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08:28.30Bernardogood morning
08:30.21_law_morning all
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08:31.07_law_any ideas why http://pastebin.com/486920 doesnt build?
08:31.35schurigFrohes neues Jahr | Happy New Year !
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09:10.06df00zHey.  2.6 working on poodle at all decently yet, or is there no one really working on it?
09:13.30RPdf00z: People have done bits and pieces now and again - I'd be interested for someone to do some testing...
09:17.13df00zI have a poodle, I'd be open to do some testing
09:17.27df00zit's basically a useless piece of garbage, everything is way too buggy on it and I regret buying it
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09:17.59do13_good morning and happy new year
09:21.49df00zRP: Oh well, lemmie know.  
09:26.48RPhi dirk, happy new year to you too
09:27.18RPdf00z: If you take OE and compile a 2.6 poodle kernel from it, you should have something that partly works
09:27.28RPI really don't know what the current status is
09:28.07df00zAh
09:31.21df00zI wonder if anyone patched up Opie's CVS, opie 1.2.0 also breaks a lot of stuff, and OZ switched to it a while ago back in 3.5.3.  Does OE have a bb for Opie CVS?
09:32.27RPIt builds from cvs if I recall correctly...
09:33.03RPWhat kind of "stuff" is broken?
09:33.50df00zHm
09:33.55df00zSuspend, and power management stuff
09:34.02df00zsuspend sometimes leaves the LCD and backlight on
09:34.29df00zdisable LCD instead of suspend in power management turns off the backlight and it wont go back on till you go into light and power again and turn up the light
09:34.36df00zprior to 1.2.0, all that worked fine
09:34.50RPHave you reported the problem?
09:35.06df00zBugzilla?  No, I probably should.  I just told a few people about it months ago
09:35.12df00zand I havent touched my Z since
09:35.26RPThese things can get forgotten about :-/
09:35.35df00zyeah :\  I'll check it out
09:35.50df00zI need to rebuild OE and everything again.
09:36.43df00zorinoco modules were pretty fubared too, I think mickey fixed that though
09:37.12df00zThey were trying to port 2.6.x modules or something back to the 2.4 kernel, I think, and it broke somewhere in between
09:37.17df00zand OZ 3.5.3 used that
09:37.25df00zSo you had to use OE to rebuild proper modules
09:38.07RPThe problem is we're switching to 2.6 kernels for a lot of the models and 2.4 is therefore getting a bit broken due to lack of users :-/
09:38.15df00zyeah.
09:38.17df00zAnd sharp sucks.
09:38.47df00zSeriously, they need to just make a gumstix PDA, heheh.
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09:42.48linnuxxyhi guys... i can get gdb for armv5b-softfloat-linux... "Error: target not supported by gdbserver." is there a method to overcome this?
09:44.28linnuxxyi cant get
09:44.30linnuxxy**
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09:51.52linnuxxyi need to build gdb for armv5b-softfloat-linux... i got the following error "Error: target not supported by gdbserver." ....is there a method to overcome this?
10:10.56hrw|workmorning in 2006
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10:18.35RPhi hrw|work
10:19.31linnuxxyi need to build gdb for armv5b-softfloat-linux... i got the following error "Error: target not supported by gdbserver." ....is there a method to overcome this?
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10:21.38df00zYou shouldn't be getting that..
10:22.01df00zWhat system are you trying to build?  OZ?
10:22.20df00zI built GDB for an armv5 with softfloat enabled before without a problem
10:22.38linnuxxyarmv5b
10:22.49linnuxxybig endian
10:27.23hrw|workdf00z: orinoco-modules 0.13e are for 2.4 kernels. 0.15 does not build with sharp 2.4 kernels at all
10:29.39df00zRight
10:29.47df00zwell whatever came with OZ 3.5.3 is totally broken
10:30.27df00zoh wait maybe .13e was broken
10:30.30df00zand i rebuilt .13s
10:30.32df00zand they worked again
10:30.52df00zI just remember having to use OE to rebuild the orinoco modules
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10:32.23hrw|workdf00z: could you test 3.5.4-rc on poogle?
10:32.57df00zYeah, will do
10:33.07df00zlemmie put it on an SD
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10:39.42hrw|workdf00z: I could build more up-to-date rc for you
10:42.41df00zHm
10:42.47df00zThat'll take a while though, wont it?
