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03:52.46z-akitai've got a problem compiling SDL_mixer,,,
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05:03.15abm_y4khi all
05:06.58abm_y4khow come I don't get any language set(no words, just icons) in opie when I built it with bitbake opie-image?
05:38.22abm_y4kanyone?
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10:15.53netnixhi all
10:16.14netnixi have error when build task-bootstrap:
10:16.17netnix| /stuff/build/conf/tmp/cross/sh3-linux/include/asm/ptrace.h:4:21: asm/ubc.h: No such file or directory
10:16.27netnixwhat's wrong?
10:17.04netnixTARGET_ARCH   = "sh3"
10:17.04netnixTARGET_OS     = "linux"
10:17.04netnixMACHINE       = "jornada6xx"
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11:51.05CIA-1303ph5 07org.oe.dev * r789079a5... 10/packages/udev/ (8 files in 2 dirs): udev: recipe and patches for udev-070
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12:06.17zeckekoen|tv: the cinergy T2 works perfectly with Tiger
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12:12.29nomichanhi
12:12.40pH5hi nomichan
12:12.57nomichanwhat's up :)
12:12.59alan|homehi all
12:13.31pH5hi alan|home
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12:18.50koenpH5: the hh3 defconfig doesn't build i2c-pxa (as a module)
12:19.52koenzecke: that's good to hear
12:20.11zeckekoen: and fink with self compiling is almnost like BSD
12:20.14koenzecke: my new project is to get mythbackend to work on my slug
12:21.10[cc]smarti couldn't identify one... do we have a package helping to handle mail/mime on comanndline ?
12:21.22alan|homekoen: (Oo)' mythtv is in OE ?
12:21.33koenalan|home: yes
12:21.40koenbitbake mythfront-image :)
12:21.54koenthat's what pb_ uses for his epia
12:22.18alan|homekoen: ho... i gueess it means i can't use myth frontend on openzaurus...
12:22.21alan|homecan i ?
12:22.30koenyou can try :)
12:22.52koenI already have mythfrontend on my powerbook
12:23.08alan|homeok... let's do that.... though i'm not sure i'll have enough frre space in the internal memory...
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12:26.01alan|homekoen: any idea of what i should build ? the task-mythfront meta ?
12:27.14koenbitbake mythtv I guess
12:28.05alan|homeok. let's try with this. thanks.
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12:28.49alan|homewoa... mythtv on a zaurus... that would be wonderfull if i had a dvb-t card on my linux box...
12:30.27alan|homehehe... now i know what i'll ask my wife in decembre
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12:50.08pH5koen: right, it seems that it uses the cvs defconfig. i'll add the cvs .bb's do_configure to _2.6.12-hh3.bb
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12:53.01alan|homehaaaa... is there nothing we can do about the caching file process that takes soooooo many time ?!?
12:56.40koenbitbake -i
12:58.27NoodlesHmmm. Has someone forgotten to commit packages/hostap/hostap-modules-0.4.4/kernel_updates.patch ? It's referenced from the .bb but not in the repo.
12:59.24NoodlesAnd if I remove it from the .bb hostap-modules fails to compile.
13:00.22koenNoodles: RP did some work on hostap iirc
13:01.31NoodlesYeah. 39f8b722d88381beb6810c7a3616dc89ef02d993 appears to be the bb change, but no patch file commit.
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13:10.14CIA-1303ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rd57da27a... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: postfix: remove temporary file /var/tmp/main_cf.sh after installation
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13:36.01RPNoodles: Commiting now - sorry about that
13:36.36RPSadly, my main monitor has gone bang so I'm only half functional here :-/
13:40.28CIA-1303rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd4dacf3f... 10/packages/hostap/hostap-modules-0.4.4/kernel_updates.patch: hostap: Add fixes so it builds correctly for kernels > 2.6.13
13:41.46nomichanhm, php does not compile in my 64-bit enviroment :(
13:41.46zeckekoen: http://www.gotontheinter.net/OSX.diff
13:41.54zeckekoen: do you have an opinion on that one
13:43.17alan|homekoen: looks like mythtv is "incompatible with host arm-linux"
13:43.40zeckealan|home: the epia kernel?
13:44.48alan|homezecke: well, i just tried "bitbake -b /home/alan/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mythtv/mythtv_0.18.1.bb" to test if it would work on a c7x0 zaurus...
13:45.09Disconnectzecke: fwiw that is not tested on a non-osx host yet. -should- work but... (the biggest set of changes, or at least the ugliest, is because 'os.uname()[4]' is 'Power Macintosh' .. that space -really- upsets -lots- of configure scripts.)
