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| 00:17.54 | abentzon | hello |
| 00:21.09 | abentzon | not much going on in here :) |
| 00:24.24 | bluelightning | sleep time for most ppl |
| 00:25.40 | abentzon | apparently :) |
| 00:49.09 | kergoth | treke: you play nwn anymore? http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/modules/data/1081099788000.shtml looks nice. random dungeon generation for nwn. minor game modifications. cant rest without food, etc. |
| 00:49.25 | treke | kergoth: not often, but every now and then |
| 00:49.48 | treke | I occaisionally try playing multiplayer |
| 00:50.01 | treke | can't stand the idea of doing single player over again |
| 00:51.28 | kergoth | gets boring. once you've gone through it once, you know whats going to happen. with a group at least there's some group dynamics, can help people out and stuff |
| 00:51.42 | treke | yup |
| 00:51.49 | treke | been playing WoW recently |
| 00:52.18 | kergoth | i know a lot of people who have been. i've been avoiding it, not wanting to get hooked |
| 00:52.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:52.34 | kergoth | you like it? |
| 00:52.35 | treke | hehe |
| 00:52.43 | treke | it's fun with people you know |
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| 01:11.30 | treke | down to two remaining problems with this project |
| 01:11.34 | treke | one of which isn't a showstopper |
| 01:16.39 | treke | I wonder if anything can be stripped out of the ipkg status file to cut down on storage |
| 01:18.07 | treke | suck. looks like the bulk of the file is depends |
| 01:21.38 | CIA-8 | 03kergoth 07 * r1.3176 10openembedded/packages/unionfs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add unionfs version 1.0.11. |
| 01:28.21 | kergoth | there we are, wiped my laptop |
| 01:28.30 | kergoth | now i can bring it and my badge by work |
| 01:32.22 | kergoth | ljp: i like the new beck :) |
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| 01:40.14 | ljp | ya, me also. glad he got off his mamby-pamby |
| 01:40.52 | kergoth | e-pro has a great beat to it |
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| 01:43.46 | ljp | itunes have a few remixes |
| 01:44.36 | kergoth | i'm looking forward to the new Garbage as well |
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| 01:52.50 | ljp | me too |
| 02:11.29 | treke|home | kergoth: able to clean your desktop? |
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| 02:17.50 | kergoth | treke|home: cant get to it from here. either its off, or crashed, or a coworker took it |
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| 02:47.26 | treke|home | ljp: lucky |
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| 03:48.29 | ljp | ya, I never knew before I got here, that "Easter Monday" was a holiday :) |
| 03:49.06 | chouimat|sg1 | ljp: hey |
| 03:49.46 | ljp | hiya |
| 03:50.39 | bluelightning | chouimat|sg1: woot! :) |
| 03:50.52 | bluelightning | me too |
| 03:55.13 | ljp | hmm, I just got opieplayer2 xcompiled with gcc3 :) |
| 04:06.01 | punkass | so kergoth, any thoughts on why the fetch is failing? |
| 04:06.19 | punkass | and not even creating a log file |
| 04:08.52 | punkass | i fact does anyone know why the fetch command would be failing |
| 04:09.14 | punkass | i = in |
| 04:22.15 | punkass | hmm this is making me crazy |
| 04:22.31 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
| 04:23.01 | punkass | anyone know why this might happen: NOTE: package quilt-native-0.39-r0: task do_fetch: failed |
| 04:23.01 | punkass | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
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| 04:55.16 | punkass | anyone? i cant get anything via cvs through bitbake |
| 04:56.01 | punkass | i pulled bitbake down just to make sure there was not a new version |
| 04:56.11 | punkass | and reinstalled it, but that didnt help |
| 05:11.21 | punkass | . |
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| 07:42.11 | emte | heya raster |
| 07:42.23 | emte | hows the battle? |
| 07:43.22 | raster | emte: i'm meeeelting |
| 07:43.24 | raster | meeeeelting! |
| 07:51.27 | emte | lol |
| 07:51.44 | emte | warn season there? or the ac broke :P |
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| 09:37.57 | CIA-8 | 03koen 07 * r1.3174.1.1 10openembedded/ (2 files in 2 dirs): x11_cvs.bb: fix is upstream now, threads.patch is obsolete now |
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| 09:42.48 | koen | good morning all |
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| 10:13.57 | greg72 | morning |
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| 10:49.15 | dmit | mickey|bbl: ping |
| 10:49.20 | dmit | hi all |
| 10:50.37 | dmit | would anyone make a suggestion on what could be wrong here? - http://pastebin.ca/8219 |
| 10:51.01 | dmit | kerlnel does not compile |
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| 11:52.33 | mickeyl | *yawn* |
| 11:52.35 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 11:53.26 | mickeyl | dmit: the compiler is too old. both options have been introduced late in the 3.4 series |
| 11:53.49 | bluelightning | hey mickeyl |