10:43.09df00zYou can, I'll try it out
10:43.22df00zI'm probably going to reinstall OE again soon
10:44.06CIA-203koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r3df0c396... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: familiar 0.8.3: make feeds more uniform
10:44.06df00zit's a PXA255, softfloat turned on by default now?
10:44.44hrw|workpoodle can be 250 or 255 - which one you have?
10:45.18df00zThe 255
10:45.38hrw|workby default it will get 250 kernel anyway
10:45.44df00zYeah
10:45.50df00zI always end up rebuilding a new kernel anyway
10:46.06df00zI think micky fixed one of the bugs tho that made me have to do that anyway
10:46.09hrw|workdf00z: opie or bootstrap?
10:46.11df00zbefore, if you held a direction, it goofed
10:46.12df00zopie
10:46.21df00zit'd suspend
10:46.24hrw|workok
10:46.25df00zand you wouldn't be able to wake it up
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10:46.35df00zso I had to disable user suspend in the kernel
10:46.44gremlin[it]mhh exist in the oe repository the 'setterm' ?
10:46.57hrw|workdf00z: that problem was fixed by martin in collie kernels and then ported to poodle/tosa by me
10:47.04df00zAh
10:47.20df00zCool, thanks for that :P
10:48.10hrw|worknp
10:48.17hrw|worktest -rc, join devtem
10:49.21df00zk got it on my SD, flashing
10:51.05df00zWere you going to build an opie for poodle?
10:51.53hrw|workkoen's buildmachine - ewi
10:52.29df00zk..3.5.4..lets see what happens :)
10:53.02df00zsoftfloat is enabled by default in OZ now, right?
10:54.13hrw|workyes
10:54.25df00zK, dont have an SD card in it when booting
10:54.49df00zOpie starts up in the wrong orientation, so you get a dialogbox saying an SD card was found but its cut off
10:55.03df00zlol, it should be fine once it's all done setting up though and knows the proper orientation
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10:57.34df00zk, orinoco works out of the box (intel 2011b card)
10:58.15df00zdeactivate LCD still broken(backlight shuts off, then is disabled till you go into light and power again)
10:58.30df00zprior to opie 1.2.0 it worked right
10:58.33df00zI'll file a bug
11:01.48df00z:( but I cant' get a mantis account or opie
11:01.56df00zI put in my email, it never sent
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11:12.55alan|laptopgood morning !
11:15.25df00zG'Morning.
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11:49.21df00zUm
11:50.43df00zhrw: check #openzaurus when you got a min >:|  Maybe I don't have 3.5.4 installed
11:52.12hrw|workok
11:55.28CIA-203koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r94e846c6... 10/packages/gtk+/ (15 files in 2 dirs): gtk+: add gtk+ 2.6.10 from .dev
11:55.33CIA-203koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ree659da2... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: gpe 2.7: prefer gtk+ 2.6.10
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12:14.21df00zOE should build opie-image fine if the distro is OZ 3.5.4 right?
12:14.27df00zim gonna head off to sleep
12:16.15hrw|workyes
12:18.34df00zAwesome, thanks.
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12:53.29linnuxxyi need to build gdb for armv5b-softfloat-linux... i got the following error "Error: target not supported by gdbserver." ....is there a method to overcome this?
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13:19.03gremlin[it]mhh how i can use terterm on a termina different that current one ?
13:19.26gremlin[it]s/terterm/setterm/
13:19.29linnuxxyi need to build gdb for armv5b-softfloat-linux... i got the following error "Error: target not supported by gdbserver." ....is there a method to overcome this?
13:19.40gremlin[it]linnuxxy i don't know ;(
13:19.50linnuxxy:((
13:19.59linnuxxyi will cry
13:20.25zeckepb_: hey
13:20.40hrw|worklinnuxxy: OE, machine with target_arch like 'armeb-linux', TARGET_FPU="soft" and then try?
13:20.43hrw|workhi zecke
13:21.16zeckepb_: isn't koen trustworthy enough to get write access to a CVS module?
13:25.36pb_hail zecke
13:26.28pb_I make no comment about how trustworthy koen is; the policy at handhelds.org has always been that you need endorsement from the appropriate project leader before being added to one of their groups.
