | florian_kc | cyrilRomain: it depends, you need to check in the bb file |
| 17:19.09 | goxboxlive | Ok, i have started all over again. But should i use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch or the **.dev branch. when i am building for a HTC UNiversal |
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| 17:19.31 | woglinde | goxobox he did you buy one? |
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| 17:20.01 | woglinde | goxbox try the .dev branch and set distro to openzaurus |
| 17:20.06 | goxboxlive | Yes, i bought one this autum :-) |
| 17:20.25 | cyrilRomain | florian_kc: ok, I'll take a deeper look then, thx |
| 17:20.32 | goxboxlive | Why openzaurs ( i am a newbie u know) |
| 17:20.56 | woglinde | goxbox hm than better use the available image for the htc |
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| 17:21.40 | goxboxlive | Wich available image? he one at handhelds.org? |
| 17:22.16 | woglinde | hm okay |
| 17:22.31 | woglinde | its the mda pro |
| 17:22.55 | woglinde | look here |
| 17:22.57 | woglinde | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalProgress |
| 17:23.20 | florian_kc | woglinde: they are pretty cheap in .de now :-) |
| 17:23.36 | woglinde | florian the pro or mdaIII? |
| 17:23.52 | woglinde | mdaIII 100-150 euros at ebay for the pro I didnt look |
| 17:25.32 | woglinde | hm oh the motorola a780 and the htc share the same camera modell |
| 17:25.50 | goxboxlive | woglinde: Yes i know about that image, but that's an modified Blueangel image. I have buildt an newer image with OE, but there are som bugs in it. http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 17:25.56 | florian_kc | woglinde: the pro... you can get them for less than 400 at ebay. |
| 17:26.12 | woglinde | florian still a lot of money for me |
| 17:26.19 | woglinde | even 150 |
| 17:26.24 | woglinde | for a mda III |
| 17:26.43 | florian_kc | woglinde: true... it would be even much for me, but i'm really tempted to try it. |
| 17:27.49 | woglinde | goxbox hm what types of bugs? |
| 17:28.25 | cyrilRomain | florian_kc: is there a special bitbake command that can give me the final list of patches applied ? ('bitbake -v -D' apparently does not list them) |
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| 17:28.52 | woglinde | cyril the easiest way is to look in the .bb |
| 17:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | or jump in to the work directory and quilt applied |
| 17:31.47 | cyrilRomain | ok, thx |
| 17:32.55 | goxboxlive | woglinde: Like the Irattach is pointed to /dev/ttyS1 , wich is our Bluetooth, IRDA should be at ttyS2. And the inittab does not have virtual consoles (tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4) out of the box. ALl the modules doesnt install right ( have to do it manually afterward). And the touchscreen doesnt work, have to add something to tslib.sh and make a ts-conf file. |
| 17:34.29 | goxboxlive | There are more bugs, like during boot it clamimes opver taht it doeant have support for vfat,ext2,ext3 on ram0 -> ram11. I have to copy the /proc/filesystems to /etc/filesystems to get rid of this. |
| 17:35.13 | goxboxlive | And the last one, it is very slow, very slow |
| 17:37.50 | pb_ | cyrilRomain: it ought to be fairly straightforward to use bitbake -c showdata | grep ^SRC_URI and then a bit of awk post-processing to extract the "patch=1" uris. |
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| 17:56.20 | cbrake_ | is this a fairly standard way to debug builds -- looking for the best techniques for the faq: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/OeFaq#head-7fb463176940807fd4f6d0a04773933339f5634c |
| 17:59.29 | koen | cbrake_: 'bitbake devshell' should do the same |
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| 18:01.00 | koen | cbrake_: it will create a sourceable script in deploy/addons |
| 18:06.34 | cbrake | koen: wow, that is useful thing to know |
