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| 00:41.33 | StarKruzr | can someone tell me if the feeds are broken by default (i.e. right after install) under 3.5.3? I seem to be able to update the package list but when I try to install anything either from the command line or from the Opie package manager tool, it hangs. after about 5 minutes it'll say "Terminated." on the command line, but the package management tool will just sit there forever. |
| 00:42.09 | StarKruzr | (bear in mind this is a fresh install of 3.5.3 on an SL-5600 |
| 00:42.10 | StarKruzr | ) |
| 00:43.20 | StarKruzr | er, 55 |
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| 01:54.51 | StarKruzr | well, I figured out what the problem was. there is apparently no room in root |
| 01:54.54 | StarKruzr | 1.4KB |
| 01:55.04 | StarKruzr | from the get-go |
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| 02:16.00 | v8jlene | StarKruzr: Hehe... very annoying that I imagine ;) |
| 02:17.34 | StarKruzr | dude |
| 02:17.36 | StarKruzr | check this out |
| 02:17.51 | StarKruzr | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16091 |
| 02:18.40 | StarKruzr | I think on OZ 3.2 it was like 59%? something like that, maybe less |
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| 02:24.37 | v8jlene | No idea... I'm not working with any of the standard builds/devices. |
| 02:25.41 | StarKruzr | v8jlene: someone theorized that flashing does not actually remove data from root. do you know of a way to wipe out root explicitly? |
| 02:25.45 | StarKruzr | cd /mnt |
| 02:25.46 | StarKruzr | ls |
| 02:25.48 | StarKruzr | oops |
| 02:25.48 | StarKruzr | heh |
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| 02:30.22 | StarKruzr | root is jffs2, right? |
| 02:30.34 | StarKruzr | is there a command to initiate garbage collection manually, maybe? |
| 02:30.47 | StarKruzr | (I tried sync, but it laughed at me) |
| 02:31.56 | v8jlene | StarKruzr: As I said I'm using a different device. Mine has a translation layer over the flash to make it look like a normal disk (so I just use fdisk to setup partitions and then run ext3 on it). So I can't really offer much help.. |
| 02:33.04 | StarKruzr | That would be a beautiful, beautiful thing. |
| 02:33.30 | StarKruzr | sadly I cannot afford a new Z |
| 02:33.51 | v8jlene | StarKruzr: And there's usually not many other's around here at this time of day (or night I guess!). It starts to get busy in about 8hrs time... |
| 02:35.29 | v8jlene | StarKruzr: The downside is that it does more writing to the flash and will wear it out quicker. I think I would have preffered jffs2 over mtd! |
| 02:36.15 | StarKruzr | v8jlene: I heard somewhere that it would take ~7 years even with fairly active writing to wear it out |
| 02:37.18 | memeruiz | (with a memory corruption one can do it in 10 minuntes) :S |
| 02:37.25 | StarKruzr | heh |
| 02:37.45 | StarKruzr | disclaimer: that was the statistic for "normal usage" |
| 02:40.21 | v8jlene | Could be, can't say I've really looked ;) I worry about ext3 writing update timestamps and stuff all the time! And I'm building a device to go into remote locations for transmisison equipment monitoring - 7yrs sounds a bit short for such a project ;) |
| 02:40.34 | v8jlene | Really looked at the exact figures that is... |
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| 03:09.08 | v8jlene | \me Wonders why there are "net", "network" and "console/network" sections... |
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| 05:11.31 | StarKruzr | hey kergoth. you available at the moment? |
| 05:12.41 | kergoth | somewhat. if you have an oz or oe question, dont bother asking me. i havent touched oz in over a year, and oe in a good 6 months |
| 05:26.34 | StarKruzr | okay. |
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| 07:09.30 | CIA-3 | 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rd91acc33... 10/: |
| 07:09.30 | CIA-3 | nslu2-kernel: upgrade to 2.6.14.2 |
| 07:09.30 | CIA-3 | nslu2-kernel: add (only semi working) 2.6.15-rc1 |
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| 07:30.50 | alan|home | morning |
