| 00:03.46 | Foxxz | anyone have the slug's ethernet driver compiled for 2.6? im working on a debian disk image for it |
| 00:13.00 | kolla | yes |
| 00:13.35 | kolla | if you're running little endian there's no hope afaik |
| 00:14.48 | ka6sox-office | the npe driver is only compiled BE |
| 00:16.18 | Foxxz | theres a new version |
| 00:16.22 | Foxxz | 2.0 offers both |
| 00:16.34 | Foxxz | but i dont have the montavista stuff to do it myself |
| 00:19.08 | kolla | would be practical with litle endian, then I could have the slugs share code with the zaurus andvarious |
| 00:19.55 | ka6sox-office | is CSR and other ixp ish things ported to LE? |
| 00:20.26 | Foxxz | i have a 2.6 kernel running little endian |
| 00:20.35 | Foxxz | per the debian install instructions |
| 00:21.32 | Foxxz | but no onboard ethernet. there is a new intel access lib that will support the npe in LE but it require montavista or something else o compile which as i understand isnt free |
| 00:24.32 | Foxxz | if you dont mind using a usb ethernet adapter then it works fine otherwise |
| 00:27.32 | ka6sox-office | mostly this group uses the BE stuffs...haven't played much with LE on Slug. |
| 00:27.49 | Foxxz | yea i kno |
| 00:28.16 | ka6sox-office | only person we had working on LE stuff was beewoolie |
| 00:28.23 | CIA-8 | 03jbowler * 10upslug/upslug.c: |
| 00:28.23 | CIA-8 | This removes the 'out of sequence' error when receiving responses - instead |
| 00:28.23 | CIA-8 | the command retries. This handles an observed problem on a loaded network |
| 00:28.23 | CIA-8 | where the upslug fails due to (apparently) dropped responses. |
| 00:28.28 | ka6sox-office | and that was a bootloader that he |
| 00:28.56 | ka6sox-office | turned into BE |
| 00:30.03 | Foxxz | im working on just repacking debian (LE) so it doesnt require the serial mod to get working |
| 00:33.56 | geojeff | ka6sox-office, have you worked on libao makefile yet? and to get a fix, would i rerun make build-optware-nslu2? |
| 00:34.36 | ka6sox-office | I'm close...debugging |
| 00:34.50 | geojeff | cool |
| 00:36.19 | ka6sox-office | it'll be in the feed when its fixed. |
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| 08:36.09 | sala | can anyone explane to me how can i add 4 ram chips to nslu2, i got 128mb pc133 sdram with 8 chips |
| 08:36.55 | ka6sox | you can only add 2 to the existing ones or replace them with 4 max |
| 08:37.17 | sala | can i add just 2 hwhat do you mean by 4 max? |
| 08:37.38 | sala | *what do you mean by 4 max? |
| 08:37.49 | ka6sox | 2 banks of 2 memory devices |
| 08:38.13 | sala | still don't get it |
| 08:38.20 | sala | you mean 4 memory chips |
| 08:39.13 | ka6sox | yes. |
| 08:39.43 | sala | but is there some picture of it how can i do it |
| 08:40.11 | sala | because this is juts not replaceing 2 memory chips that are there by default |
| 08:42.01 | sala | If you are using 4 chips then the /CS pin (pin 19) of the 2 "piggy backed" chips should be connected together to the unconnected pin on PR12. this line is just too much to understand |
| 08:42.48 | ka6sox | the other /CS pin for the "other" bank is connected to PR12 |
| 08:43.04 | sala | is there any scheme for it? |
| 08:43.15 | ka6sox | yes |
| 08:43.27 | ka6sox | they have to be the same size (any and all chips used) |
| 08:43.46 | ka6sox | you can use XXM16's only |
| 08:44.00 | ka6sox | it comes with 2X 8M16's for 32MB of ram |
| 08:44.36 | ka6sox | you can "double" it by piggybacking 2 *more* 8M16's and create a 64MB slug. |
| 08:44.56 | ka6sox | or you can replace with 16M16's for the same amount of ram (64MB) |
| 08:45.19 | ka6sox | you can go all the way up to 4X 32M16's for a grand total of 256MB. |
| 08:45.46 | sala | i got 8M16 |
| 08:45.49 | sala | 8 of them |
| 08:46.05 | ka6sox | then you can piggyback them for a grand total of 64MB. |
| 08:47.13 | sala | i better trying to find some 16M16 ones, then i can just add 2 of them |
| 08:47.28 | ka6sox | replace them...not add. |
| 08:47.37 | ka6sox | they all have to be the same size |
| 08:47.52 | sala | english is not my native language, sorry:P |
| 08:48.26 | sala | i take them from pc133 sdram modules |
| 08:48.28 | ka6sox | no problem...you just won't see the extra 32mb if you stack 16M16's on 8M16's |
| 08:49.22 | sala | i have not seen much 32M16 and i dont want to mess with 4 chips |
| 08:49.48 | ka6sox | good plan |
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| 08:55.24 | ka6sox | sala, you are on the right track. |
| 09:06.14 | CIA-8 | 03ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r2ebe57c0... 10/Makefile: Added the Ubuntu-host-setup target |