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| 18:14.45 | koen | ~spell integrity |
| 18:14.54 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 18:14.54 | ibot | thanks, koen |
| 18:17.34 | woglinde | ~spell integer |
| 18:19.04 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r6d0a9eb5... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: Add a section about how to get OE |
| 18:19.22 | woglinde | hm where is zecke |
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| 18:23.38 | woglinde | hi reenoo |
| 18:24.02 | reenoo | re |
| 18:24.04 | reenoo | hey woglinde |
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| 19:01.09 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1a204644... 10/packages/liboil/ (liboil_0.3.6.bb liboil_0.3.9.bb): liboil: update to 0.3.9 |
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| 19:04.18 | woglinde | hm whats liboil for? |
| 19:04.34 | koen | optimizations |
| 19:04.39 | woglinde | ??? |
| 19:04.42 | koen | oil = optimized inner loops |
| 19:04.48 | woglinde | ah |
| 19:04.56 | koen | fast implementations of lots of functions |
| 19:05.01 | goxboxlive | just to have something to play with while OE generates the locales i build a xfce-image before i deleted the *.*.dev branch. But how do i get the xfce to work. |
| 19:05.35 | goxboxlive | Because the Xfbdev works. X starts, but nit xfce. How do i link the xcfe to Xfbdev? |
| 19:05.52 | CosmicPenguin | put it in your xsession somehwere |
| 19:06.05 | woglinde | something like for (bla=0, 0 < 3, bla++) a = a + bla; resulting in a = a +0 a= a+1 a= a+3 |
| 19:06.18 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r098476e9... 10/packages/schroedinger/schroedinger_0.2.0.0.bb: schroedinger: at first public release of the schroedinger/dirac codec. The package includes a librady and gstreamer plugin |
| 19:06.22 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0160cc9d... 10/packages/schroedinger/schroedinger_0.2.0.0.bb: schroedinger: at some missing metadata bits |
| 19:06.42 | koen | CosmicPenguin: xfwm doesn't work on kdrive due to xcomposite |
| 19:06.43 | CosmicPenguin | schroedinger - what happens when uncreative project namers start hitting the "Random Page" on Wikipedia |
| 19:06.49 | CosmicPenguin | koen: oh, sad! |
| 19:07.30 | koen | CosmicPenguin: 24 bits != 888RGB but 5658RGBA |
| 19:07.59 | hrw|husky | hi |
| 19:08.03 | CosmicPenguin | thats ok - xfce is really for full blooded machines anyway |
| 19:08.13 | CosmicPenguin | I prefer Matchbox |
| 19:08.16 | hrw|husky | gnutls need to ship m4 and pkgconfig probably |
| 19:09.16 | goxboxlive | FYI: My locales has started to generat. I'll report back when they are finished. I started to build 'nano' |
| 19:10.02 | hrw|husky | goxboxlive: 1-3h |
| 19:11.38 | goxboxlive | hrw: Last time i took me allmost 24h :-) . |
| 19:12.03 | hrw|husky | goxboxlive: pentium 200mhz? |
| 19:12.19 | koen | ~lart html mail |
| 19:12.26 | goxboxlive | hrw: :-) xp2500 1GB ram. |
| 19:12.56 | hrw|husky | goxboxlive: axp1700/768 or axp2200/1024 here |
| 19:14.43 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: you are amd guy... sempron64 2500 (cheapest), semp64 3100 (cool&quiet first model) or athlon64? |
| 19:14.45 | goxboxlive | koen: So you mean that i can not use xfce with my universal. I am using kdrive-fbdev. I have managed to start it before. But i had to start it inside GPE while GPE was running. But it was so slow that i just deleted everything (again :-) ) |
| 19:15.21 | CosmicPenguin | athlon64, if its for a desktop.. :) |
| 19:15.34 | CosmicPenguin | but the sempron is good for the budget minded |
| 19:15.50 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: cash limited.. a64 = semp2500 with board on via |
| 19:16.17 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: im thinking of cheapest upgrade to amd64 |
| 19:17.29 | CosmicPenguin | hmm... I'm not sure on what semprons fit in a socket 939 |
