| 00:02.16 | reenoo_ | 'night all |
| 00:02.24 | mickeyl | night reenoo_ |
| 00:02.56 | kergoth | treke: what WoW realm are you in? |
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| 00:05.43 | treke | kergoth: cenarion circle I think |
| 00:05.52 | treke | lemme see, I just followed a friend |
| 00:06.30 | punkass | yeah kergoth, sorry to bug you...again, but is there anything else i can try to get this fetch problem fixed |
| 00:06.55 | punkass | i tried pulling a new version of bitbake and reinstalled, but that didnt help |
| 00:08.42 | kergoth | i really dont have any idea what would cause that |
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| 00:08.52 | kergoth | if you can run the cvs command that oe runs manually, it should work in oe |
| 00:09.06 | kergoth | treke: finally gave in and picked it up |
| 00:09.30 | punkass | yes i ran bitbake in debug mode and copy and pasted the cvs command into the command line and it worked fine |
| 00:12.50 | treke | kergoth: ha |
| 00:13.22 | treke | kergoth: just a warning, I highly recommend avoiding the pvp servers |
| 00:13.27 | kergoth | heh, i figured that |
| 00:13.43 | treke | you can actually kill each other on the non pvp servers, you just have to opt in |
| 00:13.58 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:14.01 | kergoth | that makes more sense |
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| 00:14.20 | treke | yeah. You can go about your business when you aren't in the mood |
| 00:15.15 | treke | kergoth: I'm playing a mage. It's fun, but you have to put up with a bit of downtime |
| 00:16.14 | kergoth | ah, thats annoying |
| 00:16.27 | treke | it's not that bad really |
| 00:16.37 | treke | but after 2-3 kills you have to rest for about 30 seconds |
| 00:17.56 | treke | what do you usually chose in NWN? |
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| 00:18.56 | kergoth | it varies. in nwn, i tended to avoid the mage classes, but beyond that i had characters across the board. |
| 00:19.13 | treke | ah |
| 00:19.48 | kergoth | maybe i'll try a rogue out |
| 00:19.52 | treke | hunters look like fun, but I haven't tried them out |
| 00:20.07 | treke | rogues look like fun |
| 00:20.07 | kergoth | hunters are good at ranged, right? |
| 00:20.15 | treke | yeah hunters are ranged mostly |
| 00:20.40 | treke | they also get pets that they can attack with |
| 00:21.00 | treke | from what I've seen, you want to avoid warlocks like the plague |
| 00:21.09 | kergoth | shaman looks like an interesting class, being the whole mage that can fight, type thing |
| 00:21.25 | kergoth | melee, that is |
| 00:21.31 | treke | looking to play horde? |
| 00:21.37 | kergoth | havent decided |
| 00:21.50 | chouimat | tabarnack! this steak was wonderful |
| 00:21.53 | treke | if you go horde, undead have some handy bonuses |
| 00:21.57 | treke | chouimat: you suck |
| 00:22.02 | chouimat | treke: what? |
| 00:22.02 | kergoth | hmm, gnome are good at engineering. might be cool to try a gnome rogue with an engineering skill |
| 00:22.08 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:22.16 | treke | engineering makes some cool shit |
| 00:22.31 | treke | chouimat: your steak |
| 00:22.49 | chouimat | treke: just tried a new recipe ... |
| 00:23.18 | treke | I have a troll priest, human mage, and dwarf warrior so far. Cant stand playing the warrior though |
| 00:24.09 | chouimat | treke: stir it both side (stir is the correct word) and put half glass of wine and let it simmer in it ... |
| 00:24.16 | treke | yum |
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| 00:24.44 | chouimat | treke: yup |
| 00:28.18 | treke | kergoth: Alliance side paladins are also somewhat popular since they are basically priests that can fight |
| 00:54.28 | mithro | anyone know how to calculate the corner frequency of a RC circuit? |
| 00:54.28 | treke | time to go home |
| 00:54.36 | treke | mithro: very carefully |
| 00:55.25 | mithro | it's something like 1/rc i thought |
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| 01:25.22 | treke|home | kergoth: what did you end up deciding on? |
| 01:37.26 | kergoth | treke|home: gnome rogue. |
| 01:37.49 | treke|home | cool |
| 01:38.59 | kergoth | lvl 4 so far. working on all the silly beginning quests, like delivering coffee and crap |
| 01:39.14 | treke|home | yeah |
| 01:39.20 | treke|home | what server did you end up on? |
| 01:39.26 | kergoth | i dont remember |
| 01:39.34 | kergoth | i think it was the one you're on |
| 01:39.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:40.01 | punkass | trackmania is the game to play :) |
| 01:40.07 | kergoth | i'm working on the basics. like not walking into walls |
| 01:40.28 | treke|home | hehe |
| 01:41.02 | kergoth | bought the first siberia game, it was cheap since its old |
| 01:41.03 | treke|home | 0.3 |
| 01:41.09 | kergoth | figured since i downloaded and played the second |
| 01:41.12 | kergoth | i should go back and play the first |
| 01:41.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:41.15 | treke|home | ha |
| 01:41.31 | treke|home | I keep meaning to buy it for xbox |
| 01:41.44 | treke|home | I've given up on ever getting windows running |
| 01:46.34 | kergoth | wow's actually the first mmorpg i've ever played |
| 01:46.36 | kergoth | seems pretty nice though |
| 01:46.46 | kergoth | good graphics, fairly intuitive interface |
| 01:48.00 | chouimat | kergoth: siberia? |
| 01:48.49 | kergoth | siberia's an adventure game |
| 01:48.53 | kergoth | pretty nice one |
| 01:49.00 | chouimat | don't know this one |
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| 02:01.03 | punkass | anyone know if 3.5.3 will be using a newer 2.4 kernel? |
| 02:02.59 | treke|home | no |
| 02:03.08 | treke|home | the 2.4 kernels are more or less unchanged |
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| 02:03.18 | punkass | ok thanks |
| 02:03.24 | treke|home | if you have a pxa device then you will be able to use 2.6 if you'd like |
| 02:03.35 | punkass | i have a 6000 |
| 02:03.43 | punkass | which is the pxa255 |
| 02:03.51 | treke|home | I dont know what 2.6 support is like |
| 02:04.09 | punkass | well all i really need is wireless,ssh,usbhost |
| 02:04.22 | punkass | oh and sd or cf support |
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| 02:26.30 | punkass | treke: i am not sure if this is you, but if it is, just so you know in the wiki under getting started it says to click this link to get snapshots: http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/ |
| 02:26.42 | punkass | i get this: You don't have permission to access /oe/snapshots/ on this server. |
| 02:32.59 | treke|home | right |
| 02:33.09 | treke|home | directory listings are disabled |
| 02:33.22 | treke|home | too much of a bandwidth drain |
| 02:33.28 | punkass | ok well i just thought i'd let you know |
| 02:33.50 | treke|home | a directory listing is 10MB |
| 02:33.58 | punkass | any thoughts why bitbake would give me this: ERROR: no files to build. |
| 02:34.21 | treke|home | BBFILES isn't set |
| 02:35.03 | punkass | thats what i thought, but it is: BBFILES := "/zaurus/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 02:35.11 | treke|home | are ther any bb's in there? |