| 11:54.32 | mickeyl | my dvb-t setup finally works |
| 11:54.39 | dmit | mickeyl: hmm, you mean compiler on my host system?.. |
| 11:55.12 | dmit | mickeyl, what is it by the way - dvb? |
| 11:55.18 | mickeyl | yes |
| 11:55.27 | mickeyl | digital video broadcast over terrestrial |
| 11:55.38 | dmit | sounds cool ;) |
| 11:55.45 | mickeyl | i have a usb box, i wonder if my SL6000 is fast enough to do the realtime mpeg-2 decoding |
| 11:55.53 | mickeyl | (yes, your host compiler is too old.) |
| 11:55.54 | dmit | and it is? |
| 11:56.07 | mickeyl | i don't think so |
| 11:56.18 | mickeyl | can't test now, i'm happy to have it working on the PC after days of fiddling |
| 11:56.22 | mickeyl | heh |
| 11:56.41 | dmit | lucky you, at least someone has OE working |
| 11:56.45 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 11:56.52 | mickeyl | see here: HOSTCC arch/um/util/mk_constants_kern.o |
| 11:56.52 | mickeyl | 031 cc1: error: unrecognized option `-Wdeclaration-after-statement' |
| 11:56.53 | mickeyl | 032 cc1: error: unrecognized option `-fno-unit-at-a-time' |
| 11:56.59 | mickeyl | so, that means your HOSTCC should be upgraded |
| 11:57.01 | dmit | ye |
| 11:57.30 | dmit | may it affect also other things? or this happens for um only? |
| 11:57.46 | mickeyl | never seen anything other bailing out |
| 11:58.08 | mickeyl | fyi, 3.4.3 should be ok |
| 11:58.23 | dmit | right now trying epia machine type, will see the results soon |
| 11:59.08 | dmit | BTW it already gave me a NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6 |
| 11:59.15 | dmit | and NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libm.so.6 |
| 11:59.31 | dmit | is it vital? |
| 11:59.37 | mickeyl | no, that's just cosmetics |
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| 12:01.10 | reenoo_ | morning |
| 12:01.16 | dmit | mickeyl, tried the openzaurus distro, but it fails on TARGET_FPU="soft", had to exclude it |
| 12:04.07 | mickeyl | "fails on" |
| 12:04.10 | mickeyl | ... ? |
| 12:04.40 | dmit | i mean this option lead compiler to error, sorry 4 English |
| 12:04.57 | mickeyl | english is ok, it's just that I need error messages, not your interpretation of those :) |
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| 12:05.31 | dmit | ic, but unfortunately i destroyed the log by mistake ;) |
| 12:05.41 | mickeyl | ok, next time then |
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| 12:11.10 | dmit | so what about adding machine type and distro to some kind of 'generic' & 'generic-x86'? |
| 12:11.40 | mickeyl | generic doesn't make sense to me |
| 12:11.53 | mickeyl | without TARGET_ARCH you can't compile a cross compiler |
| 12:12.14 | mickeyl | i need to talk to pb_ if x86 is useful |
| 12:12.20 | mickeyl | or if we rather want to use epia |
| 12:12.49 | dmit | but why not to have it just for completeness? |
| 12:13.19 | mickeyl | the sake of completeness is nice, but in general I try not to add things which are not necessary, because the more files, the more maintenance burden |
| 12:13.40 | mickeyl | and we are already pretty overloaded |
| 12:13.50 | mickeyl | in that particular case though, I'll think about x86.conf |
| 12:14.12 | mickeyl | hehe, yeah, that's a funny thing |
| 12:14.40 | dmit | fine, otherwise it looks like you target on specific platforms only |
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| 12:15.04 | mickeyl | right |
| 12:15.13 | dmit | you mean that is? |
| 12:15.21 | mickeyl | no, i mean your suggestion is right |
| 12:15.43 | mickeyl | we are platform independent and should show it |
| 12:30.12 | mickeyl | cia ? |
| 12:30.28 | CIA-8 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3178 10openembedded/conf/ (distro/generic.conf machine/x86-uml.conf machine/x86.conf): add generic distro configuration and x86 machine configuration |
| 12:30.41 | mickeyl | dmit: here we are |
| 12:31.53 | mithro | howdy people |
| 12:32.00 | mickeyl | cheers mickeyl |
| 12:32.03 | mickeyl | urhgs |
| 12:32.08 | mickeyl | ~lart tab completion |
| 12:32.11 | mickeyl | morning mithro |
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| 12:35.45 | bluelightning | hi mithro |
| 12:35.45 | mickeyl | any idea why pi-sync.net forum has been closed? |
| 12:35.52 | mickeyl | hrw|gone: did you insult him too much? |
| 12:35.52 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:35.57 | mithro | whats up? |
| 12:36.05 | mickeyl | last preparations for opie 1.2.0 |
| 12:36.06 | mithro | pi-sync? |
| 12:36.15 | reenoo_ | hey mithro |
| 12:37.29 | mithro | reenoo_: you figure out what to do? |
| 12:38.04 | reenoo_ | mithro: regarding libmpeg2? no, not yet. what do you think? |
| 12:38.20 | mithro | dunno |
| 12:38.25 | mithro | what ever works better |
| 12:38.36 | mithro | i thought i added vlc before |
| 12:38.45 | mithro | but i guess i never endedup pushing it |
| 12:38.53 | reenoo_ | oh. heh |
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| 12:39.23 | mithro | vlc has both qte and gpe clients |
| 12:40.34 | reenoo_ | yeah, I've only added a -gpe version. if you still have a -qt one that would be nice to have I guess |
