| 00:01.31 | raduga | btw, if you want to be an official tester, send mail to openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
| 00:02.00 | raduga | but the images are in: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/oz3.5.4-test-images/test5/ |
| 00:02.42 | patientfox | i sent an email to test354 or something.... it was an addy hrw put in a post on the 3.5.4 thread... i guess ill try the other one too |
| 00:02.42 | raduga | not sure if its up to 2.6 kernel yet (maybe!) |
| 00:03.20 | raduga | 3.5.4.1 will probably have 2.6 updates; but that wont be out for awhile |
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| 00:05.50 | patientfox | thank you |
| 00:08.08 | patientfox | raduga do you know if the oz/opie port of gaim has made it into the test feed? |
| 00:09.04 | patientfox | ahhh yes here it is |
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| 00:19.00 | patientfox | ok wish me luck on flashing... |
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| 01:08.44 | NA|Zzz | Is the kernel in .dev known to be broken? |
| 01:24.16 | JustinP | NA|Zzz: which device and kernel? there are many kernels? |
| 01:25.32 | NA|Zzz | JustinP: Yeah.. should've specified that.. it's too early :) borzoi (3100), kernel 2.6.15 |
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| 01:26.34 | JustinP | ummm...not that I know of...IIRC it should build |
| 01:27.18 | NA|Zzz | It builds.. I'm just getting oopses on the console relating to APM |
| 01:27.25 | NA|Zzz | Let me boot it again.. |
| 01:29.10 | decca_work | wow ;D NA|Zzz can type while sleeping !! |
| 01:29.39 | NA|Zzz | decca_work: Yeah, I call it work :) |
| 01:29.44 | NA|Zzz | Weird... it's booting this time |
| 01:29.45 | decca_work | lol |
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| 01:43.16 | njs | koen: ping |
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| 01:57.29 | JustinP | njs: I feel I can point people to that e-mail :-) |
| 01:58.30 | njs | JustinP: oh, cool :-) |
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| 03:13.47 | leoncamel | hi, folks. is the any soft float toolchain for OE ? |
| 03:17.31 | NAbyss | I believe soft floats are used on targets requiring it.. |
| 03:26.50 | leoncamel | NAbyss, what do you mean ? |
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| 03:32.23 | emte | not all cpu have floating point registers |
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| 03:32.28 | emte | so they need soft float |
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| 03:34.51 | leoncamel | ok. and what is VFP ? |
| 03:35.40 | leoncamel | emte, and how does the linux kernel float emulator working ? |
| 04:04.37 | jnc | leoncamel: i am guessing VFP means virtual floating point? |
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| 05:02.01 | jnc | NAbyss: http://oe.pastebin.com/577917 |
| 05:02.23 | jnc | my notes on the cxx00 keyboard configuration possibilities |
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| 05:03.28 | jnc | NAbyss: it's quite beautiful ;) |
| 05:03.40 | NAbyss | Bloody hell.. |
| 05:05.56 | NAbyss | Looks rather complete |
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| 05:12.43 | jnc | NAbyss: it's genius if you're "a westerner" (american) |
| 05:13.10 | jnc | i preserve places for all sorts of english keys, foregoing the non-english ones =) |
| 05:15.19 | jnc | like i even manage to squeeze in numlock and crap |
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| 05:25.34 | NAbyss | Yep :) |
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| 05:29.00 | jnc | scroll lock was needed because of SysRq |
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| 05:31.29 | jnc | who is Jenna |
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| 05:35.28 | kergoth | jnc: ? |
| 05:35.41 | jnc | keep popping in/out of channel |
| 05:35.45 | jnc | i am curious about that |
| 05:35.58 | kergoth | hundreds of people go in and out of channels all day |
| 05:36.04 | kergoth | you expect us to know them all? |
| 05:36.05 | kergoth | who cares? |
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| 05:52.12 | emte | :P |
| 05:52.40 | jnc | *laugh* |
| 05:52.56 | jnc | johnX: it used to be that everyone did, in like 1992 |
| 05:53.05 | emte | i do |
| 05:53.46 | emte | every one is the pervert fat guy named bubba sitting in jail trying to pick up little kids, selling viagra, and is ebay's #1 seller |
| 05:54.25 | johnX | ebay's *only* real seller |
| 05:54.43 | emte | lol |
| 05:54.53 | jnc | ...is selling haunted pieces of french toast in the likeness of jesus |
| 05:55.12 | emte | lol |
| 05:55.28 | johnX | the whole thing just consists of him laundering money through thousands of fake ebay accounts, and every so often ripping people off who believe in the reseller ratings |
| 05:55.31 | jnc | hey are any of you capable of building openzaurus SharpROM kernels? |
| 05:55.59 | emte | anyone who has OE installed can |
| 05:56.10 | jnc | i mean, one that will work with SharpROM |
| 05:56.11 | emte | just follow the instructions |
| 05:56.21 | jnc | i'm trying to verify a bug |
| 05:56.32 | jnc | my C3000 does not resume/suspend properly |
| 05:56.36 | emte | anyone who has OE installed can just follow the instructions the Sharp instructions are there |
| 05:56.40 | jnc | RP's C3000 does resume/suspend properly |
| 05:56.47 | jnc | so we're like, derr.. what's going on |
| 05:56.54 | jnc | oh |
| 05:57.09 | jnc | emte: i have amd64 build host, going to need ia32 or someone else to do it for me :( |
| 05:57.32 | emte | why not just ask RP hof his image? |
| 05:57.38 | emte | for* |
| 05:57.44 | jnc | his SharpROM image? |
| 05:57.53 | jnc | yea, he's kind of short on time |
| 05:57.57 | emte | it would verify where the problem is |
| 05:58.00 | jnc | oh |
| 05:58.13 | emte | eitehr its image based or hardware |
| 05:58.17 | jnc | i should mention that SharpROM appears to suspend/resume fine on my hardware |
| 05:58.25 | jnc | so like i'm trying to figure out what the heck is going on |
| 05:58.38 | jnc | i would hate to think that the reason it works is the closed-source SD module |
| 05:58.40 | jnc | holy crap |
| 05:58.43 | jnc | the SD module! |
| 05:58.57 | jnc | that would be a difference hmm... |
| 06:00.02 | jnc | anyhow RP raises a good point, which is that unless you actually build the kernel yourself, it's not going to be clear whether the binaries Sharp released will be equal to the source code supposedly used to make those binaries |
| 06:02.35 | emte | did sharp release their toolchain as well? |
| 06:03.27 | jnc | hmm |
| 06:04.53 | jnc | ooOoh http://kopsisengineering.com/kopsis/SharpZaurusSdkDsl |
| 06:07.02 | emte | he links to OE :P |
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| 06:12.10 | jnc | that is rather handy |
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| 07:14.32 | koobla | hi all! |
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| 07:50.47 | CIA-12 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r28f5897f... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): unslung-kernel: added kernel module netconsole |
| 07:50.54 | CIA-12 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r6f4af617... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): unslung-rootfs: unsling fix, empty pcmcia dir fix - unsling script fixed for no-automatic mount, updated README and NOTES, change to remove empty pcmcia dir |
| 07:50.55 | CIA-12 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * ra0581b19... 10/packages/linux/unslung-kernel_2.4.22.l2.3r63.bb: unslung-kernel: add missing netconsole patch file |
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| 08:40.42 | _law_ | hmm how can i get my private key from monotone db? |
| 08:41.33 | _law_ | cant commit anything to OE |
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| 08:48.23 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:48.36 | hrw|work | _law_: monotone --help |
| 08:49.03 | hrw|work | _law_: monotone privkey KEYID |
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| 08:52.54 | hrw|work | ~hail offlineimap |
| 08:52.57 | ibot | ACTION bows down to offlineimap and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 08:54.09 | _law_ | hrw|work, and how can i checkout what KEYID i have got? |
| 08:54.26 | _law_ | monotone privkey law@openembedded.org doesnt work |
| 08:55.18 | hrw|work | _law_: monotone keys |
| 09:04.11 | _law_ | hrw|work, i dont have got an privkey :-( |
| 09:06.11 | hrw|work | _law_: so if you lost your privkey then you will need to generate new one and discuss with koen+mickeyl |
| 09:08.09 | XorA | morning |