| 07:33.22 | freethinker | morning alan |
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| 08:26.49 | koobla | morning all! |
| 08:28.57 | alan|home | morning koobla |
| 08:37.22 | XorA | morning |
| 08:44.40 | freethinker | morning xora |
| 08:45.20 | alan|home | yop XorA |
| 08:45.37 | alan|home | XorA: e17 is on my 750 ^^ |
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| 08:50.07 | koobla | anyone had a look at the GettingStarted wiki page? |
| 08:50.14 | koobla | seems it got spammed |
| 08:50.26 | alan|home | is oembedded.org back online ? |
| 08:50.39 | koobla | no / looked at oe.handhelds.org |
| 08:51.21 | freethinker | koobla : it cannot to connect. |
| 08:51.46 | koobla | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 08:52.20 | alan|home | looks like it has been hacked... |
| 08:52.32 | koobla | looking at http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/RecentChanges |
| 08:52.48 | koobla | should get all changes |
| 08:53.20 | alan|home | pffff.... |
| 08:53.42 | koobla | google has some pages chached? |
| 08:54.07 | XorA | theres a way to fix it, but I cant remeber how :-( |
| 08:54.09 | alan|home | i think so |
| 08:54.21 | XorA | you can revert the pages, but I dont know how to drive moinmoin |
| 08:55.23 | koobla | in the recent changes page, theres an info button |
| 08:57.38 | koobla | seems there have been several rollbacks recently :( |
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| 08:57.54 | RP | morning all |
| 08:58.07 | koobla | hI! |
| 08:58.27 | XorA | hey RP |
| 08:58.33 | freethinker | morning RP. |
| 08:59.03 | freethinker | RP:I dont know whether the SL-C3000 support hard disk device cache. |
| 08:59.44 | freethinker | ( spitz | oz-3.5.4 | kernel-2.6.14 | SL-C3000 ) |
| 09:00.08 | freethinker | RP:any ideas.? |
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| 09:04.05 | hrw|work | hi |
| 09:04.20 | XorA | hey hrw|work |
| 09:06.16 | RP | hi hrw|work |
| 09:06.29 | hrw|work | power outage in building == no logs from weekend |
| 09:06.31 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 09:06.43 | RP | freethinker: The Linux ide code should just work with the cache |
| 09:07.13 | RP | hrw|work: You missed me getting annoyed by rmk (again) ;-) |
| 09:07.24 | RP | hrw|work: but its worked out in the end... |
| 09:07.50 | hrw|work | good |
| 09:10.41 | hrw|work | getting to work after 3 day weekend is ... argh |
| 09:13.29 | freethinker | RP:But my hard disk only has 8M per second. |
| 09:13.54 | Noodles | It's on an ISA bus effectively. |
| 09:14.20 | Noodles | (At least, that's what I understand CF to be similar to - original PCMCIA, right?) |
| 09:14.45 | hrw|work | freethinker: 8M/s in what kind of device? |
| 09:15.06 | RP | freethinker: Did you get a much faster speed under 2.4? |
| 09:15.06 | Noodles | hrw|work: spitz | oz-3.5.4 | kernel-2.6.14 | SL-C3000 |
| 09:15.10 | Noodles | (From before you joined) |
| 09:17.01 | hrw|work | 8M is lot. I have much less from cf card in c760 |
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| 09:18.16 | freethinker | hrw: in my CF card |
| 09:19.05 | hrw|work | I remember 0.6M -> 1.3M -> 2.5M steps when using Amiga with ATA disc.. |
| 09:19.15 | freethinker | RP: it has almost same speed under 2.4kernel. |
| 09:21.52 | RP | freethinker: I think its likely to be running as fast as its ever going to then... |
| 09:22.09 | RP | I'm sure it will be using the cache unless you can prove otherwise? |
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| 09:22.41 | RP | morning koen |
| 09:23.06 | koen | hey RP |
| 09:23.08 | freethinker | RP:thanks :) |
| 09:24.03 | freethinker | hrw: thank you a lot |
| 09:25.31 | hrw|work | hi koen |
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| 09:30.04 | hrw|work | collie discussions are in KernelTraffic |
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| 09:30.48 | zecke | hey |
| 09:30.56 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
| 09:31.00 | zecke | *idiots* ... |
| 09:31.06 | koen | hey hrw|work & zecke |
| 09:31.07 | zecke | searching in a Makefile for .exe... |