13:45.22zeckeDisconnect: this is your patch?
13:45.27Disconnectyah
13:45.49DisconnectI -think- its mostly up to date - can regen against my current tree. (builds as far as starting kernel config, then hangs)
13:45.49zeckeDisconnect: I do not like the Clean vs. NonClean separation
13:46.02Disconnectthats why I didn't submit it for inclusion.
13:46.34zeckeDisconnect: I'm currently building monotone and svn with fink
13:46.41Disconnectunfortunately, it looks like the build system requires both a textual spaces version and a commandline non-spaces version.
13:47.05zeckeDisconnect: which buildsystem? OE?
13:47.08Disconnectah. that was the easy part. (darwinports had both) .. it gets evil after that tho ;)
13:47.10Disconnectyah
13:47.42Disconnector at least the sub-systems (configure et al) seem to need both. changing the original variables resulted in lots more breakage
13:47.53zeckeFor me the tricky part is how to enter my password...
13:48.08zeckethe default terminal can not input my charachter
13:48.38DisconnectiTerm might be able to handle it.
13:48.39Disconnectdunno.
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13:59.44koenhmmm
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14:00.26Disconnectpatch is updated fyi
14:14.25koen~seen mikelp
14:14.34ibotmikelp <~phillim@pool-141-150-214-24.delv.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 281d 14h 27m 14s ago, saying: 'should default to the lcd's native'.
14:15.00koenwow
14:15.04koenthat's a long time ago
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14:28.12NoodlesRP: Cheers. Now spectrum-fw is failing with "line 147: get_symbol_fw: command not found". That looks like it wants something local I guess. I'm about to go out so I'll prod when I get back.
14:29.36RPNoodles: I'm farly sure I checked that script in...
14:51.14CIA-1303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf7245f1f... 10/packages/ubahnnav/ (ubahnnav_0.3.1.bb ubahnnav_0.4.0.bb ubahnnav_0.4.1.bb): ubahnnav: upgrade to 0.4.1 and remove obsolete versions
14:51.18CIA-1303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re957dec8... 10/packages/meta/opie-image.bb: opie-image needs to DEPEND on task-bootstrap
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14:55.00lardmanHmm, hostap-modules is failing to build - was this supposed to be fixed? Or should I remove the dep from gpe-image?
14:55.11lardman(I have just pulled btw)
14:55.20zeckemickey|zzZZzz: hey
14:55.39koenlardman: RP pushed a fix a few minutes ago
14:55.59lardman13:40?
14:56.24lardmanI thought I pulled after than - I'll check again
14:56.28mickeylmornin
14:56.28mickeylg
14:56.31koenhey mickeyl
14:56.34lardmanhi mickeyl
14:56.43mickeyl@ all germans: did you already vote? if not, do it NOW
14:57.08koenmickeyl: shiny E frontend for init instead of elppe
14:57.50koenmickeyl: I couldn't find anything about that on the enlightenment website
14:58.12kergothbleh
14:58.15kergothhangovers = evil
14:58.28lardmankoen: I'm betting I forgot to clean hostap modules after if failed yesterday
14:58.30Disconnectlol
14:58.36koennext time drink a pint of water before going to sleep
14:59.12mickeylkoen: *nod* I'm in favour of ditching elpp as well and instead use a nice E-fb based init
15:00.20zeckemickeyl: Kent Brockman got my vote
15:00.35koenzecke: vote Kang
15:00.42zeckekoen: hehe
15:00.57koen"Don't look at me, I voted Kodos"
15:00.58zeckekoen: Was that 'Clinn Ton' or the other one?
15:01.24koenI always confuse kang and kodos
15:01.53zeckekoen: I never liked pong anyway...
15:06.22CIA-1303mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra8e888a8... 10/packages/pcmciautils/ (pcmciautils_007.bb pcmciautils_010.bb): pcmciautils: upgrade to 010
15:08.03koenpH5: did you push the change to the kernel .bb yet?
15:11.16pH5koen: just a second...
15:11.51lardmanRP: Those scripts are there (get_symbol_fw and parse_symbol_fw), it just looks like they're not in the $path
15:14.02RPIt all worked here :-/
15:14.48lardmanthey get placed into the tmp/work/spectrum-fw-1.0-r0/ dir
15:14.59koenhttp://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-09/msg00228.html
15:15.02lardmanI'm just looking to see where/how they're called
15:16.08lardmando_compile() calls it with no path - is that normal?