| 09:08.58 | hrw|work | hi XorA |
| 09:09.17 | XorA | hrw|work: offlineimap rules my Z |
| 09:09.32 | NAbyss | XorA: What client? |
| 09:09.56 | XorA | hrw|work: btw if you import python-2.4.2-manifest.inc and offlineimap_4.0.11.bb into the branch you will get fully functional for oz3.5.4 |
| 09:10.04 | XorA | NAbyss: muttng |
| 09:11.17 | _law_ | koen, i noticed that i lost my private key (had an hd-crash 2 month ago), could you remove my existing key from monotone? |
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| 09:11.55 | RP | morning all |
| 09:11.59 | XorA | bad _law_ you disobeyed the rule about locking your key in a fire proof safe and copying it to 1000 machines for safe keeping :-) |
| 09:12.04 | XorA | RP: morning |
| 09:12.33 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:12.49 | koen | RP: tf rocks |
| 09:12.56 | hrw|work | hi RP koen |
| 09:13.36 | koen | XorA: http://pastebin.com/578068 |
| 09:13.39 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 09:14.09 | koen | _law_: we can't actually remove keys from the db, so you have generate a key with a different name |
| 09:14.26 | _law_ | koen, ok |
| 09:14.35 | XorA | koen: sweet, abiword likes us |
| 09:15.08 | RP | koen: I was rather amused when you started complaining about abiword in the presentation as I knew he might fix things :) |
| 09:15.28 | _law_ | XorA, so you have to wait a little bit longer for tinymail update,or should i post .bb + gtk-no-dox stuff on my webserver ? |
| 09:15.39 | greentux_alt2 | morning @all |
| 09:15.44 | XorA | _law_: I fixed my self |
| 09:18.13 | _law_ | XorA, ok perhabs you could post it to OE ? |
| 09:18.28 | XorA | _law_: if you want, I could do that later |
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| 09:21.13 | koen | RP: the linux-openzaurus.bb had a nice effect on the audience ;) |
| 09:22.05 | RP | koen: Yes. It is getting rather scary atm. I was told I was working too hard :) |
| 09:23.12 | RP | koen: I thought it all went very well and presented OE in a good light in a manner that people found find useful. I know tf found it a useful intro (as someone who |
| 09:23.16 | RP | 's no used OE yet) |
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| 09:25.41 | koen | RP: at Gulev tigrux said that complex subjects like this are better handled with interactivity |
| 09:26.31 | RP | koen: Was there anything special you needed to do to get hald running btw? hal-device-manager appears to want pygnome - is that in OE? |
| 09:27.31 | koen | it isn't in OE, but it's not hard to get it to make an ipkg |
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| 09:27.46 | koen | it is hard to add it to OE in a clean way |
| 09:28.19 | RP | koen: I thought both the style and content worked well. It complemented mickeyl's presentation which aims to show different things (assuming I got the feel from his slides as I didn't see it in person) |
| 09:28.20 | koen | at least for a complete python novice as me |
| 09:29.51 | RP | I guess I can't describe myself as a complete python novice now... :) |
| 09:31.06 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.43 | [lala] | hi guys |
| 09:32.57 | [lala] | RP: any luck with that asoc patch yet? |
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| 09:49.32 | RP | [lala]: not had a chance yet. I'll aim to do that shortly |
| 09:53.19 | [lala] | RP: that would be great :-) thx in advance! |
| 10:03.42 | ade|desk | koen: can you see if vanille is running please |
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| 10:06.15 | koen | ade|desk: it is, I'm pushing to it right now :) |
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| 10:08.41 | CIA-12 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra277efc6... 10/packages/vnc/vnc_3.3.7.bb: Add realvnc 3.3.7, courtesy Raymond Danks |
| 10:08.47 | obergix[work] | hi |
| 10:12.23 | hrw|work | hi obergix[work] |
| 10:16.41 | greentux_alt2 | hi lrg |
| 10:17.41 | lrg | hey greentux_alt2 |
| 10:18.16 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: i am missing a usb adapter in the borzoi case. before i start searching the office... |
| 10:18.28 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: do you forgot it? |
| 10:21.03 | lrg | greentux_alt2: is it about 10cm long ? |
| 10:21.10 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: yes... |
| 10:21.26 | lrg | greentux_alt2: found it my laptop bag |
| 10:21.40 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: is it possible for you to send it asap to a adress i mail you? |
| 10:21.51 | lrg | ok |
| 10:21.53 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: simple in a letter case |
| 10:21.58 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: tnx |
| 10:23.30 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: mail sent |
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| 10:44.19 | ade|desk | ok cheer koen |
| 10:44.28 | ade|desk | cheers even |
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| 10:52.10 | leoncamel | hi, folks. I just bitbake bootstrap-image. And, the /lib directory is empty. So. where is wrong ? |
| 10:53.02 | leoncamel | And the "arm-linux-ldd busybox" indicate that it is really dynamicly linked. |
| 10:53.10 | leoncamel | So. What shall I do ? |
| 10:54.47 | hrw|work | leoncamel: you used own toolchain? |
| 10:55.02 | leoncamel | hrw|work, yes. |
| 10:55.16 | hrw|work | leoncamel: then copy all needed libs by hand |
| 10:56.03 | hrw|work | leoncamel: bitbake did not have to build libc, libgcc1 etc so it does not package them and your packages does not depend on them |
| 10:56.59 | koen | is there a *good* reason to use your own toolchain with OE? |
| 10:57.50 | leoncamel | hrw|work, So. which libs should I copying ? |
| 10:59.26 | njs | koen: heya |
| 10:59.39 | koen | hey njs |
| 11:00.06 | leoncamel | hrw|work, I mean, how many libs should I copy to /lib in the new rootfs ? |
| 11:00.20 | XorA | leoncamel: as many as ldd says are needed |
| 11:00.57 | leoncamel | XorA, ok. |
| 11:01.36 | njs | koen: just wanted to get back to you about the nasty merge |
| 11:01.48 | koen | njs: I suspected as much |
| 11:03.52 | koen | njs: did the rosterify work out? |
| 11:04.31 | njs | koen: I tried it with both 0.24 and 0.26pre-whatever -- with 0.24, it looks like you got lucky, and not only did it pick a really stupid base, but running with --lca it hit an old bug in the lca algorithm! and still picked a bad base. |
| 11:05.48 | koen | and with 0.26pre? |
| 11:05.49 | njs | koen: however, when I pulled up monotone-viz to see what the right LCA was, and told monotone to use that directly with explicit_merge, then the actual merge did become trivial -- just 1 conflict, some kernel config file that had a timestamp in a comment at the top, and the timestamp had changed. |
| 11:05.54 | njs | koen: with 0.26, it gave me that same conflict directly, without any fiddling around or anything. it also ran about 5 times faster, just to mock its elder and less able ancestor, or something :-) |
| 11:05.59 | njs | koen: err... it just went. I didn't time it or anything. |
| 11:06.01 | njs | but no problems. |
| 11:06.35 | koen | that's pretty good news |
| 11:09.23 | njs | is your last question there about whether I was using mainline monotone or not? if so, the answer is "yes" |
| 11:10.20 | koen | do you have a static version of 0.26pre which I can use to do some tests? |
| 11:10.54 | RP | njs: That sounds quite positive. Thanks for checking that out :) |
| 11:11.32 | njs | hmm, how static do you need? is dependency on libstdc++6 okay? |
| 11:11.53 | koen | that would probably okay |
| 11:11.59 | koen | debain/stable over here |
| 11:13.54 | koen | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 874164 2005-10-02 07:29 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.6 |
| 11:14.30 | njs | RP: np. it was a bit of a trip down memory lane actually, I'd managed to supress the memories of most such workaround over the last few months... |
| 11:14.30 | njs | RP: was helpful to understand what the problem really was, too; I'd have suggested the explicit_merge trick, but I didn't realize it was applicable. |
| 11:14.55 | koen | njs: and if possible a copy of the rosterified db :) |
| 11:15.23 | njs | koen: gimme a sec for the linker to run :-) |
| 11:15.27 | koen | :) |
| 11:16.02 | koen | ibot: botmail for zecke: dominion will serve a 0.26 db soon(TM) |
| 11:16.56 | koen | RP: you wouldn't have any updates gtkmm/glibmm packages lying around? |
| 11:17.04 | njs | koen: hmm, it has The Revisions That Must Not Be Named in it... |
| 11:17.26 | njs | koen: I guess you can kill them off easily enough, though. |