| 09:06.16 | CIA-8 | 03ka6sox 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r85c18288... 10/Makefile: Fix the added the Ubuntu-host-setup target |
| 09:06.50 | dyoung | Congratulations, thats ka6sox's first monotone commit. |
| 09:06.51 | blaster8 | ka6sox: can you update the setup-gentoo-host target with some changes? |
| 09:07.31 | blaster8 | http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mlj28/makefilechanges |
| 09:07.56 | blaster8 | just fixing a bug and getting ppl to use monotone 0. |
| 09:07.57 | blaster8 | 22 |
| 09:09.37 | blaster8 | also, surely it should be a setup-host-ubuntu target ?? (minor niggle) |
| 09:09.40 | ka6sox | what is the diff on that change? |
| 09:09.57 | ka6sox | setup-host-ubuntu |
| 09:09.59 | blaster8 | I don't know what the current monotone makefile is |
| 09:10.08 | ka6sox | k |
| 09:10.16 | blaster8 | the change is really simple |
| 09:10.33 | blaster8 | look where you get a line saying 'setup-host-gentoo:' |
| 09:10.41 | ka6sox | yes |
| 09:11.12 | blaster8 | then copy/paste the next 5 lines into the current monotone makefile, pasting over the equivalent lines in there atm |
| 09:11.43 | ka6sox | all the way up to the emerg |
| 09:12.02 | blaster8 | basically, you need to change monotone-0.21 to monotone-0.22 - then boost-1.32 to boost 1.32.0 |
| 09:12.37 | blaster8 | then you have to push the changes (somehow) so the makefile on the website gets updated |
| 09:13.37 | blaster8 | actually, NAiL may have already updated my changes without telling me, now I actually look at the Makefile, so you may not need to bother |
| 09:13.40 | blaster8 | sorry |
| 09:14.49 | ka6sox | k |
| 09:15.25 | blaster8 | remember to push your changes to get them onto the website :) |
| 09:15.39 | ka6sox | I did. |
| 09:15.48 | blaster8 | cool |
| 09:15.56 | ka6sox | but because I setup a new machine today I forgot to set something up. |
| 09:15.59 | ka6sox | its fixed now. |
| 09:16.06 | ka6sox | so I manually put it there. |
| 09:17.12 | blaster8 | do you need to muck around with /etc/apt-get/sources.list ? |
| 09:17.17 | blaster8 | from the default, that is |
| 09:17.21 | ka6sox | yes |
| 09:17.26 | ka6sox | you have to add universe |
| 09:17.45 | ka6sox | I should add that to the wikipage. |
| 09:17.48 | ka6sox | let me do that now. |
| 09:18.32 | blaster8 | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile |
| 09:21.12 | CIA-8 | 03dyoung 07org.nslu2-linux.dev * r0b9efff5... 10/Makefile: Housecleaning |
| 09:49.00 | CIA-8 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/appweb.mk: enable appweb download |
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| 11:04.37 | blaster8 | BusyBox 1.01 is out: http://www.busybox.net/ |
| 11:05.03 | blaster8 | loadsa patches: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/Changelog |
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| 11:45.29 | blaster8 | hopefully, I'm now running a TurboSlug :) |
| 11:47.33 | blaster8 | hmm, how do you find out proc speed? |
| 11:48.16 | rwhitby | dmesg |
| 11:48.50 | rwhitby | or cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 11:51.43 | blaster8 | hmm, just get a BogoMIPS reading - 263.78 ?? |
| 11:54.42 | rwhitby | yep, that's turbo |
| 11:54.52 | blaster8 | good - but I noticed something else in dmesg |
| 11:54.58 | blaster8 | EXT2-fs warning (device sda1): ext2_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2 |
| 11:55.05 | rwhitby | openslug? |
| 11:55.08 | blaster8 | indeed |
| 11:55.13 | blaster8 | HEAD |
| 11:55.18 | rwhitby | you forgot the -t ext3 in turnup disk |
| 11:55.29 | rwhitby | please add it to the FAQ - you're the third person so far :-) |
| 11:55.31 | blaster8 | hmm - or it's just not documented ?? |
| 11:55.57 | blaster8 | ok, I'll make update, recompile, flash and start again |
| 11:56.05 | blaster8 | and add it to the instructions |
| 11:56.26 | rwhitby | actually, just turnup ram, reboot, turnup disk with the right options |
| 11:56.43 | rwhitby | or turnup flash, reboot, turnup disk ... |
| 11:56.53 | rwhitby | or edit /linuxrc on the flash manually ... |
| 11:57.13 | blaster8 | I can't run any production stuff on the NSLU2 before Openslug/LAMP is ready |
| 11:57.38 | blaster8 | so I'm keeping running HEAD and testing as much stuff as I can, while I still have a devSlug |
| 11:57.50 | rwhitby | ah, ok, cool. |
| 11:57.52 | blaster8 | thanks for the hint, though |
| 11:58.06 | rwhitby | wanna test Unslung 6.0 while you're there? |
| 11:58.55 | blaster8 | ok |
| 11:59.22 | blaster8 | I'll build the latest unslung when openslug has finished (shouldn't take long to rebuild) |
| 12:00.12 | rwhitby | run "make unslung-binary-firmware" - that will get the version which is based on R63 (but has the ufsd.o module removed) |