15:21.56RPlardman: It should call  ./script rather than script
15:22.11lardmanRP: That's what I though; it doesn't
15:23.41RPChange it and see if it works - if it does, I'll push it
15:23.47CIA-1303ph5 07org.oe.dev * rb9817db6... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh3.bb: handhelds-pxa-2.6: make 2.6.12-hh3 use the oe defconfig
15:24.57RPHas some recent change to meta-opie removed the DEPENDS on task-bootstrap?
15:25.17koen16:51 < CIA-13> mickeyl org.oe.dev * re957dec8... /packages/meta/opie-image.bb: opie-image needs to DEPEND on task-bootstrap
15:26.04mickeylguess that was a damage by hrw
15:27.08RPkoen: Posting that from a different timezone had me really confused :)
15:27.13koen:)
15:27.23koen1.5 hour into the future
15:27.50mickeylparty, as well
15:28.01RPkoen|food: 0.5 but near enough :)
15:32.11lardmanRP: adjusting the .bb to add the ./ works
15:32.48RPlardman: ok. I'd thought I'd done that in the first place. I'll fix it :)
15:33.45lardmanRP: I'm pretty sure I pulled after you made your last change (the fact that hostap-modules compiles - after I did a bitbake clean - should prove that)
15:34.08koen|foodpH5: if that dbus patch works, please commit it
15:35.13RPlardman: Yes, it is broken...
15:40.04CIA-1303rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r23ad0768... 10/packages/orinoco/spectrum-fw.bb: spectrum-fw: Fix a path bug in the .bb. Thanks to lardman for pointing it out.
15:41.44pH5koen|food: there are still other alignment issues in the pin_request code
15:42.57NoodlesI was just about to comment about the spectrum-fw path. :)
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16:30.47abm_y4khi all
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16:38.51lardmanIs there a way of getting bitbake to print out the dependency tree for a given target? I'm just sat here watching random things being built and thinking about some kind of display of the progress of the build
16:39.32koenlardman: zecke was working on generating dotfiles for graphviz last week
16:40.16lardmankoen: Oh right, cool
16:41.49koenzecke: any news on that?
16:43.35zeckehehe not yet finished
16:45.20RPOnce that works, you'll probably get a multithreaded bitbake helper in short order ;-)
16:45.58koenI should start sucking up at the math department
16:47.22koenmake -j128 :)
16:47.57koenmake that make -j1024
16:53.34abm_y4kanyone know what I have missed? I bitbake opie-image and I flush this image and found there is default language(no words, just icons).
16:54.34bam_cool
16:54.46bam_pictographs
16:55.12abm_y4kyea
16:55.17abm_y4kall blanks
16:55.23abm_y4kwhat cause i?
16:55.24abm_y4kit?
16:55.37koenabm_y4k: I think #opie would be more helpfull for your problem
16:56.45abm_y4khm.. but its a problem on bitbake or oe ?
16:57.07koenI don't know
16:57.09koenopie fails
16:57.16koenso it seems to be an opie problem
16:57.25abm_y4kok
17:04.59abm_y4kbam_: you have a linksys wcf12 and c3100 rite?
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17:14.25bam_sry bout delay updating my linux box
17:14.47bam_lol: he quit, talking to myself
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17:46.25zeckeDisconnect: what about *_PATH (instead of CLEAN)
17:46.38zeckeDisconnect: but most importantly we need to document the keys
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17:55.48hrwhi
17:55.56CIA-1303hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1fa7381f... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-dejavu_1.13-20050820.bb ttf-dejavu_1.14.bb): ttf-dejavu: upgraded to 1.14
17:56.09hrwtomorrow I will update qpf versions
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18:05.13lardmanNight all
18:14.58[cc]smarthrw: hi
18:15.49[cc]smarthrw: would you possibly be interested in bug #41 ?
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18:17.36hrwhave to look
18:18.26hrw[cc]smart: thats thing for RP I think - he is kernel maintainer
18:18.48[cc]smartyes, i discussed it with him and even did the change myself
18:19.07[cc]smartbut i failed on setting up the configs for OZ for me to bitbake :/
18:19.24hrwcurrently I dont have time to change Z kernel(s) - have few things on todo list
18:19.27[cc]smartso i could not verify and i don't dare commit if i couldn't verify
18:19.34[cc]smartok.
