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00:35.26radugayes :)
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00:46.56EccoHello Guys
00:47.17hobbshello dolphins
00:47.29Eccowow, you're a funny guy
00:47.55EccoDid you suck a clown recently or something ?
00:48.04hobbsdie.
00:48.11hobbsin a fire.
00:48.24Ecco:-D
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00:51.31JustinP_JoeSchmo: you can also try my images: http://oe.reversefold.com/images/
00:52.01JoeSchmoah, cool, i might
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03:49.00JustinPjohnX: remember that there's altboot and loopback images for tetsing too :-)
03:49.04JustinPoops
03:49.10JustinPJoeSchmo: remember that there's altboot and loopback images for tetsing too :-)
03:50.29JustinPhrw|gone: NOTE: package gcc-3.4.4: completed
03:50.37JustinPhrw|gone: I don't understand why gcc keeps failing for you....
03:51.11JustinPJoeSchmo: I would greatly appreciate a test of my e-image as it works fine for me...I want to make sure it works for someone else too
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04:04.39ahonorecan anyone help with a "package binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2: task do_compile: failed"
04:05.04JustinPwhat is the real error?
04:05.52ahonore/home/bitbake/pvr/build/tmp/work/i586-linux/binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2/binutils-2.15.94.0.1/gas/config/tc-i386.h:441: error: array type has incomplete
04:06.15ahonoreelement type
04:06.43ahonorei tried a manual build same error
04:07.09ahonoreit seems to be hanging on gas
04:07.24JustinP-r2?
04:07.37JustinPhmmm...I have -r1 in oz354xx
04:07.47JustinPanyway, I don't know why that error is happening...
04:07.52JustinPsorry
04:08.09ahonorehow do you change to a different verion
04:08.15ahonoreversion
04:09.27JustinPyou don't usually
04:09.36JustinPwhat build host?
04:09.54ahonoreepia
04:10.16JustinPyour host?
04:10.49ahonorebuild.i686-linux.i586-oe-linux/
04:11.03JustinPi686 & i586?
04:11.21ahonoreyea i am thinking the same thing
04:11.30ahonorebut in the config it is i586
04:11.46ahonorelocal config
04:12.44JustinPin where?
04:12.47ahonore/home/bitbake/pvr/build/tmp/work/i586-linux/binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2/binutils-2.15.94.0.1/gas/app.c:31:
04:13.00JustinPno
04:13.01ahonorethis is the location of the fail that errors
04:13.07JustinPI'm asking what machine you're building on
04:13.27ahonorethe local.conf is in my ...build/conf/local.conf
04:13.56ahonorei686
04:13.58ahonoredual
04:15.17ahonorewell thanks anyway i'll see if i can get a x86 to build it might be because of epia
04:16.23JustinPyeah, arm is the best supported target
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05:06.44ahonorei removed the version of binutils and it compiled 2.16 and is still going hopefully that was the issue
05:18.51mithromuhahaha http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php
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06:41.18gremlin[it]morning all :)
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07:07.42gremlin[it]mhhh i got an error building boostrap-image for h3600
07:07.49gremlin[it]>>> Nothing provides runtime dependency ipkg-linkudev <<<
07:29.26gremlin[it]found : add a space after 'ipkg-link' on file classes/package_ipk.bbclass
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08:48.49pb_gremlin[it]: probably the other way around: you need to add a space before "udev", whereever that's being appended
08:50.29gremlin[it]pb_ i did after ipkg-link ... but what should be the general rule ? a space at beginning or at end ?
08:52.17pb_gremlin[it]: when appending, at the beginning
08:52.57pb_incidentally, it seems like a bug that package_ipk.bbclass is adding ipkg-link in there at all.
08:52.58gremlin[it]ah ok ... do probably, as u said, is udev to be changed :)
08:53.41pb_yeah.  it would be silly to require a trailing space in every variable, just in case something is to be appended to it
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09:25.43zeckekoen: ping
09:25.53zeckekoen: http://www.com2linux.de/psp/
09:26.02zeckekoen: you can do indoor camping as well ;)
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09:27.27swshi, can someone provide a NAND backup for poodle with pxa255 ?
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09:28.48zeckesws: tried #openzaurus?
09:29.05swszecke: will ask there too
09:36.17goxboxliveHithere Zecke: Now we have fully working touchscreen in the htc universal. It's about time to get the Universal in to the OE .
09:37.33pb_hail zecke
09:38.39zeckegoxboxlive: nice :)
09:38.54zeckegoxboxlive: I will be in the gym the next two hours, either chat with some one else or wait :)
09:40.09goxboxlivewe have also managed to get the acx100 to go online, it failes when we overload it ( like internett, irc and gaim) but it's stable when just using one of the appz at time.
09:40.20goxboxliveyes
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09:41.26zeckenice, and how far is the wavecom modem?
09:41.45zeckedo you 'speak' the Wavecom Multiplexer yet?
09:42.36zeckeokay cya, I'm almost late and my head will be chopped off by al :}
09:49.05ahonorecan anyone get x86 to build a root image?
09:49.26ahonorefrom the latest sources
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10:29.57Ifaistosahonore : libc or uclibc ? i had another person having problems with libc
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12:29.36woglindehi
12:30.46koenhey woglinde
12:31.21woglindekoen is monotone 0.26 usabel for oe?
12:31.29woglindeuseable
12:31.53koenif you forget about the protocol incompatibilities and the new database format, yes
12:32.19koenso that's a no
12:32.28woglindehm????
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12:35.20koenwoglinde: wait for zecke's upgrade proposal before installing >= 0.26
12:35.35woglindeto late *g*
12:37.59likewisehi all
12:39.33koenlikewise: likewise
12:39.40woglindehi likewise
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12:42.10woglindere chouimat
12:42.35chouimatmorning
12:45.15koen~spell sourceable
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12:48.08koenhey zecke
12:48.50koenzecke: we need some guidelines for the OE tree in the docbook examples
12:49.05koen<PROTECTED>
12:49.47woglindehe zecke
12:50.35chouimaterrr %
12:50.38chouimaterr 5
12:53.33zeckekoen: /where/is/OE?
12:54.14CIA-903koen 07org.oe.documentation * rc7c4334f... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: sourcable -> source-able
12:54.19CIA-903koen 07org.oe.documentation * rdf0dc162... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: insert a : between and /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
12:54.26koenheh
12:54.34koenstupid shell expansion
12:54.59koennext I'll use '' with -m instead of ""
12:55.40koenzecke: and it seems our writing styles are different
12:55.56zeckekoen: do you know which tool is recently favored to for recording the screen to flash?