13:31.10gremlin[it]grrrrrrrrrr ... the tty on framebuffer after a few became 'blank' ... how i can wakeup it ?!?!?!
13:31.45pb_setterm -blank off?
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13:34.02gremlin[it]pb_ yes but how i can 'redirect' setterm action ?
13:34.47gremlin[it]i'm working on ttySA0 ... and i have to wakeup framebuffer (tty0 or tty1 never remember)
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13:35.09CIA-203pH5 07org.oe.dev * r28f02050... 10/classes/autotools.bbclass: autotools.bbclass: use autotools_stage_all as default do_stage
13:35.13CIA-203pH5 07org.oe.dev * r2173c643... 10/packages/coreutils/coreutils-native_5.1.3.bb: coreutils-native: inherit native after autotools to overwrite do_stage
13:35.17CIA-203pH5 07org.oe.dev * r65af73a9... 10/packages/ (112 files in 69 dirs): autotooled packages: remove custom do_stage
13:38.59pb_gremlin[it]: setterm </dev/tty0 >/dev/tty0
13:39.09gremlin[it]thanks
13:39.48gremlin[it]don't work
13:40.15pb_oh dear
13:41.31gremlin[it]maybe it disable the banking ... but if it already off it remain ?
13:41.39zeckepb_: ah right
13:42.28pb_gremlin[it]: ah, yeah, could be
13:43.31gremlin[it]ok i reboot and issue the command ... now wait ;)
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13:53.08gremlin[it]pb_ don't work ... setterm work (inverse clear etc work) but the frambuffer blank just now ;(
13:54.43gremlin[it]maybe 'something' put the framebuffer (and not the tty) in powersave ?
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14:01.38linnuxxyi figured what was the problem....using this http://kegel.com/crosstool/crosstool-0.38/buildlogs/
14:02.05linnuxxyi have to use a spacific combination of componants
14:02.51linnuxxygcc-3.4.4, cgcc-3.4.4, glibc-2.3.5, binutils-2.15, linux-2.6.8, hdrs-2.6.11.2
14:04.35gremlin[it]mhh what's cgcc ... anh why kernel and kernel-headers have different version ?
14:13.10hrw|workgremlin[it]: why not?
14:14.04gremlin[it]mhh yes ok the userspac einterface remain about the same for long time ...
14:16.49pb_gremlin[it]: weird
14:16.58pb_I guess that would be a question for the kernel h4x0rs.
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14:20.25gremlin[it]h4x0rs ?
14:21.16pb_yeah.  RP, for example.
14:21.24pH5http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/faq/2004-July/000159.html
14:22.04gremlin[it]pb_  i mean i'm not able to rear / spelling the word h4x0rs :)
14:22.39gremlin[it]s/rear/dead/
14:23.04pb_dead?  crumbs
14:23.18gremlin[it]s/rear/read/
14:23.30pb_heh
14:23.42pb_"h4x0rs" = "hackers"
14:24.20gremlin[it]the bad think is that i write so bad also in italian ... isn't cause english isn't my language :) :) :)
14:24.47pb_hehe
14:25.56gremlin[it]tea time ... sencha (japane tea) ... :)
14:26.20hrw|workgremlin[it]: sencha with jasmine or without?
14:34.56chouimatmorning
14:38.49CIA-203rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re65da767... 10/packages/linux/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
14:38.50CIA-2linux-oz-2.6: Upgarde dev kernel to 2.6.15-rc7. ASoC updates from Liam and RP,
14:38.50CIA-2LED updates, akita backlight/lcd suspend/resume issue fix, pcmcia ids tidyup
14:38.50CIA-2ready for mainline. Add pxa27x usb client (udc) driver with CDC Ethernet support
14:38.50CIA-2for cxx00. RNDIS (windows) doesn't work at this time.
14:41.09hrw|work~hail RP
14:41.12ibotACTION bows down to RP and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
14:44.42hrw|workRP: that kernel has usb client for cxx00?
