00:05.32 | gerrynjr | interesting... xscale dev boards are much more expensive... granted, they have more I/O accessible... |
00:14.13 | ka6sox-away | I'm used to standalone assemblers: will the C call this little program and where will I pass the arguments back to the C? |
00:14.24 | ka6sox-away | on the Stack? |
00:15.33 | ka6sox-away | sri for such dumb questions. |
00:19.49 | ka6sox-away | nm..figured it out |
00:30.11 | gerrynjr | ah.. the gumstix are cheap 8) |
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01:26.19 | ka6sox-away | wb kergoth |
01:31.36 | kergoth | thanks |
01:35.57 | [g2] | greets kergoth! |
01:36.14 | kergoth | hey |
01:37.58 | gerrynjr | hey kergoth |
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02:40.58 | CodeWhacker | ping VoodooZ |
02:43.57 | [g2] | Hey CodeWhacker what's happening |
02:45.05 | CodeWhacker | hey, [g2]. eventful weekend |
02:45.16 | [g2] | really ? How so ? |
02:45.42 | CodeWhacker | moved my desktop to 2.6, which turned out non-trivial. |
02:46.33 | [g2] | I saw some stuff in the logs. Did you wind up on 2.6.6 ? |
02:46.44 | CodeWhacker | gentoo 2.6.8 has usb issues, and nvidia's vid driver doesn't play well with 2.6.9-r3 vanilla |
02:46.59 | CodeWhacker | actually, I found the patch dance for nvidia and I'm on 2.6.9 |
02:47.25 | [g2] | most excellent.. You're running gentoo right ? |
02:47.40 | CodeWhacker | yep |
02:47.51 | CodeWhacker | but my flash reader died in the middle of this |
02:47.57 | [g2] | DOH! |
02:48.22 | [g2] | I know the pointer to the usbnet 2.6 bk repo :) |
02:48.33 | CodeWhacker | which made for some great frustration until I realized it was really dead |
02:48.53 | [g2] | wow... talk about unlucky |
02:49.16 | [g2] | You must have been making too much progress for one individual |
02:49.32 | CodeWhacker | so now my desktop has a floppy (because that was the only 3.5" internal flash reader I could find in town on short notice) |
02:49.42 | [g2] | :) |
02:50.48 | [g2] | So which ver of the nvidia drivers are you running ? |
02:51.00 | CodeWhacker | 6111, patched |
02:51.05 | [g2] | And how much will it cost me to get a pointer to the patch ? |
02:51.13 | CodeWhacker | :) |
02:51.17 | CodeWhacker | hang on a sec |
02:52.19 | VoodooZ | Hey!! |
02:56.44 | CodeWhacker | http://00f.net/blogs/index.php?blog=1&cat=16&page=1&disp=posts&paged=2 |
02:57.18 | CodeWhacker | You might hit a missing __VMALLOC_RESERVE symbol |
02:57.50 | CodeWhacker | if you do, add 'unsigned int __VMALLOC_RESERVE = 128 << 20;' to nv.c |
02:58.16 | VoodooZ | CodeWhacker: You pinged me master? :) |
02:58.42 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, yeah. didn't you say you couldn't mount a drive in openslug? |
02:59.07 | VoodooZ | Yeah, the necessary modules weren't being installed. |
02:59.26 | VoodooZ | I tried fixing it with [g2] but that caused more problems. |
02:59.50 | CodeWhacker | I just did a full build and I can mount a drive fine. |
03:00.02 | CodeWhacker | but I found another small problem |
03:00.06 | VoodooZ | I spliced them in the ramdisk and it works but there's still depmod problems.(modutils?) |
03:00.59 | CodeWhacker | haven't made any headway on modutils yet. 2.6 needs module-init-tools, but I haven't figgered out how to pull modutils out yet |
03:01.38 | CodeWhacker | and the host-built version still coughs on the machine ID. it's an endian thing |
03:01.56 | [g2] | Is that the ELF thing ? |
03:02.06 | VoodooZ | So what changes did you make to mount a drive and all? |
03:02.51 | VoodooZ | It's hard to understand the bootup sequence as the log is non sequential |
03:02.52 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, actually none. I plugged it in, hotplug recognized it and gave it a /dev entry, and I did 'mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1' |
03:03.14 | [g2] | after creating the mount point :) |
03:03.18 | VoodooZ | really? Is that with a fresh pull from the repo? |
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03:03.56 | CodeWhacker | [g2], when depmod loads a module to check it out, it looks at some header info. The machine ID is a short, and the i686 version doesn't know to flip it. |
03:04.08 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, yep |
03:04.49 | VoodooZ | Darn! Mine doesn't seem to work. I'll try yet again. Unless it's because I'm using a flash drive? |
03:04.52 | [g2] | CodeWhacker, so basically depmod is endian borked on the i686 |
03:04.54 | CodeWhacker | but beware a full build! that adjustment I made to the ramdisk size last Thurs nite turns out to be ill-advised |
03:05.07 | CodeWhacker | [g2], you are correct, sir! |
03:05.26 | VoodooZ | really? Do I need to adjust it? |
03:06.20 | CodeWhacker | when I did an everything pass this am 9rm -rf tmp), the rootfs build failed with a really strange error. I finally tracked it down to the disk image filling up. |
03:06.58 | VoodooZ | which error is that? the one you posted about earlier today? About a potentially corrupted fs? I got that too! |
03:07.11 | CodeWhacker | I jyst tried with 10240 and got a good boot, but a lot of interim complaints about 'can't access /etc/ld.so.conf' |
03:07.37 | CodeWhacker | so there's something lurking |
03:08.16 | VoodooZ | Just to recap: that value is what? the reserver max size for the compressed ramdisk ? |