18:19.47hrwI plan to make map for UBahnNav currently
18:19.57[cc]smartwhereas the change is minimalistic, it's more to verify
18:20.04[cc]smartubahn ? i know the HP
18:20.21[cc]smartiirc he has some bluetooth doco there i tried
18:20.26hrwhttp://www.ubahnstation.net/projects/ubahnnav/main.html
18:20.29[cc]smartyes
18:20.37[cc]smarti think that's the one
18:21.00[cc]smartyou know snmpz ?
18:21.04hrwno
18:21.11hrwnever used snmp
18:21.39[cc]smarthttp://snmpz.sourceforge.net
18:22.16hrwno snmpd here ;)
18:22.45hrw[cc]smart: you want it?
18:23.05[cc]smartit was working some time on oz
18:23.10[cc]smartand i think it is a nice project
18:23.20[cc]smartbut i'd fear this is relatively much work
18:23.21hrwI can look
18:23.44[cc]smartso i wouldn't really want to convince somebody in doing it, if it is not for their own benefit, too.
18:24.35hrwI got wrt54gs from you so I feel that if you want snmpz then I should atleast try
18:24.36hrw;)
18:24.50[cc]smartheh, thx
18:25.12[cc]smartbut maybe the will come better option...
18:25.14[cc]smart:)
18:26.21hrwit need some libs
18:26.28[cc]smartin any case, you did enough before to convince me that you earned it
18:26.35hrw;)
18:26.55hrwbtw - I have to find some time to upgrade openwrt
18:27.13[cc]smarti saw there is openwrt kernel, when checking about bug 41
18:27.24[cc]smartbut i couldn't find OE reference on openwrt HP
18:27.41[cc]smartso you are migrating separately from openwrt project ?
18:27.55hrwwe have partial wrt54 support but no maintainer for it
18:28.12hrwOE can build software for openwrt but images are not tested
18:28.21[cc]smartah. ok
18:28.29[cc]smartso OE already can build these images ?
18:28.34hrwI use some OE built stuff on wrt - but 8M of flash make it hard
18:28.48hrw[cc]smart: can - but who knows are they ok..
18:29.06[cc]smartok. is bootloader comparable to nslu in that it would allow reflash if its wrong ?
18:29.43hrwyou must look into openwrt docs - probably yes but I dont know
18:29.47[cc]smartin principle i could test them
18:29.52hrwbbl - dinner time
18:30.03[cc]smarti will have a look about what can be done to HW to make it safe
18:30.07[cc]smartthen we can test
18:30.28hrwserial cable will be usefull
18:30.34hrwmaybe jtag too
18:34.22hrw|dinner[cc]smart: looks like all REQ are already in OE
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21:11.09RPIt looks like something it wrong with the device creation on the latest images - /dev/input does get created I did see a mknod error flash by whilst it was booting
21:11.50koenRP: is that with udev 070?
21:13.16RPyes
21:13.38RPI think it might be related to the disabling of /etc/init.d/devices when udev is running though
21:13.46RPneed to check when that happened
21:17.33koenreenoo_: do you know what's the status on alsa integration in OE for ipaqs?
21:23.20RPI'm hoping this isn't a kernel problem with the input rearranging that came in with -rc1-mm1 :-/
21:24.17reenoo_koen: done for h3600. not sure about h3900
21:24.45koenreenoo_: I want to ship h3600 images with alsa drivers soon for people to test
21:24.54reenoo_koen: I don't think I switched h3900.conf over to alsa yet since nobody has tested that yet
21:24.59koen'soon' depends on said math catching up :(
21:25.21reenoo_nobody I "trust" that is
21:25.40reenoo_h3600 is a matter of rebuilding the image
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21:29.53RPFor reference, I also see the lack of any text under opie
21:31.55RPSo /dev/input devices don't get created, opie is missing text and usbcore oops when it gets removed as part of bootup :-/
21:37.48RPhostap won't eject :-/
21:54.21NoodlesI just hit the /dev/input stuff on a gpe-image from today. Once I created them it seemed happy enough though. And I saw the oops.
21:54.46NoodlesI built an opie-image too, but haven't tried it yet. Is the touchscreen stuff sorted in it with 2.6? (It was fine in gpe)
21:56.40zeckekoen: is ewi.nl/tmp/OE.db.bz2 not uptodate?
21:58.03zeckenevermind
22:04.20koenzecke: it is now :)
22:04.52RPNoodles: If you mean for the C3000, yes it is
22:05.24RPI'm feeling pretty bad as I appear to have trashed the kernel just before 3.5.4 :-(
22:05.52Noodles:(
22:06.07koenRP: that's why we use a scm
22:06.13zeckedamn I got lecturer tomorrw :(
22:07.20Delta__students have such a good life :)
22:07.40zecke|zZzzZZzDelta__: hehe but being forced to learn about hacker ethics...