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15:25.56CIA-2handhelds-pxa-2.6: update hx4700 defconfig
15:25.56CIA-2- enable bluetooth led
15:25.56CIA-2- build gadgetfs and pcnet_cs
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15:32.11zeckere
15:32.39zeckeflorian: florian taylor claims to have complete monotone support
16:15.56RPhrw|work: It has usb client for cxx00 :)
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16:18.33hrw|workhttp://savannah.gnu.org/images/savannah.theme/floating.png ;)
16:19.40mickeylheh
16:20.20hrw|workhi mickeyl
16:20.29RPhi mickeyl
16:20.47hrw|work31 08:36 < jnc> there comes a time during the course of production, when it becomse necessary to shoot the engineers and ship the product
16:20.50hrw|work31 08:36 < jnc> that time is now for OZ 3.5.4
16:20.55RP(on cxx00)
16:21.09hrw|workthat quote is my favorite message from weekend irc logs
16:21.18hrw|work;)
16:22.07pb_shooting mickeyl seems a bit harsh
16:22.23RPhehe :)
16:22.52RPI don't suppose anyone has a logic analyser and a cxx00?
16:23.02mickeylhah
16:23.12mickeylhe's right though of course
16:23.25mickeylI have release images for everything but cxx00 prepared
16:23.30mickeyli just need time to do the final testing
16:23.33zeckemickeyl: hey
16:23.54mickeyloh and i would need someone to do ext2 images for the collie altboot
16:24.16mickeylRP: no i'm afraid not ;)
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16:24.54hrw|workmickeyl: for ext2 images... tag repository so I could build them on ewi
16:25.27mickeylyep
16:30.10hrw|workcurrent 3.5.4-rc works on collie (opie-image)
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16:32.10reenoo_afternoon
16:32.20pb_hi reenoo_
16:34.00hrw|workmickeyl: feeds uris are set to where?
16:34.49hrw|workbrb
16:37.09reenoo_hey pb_
16:37.38pb_bbiab
16:40.24mickeylhrw|work: oh uh. good question
16:40.38mickeylguess i will have to rebuild :)
16:40.58mickeylor did that global http forwarding you had in mind work out?
16:41.31hrw|workmickeyl: not made it - looks like all my attempt methods are blocked on sf
16:45.04hrw|workmickeyl: btw - oz.org is upgraded to current WordPress, registering is disabled. I also added your text on top of 'developers' page
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16:48.50mickeylhrw|work: ah cool. thanks
16:49.54mickeylok, so 3.5.4 feeds will point to http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4/*
16:50.07hrw|workmickeyl: yes
16:50.16mickeylk. i'll commit the latest .conf file to branch
16:50.42hrw|workmickeyl: we will have to talk with koen about mirroring OZ - we have atleast 2 mirrors
16:51.17hrw|workmickeyl: in .dev I propose change oz-3.5.4.conf -> oz-unstable.conf like in familiar
16:51.25mickeyl*nod*
16:51.44hrw|workwill take it
16:51.54mickeylthanks
16:52.10hrw|workmickeyl: feeds are in conf and in opie-image
16:55.25hrw|workDISTRO_VERSION = ".dev-snapshot-${DATE}"
16:55.36mickeylok
16:57.11mickeylthe world build should come from .dev?
16:57.15CIA-203mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r418dff90... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: prepare for release
16:57.19CIA-203mickeyl 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra2e9c5b9... 10/packages/meta/ (8 files): meta/image files: s/openzaurus.org/ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org
16:57.27hrw|workmickeyl: branch
16:57.50hrw|workmickeyl: it's release - we have branch for releases
16:57.58hrw|work.dev is for development
16:58.17mickeylright right
17:00.13hrw|workmickeyl: http://pastebin.com/487311
17:01.05hrw|workmickeyl: I'm also thinking about removing FEED_URIS from config/unstable
17:01.44hrw|workhttp://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/.dev-snapshot-20060103/feed/opie/ is useless
17:02.10hrw|workif someone build from .dev then (s)he knows what to do with deploy/ipk/
17:03.06hrw|workhttp://pastebin.com/487316 - refreshed
17:03.23hrw|workignore ;)
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17:14.41CIA-203hrw 07org.oe.dev * r521ba797... 10/conf/distro/ (3 files):
17:14.42CIA-2openzaurus: change version from 3.5.4 to 'unstable'
17:14.42CIA-2- OPIE CVS is now preferred instead of 1.2.1
17:14.42CIA-2- feeds uris are removed - if someone build from .dev then know what to do with packages
17:18.31hrw|workcu
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18:52.57_law_|iBookso i have to change openzaurus-3.5.4 to openzaurus-unstable?