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| 02:36.14 | punkass | yeah they are all there |
| 02:36.49 | punkass | all 1000 of them or however many there is |
| 02:37.29 | punkass | and i just ran bk pull; bk -r co -q to make sure they were upto date |
| 02:38.50 | punkass | well i dunno what happened but now its working |
| 02:39.28 | punkass | now hopefully the Fetch works |
| 02:40.03 | treke|home | hrm |
| 02:40.44 | punkass | for some reason before it wouldnt fetch from cvs, i just reinstalled bitbake so ill see how it goes |
| 02:43.09 | punkass | this is killin' me: ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 02:43.21 | punkass | NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: quilt |
| 02:43.44 | kergoth | check your local.conf for typos. |
| 02:44.00 | kergoth | if possible, post it somewhere we can look at it |
| 02:44.10 | kergoth | and paste your BBPATH |
| 02:44.44 | punkass | ok |
| 02:44.53 | punkass | in debug is says: DEBUG: Running CVS_RSH="ssh" /usr/bin/env cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/quilt co -r VER_0_39 quilt |
| 02:45.12 | punkass | i can cut and paste that line into the command line and it runs fine |
| 02:45.59 | punkass | echo $BBPATH |
| 02:46.13 | punkass | here; /zaurus/build:/zaurus/openembedded |
| 02:47.05 | punkass | local.conf http://pastebin.com/262825 |
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| 03:10.15 | punkass | ok well it seems to a least create this dir: ../sources/cvs/quilt-native/ |
| 03:10.45 | punkass | but there is nothing in it |
| 03:54.32 | punkass | any thoughts? |
| 03:59.25 | emte | hmm |
| 03:59.39 | emte | looks like i need to build gcc before glibc ... |
| 04:00.02 | emte | i take it gcc-cross doesnt build a c++ compiler? |
| 04:00.14 | kergoth | yes, it does. |
| 04:00.21 | emte | odd then |
| 04:00.29 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:00.38 | emte | glibc complains it cant find the cpp compiler |
| 04:00.44 | kergoth | gcc-cross-initial is built before glibc. gcc-cross is built after glibc. |
| 04:00.58 | emte | hmm |
| 04:01.32 | kergoth | -initial is what can be built without glibc. only c, only static, etc. |
| 04:01.37 | kergoth | ssee the .bb's |
| 04:02.02 | chouimat|Zzzzz | night |
| 04:02.05 | gb2 | glibc needs a c++ compiler? |
| 04:02.10 | kergoth | not that i know of. |
| 04:02.14 | CIA-3 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3179.1.1 10openembedded/packages/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers_2.6.11.1.bb: Add linux-libc-headers 2.6.11.1. |
| 04:02.22 | gb2 | emte's comment struck me as odd |
| 04:02.30 | gb2 | kergoth: heh, i was noticing how old those were |
| 04:02.31 | kergoth | me as well |
| 04:02.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:03.04 | gb2 | wonder if the gcc4 people are still on track |
| 04:03.27 | Crofton | how old? |
| 04:04.00 | emte | okay sofor it went: gcc-cross-initial-3.4.3-r10 glibc-initial-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r14 ... so i need to build the normal gcc-cross now? it was trying to build the plain glibc |
| 04:04.12 | emte | if so that explains my problem |
| 04:04.58 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:05.01 | gb2 | emte: bitbake gcc-cross, and it will build glibc in the process, a c library is a requirement for the general use c cross compiler |
| 04:05.02 | kergoth | why are you trying to do it manually? |
| 04:05.31 | kergoth | it goes binutils-cross, glibc-initial, gcc-cross-initial, glibc, gcc-cross. |
| 04:05.45 | kergoth | glibc-initial isnt required by all target architectures. a few can get away with building without it |
| 04:06.01 | kergoth | but you really shouldnt be bypassing deps. |
| 04:06.21 | gb2 | you rarely want to mess with the toolchains |
| 04:08.11 | emte | i am not building for an embeded device this time around |
| 04:08.21 | kergoth | and? |
| 04:08.40 | emte | i need a system that i can pull most of the patches out of |
| 04:09.24 | gb2 | "the patches" ? |
| 04:09.30 | emte | as for deps i wasnt bypassing by intentions |
| 04:10.09 | emte | pretty much the command i issued was bitbale glibc |
| 04:10.13 | emte | bitbake* |
| 04:10.26 | emte | which apperently doesnt have correct deps |
| 04:10.52 | gb2 | you rarely want to build a toolchain with anything other than "bitbake gcc-cross" |
| 04:11.23 | emte | i was using cross-initial it didnt build the second one |
| 04:12.11 | gb2 | the toolchain .bb files are designed to be smarter than you |
| 04:12.36 | emte | apperently not sice it failed |
| 04:12.40 | emte | since* |
| 04:12.58 | gb2 | what happens when you do "bitbake gcc-cross" after blowing away tmp? |
| 04:13.27 | emte | i am guessing it will build gcc-cross as i am trying that now |
| 04:13.40 | emte | i was trying to build glibc before |
| 04:13.50 | emte | and it doesnt depend on gcc-cross it seems |
| 04:14.01 | kergoth | i already told you, gcc-cross is built after glibc. |
| 04:14.03 | gb2 | gcc-cross depends on glibc |
| 04:14.06 | kergoth | how many times do you need to be told? |
| 04:14.17 | emte | glibc-inital built fine |
| 04:14.37 | emte | glibc fails with an error of a missing cpp compiler |
| 04:14.55 | gb2 | what does it actually print out as its error? |
| 04:16.01 | emte | configure:3224: checking for i686-linux-g++ |
| 04:16.01 | emte | configure:3250: result: ccache i686-linux-g++ |
| 04:16.01 | emte | configure:3308: checking for C++ compiler version |
| 04:16.01 | emte | configure:3311: ccache i686-linux-g++ --version </dev/null >&5 |
| 04:16.01 | emte | i686-linux-g++: No such file or directory |
| 04:20.07 | gb2 | which glibc package is it building there? |
| 04:20.43 | emte | glibc-2.3.3-r3 |
| 04:27.13 | gb2 | emte: what have you setup in your local.conf? |
| 04:29.05 | emte | that it eats cows, following kergoth's list now |
| 04:29.19 | emte | before he yells at me some more :P |
| 04:29.37 | emte | btw kergoth that reminds me, whats your new job? |
| 04:29.54 | gb2 | emte: uh.. you don't want to be doing the toolchain deps by hand |
| 04:30.08 | kergoth | i dont have a new one yet, really. am going to do some work for a friend of mine when i get back to mn, for a while. |
| 04:30.13 | gb2 | you want to "bitbake gcc-cross", if that's not working, there's something else wrong. |
| 04:30.15 | kergoth | perhaps a bit of consulting on the side |
| 04:30.22 | kergoth | havent really decided |
| 04:31.55 | emte | well, if you need i can always ask a friend in cali if they need some help, they do some consulting work etc |
| 04:32.33 | emte | you might need security clearance tho |
| 04:41.54 | emte | go skeleton go ... |
| 04:46.12 | gb2 | weird, my laptop was faster at doing bk pull/bk -r co -q than my desktop |
| 04:47.04 | emte | your laptop isnt dlding pron at the same time? |
| 04:47.10 | emte | :P |
| 04:47.19 | emte | bad me |
| 04:47.21 | gb2 | my laptop is bittorrenting |
| 04:47.28 | gb2 | my desktop is rsync'ing |
| 04:47.50 | emte | yeah that sounds reasonable then |
| 04:48.10 | emte | rsync uses a stream no? |
| 04:49.05 | gb2 | a "stream" is going to make bk slow? |
| 04:49.48 | gb2 | i think my laptop was doing better with disk access |
| 04:52.23 | gb2 | emte: have you gotten any further? |
| 04:54.31 | gb2 | what do you have setup in your local.conf for the system you're trying to build? |
