irclog2html for #oe on 20041207

00:01.05joshua_or until the part cooks.....
00:01.35pb_heh.  if the part cooks first, you are using the wrong type of solder.
00:01.52pb_or applying the iron to the wrong place, I suppose
00:01.58joshua_yeah
00:02.29joshua_gb2: for actual ICs, you will want a nice fine tip and a microscope
00:02.36joshua_stereo microscope better.
00:02.41joshua_and a jamey with solder wick.
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00:03.17joshua_mm, ipv6
00:04.06kergoth_indeed
00:04.21pb_yah, microscope can be handy for inspection, but it's tedious to actually solder underneath one.
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00:05.39joshua_pb_: hm, really? I found it a lot easier when soldering little drams onto an ipaq board.
00:06.01pb_I guess it's a matter of taste.  I find it more awkward, usually.
00:06.36pb_my boss is a big fan of the microscope though
00:06.42joshua_of course, that's all I was really exposed to. "Gee, there's this microscope here. I bet this is what I am supposed to use."
00:06.48joshua_ah.
00:07.33MSpinsoldering under a scope gives me a headache
00:07.45MSpinthings are just too distorted
00:08.42pb_joshua_: heh
00:15.59kergothanyone know a place to get cheap usb to serial adapters?  need to do something to make managing the serial ports on all these devices easier
00:16.47kergothtempted to buy one of those ethernet terminal server products on ebay or something, but they can be pricey
00:17.04MSpinkergoth: if you don't need SSH, they can be a decent deal
00:17.50kergothdigi, lantronix, etc all have decent products in that area.  could probably get an older model for a decent price
00:18.00kergothdont exactly need a 32 port rack mount ssh capable ts running embedded linux
00:18.19MSpinhehehe
00:18.45MSpindidn't you work for Digi a while back?
00:19.07kergothyeah, did unix tech support
00:19.12kergothfor a good 3 years
00:19.23MSpinahhh
00:19.39anderseeLooks pretty, though a shame Sharp _still_ hasn't added builtin wifi -- http://www.i4u.com/section-viewarticle-71.html
00:19.56MSpina client wants me to do some work with Digi's little smart jack thingies
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00:20.27kergothandersee: no doubt
00:20.42kergoththe sl6000 is nice.  if they had a clamshell with the same featureset (usb host, wifi), thatd be badass
00:21.42anderseeI'd buy it in a heartbeat
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00:22.19Pendalarhmm a 802.11G CF.. interesting
00:22.34kergothhmm, can get a lantronix ets16 terminal server for like a hundred bucks
00:22.35Zero_ChaosPendalar: where?
00:22.38PendalarI wonder if the zaurus could actually take it
00:22.39kergothwouldnt be a bad way to go
00:22.50Pendalarlinksys WCF54G
00:22.59Zero_ChaosWoW, I want it
00:23.08Pendalarbut could the bus/etc handle it? surely there's a bottleneck somewhere that would absolutely shit itself
00:23.28Zero_Chaosmaybe, I wouldn't really know
00:23.47Pendalarkergoth might ;-)
00:25.08gb2kergoth: you're looking for usb-serial frobs?
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00:25.56kergoththat or ethernet, yeah. too many console ports and no way to manage them
00:26.48Pendalarkergoth do you think the device could make full use of 802.11g speed?
00:26.53MSpinI've not heard good things about a pile of USB-serial adapters
00:26.57gb2kergoth: at work, we use the aten/iogear dongles
00:26.57gb2http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=325871
00:26.59gb2this part
00:27.14gb2the cable is about a foot long, but it's nice that it's all inline
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00:53.27Pendalarheh I don't think kergoth is going to comment ;-)