12:55.59zeckekoen: mine suck ;)
12:56.00koenzecke: you do "example, text" and I do "test: example"
12:56.14zecketest, I avoid tests
12:56.23koens/test/text/
12:56.35zeckekoen: you have <screen></screen><para>Descrbing the screen?
12:56.36koen"recording the screen to flash"?
12:56.55koenI use <screen> for examples
12:56.57zeckekoen: recording a movie from the X Display
12:57.20koenistanbul or byzanz
12:57.33zeckekoen: I have no strong feeling... I thought I had followed your style
12:57.58koenzecke: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting
12:58.23koenzecke: I have no strong feeling either, just a feeling we need a style guide :)
12:58.42zeckekoen: write it as doocbook article ;)
13:00.20zeckekoen: hmm I thought there was a better tool...
13:00.37koenzecke: check the references: section
13:01.41koenzecke: and I think I broke pdf generation with those funky nordic characters....
13:02.50zeckekoen: I think I wanted wink
13:08.10katossidamn, http://www.oesources.org/source/current/JavaScriptCore_cvs.sourceforge.net__20060212.tar.gz is still not available, is there any other place to get it?
13:10.51koenkatossi: sourceforge cvs
13:12.05zeckekoen: could I run the source checker on ewi?
13:12.11zeckekoen: do we have enough place?
13:12.47katossikoen: could bitbake take the file from sf if oesources fails?
13:13.08zeckekatossi: bitbake does not have super cow powers
13:13.20pb_zecke: drat, what happened to them?
13:13.23zeckekoen: france was not in #hh.org the recent 10 days
13:13.51zeckekatossi: is it failing to fetch using cvs?
13:14.07zeckekatossi: this tarball stash is just a feature, it will fallback to the real thing
13:14.17zeckekoen: Great the doppler effect ;)
13:14.52katossisorry, it was trying to get it from the cvs, but It's failing
13:15.07katossiI'm having so many problems with sf lately, I don't believe it
13:16.18zeckekatossi: well, sf.net changed their cvs service
13:18.35zeckekatossi: it is likely we will need to adjust each SF.net cvs account
13:20.12katossiok
13:21.02zeckeoops
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13:25.32katossimy gpe-images compiled from .dev for akita don't get anything from the touchscreen, have any of you had any experiences like that?
13:26.24zeckekatossi: not me but I have not tried it recently
13:26.27zeckekatossi: debug it
13:26.37zeckekatossi: Topic: Touchscreen is not working
13:26.51zeckekatossi: Hypothesis: libts is not working correctly
13:27.28zeckekatossi: Now try to proof it ;)
13:27.31zeckekatossi: next hypothesis would be kernel is broken
13:27.38zeckekatossi: or X is broken
13:27.53zeckekatossi: or cosmic energy ;)
13:27.55katossizecke: grrr, could be anything basically
13:27.56katossi:)
13:28.36zeckeno
13:28.39katossiI'll debug it tomorrow, I was trying to get an image from oz354 but this downloading problems are pissing me off
13:28.46zecketouchscreen, quite easy, we have good tools for that
13:29.25zeckehrw|gone: do you have the sources for oz354?
13:29.25zeckekatossi: also oz354x would be the better rbanch :}
13:29.49katossiyes I do
13:30.25zeckekatossi: the ts utilities are awesome
13:30.37zeckekatossi: you can use ts_print_raw and see if the ts reports any samples
13:30.50zeckekatossi: ts_calibrate to calibrate and ts_test to draw
13:30.51zeckewonderful tools :)
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13:32.07katossithe problem was I didn't know how to chanche to a console from the "frozen" X session
13:32.55zecke*food*
13:33.06zeckessh login?
13:33.16zeckelater
13:33.57katossilater and thx a lot
13:34.21katossiis there any combinations of keys to go to a console?
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13:37.05koen|trainhi all
13:41.49CIA-903rw 07org.oe.dev * rdcac47e5... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/ (8 files): gtk-webcore: fix SRC_URI to reflect SF.net CVS changes
13:42.00swshi, can someone provide a NAND backup for poodle with pxa255 ?
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13:44.30koen|trainzecke: the 'handmade' section is more like a preface for the usermanual
13:44.40CIA-903koen 07org.oe.documentation * r45fbc11f... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: use some more <para>s
13:49.43koen|trainzecke: which chapter needs to get added before you announce the branch + manual to oe@?
13:53.29CIA-903koen 07org.oe.documentation * r4164c0ea... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: be consistent in the examples
13:54.01koen|train"78 responses in this database"
13:54.02koen|traincute
13:54.42likewisekoen|train: survey?
13:55.46koen|trainyes
14:00.42zeckere
14:01.17zeckekoen|train: well... we could announce in the spirit of
14:01.30zeckekoen|train: "OpenEmbedded Documentation Team is hiring, apply today"
14:01.53koen|train'donate 2 macbook pros and get some better docs'
14:02.44zeckekoen|train: one -> zecke, other -> al, you don't want one?
14:02.51koen|trainheh
14:02.55CIA-903koen 07org.oe.documentation * rab9d8333... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: be consistent in the examples
14:03.11koen|train~lart TextEdit.app
14:06.54zeckekoen|train: let me try wink first
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14:20.10koen|tra1nzecke: announcing it would mean more people know about it -> more contributions
14:20.17koen|tra1nor am I being naive again?
14:21.13zeckekoen|tra1n: no, not at all
14:21.27zeckekoen|tra1n: but there is no such as thing 0.01 human
14:21.44zeckeand adding these won't end up with 1.0 ;)
14:22.31koen|tra1nzecke: do you know the date when OE was founded/started?
14:22.42koen|tra1na timeline in the history sections would be nice
14:23.11zeckewhen was kergoth born?
14:23.16koen|tra1nheh
14:23.26koen|tra1n'79 iirc
14:24.00koen|tra1nlater all
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14:36.12swsmaybe someone know this problem too, i flashed my poodle a while ago with a 2.6 kernel, now i flashed a 2.4 kernel and the home partition isnt mounted
14:36.50swscoredump said the only solution he knows of is to do a nand restore
14:54.13likewiseall: is there a class that builds a local root filesystem (not an image) on my host? (for NFS export purposes)
14:54.29zeckelikewise: well :)
14:54.37zeckelikewise: look into deploy
14:54.49zeckewe used to have something called 'root' there
14:57.44likewiserootfs_ipk?