| 12:01.00 | blaster8 | ok |
| 12:01.11 | blaster8 | I updated the makefile this morning, so that should be ok |
| 12:11.28 | blaster8 | right - running gzip benchmark for about 10 minutes to check all is ok |
| 12:26.37 | blaster8 | re: busybox - I mentioned in #oe, so someone there may be on the case |
| 12:27.26 | NAiL | Yeah, quite possible.. Checking anyway to see if there are changes that'll break things |
| 12:27.35 | NAiL | And I think the backtick change just might |
| 12:30.52 | NAiL | finallyt |
| 12:30.58 | NAiL | static leases for udhcpd |
| 12:31.16 | NAiL | I was waiting for that for my wrt54gs |
| 12:31.54 | NAiL | and fixed date.. good |
| 12:32.03 | blaster8 | NAiL: That Changelog link I gave you may not be accurate for 1.0.1 |
| 12:32.14 | blaster8 | http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2005-August/015424.html |
| 12:32.18 | NAiL | It's rc3 |
| 12:32.24 | NAiL | but there's a lot of nice changes |
| 12:33.07 | NAiL | yes! |
| 12:33.10 | NAiL | *finally* |
| 12:33.12 | NAiL | I think |
| 12:33.22 | NAiL | There's a start_stop_daemon -q fix |
| 12:33.29 | NAiL | Maybe it finally listens ;) |
| 12:34.53 | NAiL | haha |
| 12:34.54 | NAiL | 10120: Make init suck slightly less. (needs a complete rewrite in 1.1) |
| 12:35.08 | NAiL | yes.. busybox init sucks :( |
| 12:35.31 | blaster8 | rwhitby: there is no make unslung-binary-firmware target, only make unslung-binary-kernel |
| 12:36.06 | rwhitby | ok, that's it |
| 12:36.10 | blaster8 | so I have to make unslung first? |
| 12:36.13 | rwhitby | nopw |
| 12:36.18 | rwhitby | nope |
| 12:36.20 | blaster8 | ok |
| 12:36.38 | blaster8 | it's going |
| 12:36.57 | dyoung | NAiL is slacking, I've held both heads for more than 2 hrs! |
| 12:37.15 | NAiL | whaaa? |
| 12:37.17 | NAiL | ;) |
| 12:37.21 | NAiL | Yes, I am |
| 12:37.26 | NAiL | I've been out driving again |
| 12:37.27 | dyoung | I'm totally amazed |
| 12:37.33 | dyoung | youre usually a commit machine! |
| 12:37.43 | NAiL | Actually, I've been out spinning around at 60km/h :D |
| 12:37.43 | dyoung | dont tell me you've actually run out of stuff to commit?? |
| 12:37.52 | dyoung | heh heh. |
| 12:37.54 | NAiL | As of right now? I actually think I have |
| 12:38.10 | dyoung | looking for a project? |
| 12:38.25 | NAiL | It's a requirement for the drivers licence here... You have to learn how to handle driving on ice |
| 12:38.32 | NAiL | I have a few projects |
| 12:38.34 | NAiL | Samba is one |
| 12:38.40 | rwhitby | yeah, wizd should be a cinch ... |
| 12:38.53 | NAiL | heh, what was wizd again? Some streaming stuff? |
| 12:39.16 | dyoung | For Rwhitby's neuston, and my actiontec. :-) |
| 12:39.38 | NAiL | It's fun to drive at ~65km/h and hit the breaks... Nothing happens for a little while, then you start spinning around ;) |
| 12:39.57 | NAiL | brakes |
| 12:40.02 | blaster8 | what car do you have? |
| 12:40.18 | NAiL | None. I will hopefully get my first car later this year... |
| 12:40.28 | NAiL | I haven't been in a hurry with getting one |
| 12:40.39 | NAiL | Things to play with have been more important ;) |
| 12:40.51 | blaster8 | hard to justify getting a car when we have a rail station literally 2 minutes away |
| 12:40.57 | NAiL | But, by the looks of it, I'm getting a very old car |
| 12:41.08 | NAiL | 25 years old. It's in a very good shape though |
| 12:41.13 | NAiL | And it's a very nice car :D |
| 12:41.22 | blaster8 | how far north is trondheim? |
| 12:41.29 | dyoung | 1980's... hmm. |
| 12:41.45 | dyoung | blaster8: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/developers.php |
| 12:42.17 | NAiL | dyoung: yes, before Porsche got turbo. |
| 12:42.38 | dyoung | I'm pretty sure is the northern most developer |
| 12:42.45 | dyoung | pretty sure NAiL is.... |
| 12:42.52 | NAiL | So am I |
| 12:43.15 | blaster8 | hmm, I went to Abisko in Sweden once |
| 12:43.22 | blaster8 | little place above the arctic circle |
| 12:43.31 | NAiL | That'd be farther north than me |
| 12:43.43 | NAiL | I can't wait until I get that caaar |
| 12:43.55 | blaster8 | quite a bit - took ages to get to their airport from Oslo |
| 12:43.59 | NAiL | hehehe :) |
| 12:44.09 | dyoung | NAiL: youre getting a Porsche ? |
| 12:44.10 | blaster8 | I never realised there was that much up there? |
| 12:44.14 | NAiL | dyoung: 911 CS |
| 12:44.16 | rwhitby | NAiL is northernmost and I am southernmost |
| 12:44.18 | dyoung | woo |
| 12:44.39 | rwhitby | dyoung is closest to date line |
| 12:45.03 | NAiL | dyoung: A friend of the family is going to sell his. It's in really good shape. I've test-driven it a bit. It rawks |
| 12:45.23 | rwhitby | (parted) print |