| 12:41.35 | mithro | no time atm |
| 12:42.28 | reenoo_ | ah, ok |
| 12:43.23 | reenoo_ | the only actual differences between the libmpeg2.bb and my mpeg2dec.bb appear to be a more fine grained packaging (FILES_*) in the mpeg2dec.bb and a Makefile.patch in the libmpeg2.bb |
| 12:43.43 | reenoo_ | happen to remember what the Makefile.patch was for? |
| 12:44.13 | mithro | nope |
| 12:44.13 | reenoo_ | (I didn't need to patch anything here) |
| 12:44.16 | mithro | look at the file :) |
| 12:44.49 | mithro | back then SDL needed -lsdlmain stuff |
| 12:44.54 | mithro | it could be that |
| 12:45.52 | reenoo_ | ah, nm. I misread the patch. (extra vs. extract) |
| 12:46.05 | mithro | ? |
| 12:46.12 | reenoo_ | +extract_mpeg2_LDADD = $(libvo) $(libmpeg2) $(libmpeg2convert) |
| 12:46.54 | reenoo_ | I read that as "extra_mpeg2..." which didn't make sense to me |
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| 14:20.09 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:22.03 | koen | hey chouimat |
| 14:23.42 | zecke | hey |
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| 14:32.53 | florian | hi all |
| 14:33.03 | Haris-Pilton | hi |
| 14:33.12 | mickeyl | o |
| 14:33.13 | mickeyl | yo |
| 14:33.18 | Haris-Pilton | yo mickeyl |
| 14:35.47 | koen | hey mickeyl |
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| 14:56.56 | koen | Running resolve to apply new work ... |
| 14:57.01 | koen | takepatch: 3231 new revisions, 0 conflicts in 1150 files |
| 14:57.20 | koen | I guees I should update my OZ tree more oftern :) |
| 14:58.32 | zecke | lol (uchar*)0xdeadbeef |
| 14:58.55 | florian | :-) |
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| 15:01.02 | Pigi | Ciao all |
| 15:01.58 | florian | hi Pigi |
| 15:02.28 | Pigi | hi florian. |
| 15:02.28 | koen | hey Pigi |
| 15:02.28 | koen | is the new ipkg in OE already? |
| 15:02.35 | Pigi | no AFAIK |
| 15:02.49 | Pigi | I'm still trying to understand how does the oe works. |
| 15:03.03 | Pigi | Usually is pb_ that "import" the new releases. |
| 15:03.51 | Pigi | I'm having a strange problem after "bk pull"ing the oe tree. |
| 15:04.18 | Pigi | the rootfs phase don't complete. |
| 15:05.12 | Pigi | complaining that can't fine some kernel modules. |
| 15:05.17 | Pigi | s/fine/find |
| 15:06.19 | CIA-8 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3179 10openembedded/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.3.conf: switch oz-3.5.3 to release mode and update |
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| 15:06.56 | zecke | drw: hey |
| 15:07.01 | chouimat | hi zecke mickeyl |
| 15:07.13 | drw | hi zecke |
| 15:13.32 | Pigi | ~seen pb_ |
| 15:13.34 | ibot | pb_ <~pb@2002:3e03:42cc:2:20a:5eff:fe00:391e> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 20h 31m 1s ago, saying: 'later all'. |
| 15:14.49 | mickeyl | what version do you want to have in OE? |
| 15:14.53 | mickeyl | i'll bump it then |
| 15:15.46 | Pigi | the last one is 0.99.145, but I will wiat until I have understood a new patch submitted to oe ( but not in cvs for some path ... |
| 15:15.46 | Pigi | thx anyway |
| 15:15.56 | Pigi | s/wiat/wait |
| 15:16.00 | mickeyl | hmm ok |
| 15:16.23 | Pigi | this way I will reduce the enthropy in ipkg |
| 15:16.24 | mickeyl | i want to build a release candidate for oz 3.5.3 on the easter weekend, so I'd like to have a known working version |
| 15:16.33 | mickeyl | when is your patch due? |
| 15:17.00 | mickeyl | ah nm |
| 15:17.41 | drw | mickeyl: I was planning on doing an OZ3.5.3/c7x0/Opie build this weekend too |
| 15:17.58 | drw | OZ3.5.3pre really |
| 15:18.36 | mickeyl | very good. I'll build a 2.6 rootfs for opie, so please set KERNEL_VERSION = "2.6" |
| 15:18.57 | Pigi | I would like to finish tonite, but I can't still find the patch that has been submitted in oe. Thus I have to diff every file from my local cvs copy and my local oe tree. |
| 15:19.08 | Pigi | I don't like this very much btw. |
| 15:19.44 | drw | mickeyl: yep |
| 15:21.22 | mickeyl | Pigi: is the improved ipkg-link in cvs yet ? |
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| 15:21.43 | mickeyl | i.e. the one that honors ipkg.conf |
| 15:21.56 | Pigi | noclouds, sorry. Not yet. It would be done tonite too. (that's more easy :) ) |
| 15:22.05 | mickeyl | good |
| 15:22.05 | Pigi | s/noclouds/no |
| 15:26.05 | Pigi | mickeyl, do you mean the patch for bug #1305 ? |
| 15:28.06 | mickeyl | yes |
| 15:33.06 | Pigi | applying now. |
| 15:33.55 | mickeyl | very good |
| 15:38.28 | Pigi | is this patch in oe too ? ( the one in bugzilla don't apply automatically |
| 15:38.55 | mickeyl | no |
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| 15:39.44 | Pigi | gaspppp. So I should apply it by hand. Not a nice info :( |
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| 15:41.51 | CosmicPenguin | back in my day, we had to apply patches by hand all the time |
| 15:41.53 | CosmicPenguin | in the show |
| 15:41.56 | CosmicPenguin | s/show/snow/ |
| 15:42.04 | CosmicPenguin | walking uphill, with a wolf eating our leg |
| 15:42.52 | Pigi | ehehehe |
| 15:49.29 | CosmicPenguin | its strange to me that curl doesn't understand TFTP |