15:01.30zeckelikewise: yes?
15:01.38zeckelikewise: bitbake foo-image
15:01.54zeckelikewise: will use rootfs_ipk to populate a directory with ipackages
15:02.09zeckelikewise: and then package it up as jffs2 or tar.gz (depending on your options)
15:02.19zeckelikewise: but take a look in deploy
15:02.37zeckelikewise: you will see you have a ready to go nfsroot...
15:03.06likewisewell, not until I started a new build... my ep93xx hardware died yesterday - so I switched to ixp4xx today...
15:03.28zeckeyou still have the OE setup around don't you?
15:05.48likewisewell, just checked out again in a fresh dir, why?
15:06.00zeckelikewise: you could have looked at deploy ;)
15:06.32likewiseah yes :-) but I ran out of disk space. I´m now using rm_work (or work_rm) for that purpose.
15:11.07koenre
15:11.10zeckewb
15:11.13zeckekoen: wink is quite nice
15:11.48koenzecke: it's a bitch to build
15:11.53koenI tried adding it to OE last year
15:11.56koenand failed
15:12.08zeckekoen: wink has sourcecode?
15:14.08koenI think it does
15:14.27zeckeit hasn't -> hard to build ;)
15:14.46koenah, then it was some other screen->flash app
15:14.55zeckevnc2swf?
15:15.17zeckewe will announce the docu, once I have one screencast ready :)
15:26.05koenzecke-plays-pacman.swf
15:26.26zeckezecke-plays-build-qtopia
15:26.47koenand build opie apps against it?
15:27.09zeckeno
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15:29.20zeckekoen: who needs OE, Qtopia has a configure script :}
15:29.42zeckebut I understand the reasoning
15:30.15koenEXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-FUD --enable-opie-compat"
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15:37.15koenheh
15:37.17koen"It kind of surprised me that you couldn't find this out with a Google search, as the person who submitted the patch was from Google."
15:37.28koenthe usual fun on L-A-K
15:45.15zeckekoen: luckily I run GNOME, either I would feel bad that it currently builds a Qt3...
15:45.34zeckekoen: it is there for QtopiaDesktop, but that isn't gpl anyway...
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15:51.49ahonorei am using libc i have a number of problems with glibc compiling
15:52.05ahonoreunder x86 and epia
15:53.26CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra4604133... 10/packages/meta/task-qpe.bb: task-qpe: add the new opie environment apps qpphoto and xqt2
15:54.51koenmickey|zzZZzz: good morning
15:55.06koen*food*
15:55.42ahonorecan anyone get an x86 to build off the latest code?
15:57.13likewiseahonore: x86 host, right?
16:00.57ahonoreyes
16:01.00ahonorei686
16:01.21likewisewhat breaks?
16:01.39ahonoreglibc when it get to gas
16:01.52likewiseyou are compiling on the EPIA? that's a 586, are you sure the toolchain is not made for i686?
16:02.16ahonorewell i have done both
16:02.27ahonorei am on a i686
16:02.39zeckeuse ntpl  for glibc?
16:02.42likewiseI think most processors (Nehemiah) miss one i686 instruction.
16:02.52ahonorean di have tried to target i586 and i686 and the error is the same
16:02.56zeckeahonore: "glibc when it get to gas"???
16:03.06zeckeahonore: I think gas is part of binutils
16:03.08likewiseOK, good. then that won't be the issue I guess
16:03.34ahonorelet me see if i can get the error log
16:04.10zecke~pastebin
16:04.11ibotsomebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com
16:04.24ahonoreyea for some reason this actually happens while gcc 4.0 compiling
16:05.15likewiseall: my OE build stops after each package. I added INHERIT += "rm_work". If I run bitbake it builds the next, then stops. And so on.
16:05.30koeniirc only glibc 2.3.6 and beyond are gcc 4 safe
16:06.22zeckelikewise: then don't do that ;)
16:07.54katossiI'm getting an error compiling pcmciautils, I get: make: /usr/bin/ln: Command not found
16:08.06katossibut ln is in /bin/ln
16:08.17katossiwhere can I change that behavior?
16:08.23zeckekatossi: is touchscreen working yet?
16:08.50katossizecke: nops, trying to get a oz354x image, I'll get on that tomorrow
16:08.56ahonorei was wrong it is have an endian problem
16:09.19ahonorei though intel arch was big endin
16:09.39zeckekatossi: fix the touchscreen issue first
16:09.56zeckekatossi: and for pcmcia utils, look why it wants to use /usr/bin/ln?
16:09.58katossizecke: I don't have the devices here, they're in the uni
16:10.14zeckekatossi: ah well
16:11.22katossizecke: I don't know well how bitbake works, so I don't know where that ln linking is coming from, could it come from the bb files?
16:11.36koenprobably the pcmciautils makefile
16:11.41zeckekatossi: BitBake is not calling 'ln'
16:11.47zeckekatossi: it builds a software package
16:11.52zeckekatossi: in this case it is pcmciautils
16:12.17zeckekatossi: pcmciautils is build in a working directory, you should see the name of the working directory in the error message
16:12.30zeckekatossi: pcmciautils is likely using a buildsystem
16:12.36zeckekatossi: I assume it is autoconf/automake
16:12.47zeckekatossi: it will run ./configure and create a config.log file
16:12.52zeckekatossi: open that file and search for ln
16:13.09zeckekatossi: BRANCH: if you find /usr/bin/ln proceed
16:13.22zeckekatossi: if you don't search at another place
16:13.41katossiI see it:/usr/bin/ln -sf /home/colbedded/stuff/tmp/work/pcmciautils-013-r3/image/sbin/pccardctl /home/colbedded/stuff/tmp/work/pcmciautils-013-r3/image/sbin/lspcmcia
16:14.09katossiok I understand
16:14.22zeckekatossi: that is in 'image' it is not within the source code
16:14.40zeckekatossi: these files might have been created. Does pcmciautils fail on building or when ran on the device?
16:14.43katossiI'll take a look
16:14.54katossibuilding
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16:16.10KenJlimehey all
16:16.13zeckehey
16:16.22zeckekatossi: so we might have two problems ;)
16:16.38zeckekatossi: installed files (on the target device) might point to the wrong binary
16:16.43zeckekatossi: and building fails ;)
16:18.03zeckeokay /bin/ln is required by the FHS...