| 11:17.56 | RP | koen: no, sorry |
| 11:18.29 | njs | hmm, I guess people have been, like, improving monotone or something, apparently make wants to rebuild lots of files. will be a minute... |
| 11:18.50 | koen | njs: I have all day :) |
| 11:22.12 | njs | oh, and small warning, I doubt this applies to you guys, but we _just_ (like, a hour ago) tightened up monotone's checking of filename charsets. so it's possible if you have weird non-ascii, non-utf8 filenames checked in (which should be impossible, but we haven't had time to make sure it hasn't happened yet :-)), then it might fail. |
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| 11:22.27 | njs | koen: http://frances.vorpus.org/~njs/OE-bad-rosterified.db.bz2 |
| 11:22.51 | koen | wgetting |
| 11:23.20 | njs | koen: http://frances.vorpus.org/~njs/monotone-0.26pre-latest.bz2 |
| 11:23.43 | koen | thanks |
| 11:24.03 | njs | OE-bad-rosterified is RP's OE db, from before he removed the revs that were killed |
| 11:24.03 | njs | then run through rosterify |
| 11:24.32 | koen | initially I want to compare first pull timings |
| 11:24.47 | koen | after that it'd be testing to see if we can get it to break |
| 11:25.19 | CoreDump|work | hrw|work: ping |
| 11:27.03 | hrw|work | CoreDump|work: pong |
| 11:27.42 | njs | koen: nod |
| 11:27.51 | njs | koen: please break it! I am being scared by the lack of bugs found so far :-( |
| 11:27.51 | njs | koen: and you guys are really good at breaking things, it seems ;-) |
| 11:28.30 | CoreDump|work | haha, phear my push of death =) |
| 11:28.42 | hrw|work | CoreDump|work: altboot 1.0? |
| 11:28.42 | njs | koen: and the first pull timings are still being worked on in the next phase of work, as I guess you know from #monotone. |
| 11:29.03 | koen | njs: yes, and I read the mailinglist as well |
| 11:29.29 | koen | njs: I used 'delta storage format' a lot last weekend in converstations ;) |
| 11:29.33 | CoreDump|work | raduga: its coming ;) I just read your update on OZ.org regarding cxxxx machines |
| 11:29.44 | CoreDump|work | raduga: s/raduga/hrw |
| 11:30.07 | CoreDump|work | what's the problem with kernel 2.4? |
| 11:30.37 | njs | koen: oh my. |
| 11:30.38 | njs | koen: I'm sorry. |
| 11:30.41 | njs | koen: I have to use it a lot in conversations, I don't particularly wish that fate on other people :-) |
| 11:30.42 | hrw|work | CoreDump|work: apm problems, on/off button does not work correctly iirc etc |
| 11:31.23 | CoreDump|work | right, the button is fu*ked. But suspend / resume works fine with test5 AFAICT |
| 11:32.16 | hrw|work | CoreDump|work: anyway we skip them |
| 11:32.16 | CoreDump|work | hrw|work: anyways, was just wondering, gotta go back to work ;) later |
| 11:57.06 | hrw|work | koen: ping |
| 11:57.24 | koen | hrw|work: pong |
| 11:58.39 | hrw|work | koen: angstrom-2006.9.conf contain orinoco-modules_h3x00 = 0.13e - should not it be placed in machine configs rather? |
| 11:59.59 | koen | hrw|work: probably, but I hate all the whining I get when touching ipaq machine files |
| 12:05.40 | hrw|work | heh. |
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| 12:20.58 | koen | starting pull with monotone 0.26 |
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| 12:30.49 | koen | 20% done :) |
| 12:31.22 | njs | huh, I guess that's not _so_ bad... |
| 12:31.22 | hrw|work | after 10 minutes? |
| 12:31.25 | koen | yes |
| 12:31.32 | hrw|work | fscking awesome speed |
| 12:31.53 | koen | 800/4599 revs |
| 12:32.00 | koen | so slightly less than 20% |
| 12:32.31 | koen | ibot: calc 80 / 6 |
| 12:32.32 | hrw|work | koen: where from I can pull? |
| 12:32.37 | njs | it may slow down as you go, that's been seen sometimes... |
| 12:32.50 | njs | oh well, if you're happy, cool :-) |
| 12:32.59 | koen | hrw|work: only localhost ewi |
| 12:33.37 | njs | and we'll keep working on making it _actually_ fast, not just fast if your expectations are already lowered by old versions :-) |
| 12:33.40 | hrw|work | koen: ah.. cant you serve it? iirc 0.26pre use other port.. |
| 12:34.36 | njs | hrw|work: note you have to use mainline monotone from this week to pull, or it will get pissed off at the root suture stuff |
| 12:34.36 | koen | hrw|work: on port 80, 22 and old-monotone are open |
| 12:35.17 | hrw|work | ah.. ok |
| 12:35.22 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/monotone-0.26pre-latest.bz2 |
| 12:35.25 | koen | that one :) |
| 12:35.28 | hrw|work | njs: just fetched your latest one |
| 12:35.38 | njs | cool |
| 12:36.04 | koen | hrw|work: if you use ssh port forwarding you could pull |
| 12:36.07 | koen | port 4691 |
| 12:37.03 | hrw|work | hmm.. how it goes... |
| 12:37.17 | koen | njs: you can make it ~60% faster by making it multithreaded |
| 12:37.32 | koen | njs: one cpu is idling during pull over here |
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| 12:42.11 | njs | koen: that's the cpu you use to play movies while you're waiting for the download to finish |
| 12:42.22 | koen | :) |
| 12:42.26 | hrw|work | njs: on headless server? |
| 12:42.41 | koen | hrw|work: aalib in screen ;) |
| 12:42.49 | hrw|work | koen: libcaca |
| 12:43.00 | hrw|work | that remind me that I had to build mplayer with caca |
| 12:45.12 | koen | monotone: 23.8 M | 634 | 4,816/17,910 | 1,337/4,599 |
| 12:46.13 | hrw|work | so on one opteron full pull is 1.5-2h |
| 12:46.31 | koen | looks like it |
| 12:46.57 | hrw|work | ~lart mplayer cvs for being unbuildable |
| 12:46.59 | koen | roughly 1 rev/second |
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| 13:18.03 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 13:22.26 | hrw|work | hi Rui |
| 13:22.48 | mr_nice | I have a little question about monotone. I followed the description in the getting started part of the oe.handhelds.org wiki and got into some trouble. After I set up this line monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db pull ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox}" . The terminaloutput says this monotone: 41,1 M | 1,9 M | 18.792 | 4.778 | 2.475 . It is now about 24 hours ago that I set up that line. Is this normal? Have I've got jus |
| 13:23.07 | hrw|work | ~ewi |
| 13:23.08 | ibot | ewi is probably ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 |
| 13:23.17 | hrw|work | get snapshot and then pull |
| 13:23.48 | _law_ | has anyone a working kismet.conf for me (i use hostap modules) |
| 13:24.01 | _law_ | or only source string |
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| 13:25.32 | RP | lrg: The asoc fix works, thanks. Will push into OE shortly |
| 13:25.40 | koen | hrw|work: |
| 13:25.41 | koen | 14:24 < CIA-1> * commands.cc (CMD(merge)): don't say "misuse" if it's |
| 13:25.41 | koen | 14:24 < CIA-1> just already merged. |
| 13:26.07 | hrw|work | koen: noticed |
| 13:26.45 | koen | grrrr |
| 13:26.49 | hrw|work | 01 14:26 -!- Irssi: #monotone #oe : koen (dominion.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 13:27.02 | hrw|work | channels shared |
| 13:27.12 | koen | some bozo removed the extra warnings from GettinStarted |
| 13:27.57 | koen | mr_nice: the gettingstarted wiki tells you it will take a long time, so follow the advice given in that warning |
| 13:30.56 | mr_nice | koen: ok. I thougt 24 h are a long time - how many days takes it normaly? |
| 13:30.57 | koen | hrw|work: dominion.kabel.utwente.nl is now server 0.26 and 0.26pre |
| 13:31.02 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:31.10 | koen | mr_nice: 8 hours on my build machine |
| 13:31.12 | lrg | RP: cool, I'm now fixing tosa with dapm, etc |
| 13:33.01 | hrw|work | koen: started pulling |
| 13:33.35 | mr_nice | koen: could you please give me a guess about the revs written? have it to be the same nuber as the revs in to be compleate? |
| 13:34.32 | koen | mr_nice: it has to be the same number |
| 13:35.14 | hrw|work | RP: how much work we need to get 2.6 for oz 3.5.4.1? |
| 13:36.09 | RP | hrw|work: It shouldn't be that much work - just a lot of changes from .dev |
| 13:38.14 | mr_nice | koen: thx - thats great so I have a gues how long it will take :) |
| 13:38.18 | mr_nice | cya all |
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| 13:40.50 | hrw|work | koen: 8 minutes and still 0/4599 |
| 13:41.11 | hrw|work | koen: but probably first need to fetch more then 11M |
| 13:41.39 | koen | yes, about 20M |
| 13:41.51 | koen | your hitting my bandwidth limit :) |
| 13:43.10 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 13:45.54 | hrw|work | 19.6M |
| 13:46.40 | hrw|work | upto 23.8 has to be |
| 13:46.48 | hrw|work | started revs |
| 13:46.56 | hrw|work | 20.6M is all |