| 12:45.23 | rwhitby | Disk geometry for /dev/sda: 0.000-76319.085 megabytes |
| 12:45.23 | rwhitby | Disk label type: msdos |
| 12:45.23 | rwhitby | Minor Start End Type Filesystem Flags |
| 12:45.23 | rwhitby | 1 0.031 76144.021 primary ext3 |
| 12:45.25 | rwhitby | 2 76144.021 76261.684 primary ext3 |
| 12:45.26 | rwhitby | 3 76261.685 76316.594 primary linux-swap |
| 12:45.26 | dyoung | only one thing to say about performance vehicles.... |
| 12:45.28 | rwhitby | (parted) resize 2 76144.021 76154.021 |
| 12:45.28 | kolla | I think perhaps I live a few meters further north of NAiL :) |
| 12:45.30 | rwhitby | No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout! Parted |
| 12:45.32 | rwhitby | can't resize this (yet). |
| 12:45.33 | dyoung | Dont Kill Yourself. |
| 12:45.34 | rwhitby | (parted) |
| 12:45.36 | rwhitby | :-( |
| 12:45.44 | rwhitby | Anyone got parted to work on an Unslung disk? |
| 12:45.54 | NAiL | rwhitby: I didn't get parted to work on openslug |
| 12:46.05 | dyoung | is parted endian aware? |
| 12:46.06 | NAiL | dyoung: I'm a very careful driver actually |
| 12:46.29 | NAiL | rwhitby: I tried compiling parted natively. And it didn't recognize my ext2(3?) fs |
| 12:46.36 | blaster8 | at least for me, fdisk can write but not read partitions |
| 12:46.38 | dyoung | NAiL: I'm sure you are. :-) But the performance sometimes... well.. just gets the better of you. |
| 12:46.46 | NAiL | dyoung: well, yes ;) |
| 12:46.55 | dyoung | Bwaaa!!! |
| 12:46.59 | dyoung | heh |
| 12:47.29 | NAiL | Can't drive it most of the winter though. Hind-wheel drive, engine in back. If it's slippery, it's hell getting back on track again. |
| 12:47.32 | dyoung | I recently got a turbo. so... heh. |
| 12:47.45 | dyoung | Extreme Oversteer! |
| 12:49.37 | DaKa | there... I have a working apache, with everything somewhat in shape, I think.. |
| 12:49.46 | NAiL | DaKa: Great work :D |
| 12:49.51 | blaster8 | well done |
| 12:50.12 | blaster8 | is mod_gzip supported, out of interest? |
| 12:50.23 | DaKa | hm.. |
| 12:51.12 | NAiL | blaster8: uclibc just might have been upgraded now as well... Wonder what neat changes are in there |
| 12:51.29 | blaster8 | hopefully some application fixes |
| 12:51.46 | blaster8 | but uclibc devs are a bit bigheaded about implementing workarounds |
| 12:52.40 | DaKa | blaster8: is mod_gzip in apache2 default, or add on? |
| 12:53.11 | NAiLzzz | iirc, it's default |
| 12:53.26 | blaster8 | aah, you're using apache2 |
| 12:53.30 | blaster8 | didn't realise |
| 12:53.41 | DaKa | ah yes.. |
| 12:54.25 | blaster8 | hmm, in fact I need mod_deflate for apache2, and it is native but has to be 'compiled in' |
| 12:54.42 | DaKa | hm... |
| 12:55.05 | blaster8 | it's just I have very limited upload bandwidth - that's all |
| 12:55.08 | blaster8 | I'll look into it |
| 12:55.21 | DaKa | is it in the source? and just some --enable-deflate? |
| 12:55.27 | blaster8 | I assume the second |
| 12:56.17 | DaKa | hm.. I'll commit what I have, and try to somehow get autobuildning working, and then we can start adding/changing stuff for real |
| 12:56.42 | rwhitby | CIA-8: wake up |
| 12:56.51 | blaster8 | don't worry, probably just me who will ever request it |
| 12:57.21 | rwhitby | DaKa: cross or native? |
| 12:57.34 | DaKa | rwhitby: native |
| 12:57.51 | DaKa | cross should be possible, but lots of things to fix |
| 12:58.37 | blaster8 | how about php (more silly questions ;) ) |
| 12:59.06 | DaKa | php is in oe, just needs to somehow build the apache-module for us.. |
| 12:59.17 | DaKa | and that can be a problem |
| 12:59.28 | DaKa | because it needs the apache headers, staged in the native |
| 12:59.41 | blaster8 | [g2] has had apache/php natively building for a while |
| 12:59.47 | DaKa | so.. I guess php needs to be built native too, or that fixed somehow.. |
| 12:59.47 | blaster8 | but independently of OE |
| 12:59.57 | blaster8 | (I think) |
| 13:00.03 | DaKa | yes, the thing is packaging it... |
| 13:00.19 | blaster8 | I've had a look at the PHP packages (horrendous) |
| 13:00.56 | DaKa | rwhitby: does OE has any standard on "real" native packages, that needs to be compiled on the target system? |
| 13:01.44 | blaster8 | gotta love upslug btw |
| 13:01.52 | blaster8 | rock solid over my wireless network |
| 13:02.11 | dyoung | you know how it was written right? |
| 13:02.21 | blaster8 | no - surprise me ;) |
| 13:03.39 | dyoung | someone wrote the basic one to have it return the config info. Christopher spend a day or two snooping the packets (from the actual sercomm utility) and crafted the bits that allowed it to actualy write. |
| 13:04.07 | blaster8 | it's really good - the autodetect only detects my slug too (nothing else) which is handy |