16:18.58zecke"ERROR: Building of Qtopia has failed"
16:19.07zeckeljp: which script do I run nowß
16:21.49katossizecke: the configure log is empty, what does that mean? no configure was taken place or what?
16:22.33zeckekatossi: dunno :)
16:22.39zeckekatossi: fallback grepping for ln ;)
16:22.56zeckeif it hardcodes the path to ln it should use /bin/ln :}
16:23.43katossiwhat are the run.do* files?
16:23.59zecke"Suggest your ARM "guru" reads up the ARM ARM description of the "tst"
16:24.02zeckeinstruction and re-evaluates his conclusions."
16:24.04zeckelol
16:24.13zeckekatossi: they are created by bitbake and executed
16:24.27zeckekatossi: they are in a 'temp' directory...
16:24.37zeckekatossi: go to the source *luke*
16:25.30katossi:)
16:25.45katossiin tmp/work ?
16:25.46zeckekatossi: there can be only two more directories, one is the source
16:25.58zeckekatossi: BitBake can execute python and shell
16:26.13zeckekatossi: for executing (on patch,configure,compile,install)
16:26.25zeckekatossi: it create a shell script and executes the shell function
16:26.45zeckekatossi: these are saved in 'tem' and labeled run.do_TASKNAME.BLABLA
16:27.05zeckekatossi: it can save the logs in log.do_TASKNAME.BLABLA (if you ask it to)
16:27.15katossiI have located the run.do_configure
16:27.17zeckekatossi: but you want to look into the source
16:27.23zeckekatossi: leave 'temp'
16:27.28katossiok
16:27.29zeckekatossi: you are a CS student?
16:27.37katossiI am
16:27.46katossiI feel embarrased now
16:28.00zecke:}
16:28.05zeckethis was not my intention
16:28.19katossiI understand perfectly what you said but I could not say in english what I wanted
16:28.20katossisorry
16:28.50zeckekatossi: in that work/.../pcmciautils-?-? dir, you will have the source!
16:29.06zeckekatossi: a 'temp' directory and other directroies for packaging
16:29.23katossiI'm there
16:29.24zeckekatossi: go to the source directory (the one with the many *.c *.h files)
16:29.37zeckenow grep for /usr/bin/ln
16:29.55zeckeor look into config.log (I'm only guessing that it is autotools based)
16:30.25katossiI found it in makefile: SYMLINK = /usr/bin/ln -sf
16:31.31zeckekatossi: now is that Makefile generated? (probably not)
16:31.42katossiI think not
16:31.55zeckekatossi: take a breath ;)
16:32.09zeckekatossi: quilt new katossi-fhs-ln.patch
16:32.17zeckekatossi: quilt edit makefile
16:32.28zeckekoen: remove the /usr and exit
16:32.33zeckekatossi: remove the /usr and exit
16:32.34zeckekatossi: quilt refresh
16:32.45zeckeyou have patched your first package (for OE at least)
16:34.30katossithx a lot, absolutely instructive lesson :9
16:34.42zeckekatossi: you want to leave early?
16:34.50katossinops
16:34.58zeckekatossi: have found more sources of /usr/bin/ln ?
16:35.06katossinops
16:35.11katossithat was the only place
16:35.45zeckevim patches/katossi-fhs-ln.patch
16:35.52katossibut I'm having problems with quilt edit
16:35.52zeckewrite some lines why this patch is necessary
16:36.05zeckekatossi: do you know vi?
16:36.11katossiyes
16:36.16KenJlimezecke: any chance of adding SuperH as hardware in bugzilla
16:36.16katossiit's the console
16:36.23katossiI'm working in a ssh session
16:36.42katossiand vi it's unusable for some reason
16:36.58zeckeKenJlime: ask koen, he is an admin for bugzilla
16:39.23KenJlimekoen: :D wake up man
16:40.33zeckekatossi: another editor is working?
16:40.41zeckekatossi: you can set EDITOR=my-edit
16:41.35katossiok cool, nano works fine here
16:42.07ahonoreis BBversion 1.4.3 stable?
16:42.30zeckeahonore: it had not be proofen yet
16:42.37zeckeahonore: have you found an error?
16:43.47ahonorei am having major problems building glibc
16:43.59zeckeahonore: and you suspect bitbake?
16:44.31zeckeahonore: until now I have not been able to see a pattern in  your 'strategy'
16:44.48katossizecke: it worked!!!! awesome. What about the patch, should I post it to the bugtracker?
16:45.06katossiquilt rules
16:45.10zeckekatossi: yes, but you can edit the bb file as well to apply it :)
16:45.14zeckekatossi: it does!
16:45.24zeckekatossi: anyway copy the file to a save place ;)
16:45.30katossigonna get some food, thx again
16:45.42zeckekatossi: which distro is that anyway?
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16:46.07katossidebian I think, it's the blade in the uni
16:46.08ahonoreit has to do with the downloading of packages and moving them to the work dir and then not being able to fidn what it download
16:47.06zeckeahonore: I'm still not able to get an impression on what you are doing or what the error is...
16:47.08ahonoreand the files don't seem to be untar/ziped into the dirs either
16:47.20zeckethe files == ?
16:47.36ahonoreImporting patch /home/bitbake/pvr/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc-cvs/arm-longlong.patch (stored as arm-longlong.patch)
16:47.37ahonoreApplying patch arm-longlong.patch
16:47.37ahonorecan't find file to patch at input line 3
16:48.21zeckeahonore: does this file exist?
16:49.53ahonoreyes
16:50.10zeckeare you out of space?
16:50.22zeckeahonore: this is executing quilt import (not bitbake)
16:51.17ahonorehmm, since this is an x86 build why would i need an arm patch?
16:51.49zeckeassume the following
16:52.11zeckeyou have 6 architectures each with multiple configurations
16:52.16koenzecke: everybody keeps that I'm a bugzilla admin, but I am not  
16:52.26zeckeassume the 'patch' tree it spawns
16:52.40zeckeahonore: how assume you want to add a patch that applies to all platforms
16:53.00koens/keeps/ keeps saying/
16:53.06zeckeahonore: either everything goes well, or you end up having to make this patch work on ...
16:53.13KenJlime:D
16:53.15KenJlimehaha
16:53.22KenJlimekoen: whos the admin then?