| 15:55.27 | koen | Pigi: is there a compelling reason to keep the lists in flash instead of in a ramdisk? |
| 15:56.03 | mickeyl | on reboot you'd lose your package database |
| 15:56.13 | mickeyl | that wouldn't befun |
| 15:56.17 | koen | only the feeds |
| 15:56.23 | mickeyl | oh the lists |
| 15:56.25 | mickeyl | not the status |
| 15:56.26 | mickeyl | right |
| 15:56.30 | mickeyl | sounds like a good idea |
| 15:56.47 | koen | that saves people from death by ipkg update |
| 15:56.57 | mickeyl | actually a very good idea |
| 15:57.01 | mickeyl | to me |
| 15:57.17 | mickeyl | should teach ipkg to creat the lists in /tmp |
| 15:57.25 | kergoth`zzz | nah |
| 15:57.28 | mickeyl | or in var |
| 15:57.30 | koen | the downside is increased bandwith usage |
| 15:57.34 | kergoth`zzz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.40 | mickeyl | yeah, var |
| 15:57.41 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 15:57.43 | mickeyl | morning k |
| 15:57.45 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:57.54 | Pigi | koen, there is an option in ipkg.conf to decide where to put the lists file, actually |
| 15:58.24 | koen | cool |
| 15:59.26 | Pigi | it is already in oe , as is an old patch ( 0.99.143 ) |
| 16:00.07 | CosmicPenguin | just for lists, or for status too? |
| 16:00.14 | florian | that would be a great option for 16mb flash units |
| 16:00.37 | Pigi | if you have "lists_dir keyword /where/do/you/want/" in ipkg.conf you're done :) |
| 16:00.50 | mickeyl | woot |
| 16:00.52 | Pigi | CosmicPenguin, no, not for status atm |
| 16:01.15 | Pigi | We can't put the status in an unsafe place anyway |
| 16:01.33 | Pigi | if we loose it .... aaaarghhh |
| 16:01.59 | Pigi | koen, I usually have "lists_dir ext /mnt/card/" |
| 16:02.12 | Pigi | ( the keyword is for future use |
| 16:07.44 | Pigi | bbl |
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| 16:25.14 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
| 16:25.37 | CosmicPenguin | I was going to say to Pigi - I understand that you can't put status in a unsafe place, but letting people put it someplace other then /usr/lib/ipkg seems to be a good thing |
| 16:25.40 | CosmicPenguin | at least to me |
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| 16:34.47 | gremlin[it] | hi to all |
| 16:35.06 | gremlin[it] | just found something maybe interesting |
| 16:36.22 | gremlin[it] | libxml-parser-perl-native will install in build/tmp/staging/local instead of build/tmp/staging/x86_64 ... |
| 16:36.56 | gremlin[it] | maybe is a reason why XMP::Parser isn't recognised as installed :( |
| 16:38.39 | gremlin[it] | arrgghh perlguru is ecaping !!! |
| 16:38.43 | gremlin[it] | :) |
| 16:48.19 | gremlin[it] | all away ... |
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| 17:21.28 | Crofton | kergoth, opie boots on the OSK |
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| 17:25.58 | kergoth | Crofton: nice |
| 17:26.16 | Crofton | yeah, the touchscreen isn't working yet |
| 17:26.28 | Crofton | When I get some time for that I'll look at it |
| 17:26.34 | Crofton | gpe didn't build for me |
| 17:26.37 | kergoth | you have the driver built into the kernel right? |
| 17:26.48 | Crofton | I think so, but I need to go over that |
| 17:26.58 | Crofton | I had some kernel config problems |
| 17:27.02 | kergoth | probably just a matter of providing an osk specific /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh to set TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 or something |
| 17:27.08 | kergoth | so it knows what device to use |
| 17:27.11 | Crofton | Yeah |
| 17:27.21 | Crofton | I need to do real work today |
| 17:27.21 | kergoth | thats good news though :) |
| 17:27.23 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:27.25 | Crofton | Yes |
| 17:27.29 | Crofton | the graphic is cool |
| 17:27.47 | kergoth | you should send a mail to l-o-o-s. someone was asking about Opie on omap, but i never got a chance to play with it |
| 17:28.01 | Crofton | I am making some additions the arm-linux site file |
| 17:28.15 | Crofton | loos? |
| 17:28.25 | Crofton | ah linux open source |
| 17:28.29 | Crofton | will do |
| 17:28.57 | Crofton | I needed to add some config hints for the CORBA package I am building |
| 17:29.43 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:29.55 | Crofton | I need sizeof long double :) |
| 17:30.10 | Crofton | I hope the answer I get from the intel build are the same |
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| 17:34.29 | kergoth | Crofton: hmm, thats odd. we patch autoconf so that AC_CHECK_SIZEOF should be able to figure out the sizes at compile time even when crosscompiling |
| 17:34.37 | kergoth | Crofton: does corba provide its own sizeof macros? |
| 17:34.51 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 17:35.38 | Crofton | where can I check? |
| 17:36.06 | Crofton | in configure.ac |
| 17:36.26 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:36.31 | Crofton | i have things like AC_CHECK_SIZEOF(long double, 16) |
| 17:36.42 | kergoth | okay, those shoudl be working without putting anything in the site files |