| 13:04.10 | dyoung | the writing bits were completely reverse engineered. |
| 13:04.39 | blaster8 | really clever stuff going on in this project |
| 13:04.44 | dyoung | The jbowler came onboard and made it dyoung-resistant. |
| 13:04.53 | blaster8 | ;) |
| 13:06.05 | rwhitby | DaKa: dunno |
| 13:06.21 | DaKa | oh well, I added 'raise bb.parse.SkipPackage("Apache will only build nativly (TARGET_ARCH == BUILD_ARCH)")' to apache |
| 13:06.27 | dyoung | I love upslug too |
| 13:06.59 | DaKa | so noone accidentaly thinks it will build cross |
| 13:08.34 | blaster8 | need to order the parts to finish customising my NSLU2 |
| 13:08.51 | blaster8 | the board works nicely in its new case |
| 13:09.16 | blaster8 | just need to add replacement power buttons, LEDs, USB-Serial, USB Hub etc |
| 13:09.38 | blaster8 | the only shame is that I realised the case is bigger than my Mac mini :( |
| 13:09.49 | blaster8 | but the power supply is integrated, at least |
| 13:09.52 | rwhitby | MegaSlug |
| 13:09.57 | blaster8 | yeah |
| 13:10.17 | dyoung | Do you have a 5 drive array in there too? |
| 13:10.23 | blaster8 | not yet :) |
| 13:10.27 | blaster8 | need money for that |
| 13:11.14 | blaster8 | going to upgrade the disk to a Seagate 40GB and add 512MB of USB Flash once everything else is working |
| 13:11.38 | blaster8 | the Fujitsu 10GB in atm was cheap but isn't exactly quiet |
| 13:11.39 | geojeff | i'll end up making a CatFoodContainerSlug -- i've been buying cat food in these plastic tubs for a year, thinking about needing a waterproof container for whatever frog logger thing i ended up using :) |
| 13:12.10 | Eiffel | try an 2,5" hdd blaster they are quiet normally |
| 13:12.39 | blaster8 | let's put it this way - my current drive is louder than my Mac mini |
| 13:13.06 | rwhitby | My 2.5" laptop drive is louder than my 3.5" desktop drive. |
| 13:13.31 | rwhitby | Hitachi vs Seagate ACE |
| 13:15.49 | blaster8 | the great thing is that the internal power supply in the case I bought is a beast - 3A at 5V |
| 13:16.04 | blaster8 | so I can power the slug, a hard drive and 2 other full power USB devices |
| 13:16.07 | Eiffel | ACE ? where did you get one normaly they arenīt sold to endusers |
| 13:24.10 | rwhitby | Eiffel: it came out of a TopField PVR, who's 80GB ACE disk was replaced by a 250GB normal disk. |
| 13:24.51 | rwhitby | But the 80Gb ACE drive in a Vantec 3 enclosure, and it's practically silent. |
| 13:25.21 | Eiffel | ^^ |
| 13:26.43 | rwhitby | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central |
| 13:26.57 | rwhitby | The vantec enclosure matches the slug nicely :-) |
| 13:32.22 | dyoung | Who was it that was playing with the NetFilter stuff under unslung? |
| 13:33.25 | dyoung | the unslung feed should have the kernel-module-iptable-nat module now. |
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| 14:01.00 | blaster8 | back to soldering - have to shorten a USB cable |
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| 14:14.04 | CIA-8 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/make/ntop.mk: Added the run-time dependency on libxml2. |
| 14:33.58 | Eiffel | hm what happens when i try to run samba without nmbd will access be ristricted via IP only? |
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| 14:47.29 | Eiffel | ah k found it so i donīt need it great little bit more ram :-) |
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| 15:21.24 | CIA-8 | 03rwhitby * 10unslung/Makefile: Demoted ntop from wl500g, as it segfaults. |
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| 15:45.54 | blaster8 | yay - shortened cable seems to work |
| 15:46.01 | blaster8 | very neat |
| 15:48.41 | blaster8 | btw, rhitby - can Unslung 6 not be released as a beta? |
| 15:48.59 | blaster8 | or if it is, can Unslung 5.5 be promoted to stable |
| 15:50.34 | ka6sox-zzzz | morning blaster8 |
| 15:50.40 | blaster8 | morning |
| 15:50.54 | blaster8 | sorry about the fussiness about the setup-host script, btw |
| 15:52.05 | ka6sox-zzzz | no problem...we are all trying to get it right. |
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| 15:52.24 | ka6sox-zzzz | now that I have my build system workin now I can get back to fixing broken things. |
| 15:52.30 | ka6sox-zzzz | like libao |
| 15:52.36 | blaster8 | geojeff will be pleased |
| 15:52.39 | ka6sox-zzzz | ya |
| 15:52.45 | ka6sox-zzzz | okay off to the mine |
| 15:53.17 | blaster8 | oh, btw, new target of the day is make unslung-binary-kernel |
| 15:53.28 | blaster8 | for building Unslung 6 |
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| 16:11.14 | blaster8 | rwhitby: ping |