| 13:51.56 | hrw|work | and its about 1rev/s here too (axp1700+) |
| 14:00.33 | koen | monotone: 36.6 M | 634 | 17,714/17,910 | 4,552/4,599 |
| 14:00.35 | hrw|work | 460revs after 14 minues |
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| 14:01.53 | koen | real 97m29.603s |
| 14:01.53 | koen | user 97m37.583s |
| 14:01.53 | koen | sys 1m23.731s |
| 14:02.36 | koen | the wall clock says it took 1 hour and 37 minutes |
| 14:02.55 | hrw|work | much faster |
| 14:04.31 | koen | 11 hours vs 1.6 hours |
| 14:04.47 | ade|desk | but is it faster than other SCMs |
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| 14:05.01 | Bernardo | hi |
| 14:05.10 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 14:05.18 | ade|desk | if so monotone stays , better the devil you know and all |
| 14:06.32 | koen | it's now actually faster as svk in my tests |
| 14:06.49 | koen | which is an unfair test, since the svk server wasn't on localhost |
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| 14:25.51 | hrw|work | 1055revs |
| 14:32.47 | minipanda | hi, anybody can help me take a look at http://pastebin.com/578400 |
| 14:33.04 | minipanda | i faild to 'fetch bootstrap-image' in bitabke -i mode |
| 14:37.00 | hrw|work | ~lart handhelds-sa maintainer |
| 14:37.13 | hrw|work | minipanda: looks like handhelds-sa is fscked a bit |
| 14:38.59 | koen | hrw|work: looks more like a fscked cache/too old bitbake |
| 14:39.48 | hrw|work | NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/home/hzhang/netspectrum/wrt/20060228/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', <exceptions.IOError instance at 0xa746bbec>)) while evaluating: |
| 14:40.02 | hrw|work | tmp/staging/arm-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion is only AFTER building of kernel |
| 14:40.22 | hrw|work | so recipe cannot use ${KERNEL_VERSION} |
| 14:42.51 | minipanda | em .... |
| 14:43.38 | hrw|work | minipanda: first update bitbake to current version |
| 14:44.05 | minipanda | hrw|work: ok, svn up now |
| 14:45.56 | CIA-12 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd3623b9b... 10/packages/tinymail/ (files/gtk-doc.m4 files/gtk-doc.make tinymail_svn.bb): tinymail_svn.bb : add gtk doc stuff for _law_ |
| 14:46.00 | CIA-12 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc231cb3f... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.15.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Update to ASoC 0.10rc3 and tweak the headphone switch patch |
| 14:52.39 | CIA-12 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d485370... 10/packages/dia/dia_0.94+0.95pre3.bb: dia: add 0.95-pre3 |
| 14:53.06 | koen | XorA: what's the trick you use to boot from SD? |
| 14:53.53 | XorA | koen: just change root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 14:55.13 | hrw|work | 1600revs |
| 14:55.17 | koen | XorA: thanks |
| 15:03.47 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:17.39 | Cwiiis | Does anyone here have editing access to the OZ site? I can't remember my password and the lost password feature appears to be broken/slow... |
| 15:27.06 | CIA-12 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdfe9588c... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.110.bb: libgpewidget: update to 0.110 |
| 15:32.58 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: broken - sf.net does not allow to send mails from project sites |
| 15:33.19 | mickeyl|office | hi ho |
| 15:33.22 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: mail me from your address used at oz website and I will set pass for you |
| 15:33.27 | hrw|work | mickeyl|office: ho hi |
| 15:33.39 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Thanks - what's your address? |
| 15:34.06 | hrw|work | use irc@hrw.one.pl |
| 15:35.27 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: Sent |
| 15:35.29 | mickeyl|office | hrw|work: do you think you can make it for next years FOSDEM? It would be great to have you there as well. We plan to do two OE presentations and a combined OE/OZ/Familiar/Opie stand |
| 15:35.40 | mickeyl|office | GPE as well, of course |
| 15:36.09 | hrw|work | mickeyl|office: I have fosdem 2007 in plans |
| 15:36.15 | mickeyl|office | hrw|work: excellent! |
| 15:36.27 | hrw|work | 1h50m with monotone 0.26-pre = 2500 revs |
| 15:36.34 | koen | hey mickeyl|office |
| 15:36.57 | hrw|work | hi CoreDump|home |
| 15:37.25 | CoreDump|home | hello hrw|work hi all |
| 15:37.40 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
| 15:38.55 | mickeyl|office | hi koen, hi CoreDump|home |
| 15:39.08 | mickeyl|office | CoreDump|home: how about you and FOSDEM 2007 ? |
| 15:39.27 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl|office: if I can get the day off, why not =) |
| 15:39.40 | CoreDump|home | I hope you had a good time there? |
| 15:40.40 | minipanda | hrw|work: alright, since svn up, bitbake -i, fetch bootstrap-image done :-) |
| 15:40.50 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I'll so the last of the altboot testing on collie today. Should be ready by the end of the day |
| 15:40.57 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: great |
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| 15:42.15 | Cwiiis | CoreDump|home: Is it easy to use your collie SD package stuff btw? |
| 15:42.15 | CoreDump|home | Cwiiis: dead simple |
| 15:42.17 | Cwiiis | I'll have to check it out this week then :) |
| 15:42.20 | CoreDump|home | ;) |
| 15:42.36 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: and there is no other root-on-sd scripts/hacks anymore |
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| 15:43.00 | Cwiiis | Is ipkg-link still being used? |
| 15:43.41 | [lala] | RP: starting devmand: /etc/zaurusd/scripts/zaurus-hinge: 37: xrandr not found |
| 15:43.53 | [lala] | RP: what's that about? |
| 15:44.37 | CoreDump|home | mehhh 61 revs to pull |
| 15:44.45 | hrw|work | good news: we will get poodle ;) |
| 15:44.56 | koen | CoreDump|home: about 1 minute with the new monotone :) |
| 15:45.06 | mickeyl|office | CoreDump|home: that'd be cool. FOSDEM is always a great happening. It's not just about the presentations, but also about meeting the guys in person and having contacts to the people who actually use your stuff :) |
| 15:45.07 | CoreDump|home | doh |
| 15:45.15 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl|office: indeed |
| 15:45.16 | koen | [lala]: devmand is written for X :) |
| 15:45.27 | mickeyl|office | hrw|work: excellent! |
| 15:45.31 | hrw|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17632&view=findpost&p=116531 |
| 15:45.33 | CoreDump|home | s/people/suckers hehe |
| 15:45.37 | koen | mickeyl|office: and seeing mickeyl drink leffe |
| 15:45.39 | mickeyl|office | CoreDump|home: heh |
| 15:45.45 | mickeyl|office | koen: :D |
| 15:45.55 | mickeyl|office | indeed. I have a slight leffe brun consume problem |
| 15:46.09 | [lala] | koen: that's what i had in mind as well ... but zaurusd seems to require it |
| 15:46.10 | mickeyl|office | especially the days when I'm outside belgium |
| 15:46.31 | CoreDump|home | <hrw|work> good news: we will get poodle ;) |
| 15:46.33 | CoreDump|home | yay |
| 15:46.59 | hrw|work | I hope that I will not be the one who will get it |
| 15:48.09 | koen | it needs to go to someone who has time to hack on it |
| 15:48.26 | hrw|work | koen: we have someone with time? |
| 15:48.35 | koen | ehm..... |
| 15:48.59 | mickeyl|office | we can do it like with the 6000. everyone can look at a different aspect. RP could check some kernel issues, I can look about wifi cards behaving odd on that model, coredump could check altboot etc. etc. |
| 15:49.27 | CoreDump|home | sounds like a plan |
| 15:49.39 | hrw|work | mickeyl|office: for me tosa is 2nd to be marked as non-maintained machine |
| 15:50.11 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: that came as a little surprise for me. I always thought that tosa was a nice machine |
| 15:50.44 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: look at oz-devel and recent tosa fixes.. |
| 15:50.51 | hrw|work | it has FSCKED keymap since 3.5.3 |
| 15:51.01 | hrw|work | noone fixed it |
| 15:51.02 | mickeyl|office | hrw|work: that will change. there are a lot of tosas out there. when we have 2.6 on the device, our distribution will get more attractive than it's now. |
| 15:51.15 | hrw|work | it cannot suspend/resume with working usb wifi |
| 15:51.20 | hrw|work | etc etc etc |
| 15:51.40 | mickeyl|office | lrg: yay |
| 15:51.41 | hrw|work | we maintain c7x0 and collie. |
| 15:51.58 | hrw|work | cxx00/2.6 are maintained |
| 15:52.08 | mickeyl|office | i can do more work on tosa, but not until summer has passed |