| 09:31.35 | zecke | *idiots*... they should not take a system security class if they do not even know some bits of Unix... |
| 09:34.34 | hrw|work | zecke: students? |
| 09:34.51 | zecke | yes ;) |
| 09:34.57 | zecke | but moron students |
| 09:35.09 | zecke | "now we need to find out how to create a file..." |
| 09:35.34 | zecke | actually I shut up as I was too dumb to finish my math assignment... |
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| 09:45.44 | greentux | morning |
| 09:51.38 | hrw|work | morning greentux |
| 09:52.47 | greentux | hrw|work: which machine i have to use in BB for borzoi? can u sen dme your local.conf? |
| 09:52.54 | do13 | morning all |
| 09:53.09 | greentux | morning |
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| 09:58.41 | hrw|work | greentux: borzoi |
| 09:59.54 | greentux | hrw|work: ok and distr = openzaurus-3.5.4 (for latest) |
| 10:00.08 | hrw|work | iirc yes |
| 10:00.15 | hrw|work | hi Dirk |
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| 10:01.39 | do13 | hi hrw|work |
| 10:04.31 | RP | hi dirk, greentux |
| 10:05.27 | greentux | RP: morning, usually your patches are in the repository? when i use machine=borzoi they will be included? |
| 10:05.44 | do13 | hi richard |
| 10:19.01 | do13 | RP: do you have 2.6.15-rc1 running? |
| 10:21.23 | hrw|work | greentux: they will |
| 10:22.16 | greentux | hrw|work: ok a start with building a simple "nano" :) perhaps, i have a working wpa_supplicant in the evening... |
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| 10:24.39 | hrw|work | greentux: what was a problem with wpa_supplicant? |
| 10:25.27 | greentux | hrw|work: the latest stable doesnt work with with 2.6.14 wireless extensions... there are many changes |
| 10:25.51 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:26.10 | greentux | hrw|work: i talked with the author and he recommend to use latest devel. so i will check that asap |
| 10:32.12 | hrw|work | hi lardman |
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| 10:51.20 | greentux | do13: do you read the 2.5.15-rc1 changelog? |
| 10:52.06 | lardman|work | hi hrw|work |
| 10:52.59 | do13 | greentux: which part of the changelog? |
| 10:54.12 | greentux | do13: the "grep purdie changelog" part :) i think he has 2.6.15-r1 running ... |
| 10:55.31 | RP | do13: Yes, I've had 2.6.15-rc1 running on spitz |
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| 10:56.16 | do13 | RP: could you send me the bb- file |
| 10:56.29 | do13 | RP: I need to update my patches |
| 10:56.39 | RP | do13: If you're trying for it on tosa, you'll probably need the revert-bootmem patch which I've not updated yet |
| 10:58.18 | do13 | RP: Yep, this patch doesn't apply (and a few others) |
| 11:00.33 | RP | do13: I'm still working on a .bb file which sorts all the problems. This isn't an easy rediff... |
| 11:01.49 | hrw|work | OT: dejavu fonts version 2.0 going into OE |
| 11:05.11 | hrw|work | in moments like this I feel that source archive would be useful (currently _pliki/oe/files/ dir takes 76M) |
| 11:11.00 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7ba18936... 10/: DejaVu fonts: updated to version 2.0 (both TrueType and QPF versions) |
| 11:11.36 | RP | do13: I'll have an updated .bb for you shortly (with several patches missing) |
| 11:12.09 | _law_ | any ideas why gpsdrive doesnt build? http://pastebin.com/428854 |
| 11:14.41 | do13 | RP: thanks |
| 11:17.23 | lardman|work | _law_: are the assembler instructions def for ARM? |
| 11:17.48 | _law_ | lardman|work, how can i check this? |
| 11:18.25 | lardman|work | _law_: no idea, but this seems to be a likely source of the error |
| 11:18.56 | do13 | _law_: fldcw assembler instructions looks like x86 code |
| 11:19.09 | RP | do13: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/linux-openzaurus_2.6.14+2.6.15-rc1-git2.bb |
| 11:19.11 | koen | some bozo but /usr/include in the -I path for gpsdrive |
| 11:19.17 | koen | s/but/put/ |
| 11:19.45 | RP | do13: I'm not touched the ipaq code or the bootmem patch yet but I will sort them. You should be able to rediff against what's there... |
| 11:20.09 | do13 | RP: thanks. I'll look into this. |