| 16:11.28 | blaster8 | have a bit of odd behaviour from Unslung 6 |
| 16:11.55 | blaster8 | the status light never stops flashing, but the web interface is fully accessible |
| 16:12.57 | blaster8 | now telnetted in perfectly, with the status light still flashing green :) |
| 16:19.04 | blaster8 | and it doesn't shut down |
| 16:19.21 | blaster8 | just hangs with the status light off and the ethernet light on |
| 16:20.06 | blaster8 | though services are down (telnet/web) |
| 16:20.20 | malfi | openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/asm/bitops.h is almost empty, is this my setup or a problem with openslug? |
| 16:21.06 | NAiLzzz | malfi: 21 lines |
| 16:21.33 | malfi | NAiLzzz: yeah same here :-( |
| 16:21.49 | blaster8 | is that an issue? |
| 16:22.09 | NAiLzzz | Shouldn't be. Works just fint here |
| 16:22.19 | malfi | yes, I've got a program that uses the bit-test macros (as seens in /usr/include/asm/bitops.h ) |
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| 16:22.46 | malfi | net_if.c:219: warning: implicit declaration of function `test_and_set_bit' |
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| 16:29.04 | malfi | I guess it should look like this: http://cvs.blackfin.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/uClinux-dist/linux-2.6.x/include/asm-arm/bitops.h?rev=1.4;content-type=text%2Fplain;cvsroot=uclinux533;f=h |
| 16:30.35 | blaster8 | rwhitby-asleep: To summarise - Unslung 6 works fine except for the following - 1) No Shutdown (w/button) or Reboot (via telnet), slug hangs on everything off except ethernet light; 2) Status light keeps flashing green after a beep and after the web interface comes up (everything there seems to work fine) |
| 16:30.52 | blaster8 | unslinging went ok, mind |
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| 16:33.18 | Joschi | NAiLzzz: I just changed my Samba as on the thread... now it works perfectly |
| 16:40.45 | Joschi | ok - perfectly is said too much :-/ i'll investigate the problems and report them here |
| 16:57.17 | blaster8 | rwhitby-asleep: one last thing - as far as I am concerned Openslug 2.6 is completely stable (at least the base system) - I think you could easily designate 2.6 now and call it stable |
| 16:58.20 | NAiLzzz | aaaugh |
| 16:58.26 | blaster8 | ? |
| 16:59.09 | blaster8 | obviously n00b onslaught would be an issue, but still, it works well |
| 16:59.16 | NAiL | That means updating the feeds again ;) |
| 16:59.53 | NAiL | gotta go |
| 17:00.51 | blaster8 | not entirely clear why that would mean updating the feeds, but nevermind :) |
| 17:01.33 | Joschi | hi! |
| 17:01.34 | blaster8 | going off on a limb here, but this might be a time to start a development and a maintenance branch |
| 17:01.44 | Joschi | ok did some testing |
| 17:01.54 | Joschi | with big files it works ok |
| 17:02.05 | blaster8 | is this openslug? |
| 17:02.28 | Joschi | with small files < 10k explorer says "not enough space left on drive" |
| 17:03.07 | Joschi | so i think the way to go would be to use the "old" solution for small files (i.e. write 0's to extend file size) and the new for big files |
| 17:04.51 | Matta | hmm, any idea why ipkg install kernel-module-ip-tables returns error 4 not found in openslug 2.5? |
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| 17:10.38 | blaster8 | Matta: because that requires Openslug 2.6 |
| 17:11.01 | blaster8 | if you want to try it out I can give you an unofficial image |
| 17:11.46 | blaster8 | I also hate to say this, but the third word in the documentation does answer your question: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/OpenSlugIptables |
| 17:16.50 | Matta | heh, k, thx |
| 17:16.51 | Matta | =) |
| 17:17.14 | blaster8 | do you want to test iptables? |
| 17:18.12 | Matta | I'm building a router/firewall of this thing, so I'm depending on it |
| 17:18.28 | blaster8 | so do you want a test image, or can you build one yourself? |
| 17:18.37 | Matta | I can build myself |
| 17:18.47 | Matta | any idea when 2.6 is out "officially" ? |
| 17:19.14 | blaster8 | well, I'm lobbying for ASAP, given that I think it is bug free - but you would have to ask rwhitby, who is asleep atm |
| 17:19.51 | blaster8 | it's to to 3 in the morning where he is |
| 17:21.24 | Matta | ic |
| 17:26.51 | Joschi | anyone can give some hints about natively building openslug packages? |
| 17:27.15 | blaster8 | sorry, only do cross compiling here |
| 17:27.59 | Joschi | i have to use a windows box here... so i have to boot linux just for compiling :-/ |
| 17:28.13 | Joschi | i'm just thinking about installing coLinux |
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| 17:28.22 | blaster8 | personally, I bought a cheap 1GHz Pentium 3 and use ssh |