| 15:52.23 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: got a question about 3.5.4.1 |
| 15:52.26 | hrw|work | mickeyl|office: write PhD first |
| 15:52.33 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: dont ask to ask but ask |
| 15:52.33 | mickeyl|office | hrw|work: *nod* absolutely |
| 15:52.36 | CoreDump|home | is it 3.5.4 + 2.6 kernel or a .dev snapshot |
| 15:52.41 | RP | [lala]: If you're using opie, you can remove the zaurus-hinge script for now - it should be checking if that binary exists before trying to run it. It handles rotating the screen under GPE |
| 15:52.44 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: 3.5.4 + 2.6 kernel |
| 15:52.56 | CoreDump|home | excellent =) |
| 15:52.58 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: and all updates which are needed to get it working good |
| 15:53.10 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: .oz354fam083 is for 3.5.4+ releases |
| 15:53.16 | CoreDump|home | works damn fine as it is. The kernl has very few bugs |
| 15:53.31 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: if soemthing is not in .oz354fam083 then it does not exist in 3.5.4+ |
| 15:53.38 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: ok |
| 15:54.10 | CoreDump|home | well the biggest problem with 2.6 is that it changes your jffs2 partitions so that a 2.4 kernel oopses during mount. |
| 15:54.24 | CoreDump|home | no kexec to 2.4 =( |
| 15:55.05 | koen | I've been saying that for months |
| 15:55.11 | koen | ;) |
| 15:55.38 | HopsNBarley | koen: dumb question - what is multimachine? |
| 15:56.04 | koen | HopsNBarley: it allows you do build for multiple machines and reuse toolchains and stuff |
| 15:56.22 | koen | mickeyl|office: did you see http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1829 ? |
| 15:56.25 | RP | re: poodle, If I get it for a few weeks, I suspect i can sort out 2.6 on it in sort order. There can't be that much wrong with it... |
| 15:56.37 | RP | s/sort/short/ |
| 15:56.39 | mickeyl|office | RP: yay! |
| 15:56.47 | HopsNBarley | ah, guess you can't do that now - though I do parallel openslug and ucslugc builds... |
| 15:56.54 | HopsNBarley | sounds great, and i'll love it too! |
| 15:57.46 | mickeyl|office | koen: yeah. finally some kind of event interoperability between qt and gtk |
| 15:57.53 | mickeyl|office | koen: and the lower layers of course |
| 15:58.17 | koen | mickeyl|office: and the glib mainloop integration |
| 15:58.42 | koen | mickeyl|office: it means you can start looking at using dbus for opie/fluffie |
| 15:59.07 | mickeyl|office | koen: yeah. Fluffie/Qt4 will happily use dbus |
| 16:01.16 | hrw|work | for(rok = rok_start, a = 0; rok <= rok_end; rok++, a++) |
| 16:01.30 | hrw|work | javascript suxx but atleast it work |
| 16:02.24 | hrw|work | monotone: 30,9 M | 634 | 12033/17910 | 3150/4599 |
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| 16:02.54 | mickeyl|office | hail pb_ |
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| 16:05.52 | koen | mickeyl|office: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/68/6816.html |
| 16:05.54 | greentux_alt2 | RP: headphone has "right mixer" off, thats a "little" bug :) |
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| 16:06.21 | RP | greentux_alt2: Are you not in headset mode? It worked when I tested it this morning |
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| 16:07.54 | mickeyl|office | koen: impressive! |
| 16:08.01 | mickeyl|office | 6 times is better than what I hoped for |
| 16:09.58 | koen|food | bbl |
| 16:10.03 | mickeyl|office | ~bon appetit |
| 16:10.05 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito |
| 16:13.55 | greentux_alt2 | RP: you are right, it was headphone(!)... only for later finalising |
| 16:15.05 | Cwiiis | Is it possible to compile the collie kernel without the gcc 2.9x toolchain at the moment? |
| 16:15.34 | RP | Cwiiis: no :-( |
| 16:15.41 | Cwiiis | ah, scratch that then :) |
| 16:16.05 | hrw|work | ~zauruskernels |
| 16:16.06 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, zauruskernels is By default Zaurus use 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 and you need GCC 2.95.3 to compile them - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels There is also work on 2.6: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 |
| 16:17.48 | hrw|work | ibot: no, zauruskernels is By default Zaurus used 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 which need GCC 2.95.3 to compile - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels Now we work on moving all models to 2.6 kernels: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 |
| 16:17.50 | ibot | okay, hrw|work |
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| 16:23.16 | pH5 | hi |
| 16:27.11 | greentux_alt2 | lrg + RP: perhaps you have an idea: after "arecord -c 1 -r 48000 -f S16_LE | aplay" all other apps work very fine! no problem. but without the (possible) init from arecord th emic was down. |
| 16:27.46 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: what does arecord, what other apps (i think they are using oss emu) not do? |
| 16:30.01 | lrg | greentux_alt2: do you mean the mic does not work without arecord ? |
| 16:30.29 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: yes, after loading the init states from RP the Pi/Phone app had no mic. |
| 16:30.42 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: i assume te pi/phone uses oss (/dev/dsp r/w) |
| 16:30.56 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: perhaps there are a little problem in the oss emulation? |
| 16:31.10 | lrg | greentux_alt2: can you cat /sys/device/platform/soc-audio/dpm |
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| 16:31.20 | pb__ | hail mickeyl|office |
| 16:31.41 | greentux_alt2 | RP: suspend worked for you? |
| 16:32.09 | RP | greentux_alt2: Yes, even with music playing |
| 16:32.25 | lrg | greentux_alt2: same here, np on mainstone |
| 16:32.40 | greentux_alt2 | RP: in th emoment nothing happens. will look deeper :) |
| 16:32.51 | CIA-12 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rbcba7ea1... 10/packages/vnc/ (tightvnc/Makefile tightvnc_1.3dev7.bb): tightvnc_1.3dev7.bb : add tightvnc recipe |
| 16:33.26 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: root@borzoi:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio/dpm |
| 16:33.26 | greentux_alt2 | Mono Out 1: Off |
| 16:33.27 | greentux_alt2 | Out 3: Off |
| 16:33.27 | greentux_alt2 | Right PGA Mux: Off |
| 16:33.27 | greentux_alt2 | Left PGA Mux: On |
| 16:33.29 | greentux_alt2 | Left ADC: On |
| 16:33.31 | greentux_alt2 | Right ADC: Off |
| 16:33.33 | greentux_alt2 | Mic Bias: On |
| 16:33.35 | greentux_alt2 | Left DAC: Off |
| 16:33.37 | greentux_alt2 | Right DAC: Off |
| 16:33.39 | greentux_alt2 | Left Out 1: Off |
| 16:33.41 | greentux_alt2 | Right Out 1: On |
| 16:33.43 | greentux_alt2 | Left Out 2: Off |
| 16:33.45 | greentux_alt2 | Right Out 2: Off |
| 16:33.47 | greentux_alt2 | Mono Mixer: Off |
| 16:33.48 | RP | greentux_alt2: In future, use pastebin |
| 16:33.49 | greentux_alt2 | DAC Mute: On |
| 16:33.51 | CoreDump|home | ... |
| 16:33.51 | greentux_alt2 | WM8750 Clock: Off |
| 16:33.53 | greentux_alt2 | PM State: D3hot |
| 16:33.55 | RP | ~pastebin |
| 16:34.05 | ibot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 16:34.06 | hrw|work | ~pastebin |
| 16:34.08 | ibot | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 16:34.08 | hrw|work | ~flood |
| 16:34.09 | ibot | somebody said flood was spewing loads of output into a channel; *very* rude in most channels and often grounds for banning. If you want to show a lot of output to someone, ask them to join you in #flood and paste the output there. |
| 16:34.09 | greentux_alt2 | RP: sorry, yes! |
| 16:35.57 | lrg | greentux_alt2: dapm looks fine, the ADC is on and the mic is supplied with bias (power) |
| 16:36.23 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: in headset mic is the "right" channel? |
| 16:37.04 | RP | greentux_alt2: This was after running arecord so though so everything was working? Is it the same if you run it after booting and switching to headset mode but before you run arecord? |
| 16:37.05 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: sorry, above do u see the working output... |
| 16:37.18 | greentux_alt2 | RP: will do that |
| 16:37.28 | hrw|work | wow.. someone use qtopia under pdaX - inside of qvfb... |
| 16:38.05 | CoreDump|home | sounds sick |
| 16:38.11 | hrw|work | is sick |
| 16:38.18 | hrw|work | more sick then x/qt |