| 19:17.42 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: and how much give cool&quiet? |
| 19:18.13 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: semp64 are s754 here.. i do not count s939 ones boundled with some boards |
| 19:18.14 | CosmicPenguin | its cooler and quieter.. :) |
| 19:18.24 | CosmicPenguin | depends where the boxen is going |
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| 19:20.11 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: i would exchange axp2200 which goes ~56C |
| 19:20.11 | CosmicPenguin | sempron should be cooler then that |
| 19:20.13 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: cooler like cooler.. i prefer quiet :) |
| 19:20.13 | chris144 | good night |
| 19:20.21 | hrw|husky | n8 chris144 |
| 19:20.30 | chris144 | ni hrw|husky |
| 19:21.14 | CosmicPenguin | I have an Opteron in my office right now, and its not noisy, but it sure is hot |
| 19:21.24 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: but does semp64/2500 will be faster in 64bit then axp2200... I rather wont go to 3100 one |
| 19:21.52 | koen | CosmicPenguin: cool&quiet? |
| 19:22.04 | hrw|husky | opteron is definitelly no way |
| 19:22.25 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_9487%5E10272,00.html |
| 19:22.37 | KenJlime | mickey|bbl: you there man? |
| 19:22.57 | hrw|husky | CosmicPenguin: no way to get link.. |
| 19:23.10 | CosmicPenguin | I know, I know - stupid AMD website |
| 19:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | but koen was asking questions |
| 19:23.28 | hrw|husky | opt140 is 850 pln.. |
| 19:23.30 | CosmicPenguin | thats just an overview of the Cool & Quiet stuff |
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| 19:24.41 | hrw|husky | a64/3000 is 430 sem64/2500 is 240 pln |
| 19:24.46 | KenJlime | koen: I cannot compile qte-mt 2.3.10 for the sh3 arch, but 2.3.12 works fine. Therefore Ive set a preferred version. But the opie include file overrides it, so I basicly want a ? infront of that = |
| 19:25.08 | hrw|husky | KenJlime: include opie and then set to 2.3.12 |
| 19:25.11 | koen | you'll have to talk to the resident qt/e hackers |
| 19:25.55 | KenJlime | hrw|husky: Why not set all opie libraries with ?= that way we can override them? |
| 19:26.09 | KenJlime | doh |
| 19:26.12 | KenJlime | just realized something |
| 19:26.18 | KenJlime | your right |
| 19:26.25 | hrw|husky | KenJlime: ask mickeyl - i do not use .dev branch for device work |
| 19:26.38 | KenJlime | will do, know how to do for now atleast |
| 19:29.11 | hrw|husky | cu |
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| 19:57.53 | florian | re |
| 20:11.53 | koen | ~lart thunderbird 1.5 |
| 20:13.05 | KenJlime | koen: could you commit #1011 |
| 20:13.51 | goxboxlive | FYI: The locales are generated. |
| 20:16.30 | frg | small question: i've interrupted a build in the middle of do_populate_staging ... can i resume that without having to build it from start again? |
| 20:17.02 | KenJlime | frg: yes |
| 20:17.09 | frg | stage? |
| 20:17.19 | KenJlime | frg: it does that auto |
| 20:17.39 | frg | oh really? |
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| 20:18.58 | frg | zomg... its Great! :D |
| 20:19.02 | frg | lol |
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| 20:19.48 | frg | didn't try that, got scared it would start all over again with unpacking the tarball :) |
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| 20:39.28 | fdv | does internal compiler error on gcc-cross-initial sound familiar to anybody? |
| 20:39.41 | woglinde | which toolchain? |
| 20:40.07 | fdv | uhm, sorry? |
| 20:40.22 | woglinde | binutls 3424323.34 |
| 20:40.26 | woglinde | gcc 5.6.7 |
| 20:40.26 | fdv | just set up oe/bitbake following the getting-started stuff |
| 20:40.29 | woglinde | glibc 89.34 |
| 20:40.39 | fdv | ok |
| 20:43.30 | fdv | I presume the tools used are the native ones (x86) |