| 17:28.40 | blaster8 | talk to it from OS X box next to my devSlug |
| 17:28.42 | Repvik | Anyone know anything about the synology DS? |
| 17:29.57 | Joschi | i don't think i will have SO much time to spend on it that it will be worth buying an extra pc for that |
| 17:32.46 | blaster8 | Joschi: I bought it for ÂĢ58 on eBay and can sell it for ÂĢ58 when I'm finished with it |
| 17:33.14 | blaster8 | never bought a PC on eBay which I haven't sold on for a profit when I've finished using it |
| 17:34.22 | Joschi | :) |
| 17:34.29 | blaster8 | absolutely |
| 17:35.04 | blaster8 | 512MB RAM, 2 NICs, onboard and external video (with DVI) and quiet for next to nothing |
| 17:35.54 | Joschi | too bad that u don't need video when ssh-ing to it ;) |
| 17:36.50 | blaster8 | yeah, shame that |
| 18:09.04 | malfi | should oe_runmake automatically use ${STAGING_INCDIR) as an Include directory? |
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| 18:35.38 | blaster8 | wondering whether to attach a heatsink... |
| 18:39.40 | blaster8 | probably overkill, but I do have one spare |
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| 19:14.54 | mcfly587 | hello |
| 19:17.33 | mcfly587 | someone is using gentoo to develop unslung package ? i have a problem with the makefile ... |
| 19:17.51 | ByronT | what is the problem? |
| 19:17.52 | mcfly587 | Calculating dependencies ...done! |
| 19:17.52 | mcfly587 | !!! Error: the >=net-www/apache-2 package conflicts with another package. |
| 19:17.52 | mcfly587 | !!! both can't be installed on the same system together. |
| 19:17.52 | mcfly587 | !!! Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. |
| 19:18.14 | mcfly587 | i dont want to uninstall my system package :/ |
| 19:19.31 | mcfly587 | i have created a new user : login in root ... and use make setup-host-gentoo |
| 19:20.58 | jacques | weird |
| 19:21.04 | ka6sox-office | mcfly587, you are using the Master Makefile to create a gentoo build environment? |
| 19:21.10 | jacques | I wonder why it would want to install apache? |
| 19:21.32 | jacques | I use gentoo but have never done make setup-host-gentoo |
| 19:22.12 | mcfly587 | ka6sox-office, yes i'm running on gentoo and use the wiki help : # |
| 19:22.12 | mcfly587 | # wget --cache=off http://www.nslu2-linux.org/Makefile |
| 19:22.28 | ka6sox-office | k |
| 19:22.47 | ka6sox-office | I'm a debian guy...I'll let the Gentoo guys answer this one. |
| 19:23.57 | mcfly587 | jacques -> How can i create the system file wihtout make setup-host-gentoo |
| 19:25.07 | ka6sox-office | setup-host-gentoo is supposed to make sure you have all the pre-requsite packages installed so that you can create the build environment. |
| 19:25.19 | jacques | I have no idea why it wants apache |
| 19:25.22 | blaster8 | mcfly587: what are your USE flags? |
| 19:25.37 | blaster8 | I used it on a fresh gentoo system and it did not request apache |
| 19:26.15 | mcfly587 | no special use flagsd |
| 19:26.26 | mcfly587 | nothing in my make.conf for use flags |
| 19:26.36 | blaster8 | what package wants apache? |
| 19:27.03 | mcfly587 | ~dev-libs/boost-1.32.0 ~* |
| 19:27.04 | mcfly587 | Calculating dependencies ...done! |
| 19:27.04 | mcfly587 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.04 | blaster8 | i.e. what was the last package to start before this threw the error |
| 19:27.30 | mcfly587 | its possible that's a pre-requiste packages ! |
| 19:27.46 | mcfly587 | i search |
| 19:27.51 | blaster8 | right - run emerge --pretend boost |
| 19:28.25 | blaster8 | mcfly587: apache should not be required |
| 19:28.46 | mcfly587 | Calculating dependencies ...done! |
| 19:28.46 | mcfly587 | [ebuild N ] dev-libs/boost-1.32.0-r4 |
| 19:28.50 | ka6sox-office | sounds like a protage problem. |
| 19:28.58 | blaster8 | can you run emerge sync |
| 19:29.05 | mcfly587 | ok |
| 19:30.30 | blaster8 | the only package, off the top of my head, that could pull in apache would be subversion |
| 19:31.41 | blaster8 | aah |
| 19:31.52 | mcfly587 | same problem |
| 19:31.57 | blaster8 | found the issue |
| 19:32.11 | blaster8 | can you run the following command (one second) |
| 19:33.09 | blaster8 | echo ~dev-util/subversion-1.1.4 ~* >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| 19:33.11 | blaster8 | as root |
| 19:34.25 | blaster8 | then retry |
| 19:35.17 | mcfly587 | mhmh i have an other error now :) for package apr-util masked ... i'm going to unmask this package in my keywords |
| 19:37.15 | blaster8 | echo ~dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.5 ~* >> /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| 19:37.21 | blaster8 | will do it - just in case |