| 16:38.28 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 16:38.59 | lrg | greentux_alt2: headset mic is left chn |
| 16:40.12 | greentux_alt2 | after rebooting: http://pastebin.ca/44111 |
| 16:40.19 | greentux_alt2 | all off, no zaurusd |
| 16:40.28 | greentux_alt2 | switch_vd runs |
| 16:41.30 | greentux_alt2 | mode is hodephone. |
| 16:42.15 | greentux_alt2 | now i switch to headset with alsamixer right? |
| 16:42.33 | lrg | greentux_alt2: looks fine for no active streams, you need to either run aplay or arecord to see the bits powered up. |
| 16:43.04 | RP | greentux_alt2: Not with alsamixer. Use the script as I detailed in the email |
| 16:43.13 | greentux_alt2 | RP: ok |
| 16:43.41 | greentux_alt2 | /etc/zaurusd/scripts/zaurus-mixer-callback Headset Off |
| 16:43.56 | RP | greentux_alt2: Was just typing that :) |
| 16:44.32 | greentux_alt2 | http://pastebin.ca/44112 |
| 16:44.37 | greentux_alt2 | something changed. right? |
| 16:46.09 | greentux_alt2 | what should i do now? test the voip app or the arecord? |
| 16:46.16 | lrg | greentux_alt2: you need to run your app now |
| 16:46.40 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: ok start kphone/pi, no dialing... |
| 16:47.11 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: nothing changed |
| 16:47.16 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: will try a call |
| 16:47.45 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: damn! it works! |
| 16:48.50 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: will try again. (i love that soundchip). |
| 16:52.30 | greentux_alt2 | lrg: suspend/resume and works... |
| 16:59.28 | pH5 | I'm planning to do the xlibs rename/move this evening (x11/x11, xpm/xpm -> xlibs/libx11, xlibs/xpm, etc.). Any objections? |
| 16:59.57 | koen | nope |
| 17:00.08 | hrw|work | I do not touch .dev even |
| 17:00.13 | hrw|work | monotone: 35,9 M | 634 | 16954/17910 | 4365/4599 |
| 17:00.26 | hrw|work | 3h15m |
| 17:01.25 | pH5 | s/xpm,/libxpm,/ |
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| 17:05.40 | RP | pH5: fine with me :) |
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| 17:07.06 | zecke | hey |
| 17:07.18 | zecke | rwhitby: I have one Unslung question |
| 17:08.20 | hrw|work | hmm.. we need to make something like http://people.kde.nl/ (The People Behind KDE website) - "The People Behind OE" |
| 17:08.37 | hrw|work | what do you think? |
| 17:09.05 | zecke | agreed, who can do it? |
| 17:09.32 | RP | hi zecke |
| 17:09.41 | hrw|work | zecke: why you always ask trouble questions? |
| 17:09.42 | hrw|work | :) |
| 17:10.41 | ade|desk | and then maybe a website for the people behind the website for the people behind oe ?? |
| 17:11.44 | CoreDump|home | =) |
| 17:12.23 | hrw|work | real 219m10.116s |
| 17:12.24 | hrw|work | user 140m5.715s |
| 17:12.24 | hrw|work | sys 1m53.158s |
| 17:12.33 | hrw|work | moreal 219m10.116s |
| 17:12.33 | hrw|work | user 140m5.715s |
| 17:12.33 | hrw|work | sys 1m53.158s |
| 17:12.35 | hrw|work | ops |
| 17:12.45 | hrw|work | it was: time ~/monotone-0.26pre-latest pull dominion.kabel.utwente.nl org.openembedded.dev --db baza-0.26-pre.db |
| 17:13.53 | hrw|work | ok. time to go home - cu |
| 17:16.33 | CoreDump|home | cu hrw|gone |
| 17:19.50 | pb__ | hail zecke |
| 17:19.54 | koen | zecke: you can test monotone 0.26pre-thismorning now |
| 17:21.00 | pH5 | org.oe.dev has two heads |
| 17:22.05 | koen | not on vanille.de |
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| 17:23.21 | pH5 | oh, sorry. I guess 601faaded8a6427e29dc8dc43433fe9be662c96c is one of those mysterious to-be-deleted-locally revisions? |
| 17:23.29 | koen | yes |
| 17:26.01 | minipanda | hi, is this the latest one? monotone: already up to date at f076172bf11be4df22001e51898b11d9f9e2050d |
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| 17:28.18 | koen | monotone: already up to date at 3a42af814b71596f330d557943e49bdcd8b602d6 |
| 17:28.25 | RP | CoreDump|home: Submit a patch? |
| 17:28.32 | CoreDump|home | nahh |
| 17:28.32 | koen | CoreDump|home: anything with dates breaks across timezones |
| 17:29.17 | CoreDump|home | it was just an idea, anything is better than hashes (if you need to compare them at least) |
| 17:29.41 | koen | isn't that the purpose of hashes? |
| 17:29.45 | koen | easier comparision |
| 17:30.01 | CoreDump|home | um not if you do the comparsion by hand heh |
| 17:30.48 | koen | this is taking ages |
| 17:30.58 | koen | untarring a rootfs from cf to sd on a c700 |
| 17:31.19 | CoreDump|home | koen: use altboot for that heh |
| 17:31.28 | CoreDump|home | it mounts them async for that ;) |
| 17:31.47 | koen | I doubt that helps on a c700 :( |
| 17:32.29 | CoreDump|home | http://oz.hentges.net/openembedded/altboot/latest-snapshot/c7x0/ <- untested ;) |
| 17:34.43 | koen | my kernel boots straight from sd :) |
| 17:36.00 | CoreDump|home | that's cheating =D |
| 17:39.11 | HopsNBarley | the do_package phase of the bake just walks the image/ directory to make a package, correct? |
| 17:41.40 | CoreDump|home | hmm that would be install/ or not? |
| 17:42.29 | CoreDump|home | do_install: image/ -> install, do_package install/ -> .ipk IIRC |
| 17:43.30 | CoreDump|home | hmmmm looks like SD auto-mounting has problems on collie at least |
| 17:44.26 | HopsNBarley | i'm trying to figure out how bb knows which files to put in the package. the 2800 examples use various schemes. in some of them there is no FILES defined at all. In others, they are explicitly listed. just looking for some light on the issue. |
| 17:44.50 | RP | HopsNBarley: There is a default set of FILES_ defined |
| 17:45.57 | koen | any volunteers for adding libata to OE? |
| 17:46.22 | RP | Is dbus-native-0.61 known to work? |
| 17:47.01 | HopsNBarley | RP: can't find FILES anywhere in bitbake hierarchy... where is it set? |
| 17:47.06 | CIA-12 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0abc6467... 10/packages/libtool/libtool-native_1.5.10.bb: libtool-native: Remove unneeded DEPENDS (the original problem this works around is fixed). |
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| 17:48.35 | zecke | hrw|gone: sorry for that |
| 17:48.41 | RP | HopsNBarley: conf/bitbake.conf |
| 17:48.50 | zecke | koen: I have read your email |
| 17:49.18 | zecke | koen: I think there is no easy way to incrementally convert? |
| 17:49.35 | HopsNBarley | i see FILESDIR and FILESPATH... i'll read some code and hopefully come back with better questions! thanks |
| 17:49.57 | RP | HopsNBarley: Note this file is in openembedded, not bitbake |
| 17:50.31 | HopsNBarley | got it. |
| 17:50.42 | koen | zecke: maybe via monotone-dumb |
| 17:52.17 | koen | zecke: njs also had a solution for vendors with private branches |
| 17:53.16 | CoreDump|home | koen: tar.gz install w/ async on collie: <1m for gpe-image |
| 17:53.38 | koen | collie doesn't have broken cache and ide bugs |
| 17:53.56 | HopsNBarley | RP: ahhh.... |
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| 18:06.01 | pb__ | pH5: rock |
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| 18:13.06 | zecke | Crofton: hey |
| 18:13.13 | Crofton | hey |
| 18:13.29 | zecke | now I see you I should merge svn again :) |
| 18:13.36 | zecke | well the feedback is quite low, I wonder why |
| 18:13.59 | zecke | I guess everyone is perfectly happy with monotone afterall |
| 18:14.24 | Crofton | heh |
| 18:15.08 | CosmicPenguin | people are lazy |
| 18:15.18 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure they'll have lots to say about svn if they were forced to use dit |
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| 18:16.39 | koen | hey mreimer |
| 18:16.46 | emte | zecke, monotone IS getting better ... |
| 18:16.57 | HopsNBarley | i wish monotone had a '-n' flag, ala make. would be useful for propagate |
| 18:17.04 | Crofton | How is the new version of monotone? I saw some speed improvement remarks |
| 18:17.26 | Crofton | Is there anything explaining the multiple head problem in terms I can understand? |
| 18:17.35 | koen | Crofton: initial pull in 1.5 hours |
| 18:17.59 | Crofton | as opposed to almost forever :) |
| 18:18.28 | emte | Crofton, take two cars and drive them headlong into eachother ... theoretically they "could" combine into one car ... usually you end up with a mess |
| 18:18.44 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 18:18.57 | Crofton | I think I need something slightly more technical :) |
| 18:19.33 | koen | Crofton: we hit a bug in monotone 0.25 |
| 18:19.52 | koen | monotone 0.26 handled the multiple head situation without problems |
| 18:19.55 | Crofton | so this problem will not be as bad in .26? |
| 18:19.56 | Crofton | ok |