| 17:36.45 | kergoth | if they arent, something is busted |
| 17:38.23 | Crofton | maybe my bustage is somewhere else .. |
| 17:39.37 | Crofton | in config.log I have things like ac_cv_sizeof_bool=0 |
| 17:40.13 | kergoth | yeah, sounds like a problem with our modified sizeof macros |
| 17:40.17 | kergoth | i'll look into it |
| 17:40.31 | Crofton | you need a list of all the zero sizeof's |
| 17:40.34 | Crofton | ? |
| 17:40.36 | kergoth | nah |
| 17:41.13 | Crofton | I hate to ask, but when do you think you will get a chance to look at? |
| 17:43.08 | kergoth | well, its not like i'm employed. i'll look today |
| 17:43.15 | Crofton | thanks |
| 17:43.24 | Crofton | I can find something else to do |
| 17:43.25 | kergoth | thats a pretty critical bug |
| 17:43.31 | Crofton | maybe work on opie :) |
| 17:43.37 | kergoth | who knows how many odd bugs lurk in the behaviors in our packages resulting from that |
| 17:43.40 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:43.48 | Crofton | But i have to take my wife to physical therapy later |
| 17:43.57 | Crofton | ACL surgery last Tuesday |
| 17:44.05 | Crofton | You like gross surgery videos? |
| 17:44.48 | Crofton | The CORBA package I am workign should be a useful addition to OE, looks pretty light weight |
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| 17:46.57 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh.... validation release day |
| 17:47.04 | CosmicPenguin | is there no more hated date on the programmer's calendar? |
| 18:24.03 | RP | evening all |
| 18:24.43 | koen | hey RP |
| 18:48.15 | koen | cbrake: that's why GPE uses an svg for that :) |
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| 18:53.46 | pb_ | evening |
| 18:54.05 | treke | evening |
| 18:54.18 | treke | anyone have a semi 3.5.3 opie image built? |
| 18:57.52 | koen | only a OZ/2.6 gpe-image |
| 18:59.49 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:00.11 | koen | the sharp reflasher is going bezerk |
| 19:00.49 | koen | ~lart sharp |
| 19:05.43 | Crofton|work | any opie gurus around? |
| 19:06.03 | koen | #opie? |
| 19:06.11 | Crofton|work | hmmm |
| 19:06.25 | Crofton|work | I'll try that |
| 19:07.09 | pb_ | good idea |
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| 19:16.41 | kergoth | [13:14:50] <ryno09> Since it's Good Friday, I saw a couple of girls carrying crosses down the street this morning. If they asked, I would have nailed them. |
| 19:18.01 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 19:21.00 | treke | wonder if I can find an inexpensive flight to boston for next week |
| 19:22.26 | chouimat|bored | kergoth: lol |
| 19:29.28 | Crofton|work | kergoth, I tried the |
| 19:29.29 | Crofton|work | [root@max home]# more rootfs2.6/etc/profile.d/tslib.sh |
| 19:29.30 | Crofton|work | TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1 |
| 19:29.48 | kergoth | does /dev/input/event1 exist? is that the device for your touchscreen? |
| 19:29.55 | kergoth | run ts_print_raw at the commandline |
| 19:29.57 | Crofton|work | it appears to be |
| 19:30.02 | kergoth | tslib has useful test apps |
| 19:30.16 | Crofton|work | I cat /dev/input/event1 and play with the touch screen |
| 19:30.26 | Crofton|work | crap scrolls across the screen |
| 19:30.44 | Crofton|work | apparently they didn't get installed :( |
| 19:30.46 | kergoth | again, run ts_print_raw. make sure _tslib_ can talk to it |
| 19:30.51 | kergoth | ah right, theres a seperate package for them |
| 19:30.55 | kergoth | tslib-tests or something |
| 19:31.26 | Ken|JLime | im having same problem |
| 19:31.34 | Ken|JLime | opie says "press anywhere" |
| 19:31.44 | Ken|JLime | :) |
| 19:32.03 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 19:32.10 | Crofton|work | NFS mounted root is handy |
| 19:34.12 | Crofton|work | I have to set the EV to /dev/input/event0 |
| 19:34.29 | Crofton|work | then ts_test says "no raw moduiles loaded" |
| 19:34.35 | kergoth | edit /etc/ts.conf |
| 19:34.38 | kergoth | uncomment module_raw input |
| 19:34.58 | Crofton|work | cool |
| 19:35.23 | kergoth | since there was no standard for touchscreen interface, tslib supports a number of them |
| 19:35.39 | Crofton|work | mucking with ts test now |
| 19:35.50 | kergoth | you'll want to ts_calibrate before trying to use ts_test or ts_print |
| 19:35.57 | kergoth | since those two expect calibrated coordinates |
| 19:36.05 | Ken|JLime | hmm, mine says "no raw modules loaded. ts_config: No such file or directory" |
| 19:36.15 | Crofton|work | vi /etc/ts.conf |
| 19:36.28 | Ken|JLime | theres no module area in /etc/ts.conf |
| 19:36.33 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:36.37 | kergoth | thats all thats in ts.conf |
| 19:36.43 | Crofton|work | I'm assuming this can be fixed by feeding OE info about the target? |
| 19:36.45 | Ken|JLime | ah yeah, i mean no raw module |
| 19:36.56 | kergoth | Crofton|work: yeah, look in packages/tslib/tslib/ |
| 19:37.01 | kergoth | create a directory for your MACHINE |
| 19:37.05 | kergoth | follow what the other machinse do |
| 19:37.16 | Ken|JLime | where should the tslib modules be at? |
| 19:37.25 | Crofton|work | Heh, I will l8r |