| 04:56.13 | gb2 | wow, the glibc .bb files in oe look really haphazard |
| 04:56.38 | emte | its rebuilding gettext |
| 04:57.52 | emte | a stream reduces the frequency that you can "jam" in packets to be transfered |
| 04:58.11 | gb2 | ? |
| 04:58.14 | emte | bt is packet based so its a bit looser |
| 04:58.20 | emte | loser* |
| 04:58.23 | gb2 | both are tcp based |
| 04:58.27 | emte | first was right |
| 04:58.44 | emte | yes but one is a train and the other are cars on a highway |
| 04:58.58 | gb2 | huh? |
| 04:59.09 | emte | its pretty hard to shove another traincar in a moving train |
| 04:59.32 | gb2 | bittorrent will send data as fast as possible |
| 04:59.35 | gb2 | so will rsync |
| 05:00.02 | gb2 | as it happens, i've setup both to limit themselves |
| 05:00.09 | emte | yes but bt is packet based so each packet/car is not linked together |
| 05:00.28 | emte | its easy to shove another packet in |
| 05:00.38 | gb2 | what are you referring to as a "packet" |
| 05:00.41 | emte | as easy as an onramp on a highway |
| 05:01.00 | gb2 | emte: you sound confused |
| 05:01.03 | emte | an individual frame of data |
| 05:01.12 | emte | in bt they are not linked |
| 05:01.20 | emte | in a stream they are |
| 05:02.14 | gb2 | my bittorrent client has 72 tcp connections open to various machines on the internet |
| 05:02.41 | gb2 | each of those is going to shove requested pieces of the file i'm downloading at me over tcp sockets |
| 05:03.09 | gb2 | each individual piece is typically 1MB in size (as the bittorrent common case uses) |
| 05:04.33 | gb2 | emte: effectively, i have 72 streams open all shoving data at me continuously |
| 05:04.41 | emte | yes but it requests the same 1M from all the clients |
| 05:04.55 | emte | it doesnt care from which client it gets which |
| 05:04.56 | gb2 | no it doesn't |
| 05:05.02 | gb2 | that would be a waste of bandwidth |
| 05:05.10 | gb2 | you wouldn't get the file faster that way |
| 05:05.14 | emte | not really |
| 05:05.28 | emte | you get the fist packets faster and drop the rest |
| 05:05.37 | kergoth | dood, get off the crack. |
| 05:05.43 | gb2 | if i download 74 copies of the same 1M chunk, i've wasted 73M of time i could have spent downloading other pieces |
| 05:06.03 | emte | it wont accept all |
| 05:06.07 | emte | only the first |
| 05:07.12 | gb2 | emte: your understanding of the bittorrent protocol is flawed |
| 05:07.23 | emte | it sends out 74 requests adn accepts only the first reply |
| 05:08.25 | gb2 | it sends out requests for different parts of the file simultaneously to different machines, and accepts them all. if some of those don't reply, it retries getting those pieces from different machines. |
| 05:08.29 | gb2 | it doesn't duplicate work |
| 05:08.42 | gb2 | the whole point of bittorrent is to move data in a highly efficient manner |
| 05:11.00 | gb2 | if i leave bittorent to its own devices, it will use every bit of available bandwidth I have to move files around |
| 05:20.48 | emte | i suppose initial needs all three i's |
| 05:21.51 | gb2 | emte: what target are you trying to build for? |
| 05:22.29 | gb2 | emte: the version of the glibc package you mentioned is generally not built |
| 05:28.08 | punkass | kergoth: you get a chance to look at the local.conf? |
| 05:37.02 | emte | i686 |
| 05:37.41 | gb2 | emte: beyond that, what have you setup in your local.conf? |
| 05:38.14 | emte | the normal stuff, with exception to my devel trees |
| 05:38.57 | emte | there is nothing wrong with my local.conf, it builds oe images fine |
| 05:39.05 | gb2 | if you leave stuff mostly default, i686-linux will build glibc_2.3.3+cvs20050221.bb, not glibc_2.3.3 |
| 05:42.26 | punkass | gb2, any thoughts why bitbake would Fetch would fail? |
| 05:42.41 | punkass | minus that first would |
| 05:43.04 | punkass | i have run it in debug mode, and it is making the cvs call |
| 05:43.18 | gb2 | what does it fail with? |
| 05:43.23 | punkass | i can then cut and paste the cvs call to the command line and it works fine |
| 05:43.40 | gb2 | what error does cvs give you? |
| 05:43.41 | punkass | the very first item it tries to download...quilt i believe |
| 05:43.48 | punkass | none |
| 05:44.00 | punkass | NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: quilt |
| 05:44.14 | punkass | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39-r0: task do_fetch: failed |
| 05:44.14 | punkass | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 05:44.17 | gb2 | surely it prints more debugging than that |
| 05:44.45 | punkass | there is 8 lines.. do u want me to post them here? |
| 05:44.57 | gb2 | /query me and paste |
| 05:47.54 | emte | hmm the missing cpp is gone now, thnks kergoth |
| 05:48.06 | emte | my other error is back ... |
| 05:48.14 | emte | misslink for a lib i think |
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| 06:03.28 | gb2 | try this, run "python" then type "import os" followed by: os.system('CVS_RSH="ssh" /usr/bin/env cvs -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/quilt co -r VER_0_39 quilt') |
| 06:04.34 | punkass | worked fine |
| 06:04.48 | punkass | cvs checkout: Updating quilt |
| 06:04.53 | punkass | then all the files listed |
| 06:05.09 | gb2 | did it then print a 0? |
| 06:05.15 | punkass | yup |
| 06:05.29 | punkass | U quilt/test/two.test |
| 06:05.30 | punkass | 0 |
| 06:05.30 | punkass | >>> |
| 06:05.35 | gb2 | odd |
| 06:05.48 | gb2 | that's exactly what bitbake runs there |
| 06:06.14 | punkass | yeah its pretty wierd |
| 06:06.30 | punkass | i thought maybe bad permissions on the write directory or something but they seem fine |
| 06:07.49 | punkass | going to do a full chmod -R 777 * just to make sure i didnt miss something |
| 06:09.37 | gb2 | you could try something like this: |
| 06:09.38 | gb2 | strace -ff -o strace.log bitbake -c fetch -b ../openembedded/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.39.bb |
| 06:09.53 | punkass | sure |
| 06:10.28 | gb2 | you should endup with several files beginning strace.log |
| 06:10.39 | punkass | well strace didnt give me anything...but the fetch worked |
| 06:10.47 | gb2 | it worked? |
| 06:10.52 | punkass | strace -ff -o strace.log bitbake -c fetch -b ../openembedded/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.39.bb |
| 06:10.54 | punkass | oops |
| 06:10.55 | punkass | yes |
| 06:10.59 | punkass | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39-r0: task do_fetch: completed |
| 06:10.59 | punkass | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: completed |
| 06:11.00 | punkass | Build statistics: |
| 06:11.00 | punkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.03 | gb2 | do it without the straces |
| 06:11.12 | gb2 | remove the file from your cache first |
| 06:11.16 | gb2 | it'll cache a tarball |
| 06:13.07 | punkass | it worked |
| 06:13.18 | gb2 | that's very strange |
| 06:13.28 | punkass | hmm i did the chmod -R 777 * |
| 06:13.35 | gb2 | heh |
| 06:13.37 | punkass | i wonder if something was not set right |
| 06:13.56 | punkass | what does bitbake run as? |
| 06:14.00 | gb2 | you |
| 06:14.11 | punkass | yeah i know for sure i had 755 everywhere |
| 06:14.16 | punkass | and all owned by me |
| 06:14.26 | punkass | well let me try a full run again |
| 06:14.38 | gb2 | you might blow away your tmp |