16:53.30zeckekoen: greg said he added you
16:53.33koenzecke: I suspect ggilbert added the bits to my other userid
16:53.33zeckemickey|zzZZzz: ping!
16:53.46zeckekoen: to you evil side?
16:53.46mickeylpöng
16:53.49zeckemickeyl: hey
16:53.54zeckemickeyl: are you a bugzilla admin?
16:54.17mickeylpossible. what's your concern?
16:54.18ggilbertwhich is the correct userid
16:54.27koenggilbert: koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl
16:54.28zeckeahonore: tell me, why is quilt import failing?
16:54.43ggilbertoff the top of my head, I think mickey, one of the koen's, pb, and I are admins
16:54.44KenJlimemickeyl: I any possibility to add "SuperH" as a hardware?
16:54.45zeckeahonore: either the patch does not exist, or your disk is full, or you use reiserfs
16:54.52ggilbertbut I'm going to fix up koen
16:54.59mickeyli don't think we have Hardware at all yet
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16:55.37KenJlimemickeyl: on the bugzilla i mean
16:55.38mickeylwe have three products
16:55.40mickeyland then product versions
16:55.41zeckemickeyl: we have ARM ;)
16:55.46mickeylwhere do we have arM?
16:55.46emteKenJlime, it would be a platform not hardware
16:55.53KenJlimeAh, platform then :D
16:56.30mickeylah
16:56.35mickeyl~lart bugzilla
16:56.40mickeyli want mantis back :/
16:56.53mickeyllike that? or a different spelling?
16:57.03KenJlimelike that
16:57.17emtemickeyl, are you adding the other ones while your at it?
16:57.24mickeylwhich ones?
16:57.31emteor did koen do taht yesterday?
16:57.40mickeylEdit field value...  Sortkey  Action  
16:57.41mickeylAll  100  Delete  
16:57.41mickeylARM  200  Delete  
16:57.41mickeylMIPS  300  Delete  
16:57.41mickeylMacintosh  400  Delete  
16:57.41mickeylPC  500  Delete  
16:57.43emtethe ipaq and z families
16:57.43mickeylSun  600  Delete  
16:57.45mickeylSuperH  650  Delete  
16:57.47mickeylOther  700  (Default value)  
16:57.49mickeylthat's what we have atm.
16:57.57mickeyldo we really need the individual machines??
16:58.04KenJlimeno please
16:58.11emtenot individual, just series i was thinking
16:58.35emtemakes filetering on family/series easier when looking for bugs
16:59.22emtesince you would use arm for every ipaq and zaurus made
16:59.52mickeylhmm
16:59.56mickeylwe need to give that a bit more thought
17:00.23koenehm
17:00.28emtedistro isnt really valid as may things are not dtable specific
17:00.32koen18:57 < mickeyl> All  100  Delete  
17:00.32koen18:57 < mickeyl> ARM  200  Delete  
17:00.32koen18:57 < mickeyl> MIPS  300  Delete  
17:00.32koen18:57 < mickeyl> Macintosh  400  Delete  
17:00.32koen18:57 < mickeyl> PC  500  Delete  
17:00.34emtestable*
17:00.44koenthat needs some cleaning
17:00.52koen'macintosh' isn't an arch
17:00.52ggilbertkoen: fixed. I had assumed the hh.o account was the right one :p
17:00.55mickeylheh
17:01.05mickeylkoen: well, it's a build arch
17:01.08mickeylisn't it? ;)
17:01.14koenwhich mac?
17:01.18emtewhich PC
17:01.22koenthe 68k, the powerpc(s) or the intel?
17:01.24emtesame type of thing
17:01.29mickeylyeah, perhaps better IntelOSX
17:01.34mickeylPPCOSX
17:01.38mickeylIntelWindows
17:01.41mickeylPPCWindows
17:01.42mickeyl?
17:02.34koenggilbert: I thought I didn't get bugzilla, but I discovered the 'permissions' summary this week :)
17:02.57ggilbertI updated the utwente account now
17:03.26emtePC would need to be changed to AMD, AMD64, IA32, IA64 etc which comes back to my suggestion for series/families again
17:03.47ggilbertkoen: not sure how you've been using it all this time. You didn't have any permissions :p
17:04.11koenggilbert: I think I tried the 'rename' feature in bugzilla
17:04.36koenggilbert: and I sent you a mail asking to transfer the perms, which iirc you did
17:07.29CIA-903justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r4b5a91e9... 10/packages/meta/task-e-x11.bb: task-e-x11: fix DEPENDS and RDEPENDS
17:09.02zeckeahonore: you around?
17:09.11ahonoreyea
17:11.53koenmickeyl: did you get your phone yet?
17:14.33ahonoredoes anyone have a buildroot of an x86 config that works
17:15.09mickeylkoen: no.
17:15.10mickeyl:/
17:15.44mickeylwaiting hurts
17:16.52koenFive Stages of Acquisition: infatuation, justification, appropriation, obsession, and resale.
17:17.02mickeylhehe
17:17.14zeckeahonore: why can't it write the file?
17:17.35mickeylhmm
17:17.48mickeylthere are sites that claim that fltk has a fb-backend
17:17.54mickeylthat's false
17:20.36koenthat can't be
17:20.42koeneverything on the internet is true
17:20.52mickeylthat's what i thought as well
17:25.41koenhmmm
17:25.43koenhttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/maemo/.message/25d78
17:25.57koenany volunteers to add those to OE?
17:26.24koenlarge parts of telepathy are already in, so we could roll our own IT2006 release ;)
17:26.32KenJlimemickeyl: thx for adding SuperH
17:26.50mickeylkoen: might send a mail to oe@ and request that. there are folks among the subscribers who really want to see that happen
17:27.40mickeylKenJlime: np
17:27.42zeckekoen: hehe, using EABI?
17:28.16koenzecke: I won't comment on that ;)
17:28.45koenI'm going to try generating site files in sb for EABI
17:29.05zeckekoen: Isn't sb asking your ipaq to run the tests?
17:29.26koenzecke: only with sbrsh, otherwise it'll use qemu
17:30.24ahonorei have no idea this is harder than doing it by hand
17:31.05mickeylone of these days I need to test a pxaXrom release
17:31.15mickeyldo they still need fs repartitioning?