| 19:37.34 | Crofton|work | need run soon |
| 19:37.51 | Ken|JLime | dont run now :P |
| 19:37.56 | Ken|JLime | i need all the help i can get :D |
| 19:38.06 | Ken|JLime | im this close to getting opie to work :D |
| 19:38.12 | Crofton|work | Sorry need to take my wife to the physical therapist |
| 19:38.17 | Crofton|work | me too :) |
| 19:38.27 | Ken|JLime | ok, take care man |
| 19:38.34 | Crofton|work | thanks |
| 19:38.47 | Crofton|work | gory surgery videos: |
| 19:39.07 | Crofton|work | http://www.balister.org/~balister/torrents/acl_video.torrent |
| 19:39.12 | Crofton|work | http://www.balister.org/~balister/torrents/acl_video2.torrent |
| 19:39.16 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 19:39.20 | Ken|JLime | kergoth, where should the tslib modules be at? |
| 19:39.44 | kergoth | strace it and look. |
| 19:40.32 | kergoth | or look at the .bb |
| 19:40.32 | kergoth | FILES_libts = "${libdir}/*.so.* ${libdir}/ts/*.so*" |
| 19:40.37 | koen | hmmm |
| 19:40.43 | Crofton | kergoth, Let me know if you need any help with configure sizeof stuff |
| 19:40.45 | kergoth | as you can see there, tslib modules go in /usr/lib/ts/ |
| 19:40.47 | kergoth | Crofton: k |
| 19:40.55 | koen | looks like OZ got a CVSDATE induced X breakage |
| 19:40.55 | Crofton | I'll check in over the weekend etc |
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| 19:43.02 | Ken|JLime | kergoth, all the modules are there |
| 19:45.55 | Ken|JLime | ah, had missed something in my config file |
| 19:58.42 | Ken|JLime | when i run ts_print it prints some data whenever i tap the screen..but its always exact same values |
| 19:59.05 | Ken|JLime | the tslib test program doesnt work either |
| 19:59.14 | treke | blah |
| 19:59.15 | Ken|JLime | whenever i tap the crosshair it vanishes |
| 20:00.17 | Ken|JLime | anywhere i can change the runtime device it uses? |
| 20:00.21 | kergoth | ? |
| 20:00.34 | kergoth | 14:35 < kergoth> you'll want to ts_calibrate before trying to use ts_test or ts_print |
| 20:00.35 | Ken|JLime | i want to try /dev/input/event0 |
| 20:00.38 | kergoth | 14:35 < kergoth> since those two expect calibrated coordinates |
| 20:00.47 | Ken|JLime | ah |
| 20:01.00 | Ken|JLime | :D |
| 20:05.54 | Ken|JLime | kergoth, 'touch crosshair to calibrate' |
| 20:06.04 | Ken|JLime | im very much touching the touchscreen :D |
| 20:06.07 | Ken|JLime | but nothing happens |
| 20:06.13 | koen | ts_printraw will give you the uncalibrated stuff |
| 20:06.13 | Ken|JLime | how can i change the input device? |
| 20:06.29 | koen | export a new TSLIB_TSDEVICE |
| 20:06.47 | kergoth | does your uirc client not have a scrollback? |
| 20:06.48 | kergoth | 12:27 < kergoth> probably just a matter of providing an osk specific /etc/profile.d/tslib.sh to set |
| 20:06.51 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.53 | kergoth | 12:27 < kergoth> so it knows what device to use |
| 20:06.56 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:08.41 | koen | opie needs something like detect-stylus |
| 20:11.53 | Ken|JLime | i need to make a node for /dev/input/ts0 |
| 20:14.18 | Ken|JLime | eh where can i find the device nodes for /dev/input/ts0? |
| 20:20.22 | pb_ | eh? |
| 20:21.26 | Ken|JLime | i mean how do i create the devfile /dev/input/ts0? |
| 20:21.34 | Ken|JLime | should be major 13, minor 128 |
| 20:21.42 | Ken|JLime | mknod c ts0 13 128? |
| 20:21.50 | zecke | sounds about right |
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| 20:26.18 | Ken|JLime | ts_read: No such file or directory |
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| 20:28.06 | Ken|JLime | well i managed to use the ts_calibrate program |
| 20:28.17 | Ken|JLime | but when starting qpe --nodaemon tty2 |
| 20:28.28 | Ken|JLime | it complains about quicklaunch being stopped.. |
| 20:28.31 | Ken|JLime | again after again |
| 20:29.34 | Ken|JLime | does the ts_calibrate program save the data anywhere, or do i need to specify them manually |
| 20:29.35 | Ken|JLime | ? |
| 20:30.27 | kergoth | it saves it. |
| 20:30.32 | kergoth | one time operation |
| 20:30.58 | zecke | kergoth: /etc/pointercal |
| 20:31.02 | Ken|JLime | hmmm then why doesnt opie record my taps..the calibration program works perfectly |
| 20:31.02 | kergoth | yes. |
| 20:31.14 | kergoth | Ken|JLime: and ts_test? ts_print? |
| 20:31.26 | zecke | Ken|JLime: did you tell Qt to use the tslib driver? |
| 20:31.43 | kergoth | good question |
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| 20:33.50 | Ken|JLime | ts_print works perfectly |
| 20:34.20 | Ken|JLime | so does ts_test |
| 20:34.28 | kergoth | then as zecke says, how was qte built? |
| 20:34.31 | kergoth | what device is this? |
| 20:34.32 | zecke | Ken|JLime: didn't I told you yesterday to compile tslib support into Qt and to set QWS_MOUSE_PROTO approriate? |
| 20:34.40 | Ken|JLime | device /dev/input/ts0 |
| 20:34.54 | Ken|JLime | hmm, you told me to recompile tslib |
| 20:35.03 | Ken|JLime | i never recompiled qte |
| 20:35.13 | Ken|JLime | :P |
| 20:35.17 | zecke | Ken|JLime: how do you use Opie without compiling Qt? |