| 06:14.46 | punkass | its empty |
| 06:15.18 | gb2 | it will want write access to DL_DIR and TMPDIR |
| 06:16.54 | punkass | ok well its got 777 everywhere now |
| 06:17.02 | emte | you dont perhaps have a wonky umask ... |
| 06:17.25 | punkass | man if that was my problem..... |
| 06:17.30 | punkass | um i dont think so |
| 06:17.41 | punkass | ill let this one finish its run and see |
| 06:19.22 | punkass | lol...didnt work |
| 06:19.28 | punkass | same error |
| 06:21.08 | punkass | tho it seems to make this directory ../sources/cvs/quilt-native/ |
| 06:21.12 | punkass | but its empty |
| 06:21.36 | gb2 | that sounds like cvs is blowing up with some error |
| 06:22.27 | gb2 | so the bitbake with the specific file and task works, but running through the deps stuff doesn't work? |
| 06:22.38 | punkass | yeah |
| 06:22.57 | punkass | just doing: bitbake legousbtower fails |
| 06:23.15 | gb2 | try bitbake quilt-native (probably the same) |
| 06:23.24 | punkass | but this: bitbake -c fetch -b ../openembedded/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.39.bb |
| 06:23.25 | punkass | works |
| 06:23.34 | gb2 | then, edit BBFILES to only contain the quilt-native .bb file |
| 06:23.40 | punkass | ok |
| 06:23.41 | gb2 | and try "bitbake quilt-native" |
| 06:28.25 | punkass | worked |
| 06:28.37 | punkass | NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39: completed |
| 06:28.37 | punkass | NOTE: build 200503252228: completed |
| 06:28.37 | punkass | Build statistics: |
| 06:28.37 | punkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.49 | gb2 | first one worked? or second one? |
| 06:29.15 | punkass | i did: BBFILES to only contain the quilt-native .bb file |
| 06:29.22 | punkass | then ran: bitbake quilt-native |
| 06:29.25 | punkass | and that worked |
| 06:29.37 | gb2 | with a full BBFILES it fails though? |
| 06:29.58 | punkass | hmm never tried just quilt-native will full bb one moment |
| 06:30.07 | punkass | will =with |
| 06:33.18 | gb2 | really wish bb parsing was faster |
| 06:33.46 | punkass | me to |
| 06:34.10 | punkass | i for some reason i have to remove my cache file or it bitbake jams out at around 89% |
| 06:34.21 | gb2 | weird |
| 06:34.25 | punkass | yeah |
| 06:34.39 | punkass | when it first adds all the files to the cache its fine |
| 06:34.52 | punkass | but on a second run, it fails |
| 06:35.09 | punkass | uses about 1.3 gigs o memeory |
| 06:35.30 | punkass | and i cant seem to find psyco for amd64 |
| 06:35.33 | gb2 | if it fails with a full BBFILES, but works with only that one file in BBFILES, it sounds like there's something very strange wrong with things |
| 06:35.37 | gb2 | psyco is i386 only |
| 06:35.54 | punkass | hmm.. it just gave me this: |
| 06:35.55 | punkass | NOTE: build 200503252231: completed |
| 06:35.55 | punkass | Build statistics: |
| 06:35.55 | punkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.03 | punkass | did i miss deleting a file somewhere? |
| 06:36.20 | gb2 | did you blow away tmp? |
| 06:36.35 | gb2 | since you built it back when you had only the one .bb in there |
| 06:36.36 | punkass | i killed cache and work |
| 06:36.48 | punkass | and source |
| 06:36.54 | gb2 | stamps? |
| 06:37.09 | punkass | doh ok ill wipe tmp clean |
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| 06:44.00 | punkass | failed :( |
| 06:45.07 | punkass | this is my bbfiles: BBFILES := "/zaurus/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb" |
| 06:45.30 | punkass | and this is the single one that worked: BBFILES := "/zaurus/openembedded/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.39.bb" |
| 06:48.31 | gb2 | yeah.. that's really bizzare |
| 06:48.41 | punkass | heh no kidding |
| 06:48.49 | punkass | i its a fresh install of bitbake |
| 06:48.55 | gb2 | wonder if your python is broken, you mentioned it ends up eating gigs of ram |
| 06:49.19 | punkass | i have 1 gig o ram, and it uses 1.3 |
| 06:49.34 | punkass | but i have 1 gig swap partition |
| 06:50.05 | gb2 | it uses only a few hundred megs here |
| 06:50.09 | punkass | clear |
| 06:50.12 | punkass | oops |
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| 06:50.51 | punkass | hmm cuz on my professors comp it was using about a gig |
| 06:51.02 | gb2 | grrr, people who ignore comments in bugzilla and close the bugs are annoying |
| 06:51.42 | punkass | definalty doesnt get the bugs fixed any faster |
| 06:52.50 | gb2 | a bug was filed saying ".so symlinks missing from package", maintainer adds them to the main package rather than the -devel package, so i add in the bug saying they were added to the wrong package, 2 weeks later, bug is closed saying "fixed in current version" |
| 06:53.22 | punkass | doh |
| 06:54.50 | punkass | hmm, know anything about this one: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84402 |
| 06:55.31 | gb2 | i have a gig of ram on my laptop, but bitbake doesn't hit swap |
| 06:56.32 | punkass | hmm, well i would like that to happen |
| 06:56.34 | gb2 | i'm running it up now, lesse how big it gets |
| 06:56.46 | gb2 | 100M of address space |
| 06:56.54 | gb2 | about 1/4th done parsing |
| 06:56.54 | punkass | does psyco help in the respect? |
| 06:57.07 | punkass | or is it just for processing |
| 06:57.18 | gb2 | it shouldn't |
| 06:57.21 | gb2 | change things much |
| 06:57.45 | gb2 | 200M at 50% |
| 06:58.42 | gb2 | the python representation of all the metadata is a bit inefficient |
| 06:59.28 | gb2 | topped out at 388M |
| 06:59.38 | punkass | hmm |
| 06:59.41 | gb2 | with 348M of that actually in memory |
| 07:01.05 | punkass | 750megs at 50% |
| 07:01.56 | punkass | thats with the cache already ther |
| 07:01.58 | punkass | e |
| 07:02.07 | punkass | oh comp is starting to bag down |
| 07:02.40 | punkass | 950Megs at 87% with 200 in swap |
| 07:03.01 | punkass | top: load average: 4.29 |
| 07:03.33 | punkass | now its doing it stuck at 87% thing |
| 07:03.56 | punkass | and bitbake is only using like 2% cpu |
| 07:04.34 | gb2 | strace attach to it |
| 07:04.44 | gb2 | strace -p <pid_of_bitbake> |
| 07:04.53 | punkass | doh i just killed it |
| 07:05.00 | punkass | let me clean the cache |
| 07:05.19 | punkass | you can strace while a process is running? |
| 07:05.23 | gb2 | yes |
| 07:05.26 | punkass | thats cool |
| 07:05.26 | gb2 | strace -p PID |
| 07:05.36 | gb2 | you can attach gdb to a running process too |
| 07:06.03 | punkass | cool, was just learning about strace and gdb, trying to make this usbtower work on a sl6000 |
| 07:08.44 | punkass | just running a strace -ff -o strace.log bitbake quilt-native |
| 07:10.07 | gb2 | yeah, that's probably easiest, it'll be -slow- |
| 07:13.55 | punkass | stat("/zaurus/build/tmp/stamps/quilt-native-0.39-r0.do_populate_staging", 0x7fbffff000) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 07:14.15 | punkass | access("/zaurus/build/tmp/stamps/quilt-native-0.39-r0.do_build", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 07:14.16 | gb2 | that's fine |
| 07:14.23 | gb2 | also fine |
| 07:14.34 | gb2 | those are it checking previous build progress |
| 07:14.45 | punkass | ah ok |
| 07:14.47 | gb2 | in the stamps/ dir |
| 07:15.14 | punkass | write(1, "NOTE: Fetch cvs://anoncvs:@savan"..., 106) = 106 |