18:53.28uv1Good evening all
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18:56.27uv1I have a problem creating an initrd with OE.
18:56.48uv1I have to use "mount -o loop ...", which is only possible as superuser.
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18:56.54uv1Is there a way arroung this ?
18:57.09uv1s/ung/und/
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18:57.28hrwhi
18:58.19_law_|iBookhi hrw
19:00.33uv1Do we have pakets as example, which do not use any autoconfig, qmake, ...m just use a preconfigured Makefile ?
19:01.31hrwuv1: do_compile() { oe_runmake } ones?
19:02.41hrwuv1: acpid
19:03.03uv1uv1: Dont know. I have to move existing SW packages without auto stuff into bitbake files.
19:03.14uv1hrw: checking acpid
19:04.21hrwbtw - acpid looks like need update-rc.d inherited
19:04.51uv1hrw: OK looks like worth a try ...
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19:05.08uv1hrw: Can you also help with ...
19:05.13uv1I have to use "mount -o loop ...", which is only possible as superuser.
19:05.25uv1Is there a way arround this ?
19:05.41hrwuv1: I dont know any
19:06.26uv1hrw: I want to build an initrd image during build process and need to loop mount this image.
19:06.56uv1hrw: As we work as non root users, this is a serious problem.
19:07.58hrwuv1: you cannot get this done before creating initrd?
19:09.06CosmicPenguinWhy do you need to loop mount it?
19:09.33uv1hrw: Dont know what you mean. "dd if=/dev/zero of=initrd bs=1M count=4;mke2fs initrd;mount -o loop initrd /mnt" and then copy all needed stuff into the image.
19:09.58uv1That required "mount", which is not possible as a non superuser (at least on my Debian and Suse system)
19:10.34CosmicPenguinwhats wrong with genext2fs?
19:11.05hrwexactly.. if there is a tool to generate ext2 images then why not use it?
19:11.16hrwOE create ext2 images with it
19:11.24uv1CosmicPenguin: to be able to copy linuxrc, thing like /bin/echo, /bin/sleep, modules ...
19:11.34CosmicPenguinagain - whats wrong with genext2fs?
19:11.50uv1CosmicPenguin: What does genext2fs do ?
19:11.55CosmicPenguinguess?
19:12.48uv1CosmicPenguin: Any docs available (or at least example packages) ?
19:13.16CosmicPenguinWell, OE uses it, when you specify the FSTYPE to be ext2
19:13.43CosmicPenguinand google is very useful
19:13.55CosmicPenguinhttp://genext2fs.sourceforge.net/
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19:14.46oris_wolfbaneuv1, What is genext2fs you ask? Simply, it generates an ext2 filesystem as a normal (i.e. non-root) user. It doesn't require you to mount the image file to copy files on it. It doesn't even require you to be the superuser to make device nodes or set group/user ids.
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19:15.37uv1Thanks for your comments. That'll help ;_))
19:15.47uv1Different question.
19:16.59uv1"cvs co" does require a dir structure "cvs/abc-x.y.z/abc". I have packages, which do not have the "abc" subdir.
19:17.10uv1Any hints to get arround this ?
19:17.32hrwmodule=.
19:17.41hrwwe had such packages in OE
19:17.43zecken
19:18.04hrwor something like that
19:18.35uv1zecke: n? "module=." does work ? does not ?
19:18.45hrwuv1: look at clucene/*.bb
19:21.06uv1hrw: Thanks, that enough stuff to do tomorrow. I possibly also have to extend bb rpm classes again. My collegues do strange things with rpm ...
19:21.17uv1Thanks a lot and see you tomorrow ...
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19:26.15CIA-203rw 07org.oe.dev * r0c952375... 10/conf/local.conf.sample: local.conf.sample: explain "versioned distros". replace reference to familiar-0.8.3 with familiar-unstable.
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19:32.12CosmicPenguinThat reminds me - I still want to hack genext2fs to setup the filesystem in a way that pleases extlinux
19:34.23hrwsomeone use suspend2 on desktop?
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19:57.30mickeylanyone ever seen libtool breaking bluetooth-nodbus ?