17:31.16zeckeahonore: you have not answered any question, it might be wise to do it by hand or buildroot
17:32.28ahonorei am not sure why it won't copy the file i did a manual bitbake on the specific file and it failed on something totally different
17:32.47zeckeahonore: I won't repeat myself, It is not bitbake copying that file
17:32.55koenmickeyl: yes, unless you dig twm
17:32.55zeckeahonore: it is a quilt import, isn't it?
17:33.12mickeylkoen: *cough* no, they're not still using that? i thought they were shipping mb
17:33.13zeckeahonore: is your disk full?
17:33.21zeckeanyway read or leave it...
17:33.26ahonoreas far as i know, but i know zero about quilt
17:33.28koenmickeyl: if you don't repartition you end up with twm
17:33.35mickeylmmh
17:33.36ahonoreno my disk ahs lots of space
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17:35.24ahonorei am going to remove the tmp dir and tart the build over
17:35.59zeckeahonore: a rule of thumb: If you ask for help, try to express your issue clearly, and read responses
17:36.20zeckeahonore: until now I'm not even close to have enough samples to even figure out what you are trying
17:36.31koenzecke: thumb, thumb2 or thumb2EE?
17:36.42zeckeahonore: "x86, gas, glibc, fail, quilt, bitbake, all files" <-not useful information
17:37.09ahonoreyea i know sorry, i am trying to get a consisit error
17:37.09CIA-903dirk 07org.oe.oz354x * rba8f1092... 10/conf/machine/tosa-2.6.conf: machine/tosa-2.6.conf: add missing BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS += "wlan-ng-modules"
17:37.11zeckekoen: for EABI?
17:37.21ahonoreand then i am going to e-mail what i am doing
17:37.26koenzecke: you said rule of thumb ;)
17:37.35zeckeah
17:37.37ahonorei mean explain (i need sleep)
17:37.47zeckeahonore: hehe sleep well ;)
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17:41.08mickeylmother day is giving me headaches
17:41.24mickeyltoo much conversation
17:41.32ahonoreok this is what i have done
17:41.59ahonore1. the build error in glibc i had before were 2.3.2 which is not gcc compat
17:42.15ahonoreto i removed them from the oe/packages/glibc dir
17:42.39zeckeremoved oe/packages/glibc? why did you do that?
17:42.44ahonorei then download glibc-2.4.tar.gz and placed that in sources
17:42.50zeckedo you rob banks at random as well? ;)
17:43.37ahonorebasically the problem i am having now is that it will not patch the 2.4 version og glibc and the error log is empty
17:44.05zeckeahonore: well you have removed a complete directory?
17:44.17ahonorenot the hole dir :) just the ../packages/glibc/glibc 2.3.2 stuff
17:44.47zeckeahonore: PREFERRED_VERSION can do the same trick
17:45.09zeckeahonore: use bitbake -DDD to have more output
17:45.21zeckeahonore: but as I think it is a issue with quilt
17:47.46ahonore<PROTECTED>
17:47.46ahonore+ pnum=1
17:47.46ahonore+ name=arm-memcpy.patch
17:47.46ahonore+ patch=/home/bitbake/pvr/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc-2.4/arm-memcpy.patch
17:47.46ahonore+ mkdir -p patches
17:47.47ahonore+ quilt upgrade
17:47.52ahonoreand i know you are right
17:48.27ahonorequilt must be seg faulting or something
17:48.39zeckefind / -name '.pc' ;)
17:50.39ahonorewhat is the hidden .pc file
17:50.48zeckeahonore: you might have a .pc directory (from quilt) in your tree...
17:50.55zeckeahonore: quilt stores the original files there
17:51.09zeckeahonore: when you do quilt OP it searches for a '.pc' directory...
17:51.50ahonoreis there any documentation on this stuff?
17:52.39zeckeahonore: quilt, the quilt manual
17:52.44zeckeahonore: what is find giving?
17:54.27ahonoreit didn't find any
17:55.19ahonorei removed my entire work directory jsut to build the glibc bb
17:55.35ahonoreso it is the only file in tmp/work
17:55.39ahonorewell dir
17:55.42zeckeahonore: you have lost me again...
17:56.33ahonorethe tmp directy under build
17:57.29zeckefind / -name .pc
17:57.36ahonorewhen i do bitbake task-bootstrap
17:57.49zeckethat is getting too chaotic...
17:58.11ahonorei removed the entire tmp dir
17:58.23zeckeahonore: sorry, enough time wasted
17:58.29ahonoreand ran bitbake ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.4.bb
17:58.54ahonoreso i am saying its the only file i am trying to build
17:59.22zeckeahonore: that doesn't make any sense at all...
17:59.33zeckeahonore: either you rand task-bootstrap or built a file directly...
17:59.59ahonorei ran task-bootstrap first
18:00.13ahonoreit built files and errored on glibc
18:00.14zeckeahonore: well, remember the rule of thumb
18:00.32ahonoreand i did this many times changing my config many times
18:00.43zeckeahonore: how does this information relate to the log you have pasted above?
18:00.53ahonorethen i decided to remove the tmp dir
18:00.54zeckeanyway I need to get things done now
18:01.03ahonoreand start over whith just building that single file
18:01.51ahonoreit is the log information of the configure of glibc-2.4 patch failure
18:02.05ahonoreand the last line i pasted is the last line of the file
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18:02.56ahonoreso i know it is quilt that is causing the problem i don't know anything about quilt so i am going back to compiling by hand
18:03.18zeckeahonore: bitbake -DDD -b /bla/bla/.../glibc_2.4.bb -cclean -f
18:03.22zeckeahonore: bitbake -DDD -b /bla/bla/.../glibc_2.4.bb -cpatch -f
18:03.55zeckeahonore: and you might have deleted one file too many?
18:05.10ahonoresame error
18:05.34zeckeahonore: sure, deterministic. wonderful ;)
18:05.49zeckeahonore: read the errror, I don't know what you have deleted... moved or done
18:06.21ahonorei have done a lot :) with no luck
18:06.32ahonorebut after i do something i restore it back
18:06.56ahonorei have been doing this since yesterday
18:07.28ahonorechanging my config the file in oe/packeges/glibs
18:07.34zeckewill be back in two hours
18:07.36ahonoreso i am pretty sure it is quilt
18:07.43ahonorethanks for the help
18:07.51zeckeyou are welcome
18:07.52ahonorebut i think i am going to give up :)
18:08.53KenJlimeahonore: with the risk of permanent brain damage, whats your problem?