22:07.48zecke|zZzzZZzDelta__: when applying it since years, suck
22:08.23zecke|zZzzZZzkoen: you must be clever ;)
22:08.25koenI really should do that exam
22:08.40zecke|zZzzZZzluckily I always took the tests...
22:08.53zecke|zZzzZZzkoen: but I still have to take 3-5 tests...
22:08.58koenyeah
22:09.03koenanyway
22:09.09koen'night all
22:09.11zecke|zZzzZZzcya tomorrow
22:09.23RP'night koen
22:09.54Delta__zecke so you should know everything about it, that makes it easy :)
22:10.22Delta__I am glad I don't have to take any tests anymore now..
22:11.04zecke|zZzzZZzRP: no text?
22:11.21zecke|zZzzZZzRP: what would you expect to see?
22:12.56RPzecke|zZzzZZz: Captions under the icons, text on menus, small things like that
22:13.50RPThere was not a single piece of text anywhere on the display. All the strings appears to be missing
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22:18.14zecke|zZzzZZzRP: dare to check one thing?
22:18.29zecke|zZzzZZz/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts has any content?
22:18.35zecke|zZzzZZzspecially a font.dir file?
22:19.42zecke|zZzzZZzor maybe fonts.dir
22:21.32mithrohey zecke_
22:21.43zecke|zZzzZZzhey and bye, I'm about to leave torward my bed
22:23.06reenoo_'night zecke|zZzzZZz
22:25.29mithrozecke|zZzzZZz: you have wireless don't you :P
22:26.36RPzecke|zZzzZZz: It contains one file - fontdir 631 bytes
22:27.59zecke|zZzzZZzRP: but no .qpf?
22:28.11zecke|zZzzZZzRP: what is the content of fontdir
22:28.17RPzecke|zZzzZZz: correct - not qpf files
22:28.38zecke|zZzzZZzmithro: yeah I've a OLED in my pillow and a bendable wlan chip
22:29.05mithro:P
22:29.11zecke|zZzzZZzRP: okay, it should be fairly easy to find out why qpf stuff is not installed
22:29.12RPzecke|zZzzZZz: It has a list of DefaVu_Sans entries pointing at ttf files in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
22:29.33zecke|zZzzZZzRP: do you have a opie-freetype plugin?
22:29.36mithrozecke_: any chance you might end up at Linux Kongress?
22:29.47zecke|zZzzZZzRP: /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories/*
22:29.51zecke|zZzzZZzmithro: got a URL
22:30.29RPzecke|zZzzZZz: fontfactories doesn't exist
22:30.52mithrohttp://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/program.html
22:31.05RPCould hrw have missed a package when rearranging meta-opie?
22:31.38zecke|zZzzZZzRP: could you find for freetype in /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins?
22:31.40zecke|zZzzZZzRP: could have happened
22:31.59RPMy Zaurus serial lead has died. The data line from the Zaurus to the PC appears to be dead :-(
22:32.01zecke|zZzzZZzmithro: oh it is during the week. I would have to check, either the terms start or my grandfather turns 92
22:32.33mithroanyone else thinking of going?
22:32.40RPzecke|zZzzZZz: no freetype either. Just applets, application, decorations, holidays, inputmethods, networksettings, security, styles, today
22:33.04zecke|zZzzZZzRP: well then opie-freetype plugin is not in the image
22:33.23zecke|zZzzZZzRP: tomorrow we can check where it should get added, put probably hrw is the guy to ask
22:33.31reenoo_'night all
22:33.40zecke|zZzzZZzRP: are the ttf fonts in /usr/sh...?
22:34.01RPzecke|zZzzZZz: yes
22:34.16RPzecke|zZzzZZz: I'll mention it to hrw tomorrow
22:34.24zecke|zZzzZZzopie-freetype then
22:35.22RPI'm upset about the serial lead :-/
22:35.28zecke|zZzzZZzmithro: sixty squids is quite expensive
22:35.51mithrozecke_: you havn't been to many conferences :P
22:36.28zecke|zZzzZZzmithro: right, but they should pay me ;)
22:36.34zecke|zZzzZZznot the otherway around
22:36.35mithro170EUR for a 4 day event is cheap
22:36.58mithrozecke|zZzzZZz: convince work it is of benifit and get them to pay :P
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