| 20:35.46 | zecke | Ken|JLime: look at the qte_2.3.10.bb and see what options you need to pass for your device |
| 20:35.54 | Ken|JLime | do i need to recompile Qt whenever i make a change at tslib? |
| 20:36.01 | zecke | Ken|JLime: point Qt to the right device and I won't say that environemt variable again |
| 20:36.06 | zecke | Ken|JLime: no |
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| 20:47.13 | Pigi | Ciao all |
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| 22:08.12 | koen | damn |
| 22:08.20 | koen | someone is koenner than I am :) |
| 22:09.54 | zecke | koen: lol, I figure you know the meaning of nixkönner |
| 22:11.26 | CoreDump|home | :) |
| 22:12.30 | koen | zecke: I do :) |
| 22:12.36 | nixkoenner | me search help whit directfb and oe |
| 22:12.50 | koen | although koen is pronounce like kun in dutch |
| 22:13.06 | koen | pronounced* |
| 22:14.17 | CoreDump|home | is there a meaning to it` |
| 22:14.19 | CoreDump|home | ? |
| 22:14.35 | zecke | koen: dui koen, how hat het? (even if spelling is 120% wrong) |
| 22:15.13 | koen | goed :) |
| 22:15.41 | koen | zecke: how's your dutch company? |
| 22:16.41 | zecke | 99% finished ;) |
| 22:16.54 | zecke | just need to have an idea what I want :} |
| 22:17.02 | zecke | and I've to finish uni first |
| 22:17.16 | zecke | koen: TomTom is searching C++/Linux... devs |
| 22:18.32 | koen | nice |
| 22:18.43 | koen | Now I just need to learn c++ and linux :) |
| 22:18.57 | zecke | koen: I feel always bad - the stupid Germans - forcing my relatives to speak German/English with me |
| 22:22.04 | koen | after tatort, derrick, der alte and die strassen von Berlin my german is pretty solid |
| 22:24.07 | koen | pb_: the kernel selection in h3900.conf fails because the preferred provider for virtual/kernel doesn't check for the kernel version |
| 22:24.23 | joshua_ | hmm, question about power in eu... two pins, unpolarized, 220v, 50hz? |
| 22:24.32 | koen | correct |
| 22:24.48 | koen | 230v according to new regulations |
| 22:24.48 | joshua_ | hmmm. how do you guys keep from getting cooked when you touch two different appliances? |
| 22:25.04 | koen | ground or isolation |
| 22:25.21 | joshua_ | ah |
| 22:25.42 | pb_ | koen: that's too bad. |
| 22:26.41 | joshua_ | hm, I'm pretty sure this hp laptop power adaptor isn't actually isolated... I wonder how americans keep from getting zapped when they use these little plug converter thingies. |
| 22:31.36 | pb_ | joshua_: I don't think the zapping situation would be any worse in the EU than when you are at home in the US. If you have an applicance which connects an exposed part to the line, you will get zapped. |
| 22:32.24 | joshua_ | well, here in the US, plugs are polarized, so appliances tend to be able to connect ground to the neutral pin of the line. |
| 22:33.07 | pb_ | That's the case in the EU too, but a lot of IT appliances (including most laptops) have unpolarised linecords. |
| 22:33.20 | joshua_ | this plug is actually three pin, although my plug converter is designed for use in all of europe, so it does not have grounding. |
| 22:33.28 | pb_ | In any case, the neutral pin of the line is not guaranteed to be at ground potential. You can still get a nasty shock between neutral and ground. |
| 22:34.57 | joshua_ | pb_: hrm. so should I be worried that my plug converter does not have a ground pin, or should I just be a good little sheep and accept that there is some reason why I won't get zapped? |
| 22:35.47 | pb_ | joshua_: does the laptop say that it needs to be grounded? Very few laptops do. |
| 22:35.54 | CoreDump|home | joshua_: the reason is that your converter is fully isolated |
| 22:36.09 | pb_ | Almost all laptop-type equipment is double insulated and has no ground connection. |
| 22:36.12 | CoreDump|home | (ie: mode of plastic) |
| 22:36.13 | joshua_ | CoreDump|home: hmm, the brick doesn't look big enough to have an isolation transformer |
| 22:36.31 | CoreDump|home | joshua_: nahh, it's made out of non-conducting material |
| 22:37.30 | joshua_ | CoreDump|home: that would lead to it not working, I'd assume. my laptop does have exposed metal surfaces that are connected to ground (i.e., when I touch the tip of my headphones jack to them, then hold the ground connection on my headphones, I get a buzzing) |
| 22:37.37 | joshua_ | pb_: I'll take a look. |
| 22:37.57 | joshua_ | "CONNECT ONLY TO GROUNDED OUTLET". |
| 22:38.36 | CoreDump|home | joshua_: I've never seen a laptop which requires grounding. But there's always a first huh? |
| 22:38.43 | pb_ | in that case, yes, you should not use it with a plug converter that doesn't supply a ground. |
| 22:38.44 | joshua_ | heh |
| 22:39.05 | pb_ | as for your power supply, it is almost certainly a switching type, in which case the isolating transformer can be quite small. |
| 22:40.23 | CoreDump|home | pffft, grounding is only for whimpy anyways ;) |
| 22:40.32 | CoreDump|home | s/whimpy/whimps |
| 22:40.33 | joshua_ | ah. I guess it's probably a part of the switching inductor itself, or some such. I was thinking it'd likely be a transformer sitting in front of the whole thing |