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| 11:22.36 | RP | do13: I removed the tosa patches I knew had been merged, I've put the others into the tosa section until you can sort out what's needed and rediff them |
| 11:23.40 | do13 | RP: I'am working on this. |
| 11:31.28 | _law_ | koen, so this is only a problem with the .bb file? |
| 11:31.43 | koen | _law_: no, with the developers |
| 11:37.47 | hrw|work | koen: I plan to push directly to oz354fam083 branch two things: kdepimpi 2.2.5 (qte only) and dejavu fonts 2.0 |
| 11:38.27 | koen | hrw|work: go ahead |
| 11:38.40 | koen | hrw|work: you can push (tested) opie updates too if you want |
| 11:39.05 | hrw|work | koen: sure - but first things which cannot be done via #350 |
| 11:39.54 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6f7e5a3e... 10/: |
| 11:39.55 | CIA-3 | xserver kdrive 20050207: sync with .dev |
| 11:39.55 | CIA-3 | * add faster rotated patch for devices where fb orientation does not match screen rotation |
| 11:39.55 | CIA-3 | * apply apm hack to some more machines |
| 11:40.30 | koen | are the 2.6 cxxxx images built from .dev or from the branch? |
| 11:42.10 | RP | koen: yes |
| 11:42.23 | koen | ? |
| 11:42.30 | RP | koen: no other choice as the support is missing in the release branch |
| 11:42.55 | RP | koen: I need to talk to mickeyl about it... |
| 11:43.45 | RP | (That's yes, they're built from the .dev branch in case anyone is confused - I am :) |
| 11:47.15 | koen | monotone: 313.2 k | 101.0 k | 388 | 77 | 1 |
| 11:47.56 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rba703e26... 10/: DejaVu fonts: updated to version 2.0 (both TrueType and QPF versions) |
| 11:48.25 | koen | RP: I asked because of #458 |
| 11:50.41 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ree5e53fb... 10/: kdepimpi: updated to 2.2.5 (current stable) |
| 12:07.31 | RP | koen: There was a spitz 2.6 image released from the release branch but its probably missing the xserver apm patch. The spitz kernel in .dev is much improved |
| 12:08.57 | koen | RP: I just updated kdrive in the branch |
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| 12:25.42 | greentux | hrw|meeting: tried bluetooth, but doenst work. if you are back we can tolk about that |
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| 12:43.54 | _law_ | koen, removed -I/usr/include http://pastebin.com/428903 |
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| 12:47.37 | koen | _law_: looks like a missing #include "something.h" |
| 12:47.45 | koen | gpsdrive cvs is a *huge* mess |
| 12:48.10 | greentux | wpa_supplicant latest devel works very well! |
| 12:48.25 | greentux | version 0.4.6 |
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| 12:52.35 | RP | do13: revert_bootmem-r2.patch now works |
| 12:57.18 | greentux_alt | wpa2 (AES) also working. with d-link card |
| 12:57.46 | schurig | greentux_alt: which driver? hostap? |
| 12:57.49 | do13 | RP: thanks |
| 12:58.33 | schurig | greentux: which driver? hostap? |
| 12:58.40 | greentux_alt | schurig: yes hostap |
| 13:00.28 | schurig | greentux_alt: I've WPA-PSK running with some HERMES2 based chip, but the driver from Agere sucks and is basically unmaintained. Need to look for a better card. |
| 13:00.35 | schurig | greentux_alt: which D-Link are you using? |
| 13:01.19 | greentux_alt | schurig:dcf-66w |
| 13:01.55 | greentux_alt | schurig: dcf-660w |
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| 13:19.00 | Crofton|laptop | n #elinux |
| 13:22.23 | greentux | schurig. which one do u have? |
| 13:22.38 | schurig | Artem CC CF b H2 STD |
| 13:22.52 | schurig | greentux: don't use this Artem card ! :-) |
| 13:22.59 | greentux | d-link is available at trisoft f.e. |
| 13:23.20 | greentux | du u have a bluetooth card? |
| 13:23.31 | schurig | greentux: no, this is a CF one |
| 13:23.50 | schurig | greentux: in one of my devices I have a Bluetooth module built in, at a serial port |
| 13:24.07 | greentux | which device u are using? |
| 13:24.31 | schurig | greentux: the one with Bluetooth is called "MNCI Ramses", but currently I work on something smaller |