19:57.43mickeyl| ccache arm-linux-gcc -march=armv4 -mtune=xscale -I/local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -I/usr/include -I/local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -O2 -Wl,-rpath-link -Wl,/local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib -Wl,-O1 -o .libs/hcitool hcitool.o oui.o  -L/local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib -L/usr/lib /local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/stagi
19:57.43mickeyl| arm-linux-gcc: /local/pkg/oe/collie/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/.libs/libbluetooth.so: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
19:58.19hrwya. naturlich
19:58.30mickeylhow to fix that?
19:58.34mickeyland what's the cause?
19:58.40hrwI dont understand error message
19:58.51hrwLC_ALL=C is best for OE
19:58.52mickeyl<PROTECTED>
19:59.10hrwok
19:59.14hrwnever had it
19:59.18mickeylhmm bummer
19:59.40mickeylso much for changing CVSDATE to something more recent
19:59.51hrwmickeyl: check does you build libusb before bluez or not..
20:00.12mickeylno, libusb is not built
20:01.05mickeyllibtool somehow misinterprets STAGING_LIBDIR as the point to look for a library
20:01.14hrwstrange...
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20:02.48chouimatzecke: how I use icecream with oe?
20:02.50mickeylthe only floating CVS packages are ipkg-utils*
20:03.02zeckechouimat: INHERIT += "icecream"
20:03.08hrwfunny.. I'm watching 'bad girls' in TV and there are lot of 'hardware' shops
20:03.39chouimatzecke: ok thanks
20:03.50gremlin[it]!!!
20:03.50cdbotgremlin[it]: Dunno?
20:04.57zeckechouimat: there might be some more options
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20:06.44PigiCiao all
20:07.01pb_hi pigi
20:07.09Pigihi pb_ !
20:07.53Pigidid you discovered any new bug^H^H^H feature recently ;) ?
20:08.18pb_hehe
20:08.21pb_no, not recently :-)
20:08.29Pigigood. :)
20:09.00pb_did you have any further thoughts about this Replaces: thing?
20:09.18pb_as far as I could tell with my testcase, Replaces: (without Conflicts:) has no effect at all
20:09.31PigiNo, just looked trough the code, and it doesn't seems to be wrong.
20:09.51PigiApologize for my bad understanding, this means it works or it's broken ?
20:09.59pb_It's broken
20:10.12Pigigood ( well bad... )
20:10.43PigiI'm reading your mail just now.....
20:11.26pb_The theory is that Replaces on its own should allow a package to overwrite files belonging to another package without causing an error.  (It also needs to make sure that the file lists are updated to reflect the fact that the old package no longer owns those files.)
20:12.17pb_see... http://www.us.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces
20:12.26Pigibut what should happen to the "replaced" package ? Should it be removed or just be left there ?
20:13.12pb_Just left there.
20:13.27Pigiyeah. Just reading now.
20:13.28pb_It should only be removed if the new package also says that it Conflicts with the old one.
20:13.57PigiI should find a couple of packages in opie environment to test the baheviour.
20:14.10pb_good plan
20:14.17chouimatzecke: I'm tired to wait after the openslug compile :)
20:14.19PigiThat's rather stange, as I'm sure I did the tests....
20:14.50pb_yeah, it is strange
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20:16.39pb_I'll now be known as pb_|kitchen for a short while.  bbiab.
20:16.44Pigipb_ where ( a part from oe ) can I get those two packages ( xserver-common and gep-scripts ) afayk ?
20:16.54Pigigosh, too late :)
20:19.40CosmicPenguinchouimat: you're actually compiling something?
20:22.18reenoo_Pigi: http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/feed/ for the new packages. and http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/feed/x11/ for the old gpe-session package
20:22.57Pigireenoo_, thx, as those in ipkgfind aren't replacers....
20:23.40reenoo_Pigi: well. you may still have to add the Replaces: field
20:24.18reenoo_Pigi: to xserver-common*.ipk
20:24.32Pigisure, but we need to be sure that those from feed ( and oe too ) are good, before I open again those ( not so sympathic ) part of code
20:28.39reenoo_like I said, xserver-common probably doesn't have the Replaces: field because that doesn't result in the desired behaviour right now. you will need to manually add it for testing purposes.
20:28.48hrw|tvbye
20:28.57Pigireenoo_, ok.
20:29.34pb_yeah, what reenoo said
20:29.39Pigireenoo_, just to be sure: xserver-common replace gpe-session-scripts, right ?