| 20:43.42 | fdv | gcc there is 4.0.3 |
| 20:44.58 | fdv | binutils is 2.16.1cvs20060117-1 |
| 20:45.31 | florian | koen: do orinoco-modules (oz-unstable, .dev) build for you? |
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| 20:46.43 | fdv | libc is 2.3.6-7 |
| 20:49.48 | fdv | woglinde: those the ones you meant? |
| 20:50.27 | zecke | koen: tomorrow I have some more time again |
| 21:11.12 | koen | florian: no, neither do the atmeldrivers |
| 21:11.17 | koen | florian: with kernel 2.6, that is |
| 21:16.21 | florian | koen: same with 2.4, looks like spectrum_cs triggers a ggc 4.0 bug |
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| 21:33.14 | frg | zecke: the build process works fine now :) (building glibc for arm right now) |
| 21:33.29 | zecke | frg: awesome, what was the resolution? |
| 21:33.38 | frg | not that i know what was wrong before ;) |
| 21:33.52 | frg | maybe the update to bitbaker 1.4.2 |
| 21:35.12 | frg | i mean the 1.4.0 i had before didnt work well and now 1.4.2 works |
| 21:36.21 | frg | i dont remember any other significant change ^^ |
| 21:37.50 | frg | and i stopped playing with having and not having external crosscompiler used and decided to have it built inside |
| 21:40.08 | zecke | frg: have you seen the Documentation on using prebuilt toolchains and implications with that decision? |
| 21:40.35 | frg | i guess not... |
| 21:41.19 | zecke | http://oe.handhelds.org/usermanual/ch05s05.html |
| 21:41.40 | zecke | there are some implications and issues ahead |
| 21:41.54 | frg | i've chosen a prebuilt one after it failed many times to build its own |
| 21:42.05 | zecke | ah okay ;) |
| 21:42.12 | zecke | I was forced to use a pre-built one |
| 21:42.29 | frg | and then i've forgotten to remove it from path (if that mattered) ;) |
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| 21:45.29 | frg | hmm... looks like it is not very straightforward to set that up correctly |
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| 22:09.11 | frg|asleep | good night |
| 22:23.11 | fdv | woglinde: thanks, you put me on the right track. upgrading gcc helped :) |
| 22:23.12 | woglinde | fdv no prob |
| 22:25.37 | zecke | nite |
| 22:25.44 | florian | zecke: gn |
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| 22:42.43 | Greg2 | hello |
| 22:43.44 | Greg2 | until i pick up a larger hd for my laptop i thought i would set up oe on my desktop |
| 22:43.50 | Greg2 | my desktop only has 512mb of ram, will that be a problem? |
| 22:44.57 | woglinde | greg2 no |
| 22:45.14 | woglinde | compiling will be a little bit slower than with 1 gig |
| 22:45.24 | woglinde | but principal no prob |
| 22:46.01 | Greg2 | woglinde ok thanks |
| 22:46.19 | Greg2 | does anyone still use the cow patch, or is that built in.. or not needed now |
| 22:46.57 | woglinde | use bitbake 1.4.2 as suggested in the topic |
| 22:47.50 | CosmicPenguin | wow - I haven't heard "cow" in quite a long time |
| 22:48.24 | Greg2 | that must be why i couldn't find out much about it |
| 22:49.25 | Greg2 | thanks, it's time to build |
| 22:49.29 | Greg2 | s/build/bitbake |
| 22:49.38 | Greg2 | bye all |
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| 22:56.25 | JustinP | hrw|gone: any reason you didn't put up e-image for rc4? I'm getting worried that there are strange discrepancies between our build systems... |
| 23:10.08 | JustinP | koen: what *is* going on....who sent what insults? I'm honestly at a loss for what happened with Familiar |
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| 23:35.05 | JustinP | hrw|gone: my fears have been confirmed....rxvt works fine in your oz 3.5.4.1 rc4 image but in mine it doesn't. And you seem to keep having gcc compilation errors whereas I don't. |
| 23:35.34 | JustinP | hrw|gone: I'll try another pull and update and rebuild to see if some magic will happen on my system... |
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