| 13:24.44 | schurig | greentux: http://www.holgerschurig.de/ramses.html |
| 13:27.24 | greentux | something todo with kernel concepts? |
| 13:27.58 | schurig | greentux: no, not really. I've seen Florian once or twice, that's all |
| 13:28.37 | schurig | greentux: at some exhibition or Linuxtag, don't know it any more :-) |
| 13:29.27 | schurig | my current device is just for mobile telnet usage, so it has only PXA, 32 MB Flash, 64 MB SDRAM, WLAN, keyboard, barcode scanner. But being the newer device, it's based on Linux 2.6 :-) |
| 13:30.38 | schurig | makes it much cheaper, but less versatile. It's also smaller and weights less. |
| 13:31.14 | schurig | and my operation time with one fully charged accu is now about 8 hours (one work shift) |
| 13:31.16 | greentux | schurig: mnci-rx also linux supported? |
| 13:31.35 | schurig | greentux: sure, only Linux supported. it's on the web site I posted. |
| 13:32.02 | schurig | greentux: "Software offerings:" ... "Linux kernel (version 2.4.2x)" ... "Any customer can get all of this (and more) in source code." :-) |
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| 13:50.20 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:04.47 | hrw|work | re |
| 14:07.13 | greentux | is a bootloader available for oz? so i can decide which kernel to boot? |
| 14:08.20 | koen | no, the bootloader is closed source and practically irreplacable |
| 14:08.43 | greentux | ok, so i can try the new build kernel, if not working -> reflash? |
| 14:08.55 | koen | yes |
| 14:09.05 | koen | the sharp loader has a rescue kernel in flash |
| 14:09.25 | greentux | how to activate? b+d keys? |
| 14:09.44 | koen | standard reflash method |
| 14:10.01 | koen | no idea which on that is on a borzoi |
| 14:10.24 | greentux | ok, understand. |
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| 14:28.25 | hrw|work | RP: Pavel will get tcx3106 connector - have someone who will make serial cable for him. |
| 14:35.37 | RP | hrw|work: That's good news. He's our best chance of Collie support :) |
| 14:36.09 | hrw|work | now I have to dig out all that 'howto make serial cable' ;) |
| 14:36.33 | hrw|work | I made one and dont plan to make more (cwiis got it) |
| 14:37.01 | RP | hrw|work: You have one yourself as well? |
| 14:37.25 | hrw|work | RP: no - plan to make one but with my shaking hands and tiny of connector I gave up |
| 14:37.50 | RP | hrw|work: :-( |
| 14:39.16 | hrw|work | RP: maybe now when I have to send one to Pavel I will take care and send few to friend which will solder it for me |
| 14:39.42 | hrw|work | RP: do you know who should get serial cable too? |
| 14:40.47 | RP | hrw|work: Good question. I'm not really aware of anyone else who really needs one... |
| 14:41.13 | RP | I'm annoyed with my erial lead as it only works one way on spitz :-/ |
| 14:42.13 | hrw|work | Pavel = collie (will get), John Lenz = collie/poodle (mia), c7x0 = RP (have), cxx00 = RP (have), tosa = Dirk (have) |
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| 14:42.20 | hrw|work | did I miss something? |
| 14:42.24 | hrw|work | or someone? |
| 14:42.52 | hrw|work | RP: iirc zecke got tosa to help with kernel porting.. I dont know does he has serial cable or not. |
| 14:43.22 | RP | hrw|work: No, I think that sums it up (mickely will have one I guess?). Yes, zecke might be useful - depends what he plans to do with tosa... |
| 14:43.50 | hrw|work | iirc mickeyl have one |
| 14:44.09 | do13 | RP: Maybe we have some fun with the JTAG pins on the connector :) |
| 14:45.00 | RP | do13: I've often wondered about that :) |
| 14:46.58 | hrw|work | RP: spitz -> pc works, pc -> spitz not? |
| 14:47.37 | RP | hrw|work: correct - the voltage levels are all wrong |
| 14:47.57 | hrw|work | RP: you have simple wires only? |
| 14:48.12 | do13 | RP: which cable do you have? sharp or serialio |
| 14:48.16 | RP | hrw|work: I need to run some tests on my lead - I'm not sure if it has resistors built into it or not |
| 14:48.20 | RP | Its a serialio |
| 14:48.24 | hrw|work | ah.. |
| 14:49.36 | RP | If it has no resistors, I'll build a level convertor... |
| 14:51.00 | hrw|work | RP: max232? |