| 07:15.16 | punkass | stat("/zaurus/sources/cvs", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0 |
| 07:15.16 | punkass | mkdir("/zaurus/sources/cvs/quilt-native", 0777) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) |
| 07:15.16 | punkass | chdir("/zaurus/sources/cvs/quilt-native") = 0 |
| 07:15.28 | gb2 | sofar so goodd |
| 07:15.45 | punkass | clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, child_tidptr=0x2a95d4b940) = -1 ENOMEM (Cannot allocate memory) |
| 07:15.57 | punkass | rmdir("/zaurus/sources/cvs/quilt-native/quilt") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 07:15.57 | punkass | write(1, "NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed:"..., 39) = 39 |
| 07:15.58 | gb2 | that's it trying to spawn cvs |
| 07:16.05 | emte | how much ram is in your system? |
| 07:16.06 | gb2 | you ran out of memory |
| 07:16.15 | punkass | i have 1gig ram and 1gig swap |
| 07:16.24 | emte | ouch |
| 07:16.59 | emte | what else do you have running? |
| 07:17.16 | punkass | a couple terminals firefox, and some music |
| 07:17.40 | emte | firrefox will do it |
| 07:17.43 | gb2 | i blame ubuntu's python |
| 07:17.49 | punkass | i am only using 211megs without it |
| 07:17.49 | gb2 | it shouldn't be getting that big |
| 07:17.51 | emte | shutdown firefox and retry |
| 07:18.19 | emte | some strange reason mozilla/firefox still affect bitbake |
| 07:18.30 | emte | not sure if its a memory thing or what not |
| 07:18.39 | punkass | hmm worth a shot |
| 07:20.48 | punkass | only at 70% and have a 1gig uesed |
| 07:22.05 | punkass | closing firefox didnt help |
| 07:22.52 | emte | other option is to use cow i suppose |
| 07:22.58 | punkass | you know anything about this: hehe |
| 07:23.04 | punkass | was just going to ask about cow |
| 07:24.07 | emte | not used it myself, with 1gb ram i've never really had the need |
| 07:24.19 | gb2 | why hasn't cow been merged in to the main bitbake? |
| 07:24.47 | punkass | ok this is kinda a newish question but how do i apply the patch |
| 07:24.54 | punkass | newbish* |
| 07:26.02 | emte | you'd have to read the instructions i guess |
| 07:26.18 | punkass | yeah, but there is no readme or anything |
| 07:26.28 | emte | perhaps cow doesnt work with all setups? |
| 07:27.07 | emte | normal wat to patch is: patch -p1 < patchfile |
| 07:27.11 | emte | way* |
| 07:27.18 | emte | dunno if that helps |
| 07:27.26 | punkass | what is -p1? |
| 07:27.33 | emte | patch level 1 |
| 07:27.37 | punkass | o |
| 07:27.43 | emte | goes from 0 -> 8 i think |
| 07:27.47 | punkass | dont you have to tell it what to patch? |
| 07:27.55 | emte | it reads that from the patch |
| 07:27.56 | punkass | or it just knows by the patch file |
| 07:27.58 | punkass | ah ok |
| 07:28.29 | emte | patch level adjusts the file path it tries to match |
| 07:28.48 | emte | zero being full and each increment is one level up |
| 07:29.32 | punkass | hmm well it seemed to patch everything without error |
| 07:29.37 | emte | thats good |
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| 08:02.07 | punkass | hmm patch may have helped: sofar using 250megs at 55% |
| 08:03.13 | punkass | omg its workig! |
| 08:03.19 | punkass | its also working |
| 08:03.44 | punkass | thanks gb2 and emte |
| 08:04.14 | punkass | max out at round 475 megs with that patch |
| 08:04.54 | emte | hmm thats about where mine sits without it ... |
| 08:05.28 | punkass | well i am just glad its finally working |
| 08:07.25 | gints|home | is latest familiar 0.8.2 bb file updated to have opie 1.2? |
| 08:14.18 | emte | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libqpe:libqpe-opie" |
| 08:14.18 | emte | PREFERRED_VERSION_qte = "2.3.10" |
| 08:14.18 | emte | #OPIE_VERSION = "1.1.9" |
| 08:14.30 | emte | doesnt look like its intended to |
| 08:15.09 | gints|home | may be we need to? |
| 08:15.23 | emte | talk to #opie |
| 08:15.47 | emte | does it work on all the ipaq devices? |
| 08:16.19 | emte | damn you -lc |
| 08:18.44 | gints|home | emte: opie people says opie 1.2 is out... |
| 08:22.08 | punkass | ok it get this: /tmp/ccRePwdQ.s: Assembler messages: |
| 08:22.09 | punkass | /tmp/ccRePwdQ.s:1012: Error: bignum invalid |
| 08:22.09 | punkass | make[3]: *** [tinfo.lo] Error 1 |
| 08:22.29 | punkass | trying to compile /gcc-cross-3.4.3-r10/ |
| 08:27.35 | punkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.51 | punkass | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.18 | RP | morning all |
| 08:42.02 | punkass | going to ask this just cuz i am here already |
| 08:42.09 | punkass | if a cpp file has #ifdef TRACE |
| 08:42.13 | punkass | how do i go about using it |
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| 09:30.01 | jskcr | hy all |
| 09:30.45 | jskcr | Im using suse 9.2 and I keep getting FATAL: autoreconf execution failed. |
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| 09:51.36 | punkass | anyone know why I would get this: |
| 09:51.36 | punkass | | /tmp/ccjQtxKG.s: Assembler messages: |
| 09:51.37 | punkass | | /tmp/ccjQtxKG.s:1012: Error: bignum invalid |
| 09:51.37 | punkass | | make[3]: *** [tinfo.lo] Error 1 |
| 09:51.53 | punkass | make[3]: Leaving directory `/zaurus/build/tmp/work/gcc-cross-3.4.3-r10/gcc-3.4.3/build.x86_64-linux.arm-linux/arm-linux/libstdc++-v3/libsupc++' |
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| 09:53.33 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 09:59.10 | jskcr | autoheader: warning: missing template: HAVE_LIBREADLINE |
| 09:59.22 | jskcr | im getting that when I try to build a package |
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| 10:06.02 | RP | morning reenoo_/pb_ |
| 10:06.07 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 10:11.34 | reenoo_ | hey RP |
| 10:15.24 | bluelightning | hi reenoo_, RP, pb_ |
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| 10:19.12 | koen|tv | good morning all |
| 10:19.27 | jskcr | bmorning |
| 10:19.45 | reenoo_ | hey bluelightning |
| 10:20.00 | koen | ~lart ep09.pld-linux.org for being down all the time |
| 10:20.36 | koen | stinking linux-libcheaders |
| 10:21.29 | bluelightning | hi koen |
| 10:21.33 | bluelightning | hi jskcr |
| 10:21.40 | punkass | any of you guys tried using the host usb on a sl-6000? |
| 10:21.45 | jskcr | checking host system type... Invalid configuration `INVALID-linux': machine `INVALID' not recognized |
| 10:21.52 | punkass | running Oz of course |
| 10:21.56 | jskcr | I keep geting that I forgot where to set it |
| 10:22.02 | koen | hey bluelightning |
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| 10:31.53 | punkass | is it possible to get the version of usb-ohci from 2.4.22-pre3 working in Oz? |
| 10:32.06 | pb_ | punkass: that'd be a question for #openzaurus |
| 10:32.21 | punkass | ok |
| 10:34.28 | punkass | do you mind if i as a bitbake compiling error question |
| 10:34.43 | punkass | ask* |
| 10:36.05 | pb_ | no, go ahead |
| 10:36.43 | punkass | i am getting this when bitbake tries to compile, gcc-cross-3.4.3-r10 |
| 10:36.44 | punkass | | /tmp/ccHmXNoy.s: Assembler messages: |
| 10:36.44 | punkass | | /tmp/ccHmXNoy.s:1012: Error: bignum invalid |
| 10:36.44 | punkass | | make[3]: *** [tinfo.lo] Error 1 |
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| 10:51.59 | gints | linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r0: task do_fetch: failed - Is it known? |