| 22:41.25 | pb_ | joshua_: if your PSU was not isolated, whenever you plugged the laptop into a 3-pin outlet you would short neutral to ground and trip the GFCI breaker. |
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| 22:42.12 | joshua_ | I suspect that it says "connect only to grounded outlet" to prevent me taking 220v should the supply somehow fail and short phase to output ground. |
| 22:42.19 | pb_ | right. |
| 22:43.01 | joshua_ | pb_: that makes sense. since it's connected to input ground, as opposed to neutral, I guess that'd also explain why I get the buzzing. |
| 22:43.02 | pb_ | protective ground is there to ensure that the appliance will blow a fuse or trip a breaker rather than just sit there with line voltage on its case. |
| 22:43.51 | joshua_ | I think I may in fact disregard its advice and just not touch the device if I hear a loud bang from the power supply. |
| 22:45.06 | CoreDump|home | joshua_: are you talking about a 110V <- 230VAC converter? who on earth would built something like that w/ a conducting casing? |
| 22:46.05 | joshua_ | no, this is designed for 110 and 230 input |
| 22:46.54 | joshua_ | it's a little plastic thing that has a US female socket on one side and a european male socket on the other side |
| 22:47.30 | CoreDump|home | i c |
| 22:49.00 | CoreDump|home | if the devie you are using with it is made of platic you can safely ignore protection earth. It's (european) plug wouldn't have had a PE pin anyways |
| 22:49.15 | CoreDump|home | sheesh, talk about bad english |
| 22:49.18 | joshua_ | this is part of a homestay program with school, actually. I'm looking forward to watching someone, against the teacher's advice, go for the cheap ones (i.e., the ones that don't do voltage conversion), plug in a hair dryer, and, well, you know the rest |
| 22:49.31 | CoreDump|home | :D |
| 22:49.58 | joshua_ | teacher says there's one every year. |
| 22:50.22 | CoreDump|home | of course. Murphys law comes to mind |
| 22:50.55 | pb_ | joshua_: heh |
| 22:51.26 | CoreDump|home | umm what do you call it? natural selection? :) |
| 22:51.50 | zecke | joshua_: oh you're coming to europe? |
| 22:51.56 | joshua_ | zecke: Yeah. |
| 22:53.05 | joshua_ | thank you |
| 22:56.47 | joshua_ | ok, I'm going to head out... later folks |
| 23:01.01 | Pigi | nite all |
| 23:19.21 | Ken|JLime | how do i add a perm new device in /dev/input? it gets removed everytime i reboot |
| 23:19.54 | treke | wtf |
| 23:20.05 | treke | I dont have any idea how I made it through half a build last night |
| 23:20.17 | treke | it never should have worked, I didnt have BBPATH set |
| 23:20.25 | Ken|JLime | haha |
| 23:24.56 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07 * r1.3180 10openembedded/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oz.conf: last updates - approaching 3.5.3 |
| 23:27.10 | Ken|JLime | what package handles the /dev creation? |
| 23:27.43 | pb_ | depends on the MACHINE, among other things. |
| 23:27.59 | Ken|JLime | i would just like to add one device to the tree |
| 23:28.09 | Ken|JLime | one that is always needed for jornada6xx |
| 23:28.43 | pb_ | I don't know what happens on jornada6xx. There doesn't seem to be a config for that MACHINE in the tree. |
| 23:29.10 | Ken|JLime | i just havent gotten round to sending the configs to the mailing list |
| 23:29.35 | Ken|JLime | can i specify futher devs in the machine file? |
| 23:30.59 | pb_ | I don't think so. |
| 23:31.17 | pb_ | If you're using the old-style openzaurus /dev, you need to edit the device_table.txt file. |
| 23:32.21 | pb_ | If you're using a static /dev in your rootfs, you need to edit the device_table-minimal.txt or its equivalent. |
| 23:32.53 | pb_ | It's hard to say for sure without knowing anything about how you have things configured for your machine. |
| 23:33.43 | Ken|JLime | sounds like the device_table.txt file is exactly what im looking for |
| 23:33.48 | Ken|JLime | where can i find it? |
| 23:34.41 | pb_ | It's in the packages tree. |
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| 23:40.03 | Ken|JLime | pb_, thx :) that did the trick |
| 23:40.48 | pb_ | ok, very good |
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| 23:49.31 | punkass | kergoth: you around? |
| 23:51.11 | punkass | anyone know where i can get info about the 2.6 kernel for Oz and if it is usable...i dont need a gui |
| 23:52.27 | drw | punkass: 2.6 is quite useable on my c750, about the only thing that doesn't work is SD/MMC, otherwise works fine |
| 23:52.55 | drw | it seems to take a little longer to boot up, but once start, seems a little more responsive |
| 23:53.00 | punkass | what chipset is the c750, i am using a 6000 |
| 23:53.16 | punkass | well i just need wireless and ssh |
| 23:53.16 | drw | not sure about that |
| 23:53.23 | punkass | and usb support |
| 23:53.40 | drw | wifi works fine, I don't use usb |
| 23:53.57 | drw | opie works fine to if you're interested |
| 23:54.02 | punkass | ok..the 6000 has a host usb...thats why i would like to try the 2.6 |
| 23:54.07 | punkass | ok good to know |
| 23:54.45 | punkass | is there a site dedicated to the 2.6 development? |
| 23:54.55 | drw | don't know |
| 23:55.02 | punkass | ok thanks |