| 14:51.55 | RP | hrw|work: I think that was 5V and I'll need 3.3V but something like that, yes |
| 14:52.03 | greentux | rp: where to get pxa_serial_hack? |
| 14:52.07 | Crofton|laptop | I'm trying to build a bb file for some local sw that uses autotools |
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| 14:52.20 | Crofton|laptop | but I keep getting the message nothing to configure. |
| 14:52.39 | hrw|work | Crofton|laptop: check does "S" is correct set |
| 14:52.39 | greentux | rp: i need the fileressources from your bb file... |
| 14:52.53 | Crofton|laptop | doh |
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| 14:53.15 | RP | greentux: Those file:// patches are included in OE |
| 14:53.44 | Crofton|laptop | thanks, senior moment .... |
| 14:54.08 | greentux | rp:i tried the 2.6.14-git3 for your 2.6.15.bb, but serial patch failed... |
| 14:54.50 | RP | greentux: Don't use the 2.6.15.bb file yet. That was just for Dirk's benefit |
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| 14:55.34 | greentux | rp: ok trying 2.6.14... |
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| 15:35.05 | hrw|work | ~curse mc authors |
| 15:35.07 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mc authors ! |
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| 15:48.38 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r34e46884... 10/: wpa-supplicant: Add missing patch to versions 0.3.6 and 0.3.8 |
| 15:48.42 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0755e18c... 10/: |
| 15:48.42 | CIA-3 | gdb 6.3: Add hack to remove references to arm mapping symbols. These are used to |
| 15:48.42 | CIA-3 | mark boundaries between arm and thumb code but gdb 6.3 doesn't understand them |
| 15:48.42 | CIA-3 | so having it ignore them is preferable to corrupting the output. |
| 15:48.46 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * red5a7cf0... 10/: gcc: Add version 4.0.2. Known to at least compile code on softfloat arm. |
| 15:48.50 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0fa61bea... 10/: pcmcia-cs 3.2.8: gcc4 fixes |
| 15:48.54 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r730cfc68... 10/: openswan 2.2.0: gcc4 fixes |
| 15:50.18 | koen | RP: 4.0.2, cool |
| 15:50.34 | RP | I thought it might be liked :) |
| 15:50.48 | RP | no idea if images produced with it work yet mind... |
| 15:51.07 | koen | the downside is that you're now a toolchain export ;) |
| 15:51.30 | RP | koen: I was keeping quiet about knowing anything about them... |
| 16:00.50 | koen | hmmm |
| 16:00.57 | koen | still no mention of eabi in 4.0.2 |
| 16:02.55 | hrw|work | hm. I have to meet Gregor and do sd<>cf swapping.. |
| 16:03.04 | koen | http://www.codesourcery.com/public/gnu_toolchain/arm/2005q3-1/arm-2005q3-1-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.src.tar.bz2 |
| 16:03.04 | hrw|work | then I can test 4.0.2 image on c760 |
| 16:03.07 | koen | 'only' 101MB |
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| 16:05.07 | Noodles | What does EABI give in the way of neat stuff btw? |
| 16:05.08 | hrw|work | koen: you can fetch from cvs |
| 16:05.33 | koen | Noodles: standardization |
| 16:05.56 | koen | and it allows you to mix soft and hardfloat binaries (to some extent) |
| 16:06.51 | lardman|afk | Noodles: & softfloat is vfp rather than fpa! (fp internals endianness is the same as the processor endianness) |
| 16:08.21 | koen | RP: to which softfloat does 4.0.2 default to? fpa? |
| 16:09.49 | hrw|work | and one important thing: debian plan to move to eabi (iirc) |
| 16:10.30 | greentux | rp: is there a simple way to switch off building of (nobuilding-)openswan in bootstrap image? |
| 16:10.41 | hrw|work | greentux: edit configs |
| 16:10.50 | greentux | i tried some... |
| 16:11.32 | hrw|work | rebuilt task-bootstrap? |
| 16:13.34 | greentux | ok, next try tomorrow.a working wpa_supplicant was the task for today :) |
| 16:14.03 | hrw|work | greentux: got one built? attached it to bugtracker? |
| 16:14.56 | greentux | hrw|work: yes 0.4.6 built and worked perfectly with hostap-driver (other not tested) |
| 16:15.14 | greentux | hrw|work: attach to which bugtracker? (sorry) |