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| 10:56.28 | koen|afk | 11:20 < koen> ~lart ep09.pld-linux.org for being down all the time |
| 10:56.29 | koen|afk | 11:20 * ibot explains, ever so gently, that if ep09.pld-linux.org doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help for being down all the time |
| 10:56.32 | koen|afk | 11:20 < koen> stinking linux-libcheaders |
| 10:56.51 | koen | gints: does that answer your question :) |
| 10:56.59 | gints | koen: yes... |
| 10:57.09 | gints | koen: opie 1.2 is out... |
| 11:02.06 | mickeyl | morning |
| 11:02.17 | mickeyl | could you help me diffing the opie*_cvs and opie*_1.2.0 please? |
| 11:02.29 | mickeyl | at this point of time they should be the same except SRC_URI |
| 11:02.33 | mickeyl | and an added PV |
| 11:02.45 | gints | mickeyl: mornin |
| 11:02.58 | bluelightning | hi mickeyl |
| 11:03.01 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 11:03.50 | koen | mickeyl: I have a feeling X will broken in oz-3.5.3, could you check if it can reach the login screen? |
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| 11:04.02 | koen | when it does, the breakages aren't user visible |
| 11:04.12 | jskcr | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 11:04.15 | jskcr | ep09.pld-linux.org |
| 11:04.40 | koen | just add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 to linux-libc-headers_2.6.11.1.bb |
| 11:04.57 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3180.1.3 10openembedded/packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar_1.2.0.bb: opie-taskbar-1.2.0: catch up with cvs version |
| 11:05.04 | jskcr | wow the amazing mindreading koen :) |
| 11:05.08 | jskcr | thnx |
| 11:05.35 | jskcr | someone should set the topic to that |
| 11:06.00 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3180.1.2 10openembedded/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.2.conf: use opie 1.2.0 in familiar 0.8.2 |
| 11:06.12 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3180.1.1 10openembedded/packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie_1.2.0.bb: libqpe-opie-1.2.0: catch up with cvs version |
| 11:06.16 | zecke_ | kergoth: could it be that FreeBSD supports a per keyboard keymap already? |
| 11:06.39 | zecke_ | kergoth: with kbdcontrol you can attach and detach a keyboard device from the console |
| 11:07.26 | zecke_ | oh just change the default keyboard :} |
| 11:07.37 | jskcr | I lost my old oe build enviroment when my 40 gig drive died and Im rebuildin |
| 11:10.47 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3183 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): opie-1.2.0 uses qcop 1.0.1 |
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| 12:06.34 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07 * r1.3184 10openembedded/packages/libgphoto2/libgphoto2_2.1.5.bb: |
| 12:06.36 | CIA-3 | libgphoto2_2.1.5.bb: |
| 12:06.36 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.37 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07 * r1.3181.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (libgphoto2/libgphoto2_2.1.5.bb gphoto2/gphoto2_2.1.5.bb): libgphoto2_2.1.5.bb, gphoto2_2.1.5.bb: add latest and greatest gphoto2, features improved ptp2 support |
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| 13:17.04 | jskcr | hya all |
| 13:17.19 | jskcr | anyone else having problems with bc-2.3.3+cvs20050221-r0 ? |
| 13:37.50 | jskcr | what PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross is everyone using? |
| 13:37.55 | jskcr | 3.3.4 |
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| 13:58.03 | Bernardo | hi |
| 13:58.08 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 13:59.21 | hrw | zdrastwujcie |
| 13:59.34 | jskcr | hya |
| 14:00.02 | hrw | how's going oz 3.5.3 session? |
| 14:02.13 | mickeyl | i'm breaking everything opie in the next minutes |
| 14:02.17 | mickeyl | watch out for mass commit |
| 14:02.34 | mickeyl | i need all your help to fix it afterwards :D |
| 14:02.45 | Bernardo | that's why I can't build anything now... :) |
| 14:02.48 | hrw | I dont have bk access here |
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| 14:03.33 | hrw | or build machine access - so no help from me |
| 14:05.30 | mickeyl | here we go |
| 14:05.34 | hrw | hi koen |
| 14:05.46 | koen | hey hrw |
| 14:06.06 | mickeyl | urghs |
| 14:06.08 | mickeyl | grr |
| 14:06.20 | hrw | mickeyl: repo locked? |
| 14:06.31 | mickeyl | no, my repo is broken |
| 14:06.36 | koen | mickeyl: breaking stuff in what way? |
| 14:06.37 | mickeyl | with 300 changes |
| 14:06.47 | mickeyl | can't comment now |
| 14:06.49 | mickeyl | need to fix my repo |
| 14:06.51 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 14:06.59 | hrw | mickeyl: fsck.. |
| 14:08.07 | jskcr | what version gcc / glib should I use |
| 14:08.14 | mickeyl | aha here we go |
| 14:08.26 | mickeyl | ~lart me for accidantly removing SCCS dirs |
| 14:08.27 | jskcr | 3.3.4 gcc / glibc 2.3.3 bombs out |
| 14:08.37 | hrw | jskcr: we usually use 3.4.3 and glibc 2.3.2+20040726 |
| 14:08.48 | jskcr | cool leme try that |
| 14:08.52 | mickeyl | makepatch: patch contains 893 revisions from 533 files |
| 14:08.52 | mickeyl | woot |
| 14:09.13 | mickeyl | koen: major update in all opie files |
| 14:09.19 | mickeyl | koen: see CIA |
| 14:09.28 | jskcr | PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc = "2.3.2+cvs20040726" PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.3" PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.3" PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc = "3.4.3" |
| 14:10.06 | mickeyl | cia ? |
| 14:10.15 | jskcr | yes the package CIA |
| 14:10.45 | hrw | mickeyl: finally opie-*.inc? great |
| 14:10.49 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 14:10.51 | mickeyl | had to be done |
| 14:10.53 | mickeyl | now |
| 14:11.09 | hrw | ~hail mickeyl for 1.3182.1.1 |
| 14:11.11 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickeyl for 1.3182.1.1 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:11.11 | mickeyl | took me the whole morning |
| 14:11.13 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 14:11.54 | mickeyl | i'm leaving for sports now and start a build to sanity check everything |
| 14:11.58 | mickeyl | hope i didn't break too much |
| 14:12.00 | mickeyl | bbl |
| 14:12.01 | hrw | good job (which I have not to do now ;) |
| 14:12.03 | mickeyl | :) |
| 14:12.05 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 14:12.09 | hrw | see you mickey|sports |
| 14:14.31 | bluelightning | night all |
| 14:15.00 | hrw | n8 bluelightning |
| 14:16.07 | hrw | Bernardo: which gpsd works ok with qpegps? maybe we should release working combo instead of latest (but nonworking) one? |
| 14:16.22 | hrw | ~lart mediatech keyboards |
| 14:16.32 | Bernardo | hrw: right now, I'm afraid none works |
| 14:16.42 | Bernardo | 'night bluelightning |
| 14:17.19 | hrw | Bernardo: ;( |
| 14:17.30 | Bernardo | I hadn't checked (read used gps at all) since I submitted patches to both |
| 14:17.44 | Bernardo | about 1 year ago |
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| 14:17.53 | Bernardo | then we had both working |
| 14:17.58 | jskcr | ~lart gcc 3.3.4 |