| 18:20.06 | law_ | hmm should also work now (since latest kernel update) |
| 18:20.26 | law_ | alsa always doesnt find any soundcard |
| 18:21.21 | lrg | law_: what Z do you have again ? |
| 18:21.33 | law_ | husky c760 |
| 18:22.01 | lrg | RP: is husky a corgi.c ? |
| 18:22.16 | RP | lrg: yes |
| 18:22.33 | CIA-12 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rf16c11d5... 10/packages/ (167 files in 77 dirs): all over the place: adapt DEPENDS to new xlib names |
| 18:23.24 | lrg | RP: ah, thanks. It looks like an init problem. |
| 18:23.41 | lrg | It's not matching the codec to the machine... |
| 18:24.03 | law_ | should i post a lsmod ? |
| 18:24.59 | lrg | law_: no, RP knows the machine very well. We've made some recent changes to asoc and corgi.c in asoc, so it's possible somethings been missed |
| 18:25.13 | law_ | ah ok |
| 18:25.21 | RP | law_: I'm building a kernel now and will look into it |
| 18:25.30 | law_ | RP: nice |
| 18:25.37 | RP | I'll also see if I can get the mic working with it... |
| 18:26.24 | lrg | ~hail RP |
| 18:26.25 | ibot | ACTION bows down to RP and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 20:20.42 | gremlin[it] | hi to all, i have an issue (dependecy issue i think) |
| 20:21.08 | mhentges | hi gremlin[it] |
| 20:21.36 | gremlin[it] | i'm have done some changed to oe configs to build a h3600 image with kernel 2.6 |
| 20:21.55 | gremlin[it] | recently (in last 10 days about) i got this error |
| 20:22.02 | gremlin[it] | | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap: |
| 20:22.02 | gremlin[it] | | kernel-module-mcp-core-2.6 |
| 20:22.11 | mr_nice | hi all - to take a long story short, which is the correct statement in local.conf to set the TARGET_OS variable to Linux? Here is the long version :Well, I have a little trouble configuring my local.conf file. I've red the file and changed everything to my needs. I've also read, that the default TARGET_OS is Linux so i don't uncommented it. Now I've got a error ERROR: The following variable(s) were not set: TARGET_OS. After this I uncommented the |
| 20:22.49 | gremlin[it] | but i have deleted all 'mcp-core' modules from my config files (ad not exist in oe original) ... :( |
| 20:22.53 | gremlin[it] | any clue ? |
| 20:22.58 | gremlin[it] | hi mhentges :) |
| 20:23.19 | koen | gremlin[it]: rebuild task-bootstrap |
| 20:23.51 | gremlin[it] | i try but i got the error at the end ... |
| 20:24.04 | RP | mr_nice: I guess you're not using a DISTRO so TARGET_OS isn't being set to anything. It would only "default" if you use a distro |
| 20:24.09 | lrg | koen: looks like our videos are online now - yikes |
| 20:25.22 | koen | eeks! |
| 20:25.33 | koen | lrg: fosdem.org or free-electrons? |
| 20:26.12 | lrg | koen: free-electrons, you should have an email to your handhelds address |
| 20:26.27 | mhentges | nice |
| 20:26.49 | lrg | koen: I only got mine about 10 mins ago |
| 20:27.51 | koen | hmmm |
| 20:28.07 | koen | apparently the only device with the right codecs is my ipaq |
| 20:29.38 | minipanda | koen: hi, i've updated to latest OE.db and bitbake ... |
| 20:29.41 | mr_nice | RP: if I set the DISTRO = "familiar-unstable" then i get this error ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/local.conf:79: unparsed line: ' DISTRO = "familiar-unstable"') The MACHINE variable is set to MACHINE = "simpad" is the familiar-unstable setting illegal if the MACHINE is set to simpad? |
| 20:30.02 | minipanda | koen: and now fetch bootstrap-image is ok, but i still failed to build ... |
| 20:30.18 | minipanda | koen: please take a look at http://pastebin.com/578966 |
| 20:30.44 | tnb | koen (or someone else), this is probably a FAQ : - /, but how do I get some random package (e.g. 'atd') into my opie-image build and gpe-image? Maybe by defining EXTRA_IMAGEDEPENDS (used in rootfs_ipk.bbclass)? |
| 20:31.18 | koen | atd is already in gpe image :) |
| 20:31.36 | tnb | ok, use bash as the example, then :) |
| 20:31.46 | koen | tnb: the quickest way is to poke at BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_(R)DEPENDS in ipaq-pxa270.conf |
| 20:32.15 | RP | tnb: No, you need to add it to the image dependencies. We don't have then but could probably use some EXTRA_OPIE_IMAGE_RDEPENDS and EXTRA_GPE_IMAGE_RDEPENDS people could use... |
| 20:32.28 | RP | These would work like EXTRA_BOOSTRAP_RDEPENDS |
| 20:32.37 | koen | minipanda: rm /home/hzhang/netspectrum/wrt/20060228/build/tmp/cache -rf |
| 20:32.47 | RP | mr_nice: That should work - I'd work out why you get the parse error |
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| 20:33.09 | tnb | what are the _append versions of these for? I put the packages there initially |
| 20:33.37 | koen | tnb: did you doo foo_append = "bar" or foo_append = " bar"? |
| 20:33.46 | koen | _append needs an extra space |
| 20:33.46 | RP | tnb: append versions of which variable? |
| 20:34.05 | tnb | and, would it go in RDEPENDS or DEPENDS or both? (their use is still unclear) |
| 20:34.12 | tnb | BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS_append = " udev module-init-tools bash" |
| 20:34.15 | tnb | for example |
| 20:34.19 | RP | tnb: You're using .dev? |
| 20:34.43 | tnb | no, fam083 |
| 20:35.12 | tnb | (oz354fam083) |
| 20:35.22 | RP | Which file uses an _append on BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS - that sounds like bad practise... |
| 20:35.35 | RP | For the branch it will need to be added to both variables |
| 20:35.48 | RP | This all changed in .dev which just uses RDEPENDS now |
| 20:36.08 | tnb | RP: conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf |
| 20:36.40 | tnb | RP: ok (both), I'll give it a try |
| 20:37.26 | RP | tnb: Note that RDEPENDS takes a package name and DEPENDS takes a bitbake target name which can be different |
| 20:37.35 | minipanda | koen: well, it failed again, even after i removed whole /build/tmp |
| 20:37.50 | tnb | RP: ah, that could be my problem |
| 20:37.55 | minipanda | koen: and it's still the same error like my last post |
| 20:38.27 | zecke | rwhitby: can more than two USB disks be hooked to the NSLU when using unslung? |
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| 20:39.06 | RP | koen: That append line is confusing in ipaq-pxa270.conf. If there's a reason, I can't see it :) |
| 20:39.59 | RP | zecke: I have some bitbake updates. I've rewritten some of the git fetcher and enhanced the mirrors handling code to accept multiple src mirrors. Just testing the changes now... |
| 20:40.42 | zecke | RP: Well. Get back to real work! |
| 20:41.02 | zecke | RP: if you do not listen you could move the 'command runner' to the fetcher module |
| 20:41.07 | pH5 | btw, why do so many machine conf files append module-init-tools to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS when it is pulled by task-bootstrap.bb already? |
| 20:41.22 | zecke | RP: and make the premirror and tarballstash use any other SCM system :) |
| 20:41.29 | zecke | RP: use cvs to get the git tarball :) |
| 20:42.10 | pb_ | pH5: historical reasons, I suppose |
| 20:42.21 | pb_ | task-bootstrap didn't use to do that |
| 20:42.48 | RP | pH5: That sounds like something we can cleanup |
| 20:43.17 | RP | zecke: I suggested moving the "command runner" to the fetcher module a while back - I thought you had concerns about it though? |
| 20:43.48 | zecke | RP: ah, just general concern when using os.system |
| 20:44.08 | zecke | RP: I agree though that bitbake should set exported variables when running commands |
| 20:44.59 | RP | zecke: so we agree having it wrapped in one function in the fetcher module would be safer than the mutliple os.system calls in each fetcher module as at the moment? |
| 20:45.32 | RP | I'll move it, we can then worry about making it more secure... |
| 20:47.08 | gremlin[it] | koen .. do u have far distance ESP debugging ability ?!?!?! i rebuild again and again, clening and not ... but nothing change ... after u said "rebuild" start to work without errors !!! :) :) :) |
| 20:47.35 | koen | my crystal ball came back from repairs ;) |
| 20:47.49 | gremlin[it] | hihihi :) |
| 20:48.30 | gremlin[it] | koe wgat is the irc chan for cirrus 93xx ??? |
| 20:48.40 | gremlin[it] | s/koe/koen/ |
| 20:49.05 | koen | gremlin[it]: #ep93xx |
| 20:49.13 | gremlin[it] | thanks |
| 20:49.17 | zecke | RP: right |
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| 21:00.00 | tnb | RP: after I add a package to DEPENDS/RDEPENDS how much do I need to rebuild? |
| 21:00.20 | RP | zecke: I like the idea of the stash using all available SCMs. I suspect we can get into nasty loops doing that though :) |
| 21:00.33 | RP | tnb: Probably task-bootstrap |