18:09.05KenJlimeand say it in the short short version
18:11.50gremlin[it]someone know if exist some site or other kind of resource about Intex XScale 80219 processor support ?
18:12.02gremlin[it]s/Intex/Intel/
18:17.48KenJlimeCurrently at 303MB, anyone know what bitbake world needs in MB (built packages not sources)
18:18.53Zero_ChaosKenJlime: what do I have to change to make it delete sources when it's done? :-)
18:19.27KenJlimeZero_Chaos: no idea if theres a bitbake parameter for that, but just rm your ~/sources/*
18:20.02Zero_ChaosKenJlime: that is icky though... I was hoping there was a way to remove sources after successful build and transfer to staging....
18:20.06Zero_Chaos:-(
18:21.00KenJlimeZero_Chaos: probobly a parameter for it, just cannot check atm
18:21.13Zero_ChaosKenJlime: no prob, just thought you might know
18:22.08JustinPdon't delete sources
18:22.28JustinPwork you can remove (there is a bbclass for this) but sources is not good to delete
18:22.37JustinPKenJlime: many gigabytes
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18:23.11KenJlimeJustinP: thx
18:23.22koenremoving sources is a bit anti-social bandwidth-wise
18:23.23CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * rdf5aad55... 10/packages/gstreamer/ (gst-plugins-base_0.10.7.bb gstreamer_0.10.6.bb): update gstreamer and base plugin set
18:23.27CIA-903koen 07org.oe.dev * re7de228d... 10/packages/binutils/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:23.27CIA-9binutils(-cross): add 2.17.50.0.1 snapshot
18:23.27CIA-9from the changelog:
18:23.28CIA-91. Update from binutils 2006 0427.
18:23.28CIA-92. Fix an objcopy regression (PR 2593).
18:23.28Zero_ChaosJustinP: how do I delete work?
18:23.30CIA-93. Reduce ar memory usage (PR 2467).
18:23.32CIA-94. Allow application specific ELF sections (PR 2537).
18:23.37JustinPKenJlime: I only build certain images, not world, and it still takes 5-6GB
18:23.39Zero_Chaoskoen: my fault, work is what I meant
18:24.10JustinPZero_Chaos: inherit rm_work in your local.conf
18:24.23Zero_Chaosjust add that line?
18:24.30KenJlimeJustinP: eek, means I have a long way to go then. Shouldnt take that long on a 3Ghz, but its alot of packages.
18:24.42Zero_ChaosJustinP: as it only removes the work on successful builds, right?
18:25.02JustinPZero_Chaos: AFAIK....never used it myself
18:25.13Zero_ChaosJustinP: well in that case, one way to find out.
18:25.16JustinPKenJlime: building world isn't something you should normally be doing....
18:26.11KenJlimeJustinP: just doing it to get a sense of what builds and what doesnt. but should perhaps change it and do one letter at a time
18:26.28JustinPKenJlime: ah
18:27.35CoreDump|home~lart opie
18:29.46KenJlime~lart bitbake world
18:30.06Zero_ChaosLoL
18:30.09Zero_Chaosthat was harsh
18:30.14Zero_Chaosibot: botsnack
18:30.14ibotthanks, Zero_Chaos
18:30.32KenJlime:)
18:34.06JustinPKenJlime: what's the problem?
18:34.12JustinPKenJlime: perhaps you want -k?
18:37.45KenJlimeJustinP: im doing that atm
18:37.52KenJlimejust taking time :D thats my main concern
18:39.54JustinPpfff
18:39.58JustinPyou can't lart it for that
18:40.19JustinPcompiling takes time
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18:44.40KenJlime~lart apologizes
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18:52.17zeckekoen: what is the default preference
18:53.52koen-1
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19:11.13koenCoreDump|home: zaurusd has poodle support nowadays?
19:12.33CoreDump|homenot really, I've pushed an empty config to makeit shut up on boot about an "unknon machine" ;)
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20:32.34CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r74d23aeb... 10/packages/c-ares/ (c-ares_1.1.0.bb c-ares_1.3.0.bb): c-ares: upgrade to 1.3.0, add do_stage
20:32.39CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r93569af5... 10/packages/libevent/libevent_1.1a.bb:
20:32.39CIA-9add libevent 1.1.a
20:32.39CIA-9The libevent API provides a mechanism to execute a callback function when a specific event occurs on a file descriptor or
20:32.39CIA-9after a timeout has been reached. Furthermore, libevent also support callbacks due to signals or regular timeouts.
20:32.43CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r513336c6... 10/packages/libarena/libarena_0.2.bb: add libarena, a custom memory allocator interface and implementation.
20:32.47CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r34a9205f... 10/packages/libarena/libarena_0.2.bb: libarena: fix staging
20:32.51CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r60f0b559... 10/packages/python/ (python-gammu_0.12.bb python-gammu_0.13.bb): python-gammu: upgrade to 0.13
20:32.55CIA-903mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r551b99b2... 10/packages/libevnet/ (files/stdargs.patch libevnet_0.3.1.bb): add libevnet, libevnet provides a suite of interfaces, all built around libevent, useful to network daemons.
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20:42.32zeckehmm
20:42.37zeckeNOTE: Error on parsing: /home/zecke/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gpe-sketchbook/gpe-sketchbook_0.2.8.bb:[Errno 2] No such file or directory
20:42.40zeckehmm
20:42.58koenreturn of the cache?
20:43.03zeckeno bittest
20:43.06zeckeafter lyx failed :}
20:43.27zeckemickey|dinner: lyx 1.4.1 is not fetchable
20:43.54zeckeI have no idea how this can happend :}
20:44.06zeckekoen: I have fixed the grammar of the usermanual ;)
20:44.10zecke(xml grammar)
20:44.16koen*cough*
20:44.29koenI know I should have installed docbook on my powerbook
20:44.56koenany recomendations for a docbook editor?
20:45.10zeckekoen: it is </para> not <para> you moron!
20:45.13zeckekoen: vim?