| 14:18.22 | Bernardo | I think I migth be able to get a patch out for qpegps, *IF* I get some time to do that. |
| 14:18.53 | thomaskorwed | anyone know any good pickup lines for hitting on girls? |
| 14:18.58 | Bernardo | Mostly it is about changing a couple of the commands it is sending to gpsd, and changing a little the parsing of the return values |
| 14:19.22 | Bernardo | thomaskorwed: if we did, we wouldn't be here chatting on irc about operating systems and such |
| 14:19.46 | hrw | my gf is in other room |
| 14:19.55 | thomaskorwed | here is a good one: how do you like your eggs for breakfast? fertalized? - jk jk that is just wrong lol |
| 14:20.00 | jskcr | hmm /stuff/build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc-lib/sh3-linux/3.3.4/cc1 is being used even though I sed 3.4.3 as my PREFERED |
| 14:20.12 | jskcr | s/sed/set |
| 14:20.57 | thomaskorwed | heh here are some funny ones at http://www.picupx.com/ its like an infinite supply of pickup lines lol |
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| 14:22.57 | hrw | thomaskorwed: it is NOT a channel about catching girls |
| 14:23.15 | hrw | jskcr: rm -rf tmpdir and restart build |
| 14:24.10 | hrw | :) |
| 14:24.21 | jskcr | lol it looks like the openenbedded got hacked by link spammers |
| 14:24.34 | hrw | jskcr: old oe wiki? |
| 14:24.46 | jskcr | http://openembedded.org/oe_wiki/index.php/DeveloperFaq |
| 14:24.52 | jskcr | ya |
| 14:25.10 | hrw | old oe wiki.. we know - we just dont have a time to move all data from it to new wiki ;9 |
| 14:25.14 | hrw | ;( |
| 14:25.28 | hrw | ~lart mediatech once more |
| 14:25.54 | jskcr | hrw: what PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc should I be using Im haveing a hell of a time compileing it |
| 14:26.04 | hrw | mediatech - Polish company which make cheap keyboards, mouses, speakers etc.. |
| 14:26.12 | jskcr | Im using PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.3" |
| 14:26.25 | hrw | jskcr: we use glibc 2.3.2+cvs20040726 |
| 14:26.37 | jskcr | its still bombing out |
| 14:27.05 | hrw | works for us - or atleast for arm |
| 14:27.06 | jskcr | I set PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc = "3.4.3" but with a ps -ef it shows its using 3.3.4 |
| 14:27.12 | jskcr | im doin sh3 |
| 14:27.19 | hrw | I know |
| 14:27.27 | hrw | dreamcast? |
| 14:27.35 | jskcr | no for jornada 680 |
| 14:27.47 | hrw | a.. |
| 14:27.56 | jskcr | got any ideas? |
| 14:28.16 | hrw | nope - never tried something other then collie (arm) |
| 14:38.19 | jskcr | I think I found it :) |
| 14:39.15 | hrw | cool |
| 14:39.38 | jskcr | I found the settings from the site where the feeds are :) |
| 14:41.30 | Bernardo | hrw: afair, qpegps was easy to fix |
| 14:41.50 | jskcr | I read something on slashdot yesterday about a possible forking of gcc |
| 14:41.53 | Bernardo | it has a central loop, timer based, that sends a string of commands to gpsd and parses the result |
| 14:42.15 | hrw | Bernardo: qpegps authors know problem? |
| 14:42.54 | Bernardo | don't know, I haven't followed the mailing list in ages, and qpegps seems a bit in "slow burn" mode |
| 14:43.06 | hrw | ah |
| 14:43.17 | Bernardo | I think I'll try to build the patch, and then submit it... might get more results |
| 14:43.41 | hrw | yep |
| 14:43.59 | hrw | too many qtopia software is going to be non-maintained by authors |
| 14:44.10 | Bernardo | ? |
| 14:44.11 | Bernardo | why that? |
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| 14:46.07 | hrw | Bernardo: I sent patches to few programs - no response |
| 14:46.45 | hrw | or 'i will look when got time' and after few months: 'sorry, no time to look' |
| 14:52.47 | Bernardo | I C |
| 14:52.55 | Bernardo | it happens too many times |
| 14:53.59 | hrw | oh yes.. |
| 14:54.23 | jskcr | Its all fun and games till it dosnt compile any more. |
| 14:54.38 | hrw | I dont even start to write 'todo' list with application ideas.. i just dont have time for oe/OZ>>> |
| 14:59.14 | RP | We really need to distrubute a semi built development environment. That way people wouldn't need to wade into oe as far to fix their programs... |
| 15:00.45 | pb_ | RP: bitbake meta-sdk, put the tarball on your website, job done. |
| 15:01.42 | hrw | we have to distribute oz sdk with 3.5.3 |
| 15:02.11 | RP | pb_: We should probably advertise that. I'm not sure my website would like large files like that mind :-/ |
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| 15:19.58 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:20.09 | hrw | hi chouimat |
| 15:56.16 | Bernardo | brb |
| 16:01.37 | hrw | bye |
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| 16:51.09 | CIA-3 | 03pb 07 * r1.3141.1.3 10openembedded/packages/gcc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add gcc from csl-arm-branch |
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| 17:07.37 | jskcr | Is anyone here running bitbake and suse 9.2 |
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| 17:19.00 | treke|home | mornin |
| 17:25.01 | jskcr | hey treke |
| 17:25.14 | jskcr | What distro should I use for oe is gentoo okay |
| 17:25.26 | jskcr | Ive had a pain in the ass time with suse 9.2 |
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| 17:31.41 | treke|home | any distro should work fine |
| 17:32.27 | treke|home | any reasonably modern distro that is |
| 17:33.32 | pb_ | hi treke |
| 17:34.19 | treke|home | hey your pbness |
| 17:47.49 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3188 10openembedded/packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie.inc: libqpe-opie: inherit opie |
| 17:52.55 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3189 10openembedded/packages/libqpe/ (libqpe-opie.inc libqpe-opie_1.2.0.bb): libqpe-opie: revert last change and fix it properly this time |
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| 18:10.54 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3190 10openembedded/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): readd TAG in opie-pics and opie-sounds |
| 18:14.54 | mickeyl | any idea why alwin changed the sd/mmc fstab entry for kernel 2.6 to noauto ? |
| 18:16.16 | drw | hi mickeyl |
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| 18:18.37 | kergoth | why would you need auto? shouldnt a hotplug event get generated for it, to mount it that way? (same logic as not using 'auto' on CF wireless interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 18:18.49 | kergoth | s/interfaces/interface/ |
| 18:18.59 | kergoth | morning |
| 18:19.02 | mickeyl | aha |
| 18:19.09 | mickeyl | didn't know that |
| 18:19.12 | mickeyl | morning |
| 18:19.20 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3191 10openembedded/packages/opie-keytabs/ (opie-keytabs_1.2.0.bb opie-keytabs_cvs.bb): opie-keytabs: reintroduce tag |
| 18:19.44 | zecke|away | mickeyl: oh time for includes ;) |
| 18:19.49 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 18:19.55 | mickeyl | took me hours, but it was necessary |
| 18:20.14 | pb_ | morning kergoth |
| 18:20.14 | zecke|away | mickeyl: oh you completed everything? |
| 18:20.18 | mickeyl | yes, i did |
| 18:20.24 | mickeyl | apart from bits i missed |
| 18:21.56 | zecke|away | ~hail mickeyl |