| 19:40.10 | mcfly587 | that's seems ok, emerge in progress ... :) |
| 19:41.18 | mcfly587 | thanks all for your help ! |
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| 19:50.36 | blaster8 | time to test the power on modification |
| 19:52.07 | blaster8 | auto on works, shutdown works |
| 19:55.37 | blaster8 | and so does reboot |
| 19:56.01 | blaster8 | so, turboed and made to work like a proper embedded system in one day |
| 19:57.57 | jacques | cool |
| 19:59.36 | blaster8 | I'll glue a 2 pin header onto the back of the board and use a jumper to make a switch, so I can turn it on and off |
| 19:59.55 | blaster8 | but first I need to put in an order to Farnell for all the parts I need to finish this project |
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| 20:07.20 | blaster8 | hey rwhitby: notes on Unslung 6 above |
| 20:07.30 | rwhitby | blaster8: Unslung release schedule is up to ByronT, OpenSlug up to jbowler |
| 20:07.50 | blaster8 | thanks - didn't know that |
| 20:09.46 | rwhitby | we don't even start to consider calling something non-beta until it has been feature-stable and bug-free for at least 6 months. |
| 20:10.24 | blaster8 | hmm, bug-free? |
| 20:11.08 | vapier | wish jbowler would stop back in |
| 20:16.49 | rwhitby | blaster8: saw the notes, thx. Unfort. I think all those issues require kernel source ... |
| 20:20.56 | blaster8 | I'll keep complaining |
| 20:23.18 | rwhitby | thx for testing. were you able to mount a separate ntfs drive when unslung? |
| 20:25.24 | AdamBaker | rwhitby: re: bug 267 I didn't think we normally used update alternatives when the conflict was only with busybox |
| 20:26.25 | ka6sox-office | AdamBaker, thats good info to put in the notes section of that bug report. |
| 20:27.43 | blaster8 | rwhitby: don't use NTFS, sorry |
| 20:31.52 | rwhitby | AdamBaker: in that case, netstat should be included in net-tools, and net-tools should be marked as "Conflicts" with busybox. |
| 20:34.54 | AdamBaker | rwhitby: it is included - maybe ipkg doesn't notice the conflict if it is with a link rather than a file and then the install fails, either that or the bug reporter used the force option on ipkg |
| 20:36.49 | AdamBaker | presumably the conflict should actually be against busybox-links |
| 20:37.34 | rwhitby | indeed, yes. |
| 20:37.50 | rwhitby | we should change that in any other packages which conflict with busybox too. |
| 20:38.16 | rwhitby | (BTW, I was the bug reporter :-) |
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| 20:39.36 | rwhitby | indeed, it is installed. I guess I based the bug report on ipkgfind output, which looks like it was not correct, |
| 20:47.03 | AdamBaker | It looks like CIA is still down - I checked in the net-tools change |
| 20:48.32 | AdamBaker | Is Inge still the only person who can create developer bugzilla accounts - he appears to have overlooked the request I sent when I created the net-tools package |
| 20:50.28 | rwhitby | ka6sox can too |
| 20:50.30 | ka6sox-office | AdamBaker, is this in slugbug? |
| 20:50.42 | ka6sox-office | net-tools...its an unslung package? |
| 20:51.06 | AdamBaker | ka6sox: yes unslung |
| 20:51.38 | rwhitby | optware :-) |
| 20:51.44 | AdamBaker | my sf.net name is aabaker if you are keeping them aligned |
| 20:52.09 | ka6sox-office | optware-nslu2 |
| 20:52.21 | ka6sox-office | we need to realign the names in Slugbug. |
| 20:53.30 | ka6sox-office | okay its added. |
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| 21:24.57 | Joschi | hi - how can i get bb to recreate the files in /tmp/cross ? |
| 21:56.47 | Joschi | no clues? |
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| 22:18.26 | dyoung | "the files" isnt very descriptive, and we actually dont require anything to be in /tmp/cross . |
| 22:19.23 | Joschi | hm, when i do a "bb samba" it complains, the it can't find armeb-cross-gcc in there... |
| 22:19.38 | Joschi | the thing is that i switched to another buildsystem |
| 22:20.36 | Joschi | i compiled on x64 linux before, now i have i386, so it couldn't execute the 64bit-binaries |
| 22:20.42 | Joschi | which were in this folder |
| 22:23.08 | Joschi | so i thing i'll remove the whole tmp/ tree again :-/ |
| 22:24.12 | dyoung | Right, you will need to re-build your cross-compile env. |
| 22:24.35 | dyoung | that probably means youre cache needs cleaning too actually. |
| 22:24.46 | dyoung | why not just re-make the whole thing by mv tmp tmp.old |
| 22:25.52 | Joschi | i wanted to avoid to have to build all packages again |
| 22:26.10 | Joschi | but ok, i'll let it run over night ;) |
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