20:45.43koenI already use vim :)
20:45.54koenor textedit for utf8 stuff
20:49.05zeckehmm how can this happen with lyx :}
20:49.25zeckekoen: half of this GPE crap is not fetchable
20:49.34zeckekoen: and other would claim the rest is not usable :)
20:49.43KenJlimelol
20:49.59zeckejust kidding
20:50.07njshttp://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.xaraya.devel/12637 may be of interest
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20:53.35zeckenjs: thanks
20:53.43zeckenjs: I'm pretty confident rosterify will work
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20:57.12zeckekoen: I'm recording now "setting up OE to build OpenZaurus"
21:00.40koenaha
21:00.56koenI have found out whu thunerbird 1.5 feels different from 1.0
21:01.14koen1.5 has the dutch translation activated
21:01.27CoreDump|home=D
21:03.00JustinPhrw|gone: e-image and e-image-core built fine for me from scratch (fixed a DEPENDS issue in task-e-x11)
21:03.25zeckelol
21:03.44zeckemickey|dinner: your lyx really broke bitttest, I have no clue how it did
21:09.23zeckekoen: I will patch gcc before doing the screen cast
21:13.15likewiseall: why does glib depend on glib-native?
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21:23.18zeckepb__: ping
21:25.22likewiseOE needs an Eclipse plug-in.
21:25.25likewise:-)
21:25.52zeckewe had no SoC entry for that
21:25.59Stephmwlikewise, sounds fab
21:26.05Stephmwlikewise, when are you getting started?
21:26.21likewiseafter I finish the other projects :-)
21:28.24likewisezecke: but have you guys brainstormed over any GUI ideas on top of OE?
21:29.58zeckelikewise: little ;)
21:30.11zeckelikewise: we had a OE Commander (pyqt based)
21:30.37zeckebasicly we would like to begin with browsing the data
21:30.52likewiseyes, browsing in different perspectives.
21:31.01likewisefor example: examine dependency tree
21:31.04zeckeright "Task orientated"
21:31.09likewiseyep
21:31.10zeckeand Tag orientated
21:31.13zeckeand per BB file
21:31.31likewiseEclipse already has its interface like that (one "perspective" for each task)
21:49.20zeckepb__: ping, ping, ping ;)
21:49.35zeckepb__: should we use -isystem to point to our staging_incdir?
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21:57.41KenJlimezecke: if I quit bitbake ..world. it shouldnt recompile not changed binaries right?
21:57.48koenzecke: ah cool, any ETA on the patching?
21:58.38KenJlimejust making sure so I dont need to restart this thing in the morning
21:59.36zeckekoen: which patching
21:59.45zeckeKenJlime: it should stick to the stamps
22:00.13KenJlimezecke: goodie
22:00.35zeckekoen: I'm currently patching gcc
22:00.39koen23:09 < zecke> koen: I will patch gcc before doing the screen cast
22:00.42koenyes, that one
22:00.49zeckekoen: and we should try -isystem
22:00.56zeckekoen: this avoids the can of wamrs we have
22:01.13zeckekoen: my C string manipulation skills are not too good :}
22:01.31koen-isystem ?
22:02.02zeckekoen: currently we add -I${STAGING_INCDIR} in CFLAGS
22:02.21zeckekoen: with Opie and X we had the issue that instead of including the 'new' files
22:02.31zeckekoen: it included the files from the staging area
22:07.48koen'new' files?
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22:08.22koenyou mean libfoo 3.2 ppicked up headers from libfoo 3.1?
22:09.39zeckeyes
22:09.58zeckeXComposite.h is not included from the package in work but from staging
22:10.04zecke-isystem should avoid this
22:11.17koena package managed staging would help as well ;)
22:11.37zeckeit could
22:11.43koenbut yeah, having stuff like -isystem would be neat
22:11.51zeckewe should try it :}
22:13.53koenI'd like to get TheMasterMind1's vmware stuff working
22:20.01zeckeautomatically generating vmware player images?
22:20.32koenyes
22:20.39koenit should be in bugzilla
22:20.44zeckeyeah that would be nice
22:21.56zeckeah
22:30.26KenJlimenite
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22:52.56zeckekoen: argh {} doesn't work in my xephyr
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23:01.13likewiseHow does bitbake choose a package version if PREFERRED_VERSION is not set? Highest number (C locale)?
23:03.27zeckelikewise: more than c locale...
23:03.31zeckelike debian :}
23:03.55likewisezecke: but the selection algo is built-in bb?
23:04.20zeckelikewise: yes
23:04.25likewisezecke: thanks.
23:04.49likewiseFor normal purpose, I may assume it picks the "highest" version.
23:05.00likewiseunless a dependency tells otherwise.
23:06.41zeckelikewise: this would be ignored for now :}
23:07.13likewisezecke: version dependencies are ignored? So highest version is selected?
23:07.51zeckeyes
23:07.59zeckeunless PREFERRED_VERSION is specified globally
23:08.13zeckelikewise: but with some luck koen can change this in the GSoC
23:08.51likewisezecke: Well, me asking is not a reason to change things :-)
23:09.09likewisezecke: I just want to learn how things work under the hood here.
23:09.52katossixstroke cannot be compiled in oz354x because the tarball downloaded is actually a html file
23:10.15zeckelikewise: bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py
23:10.31zeckelikewise: vercmp will compare two version strings and BitBake will use the higher version
23:10.34zeckekoen: oh :}
23:10.41zeckekatossi: oh :}
23:10.55zeckekatossi: file a bug, xstroke.org is offline and now likely to be parked ...
23:11.09katossiok
23:11.40zeckekatossi: instead of a 404 they give you an advertising site :}
23:11.51katossidamn
23:12.28katossibut, if it is a temporary problem maybe reporting the bug is worthless
23:12.47katossiI will do it anyway
23:13.39likewisegood nite all, thanks for the help all
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23:14.22zeckekatossi: no, Carl Worth is likely to have no interest in xstroke anymore
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23:15.15katossithen maybe we should get rid of it, or get a copy from somewhere else
23:16.08zeckeright ;)
23:16.10katossiif I want to finish my gpe-image and this xstroke problem is on the way, what can I do?
23:16.23katossiis there any way to skip it?
23:16.26zeckekatossi: use a xstroke snapshot from ewi or familiar
23:16.32zecke(psst use Opie) ;)
23:16.48zeckekatossi: http://familiar.handhelds.org/source/v0.8.4-rc2/sources/
23:16.58zeckekatossi: use BitBake from the stable trunk
23:17.01katossiopie is cool I know, but this images are used basically to run apps in java, and they need gtk
23:17.18zeckekatossi: and add this to the CVS_TARBALL_STASH line in local.conf
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23:24.44katossitime to go to bed
23:25.20katossizecke: thx for all the tips today, see ya
23:26.39zeckeyou are welcome
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23:54.20CIA-9subversion-1.3.1: activate patch to support apr-util 0.9.12
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