20:29.55pb_just ipkg-unbuild xserver-common, edit CONTROL/control to add "Replaces: gpe-session-scripts", then ipkg-build it again
20:30.06Pigisure.
20:36.52zeckeRP: no more prominent place?
20:37.14RPzecke: Have you any suggestions?
20:37.47zeckeRP: no
20:38.41RPzecke: mentioning it in the changelog is fine for now. We can always rethink it if OH makes any more significant code contributions
20:39.51zeckeright
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21:05.37dan2003ive not being able to build for a few weeks now, always fails at gcc-cross-4.0.2-r1 with oninline.h:121: error: cannot convert 'const __ctype_touplow_t*' to 'const int*' in assignment
21:05.39CosmicPenguinheh
21:05.50CosmicPenguinbitbake -i doesn't warn you when the critical variables aren't set
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21:06.49CosmicPenguinI guess I had gotten used to that - because i couldn't figure out for the life of me why binutils was failing
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21:11.50Pigipb_, ping
21:11.58alan|homehi all
21:12.25pb_Pigi: at your service
21:13.18Pigiheh. I have just flashed a gpe image, but on this image ( 20060102 ) both xserver-common and gpe-sessio-script are installed.
21:13.30PigiIs this correct or I'm missing something ?
21:14.11Pigi(sometimes I feel really dumb ) heh
21:16.45pb_Pigi: hm, that is rather odd
21:16.47PigiI suspect it would have been better to flash a 0.8.2....
21:16.52pb_yeah
21:17.03pb_oh, right, yeah, I understand
21:17.11pb_the 0.8.3 versions of those packages don't conflict.
21:17.42pb_the problem is that xserver-common is a new package in 0.8.3, which includes some of the files that were previously (0.8.2) in gpe-session-scripts
21:18.01pb_so, the case we were worried about was an 0.8.2 user typing "ipkg upgrade"
21:18.13PigiI see. So I should flash a 0.8.2 .... downloading ....
21:19.10pb_right
21:19.17reenoo_~lart vim for displaying some (not all) prolog files with perl syntax highlighting
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21:29.11jsun_hi -
21:32.07jsun_has anybody hit this problem?  My build stopped at the final do_rootfs stage:
21:32.09jsun_| + ipkg-cl -f /home/jsun/build/oe/build/tmp/work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/jsun/build/oe/build/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap
21:32.36jsun_apparently there is no package for task-bootstrap built.
21:32.46jsun_the direction is empty
21:33.06jsun_rebuilding task-bootstrap was successful.
21:33.28jsun_I am not sure what is *supposed* to happen here.
21:33.34pb_check your DISTRO.
21:34.02jsun_should there be a task-bootstrap package?
21:34.33pb_yeah
21:34.45jsun_DISTRO = "familiar-0.8.3"
21:35.02jsun_sorry for being dumb -what should I check?
21:35.03pb_do you have a familiar-0.8.3.conf in conf/distro/?
21:35.11jsun_hold on -
21:36.18jsun_I used the snapshot from dec 27 - there is familiar.conf and familiar-unstable.conf under conf/distro
21:36.53pb_then you will have to set DISTRO to "familiar-unstable" or "familiar".
21:36.58jsun_at this point I *just* want to be build *an image*.  Is there any other distro known to work better?
21:37.06jsun_OK, I can try that too.
21:37.30jsun_which distro is considered more stable?
21:38.02pb_not sure.  I think "familiar-unstable" is probably the most likely to work.
21:38.30jsun_thanks - other than familiar distro, is there any one (ones) considered stable?
21:38.45pb_I'm sure there are, but I don't know which ones.
21:39.19jsun_(this might be dumb question too) can one build an image without a distro?
21:39.27reenoo_jsun_: are you subscribed to oe@handhelds.org? if not I'd recommend you do that now and read the archives at gmane.org
21:39.41jsun_reenoo_, thanks.
21:39.45jsun_I will do that right now.
21:40.34pb_no, you can't build an image without a distro
21:44.54jsun_hmm - unless I am seriously careless, I don't seem to find the mailing list subscription link on the oe wiki site.
21:44.57jsun_any pointer?
21:45.53RPHave a look on handhelds.org  - its address is oe@handhelds.org
21:45.55jsun_ok - found it.
21:46.10jsun_it is mentioned in getting started page.