| 18:21.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to mickeyl and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:22.59 | mickeyl | hmm either our timezone data are wrong or LosAngeles moved closer to NewYork |
| 18:23.39 | pb_ | heh |
| 18:24.08 | zecke|away | hehe |
| 18:24.29 | treke|home | didnt see anything in the news last night |
| 18:24.35 | treke|home | and it was still there yesterday :p |
| 18:24.41 | Ken|JLime | perhaps it would be better to go out and check before i change stuff :P |
| 18:24.53 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:24.58 | Crofton | Ken|JLime, did you get your touchscreen working yesterady? |
| 18:25.15 | Ken|JLime | well, touchscreen yes :D but still not opie |
| 18:25.25 | Ken|JLime | you? |
| 18:25.26 | Crofton | hmm |
| 18:25.36 | Crofton | no, haven't been able to look at it since then |
| 18:25.49 | Crofton | Monday is the earliest I can look at it |
| 18:26.18 | Ken|JLime | Aha, well it was easier to get working than expected i just added the correct /dev/.. device and it worked right away |
| 18:26.26 | Crofton | hmm |
| 18:26.46 | Crofton | It's low priority for me |
| 18:26.55 | Crofton | I have some other stuff that also needs to work |
| 18:27.08 | mickeyl | ~seen Wimpie |
| 18:27.10 | ibot | wimpie <u19809@cable-62-205-106-215.upc.chello.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #familiar, 73d 2h 55m 3s ago, saying: 'dmesg shows usb_recv: RPError 27'. |
| 18:27.30 | mickeyl | ~seen wimpi |
| 18:27.31 | ibot | mickeyl: i haven't seen 'wimpi' |
| 18:27.34 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 18:27.45 | Crofton | kergoth, ? |
| 18:27.57 | mickeyl | bbl |
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| 18:31.14 | zecke|away | ~users |
| 18:31.15 | ibot | from memory, users is Mithrandi |
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| 18:40.17 | matsavhalev | has anyone managed to build an 860 image for 3.5.3? |
| 18:43.24 | Pigi | bbl |
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| 18:59.05 | Ken|JLime | i've added the device /dev/ts0 in my devicetable minimal.txt file |
| 18:59.17 | Ken|JLime | and it ends up in the rootfs file as it should |
| 18:59.22 | Ken|JLime | but when i bootup its gone |
| 19:00.47 | pb_ | the -minimal device table is only used for initial bootstrapping. |
| 19:00.56 | pb_ | you need to be editing the non-minimal one. |
| 19:01.07 | Ken|JLime | aha |
| 19:01.08 | Ken|JLime | thx |
| 19:01.29 | Ken|JLime | hmm but how come it ends up in the finished rootfs? |
| 19:01.45 | pb_ | that's what the initial one does. |
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| 19:01.59 | Ken|JLime | aha |
| 19:02.05 | pb_ | it creates a minimal set of devices in the rootfs to bootstrap the system. |
| 19:02.18 | pb_ | then, that /dev is overmounted with a ramdisk and populated from the full device table. |
| 19:02.47 | Ken|JLime | great, i'll look into it. |
| 19:02.59 | Ken|JLime | is it in same dir as the minimal one? |
| 19:04.14 | gremlin[it] | perlguru are u here ? |
| 19:04.25 | pb_ | no, it's in the initscripts directory. |
| 19:16.16 | perlguru | gremlin[it], i am here |
| 19:16.46 | gremlin[it] | hi |
| 19:17.06 | gremlin[it] | i would know how to check if a perl package is correctly installed |
| 19:17.27 | perlguru | try using the module |
| 19:17.31 | gremlin[it] | exactly perl-xml-parser ... :( |
| 19:17.57 | gremlin[it] | perlguru, i'm about dumb about perl ... explain better ;) |
| 19:18.11 | perlguru | perldoc XML::Parser |
| 19:18.21 | perlguru | this will give u a manual page |
| 19:18.41 | perlguru | and maybe there is an example in it. run that to test |
| 19:19.22 | gremlin[it] | the mhh but when a new perl library/package is istalled how perl interpreter know it's present ? |
| 19:20.17 | perlguru | it knows. |
| 19:20.40 | perlguru | modules are always installed in the perl library (or it should be) |
| 19:21.01 | perlguru | perl searches the PERL5LIB path (= @INC) |
| 19:22.01 | gremlin[it] | mhh the oe package gnome-themes fail cause in configure stage a perl check about XML::Parser fail ... but seem it's installed correctly :( |
| 19:23.06 | gremlin[it] | >>> |
| 19:23.09 | gremlin[it] | | checking for perl... /mnt/hda/oe/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/perl |
| 19:23.10 | gremlin[it] | | configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool |
| 19:23.11 | gremlin[it] | <<< |
| 19:23.43 | perlguru | is XML::Parser staged? |
| 19:24.05 | gremlin[it] | yes |
| 19:24.27 | gremlin[it] | but seem it's installed in staging/local instead of staging/x86_64 |
| 19:24.30 | perlguru | try setting PERL5LIB to the staging path |
| 19:24.44 | gremlin[it] | so i try copy by hands directory ... |
| 19:25.15 | perlguru | i do not know OE that well |
| 19:25.41 | perlguru | but it seems, the trick is to set PERL5LIB correctly |
| 19:26.01 | gremlin[it] | ok |
| 19:26.02 | perlguru | try searching an other package that uses it |
| 19:26.47 | gremlin[it] | perlguru, PERL5LIB is the path where i have XML/Parser dir ? |
| 19:27.16 | perlguru | PERL5LIB is the path where the modules are installed |
| 19:27.40 | perlguru | in this case the staging dir, but runtime it is somewhere elese ;) |
| 19:35.15 | gremlin[it] | perlguru nope ... don't work :( |
| 19:37.08 | gremlin[it] | perlguru on a desktop system PERL5LIB sould be "/usr" or something more such as "/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5" ? |
| 19:43.54 | perlguru | something like /etc/perl/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/x86_64-linux |
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| 20:46.21 | gremlin[it] | mhh in handhelds.org project's page there is no h3600 page .. they start with h3800 for ipaq :( ... where i can find h3600 info about hardware |
| 20:46.41 | gremlin[it] | i mean linux porting to h3600 |
| 20:54.34 | koen|tv | gremlin[it]: that would be a question for #handhelds.org |
| 20:55.33 | gremlin[it] | yep .. just if someone know ;) |
| 21:00.43 | treke|home | kergoth not shown his face yet? |
| 21:01.03 | Ken|JLime | he's out or something :) |
| 21:02.56 | Ken|JLime | why doesnt opie-taskbar package get qte-fonts-common installed |
| 21:03.06 | Ken|JLime | cause without it, it wont do anything |
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| 21:06.25 | pb_ | treke|home: kergoth did surface briefly a few hours back. |
| 21:11.50 | Ken|JLime | zecke you here man= |
| 21:11.50 | Ken|JLime | ? |
| 21:29.03 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07 * r1.3192 10openembedded/packages/libusb/libusb_0.1.10a.bb: libusb_0.1.10a.bb: new version, 64 bit people may want to check if the 0.1.8 patch is still needed |
| 21:43.15 | Ken|JLime | any opie guru around? |
| 21:43.54 | reenoo_ | Ken|JLime: -> #opie |
| 21:44.13 | Ken|JLime | ah, right |
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| 23:15.32 | koen|tv | 'night all |
| 23:40.10 | Pigi | nite all |
| 23:40.47 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3191.1.1 10openembedded/conf/machine/tosa.conf: fix tosa IPKG_ARCH |
| 23:45.49 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3194 10openembedded/conf/machine/tosa.conf: tosa.conf: fix stupid typo. need to concentrate more... |
| 23:54.52 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3195 10openembedded/conf/machine/tosa.conf: tosa.conf: add ROOT_FLASH_SIZE |