| 21:00.40 | tnb | a 'build opie-image' build the dependency, but did not include it in the base tarball |
| 21:00.49 | tnb | ok, thanks |
| 21:01.08 | zecke | RP: I would be happy to use scp instead of http |
| 21:02.29 | pH5 | hi Philippe |
| 21:02.36 | RP | zecke: Indeed. I just tried multiple stash urls including a file:// and an http://. The file:// was unsupported :-/ |
| 21:02.49 | RP | zecke: Multiple stash sources is supported though |
| 21:03.22 | zecke | I'm busy implementing a couple of Fourier Transformations and I think I'm too dump |
| 21:03.25 | zecke | dumb even |
| 21:03.27 | pH5 | if I want to update libxv_2.2.2 to the one from X11R7.0 (libxv_1.0.1) - until bitbake gets epoch support, is it okay to set the version to libxv_X11R7.0-1.0.1 ? |
| 21:04.07 | tnb | RP: bingo! that did it, thanks! |
| 21:05.10 | RP | pH5: That will just break when we do get epoch support :-/ |
| 21:06.23 | RP | pH5: Set the version to the correct string including the epoch and people with problems will just have to set a PREFERRED_VERSION... |
| 21:06.31 | RP | pH5: That way ipkg can still do its job |
| 21:07.08 | pH5 | Is it correct that packages with an epoch set have colons in their file names? |
| 21:08.03 | RP | pH5: I guess so. You could omit the colon part and just set PV in the file to include that bit I guess... |
| 21:08.19 | pH5 | RP: how will it break? once there is epoch support, the next version will be 1:1.0.1, which should sort after X11R7.0-1.0.1. |
| 21:10.59 | RP | pH5: Read the version policies page on the wiki and the debian link. It will compare X with "" and conclude X sorts higher |
| 21:11.40 | RP | pH5: I think anyway - try ipkg-compare-versions to be sure :) |
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| 21:11.54 | pH5 | RP: thanks, I will :) |
| 21:12.15 | rwhitby | zecke: with Unslung 6.7 (in alpha testing now), you can have as many disks behind a hub as you like. |
| 21:12.16 | RP | pH5: hang on, you're right, For some reason I was thinking there was a colon in both expressions :-/ |
| 21:12.31 | Philippe | hey pH5 |
| 21:12.40 | rwhitby | zecke: but I expect you would want to run OpenSlug or DebianSlug, being a linux firmware developer yourself. |
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| 21:14.31 | zecke | rwhitby: right, so it is time to get a NSLU2 from my paypal account |
| 21:14.39 | zecke | any other ideas on how to spend money useful? |
| 21:18.03 | zecke | well I'm sure I could send it to pb_ |
| 21:18.48 | pb_ | I guess you could, but that wouldn't be terribly useful. |
| 21:19.03 | pb_ | better to spend it on buying leffe for mickey. |
| 21:20.08 | pb_ | or scotch for kergoth, or something. |
| 21:23.39 | rwhitby | zecke: it's always a good time to get an NSLU2 :-) Unless you can find an NAS100d or DSMG600 instead ;-) |
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| 21:27.29 | koen|tv | rwhitby: no, a ixp2800 :) |
| 21:27.54 | rwhitby | heh |
| 21:28.49 | koen|tv | imagine a slug with 10x1.4GHz microengines |
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| 21:32.43 | mr_nice | rp: I just want to inform you, that it now works :). I had to set both the DISTRO and the TARGET_OS variable. cya - and many thanks for such an great community :). This irc channel is very frendly to new users! |
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| 21:36.19 | greentux | koen|tv: i am not a germ, no, i am italy :) |
| 21:39.29 | lrg | koen|tv: videos have now been mentioned on lwn.... |
| 21:40.26 | greentux | lrg: end of day i want to say tnx to you and rp for the support @afternoon. all works perfect. good work! |
| 21:41.02 | lrg | greentux: np |
| 21:42.04 | greentux | lrg: watch from time to time: http://www.linux-kongress.org/2006/ |
| 21:43.29 | koen|tv | gcc 4.1 is out |
| 21:43.38 | koen|tv | which should have eabo support |
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| 21:43.55 | woglinde | whats eabo? |
| 21:45.26 | koen|tv | ooops |
| 21:45.29 | koen|tv | eabi that is |
| 21:45.47 | mreimer | yay |
| 21:46.15 | koen|tv | no matching glibc though |
| 21:51.12 | pH5 | koen|tv: what is missing? |
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| 21:56.48 | lrg | night all |
| 22:00.38 | zecke | http://cgi.ebay.de/miniLAMP-Linux-Distribution-fuer-Linksys-NSLU2_W0QQitemZ5871702247QQcategoryZ26808QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 22:00.42 | zecke | lol |
| 22:00.54 | zecke | rwhitby: just for some bucks you can buy Unslung on a USB stick |
| 22:01.38 | woglinde | zecke as usual |
| 22:03.36 | koen|tv | pH5: a glibc release with matching eabi bits |
| 22:06.07 | pH5 | koen: glibc 2.3.6 doesn't include those bits? |
| 22:07.06 | koen | pH5: afaik it doesn't |
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| 22:10.08 | koen | pH5: the gcc 4.1 from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/eabi/ needs an updated ldflags.patch |
| 22:10.10 | ArthurMaciel | hi there. |
| 22:10.21 | koen | hey ArthurMaciel |
| 22:10.31 | ArthurMaciel | are you, Ken Koen? |
| 22:10.51 | koen | no, I'm not Ken |
| 22:11.17 | zecke | ArthurMaciel: he is Klark Kent |
| 22:11.32 | ArthurMaciel | Oh, that's my nick name between my friends. |
| 22:13.04 | koen | zecke: and you are Bruce Wayne? |
| 22:13.13 | ArthurMaciel | guys, I'm trying to build an h2200 image, but it fails when trying to compile gettext. |
| 22:13.26 | ArthurMaciel | Is there any site where I can found corrections for these errors? |
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| 22:15.37 | zecke | koen: how did you find out |
| 22:16.46 | ArthurMaciel | who is Alfred here? |
| 22:18.23 | zecke | dunno haven't seen him in a while |
| 22:19.29 | CIA-12 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2968a65d... 10/conf/distro/angstrom.conf: angstrom: prefer softfloat till we get proper eabi |
| 22:20.10 | koen | zecke: I used my spidersense |
| 22:20.25 | ArthurMaciel | lol |
| 22:20.43 | ArthurMaciel | guys, any idea on gettext errors? |
| 22:20.49 | mreimer | koen: prefer softfloat to what? |
| 22:21.15 | koen | mreimer: hardfloat |
| 22:21.40 | koen | it now uses that hidious softfpa |
| 22:22.03 | mreimer | koen: so when we get eabi, each binary will get tagged with what kind of fp it uses? |
| 22:22.14 | zecke | ArthurMaciel: gettext errors in what sense? How to use gettext? compile it? |
| 22:22.21 | koen | mreimer: yes, and you can mix and match them at will |
| 22:22.34 | mreimer | ah ok |
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| 22:22.47 | koen | and stuff like iwmmx works |
| 22:22.59 | ArthurMaciel | yes, while compiling it. |
| 22:23.05 | mreimer | koen: in userland, or the kernel, or both? |
| 22:23.10 | koen | mreimer: both |
| 22:23.13 | mreimer | nice |
| 22:24.24 | woglinde | koen aehm that means you can use soft when you think its better than the hardfloat support? |
| 22:24.44 | koen | woglinde: yes, without apps suddenly crashing |
| 22:25.14 | woglinde | koen but then cpu hasnt fpu than there is nothing new |
| 22:25.37 | woglinde | then = when |
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| 22:35.59 | ArthurMaciel | please, could anyone take a look at http://rafb.net/paste/results/D17yuU86.html ? |
| 22:40.58 | Zero_Chaos | is there a place to browse the metadata online? |
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| 22:45.26 | Zero_Chaos | mickeyl|office: ping |
| 22:45.33 | Zero_Chaos | mickeyl|office: bug 658 |
| 22:49.58 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: yes |
| 22:50.05 | zecke | Zero_Chaos: viewmtn on ewi |
| 22:50.36 | Zero_Chaos | zecke: url? |
| 22:51.47 | zecke | monotone.vanille.de? |
| 22:52.18 | Zero_Chaos | ahh, thanks |
| 22:52.29 | zecke | it has a link to viewmtn |
| 22:53.06 | Zero_Chaos | An error has occurred |
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| 23:20.42 | RP | zecke: Do you think its reasonable to have the try_mirror function check for the file in DL_DIR first (as per http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_stash-r0.patch) ? |
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| 23:34.32 | zecke | let me take a look |
| 23:36.14 | zecke | RP: Isn't it checked somewhere else already? |
| 23:36.22 | zecke | RP: also what about the md5 file? |
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| 23:56.18 | RP | zecke: The way the git fetcher uses try_mirror, the check is needed and isn't covered elsewhere. The md5 file is a good question |
| 23:57.20 | RP | Well, its needed in that it makes things more efficient rather than having wget try and download the file which would fail if you were say offline |