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21:57.58PigiI wonder if this replace thing has never worked.
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22:01.43Pigipb_ I think I found the problem.
22:11.42alan|homethere is a little problem with matchbox bb file. It tries to retrive a source file from http://<url> while it should be svn://<url>. Can anyone correct this or should i open a bug report ?
22:13.52pb_Pigi: aha
22:14.30Pigipb_ can you read my just sent mail to discuss it a bit ...
22:15.44RPalan|home: Which matchbox bb file exactly?
22:20.41pb_Pigi: hm, yeah, that code does look pretty broken
22:20.49Pigiheh.
22:21.05pb_Pigi: it seems suspicious that replacee_provides[] is set to pkg->provides, not replacee->provides
22:21.16pb_and likewise for replacee_provides_count
22:22.03pb_It looks like changing those two variables would probably make it work a bit better.
22:22.06Pigiright.
22:22.30pb_~lart jamey
22:22.38Pigiheh
22:22.48pb_ah, harsh lart there
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22:24.39pb_Pigi: so, if you fix that, does the testcase work correctly?
22:25.00Pigipb_ just testing.
22:28.05Pigipb_ yes, so it seems
22:28.36Pigibasically I have commented out :
22:28.38Pigi<PROTECTED>
22:28.38Pigi<PROTECTED>
22:29.23Pigiand changed the test :          for (j = 0; j < replaces_count; j++) {
22:29.24Pigi<PROTECTED>
22:29.24Pigi<PROTECTED>
22:29.43Pigi( so changing the test from replace_provides to replaces.
22:30.27Pigiand at least I don't get the "conflicting" stuffs. I haven't installed it by real BTW.
22:30.40alan|homeRP : mmm... didn't check it yet. Just tried to run a bitbake gpe-image. Translating OZ docs to french for now, so i'll check latter, but if you find out, let me know.
22:31.05pb_hm, I'm not sure that's quite the right thing.
22:31.32pb_abstract_replacee is set to replaces[i], so I fear the test you implemented will always be true
22:31.44pb_I think you want to be testing against replacee->provides[]
22:32.23Pigiyeah. you are right. I think I'm too tired ATM :)
22:34.16PigiI need a gdb atm. heh
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22:40.14Pigipb_ something like this, then :                if (replacee->provides[j] == abstract_replacee)
22:41.32Pigibut there should be something wrong yet, as the file owner did not change.
22:42.43PigiI mean, the tests are all right, but "/etc/X11/Xinit.d/30xTs_Calibrate" is still in gpe-session-scripts.list , while, if I have understood correctly, should be in xserver-common.list
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22:51.45pb_yeah
22:51.58pb_if the file owners aren't changed, there will be disaster when gpe-session-scripts is uninstalled
22:52.07Pigiabsolutelly.
22:53.25PigiI will hunt it tomorrow, as now I HAVE to go to sleep. Tomorrow mornig my wake-up call is a 0600 AM :(
22:55.57Pigig'nite all
22:56.14alan|homeRP: "SRC_URI = "http://projects.o-hand.com/..." in matchbox-wm_0.9.5.bb leads to "svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk/matchbox-window-manager'" error.
22:56.51alan|homeRP: can you correct this or should i open a bug repport ?
22:58.37alan|homemmm... wait a minute... maybe i'm saying something wrong...
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23:01.15alan|homemmm... i don't understand... it's not writen anywhere to use svn in matchbox-wm_0.9.5.bb...
23:01.36alan|homeyet i have "NOTE: package matchbox-wm-0.9.5+cvs-20060102: failed"
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23:02.50alan|homerhaaa... i don't understand...
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23:10.06reenoo_alan|home: I guess you want to be looking at matchbox-wm_svn.bb
23:18.36alan|homereenoo_: that is what i did, but then i don't see why svn complains about a wrong url...
23:19.56alan|homei see "SRC_URI = "svn://svn.o-hand.com/repos/matchbox/trunk;module=matchbox-window-manager"... does the error come from the proto parameter ?
23:24.06alan|homeok... lmook like it does come from the proto. if i remove this part, i have a 404 error. Not good, but better...
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23:26.46alan|homei really do not understand anything to bb files...
23:27.07alan|homethey are _much_ over my knowledge...
23:35.50alan|homeplus i need to sleep, it's late. Good night gentlemen.
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