| 16:15.20 | hrw|work | greentux: look in topic |
| 16:15.27 | hrw|work | OE has only one bugtracker |
| 16:16.12 | greentux | ok, i wanna try the mailing-list but seemes low traffic |
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| 16:17.33 | greentux | ok: i open a bug, attach the .bb file and then? |
| 16:17.55 | RP | koen: I've never understood why you can't mix certain softfloat and hardfloat binaries anyway... |
| 16:18.10 | RP | koen: I know I've managed it quite happily on the Zaurus |
| 16:19.30 | hrw|work | greentux: and then someone will take it, look does it build and add into repo |
| 16:19.47 | hrw|work | greentux: if it will take more then week then you can complain and pester us to do it |
| 16:20.41 | greentux | ok, so i think you will check all "closed" bugs. well, will do this next days. i have a journey to berlin tomorrow. |
| 16:21.09 | RP | I had wpa-supplicant building before so I don't mind taking a look at that one. I don't check the bugs system that often though... |
| 16:21.41 | hrw|work | greentux: rather 'not resolved' ones |
| 16:22.06 | hrw|work | for example 455 looks easy |
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| 16:23.12 | greentux | ok, cu. |
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| 16:23.25 | RP | hrw|work: They didn't say 2.4 or 2.6 though :) |
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| 16:23.46 | RP | (It will be 2.4 given its oz 3.5.3) |
| 16:24.25 | hrw|work | RP: I read it rather as "in kernel which will be used for release" |
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| 16:59.36 | RP | For reference, the gcc 4.0.2 image booted fine... |
| 16:59.48 | koen | cool |
| 16:59.53 | koen | bootstrap? |
| 17:00.07 | RP | koen: bit more than that - xserver and some apps |
| 17:00.37 | _law_ | perhabs someone could test gaim with sound enabled with gcc4 |
| 17:01.56 | RP | _law_: That doesn't quite fit with what I'm doing atm ;-) |
| 17:02.08 | hrw|work | RP: good news. |
| 17:02.33 | koen | heh |
| 17:02.39 | koen | more C++ incompatibility |
| 17:03.07 | hrw|work | as usual |
| 17:03.19 | hrw|work | qt/e builds with gcc4 already |
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| 17:29.17 | _law_ | i am not able to install an ipkg (form my cf card) because in my feed there is a newer version :-( any ideas how i can manage this? -force-downgrade doesnt work |
| 17:45.32 | koen | remove the feed list |
| 17:46.50 | hrw|work | koen: does familiar split feeds or you have big one? |
| 17:47.23 | koen | 3 feeds |
| 17:47.40 | koen | base, qte dependant and x11 dependant |
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| 17:48.27 | hrw|work | so qpf fonts (opie/fonts) goes to feed/qte and ttf ones (x11/fonts) into feed/x11 - right? |
| 17:49.50 | koen | only if the qpf ipkgs have a dependency on qt/e (or something up the tree, like opie) |
| 17:50.55 | hrw|work | they have SECTION="opie/fonts" and depend only on shell script |
| 17:51.22 | koen | those will go in to the base feed |
| 17:51.45 | koen | since the SECTIONs in OE are mostly bogus familiar ignores them |
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| 17:53.46 | hrw|work | aha ok |
| 17:53.58 | hrw|work | ok. I go home now |
| 17:54.03 | koen | cu |
| 17:54.06 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 19:06.32 | magnet | hi |
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| 20:13.29 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 20:13.43 | koen | ciao Pigi |
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| 20:20.03 | Zero_Chaos | Can someone tell me how to make opie-image prefer hostap-modules_0.4.4 to hostap-modules_0.3.9? |
| 20:23.01 | Zero_Chaos | n/m, I'm a putz. |
| 20:35.22 | gremlin[it] | have sense to send a patch for a new h3600_defconfig ??? cause seem with the old one the oe scripts fail ... |
| 20:35.34 | gremlin[it] | old one --> Actual one |
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| 20:42.28 | gremlin[it] | a question, there is something to browse the monotone repository or OE ??? |
| 20:42.36 | gremlin[it] | web based i mean :) |
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| 20:59.39 | gremlin[it] | mhh i just sync oe with monotone ... but now i got an error ... |
| 21:00.01 | Pigi | let me guess.... !!! Connection refused ? |
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| 21:00.14 | gremlin[it] | openswan-2.2.0-r4 --> | cp: cannot stat `/mnt/hda/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openswan/openswan-2.2.0/./gcc4-fixes.patch': No such file or directory |
| 21:00.43 | Pigi | no,not connection refused |
| 21:00.49 | gremlin[it] | no n i finish to sync ... but seem new versione of package isn't good as previous ;) |
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| 21:04.40 | Pigi | check if the file is there.... |
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| 21:06.19 | gremlin[it] | mhh at now i'm looking for kernel compile correctly :) |
| 21:06.38 | Pigi | good luck then |
| 21:07.04 | gremlin[it] | it have to be ... is my "mission" ... (for h3600) :) |
| 21:11.24 | gremlin[it] | the patch file don't exist ... |
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| 21:37.22 | gremlin[it] | good night ... |
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| 21:59.48 | Pigi | nite all |
| 22:10.37 | Crofton_ | When do you need to inherit pkgconfig? |
| 22:11.05 | CosmicPenguin | when you have an library that creates one |
| 22:12.18 | Crofton | creates the pkgconfig files? |
| 22:12.28 | Crofton | Hmm, I do, therefore I should inherit |
| 22:12.44 | CosmicPenguin | there's a good lad |
| 22:14.08 | Crofton | omniorb really badly wants to install in STAGING/usr/lib etc |
| 22:14.22 | Crofton | I am trying --prefix=/ in conifgure |
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| 22:48.39 | Crofton | anyone around? |
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| 22:49.24 | Crofton | anyone want to tell me to write my own install to staging, rather than using make DESTDIR ... |
| 22:50.17 | uE | anyone know of a good example bb for something like nethack. It builds by first calling a setup script and then modifying a config.h. |
| 22:51.53 | Crofton_ | there isnt a bb for nethack? |
| 22:53.15 | v8jlene | uE: Sound slike you just need to provider your own do_configure then? Lots of .bb's do that aleady... |
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| 22:54.05 | CosmicPenguin | Crofton_: heh - yeah |
| 22:54.06 | uE | v8jlene: Thanks, I'll try that route. |
| 22:54.16 | CosmicPenguin | Crofton_: the nethack build system is a bit icky |
| 22:54.33 | uE | fortunately, it does have plenty of comments in the makefile for arm. |
| 22:54.50 | Crofton_ | this is painful because there are lot of header files to stage |
| 22:54.51 | CosmicPenguin | one day I set off to make a .bb, but then I actually had real work to do and it never got done |
| 22:54.53 | uE | it is just going through the pain of bb-izing it. |
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| 23:01.31 | v8jlene | CosmicPenguin: He, yeah I know what that's like. I moving from a custom build to oe for a router and some of the work required, even for to fix some of the existing .bb files, is enoug to drive you mad ;) |
| 23:06.43 | Crofton_ | hmm the clock on this athlon machine is screwy |
| 23:07.08 | CosmicPenguin | Crofton_: dual core? |
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| 23:07.18 | v8jlene | Crofton_: Isn't an X2 is it? |
| 23:07.36 | Crofton_ | dunno cheap machine from newegg |
| 23:08.12 | Crofton_ | ggr |
| 23:08.14 | Crofton_ | focus |
| 23:08.35 | Crofton_ | system monitor shows it burning about 1/2 cpu |
| 23:08.40 | Crofton_ | something funny is going on |
| 23:08.57 | Crofton_ | I thought I was ahving stupid ntp problems |
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| 23:09.53 | Crofton_ | ah |
| 23:10.14 | Crofton_ | ~google fedora athlon fast clock |
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| 23:36.51 | zecke | good nite |
| 23:58.14 | zonehakin9_ | Hey Guys.... if anyone is here and using OZ 3.5.4-rc: are you also having probs playing MP3's?? with opie-mediaplayer |
| 23:59.16 | kergoth | zonehakin9_: read the topic. |