03:08.26 | CodeWhacker | [g2], btw... maybe it's just subjective, but 2.6 feels snappier than 2.4 did |
03:08.53 | [g2] | On the desktop ? Mine definetly felt that way |
03:08.57 | CodeWhacker | IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 = "10240" |
03:08.57 | CodeWhacker | IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2.gz = "10240" |
03:09.11 | VoodooZ | ANd it should! I noticed that the anticipatory I/O scheduler is loaded. I can't wait to try to preemptive stuff too. |
03:09.14 | CodeWhacker | from ~packages/conf/nslu2.conf |
03:09.42 | VoodooZ | Yeah, but is that the max allowable size or? |
03:10.01 | CodeWhacker | the only thing I have left is 2.6 has borked my bluetooth. but I think my drivers were pretty old, anyway |
03:10.13 | [g2] | We need to trace down why we get the error with openslug |
03:10.32 | [g2] | 10MB shouldn't blow up |
03:10.43 | [g2] | unless it's related to ipkg |
03:10.54 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, that's the size of the disk that genext2fs creates. It's not completely full, but it's the full size the kernel is prepared for |
03:11.13 | [g2] | I'm wondering if we can do and ipkg DEPENDS but leave it off RDEPENDS for now |
03:11.16 | VoodooZ | And why are those the same size? (sorry for my ignorance) |
03:11.31 | CodeWhacker | [g2], it's not blowing up like it did when the size was 12288. |
03:12.38 | VoodooZ | CodeWhacker: Can you post your BOOT_EXTRA_RDEPENDS line in openslug.conf please? |
03:13.08 | CodeWhacker | BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-usbnet kernel-module-usbserial \ |
03:13.08 | CodeWhacker | kernel-module-usbcore kernel-module-usb-storage kernel-module-uhci-hcd \ |
03:13.08 | CodeWhacker | kernel-module-pegasus kernel-module-p8022 kernel-module-kaweth \ |
03:13.08 | CodeWhacker | kernel-module-ehci-hcd \ |
03:13.08 | CodeWhacker | kernel-module-scsi-mod kernel-module-sd-mod kernel-module-ext3 kernel-module-jbd \ |
03:13.09 | CodeWhacker | module-init-tools" |
03:14.28 | VoodooZ | Yeah, but the repo version of this file doesn't contain the scsi, jbd and ext3 stuff? You added those rigth? That's what I meant by it didn't work out-of-the-box. |
03:15.12 | CodeWhacker | oops. you are correct. I did add those |
03:15.39 | VoodooZ | I guess you could push those. They are needed anyways. |
03:16.19 | CodeWhacker | INIT: version 2.85 booting |
03:16.19 | CodeWhacker | /bin/sh: can't open cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' |
03:16.19 | CodeWhacker | [: can't open cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' |
03:16.30 | CodeWhacker | [g2], that's what I'm getting now |
03:16.44 | CodeWhacker | and lots more of them |
03:17.17 | [g2] | CodeWhacker, I think there's an issue with how the ramdisk is mae |
03:17.19 | [g2] | made |
03:17.24 | VoodooZ | I got lots of problems but never got that one. Let me build one, I probably will! |
03:17.36 | [g2] | I think it's truncated or there's a race during startup |
03:17.52 | VoodooZ | Can't I just avoid all that and boot from my flash USB key? |
03:18.09 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, :) |
03:18.34 | [g2] | I was able to get *really* close on a custom 2.6 kernel to booting off my harddrive |
03:19.01 | [g2] | I was just a mount -t proc proc /proc away from directly booting onto the hd |
03:19.02 | VoodooZ | What's the JBD module for anyways? Do I need to add one for Vfat? |
03:19.08 | [g2] | used by ext3 |
03:19.25 | CodeWhacker | journaling |
03:19.34 | [g2] | vfat for msdos flash sticks |
03:19.49 | VoodooZ | I see. I noticed that they have built-in dependencies so just loading scsi for example will get the other ones. |
03:19.53 | VoodooZ | [g2]: Thanks. |
03:20.45 | VoodooZ | I noticed that when they are all loaded the ramdisk overflows or something so I removed all the usbnet/serial which I don't use yet. |
03:21.36 | VoodooZ | If I can only get access to my flash drive then I can start experimenting with the I2C stuff. |
03:21.44 | CodeWhacker | speaking of sticks, I ran across one of these at Target today: http://www.efunctional.com/pqifi128us.html |
03:21.48 | VoodooZ | Then again, the i2c devices are not being created properly so.. |
03:22.18 | Tiersten | CodeWhacker: That's the USB1 version |
03:22.21 | Tiersten | The USB2 version is black |
03:22.24 | VoodooZ | Building.... |
03:22.41 | VoodooZ | What are those CodeWhacker? (I can't copy and paste from windows it seems. |
03:23.15 | hculver | I'm having trouble getting nfs-utils to compile under oe and it seems to be related to linux-libc-headers. |
03:23.23 | CodeWhacker | true. I got a USB 2.0, but it actually is branded by GE |
03:23.41 | Tiersten | I've got one of the USB 2 PQI Intelligent Sticks |
03:23.47 | Tiersten | Works fine and it fits nicely into my wallet |
03:23.57 | VoodooZ | Newbie question of the day: When you 'ping' someone in IRC, is it just to get his attention? |
03:24.02 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, it's an Intelligent Stick USB drive. |
03:24.18 | VoodooZ | intelligent??? What does it do more than your plain one? |
03:24.22 | Tiersten | Nothing |
03:24.23 | CodeWhacker | mine has some intensely funky partition on it that linux doesn't like |
03:24.25 | Tiersten | It's just a name |
03:24.40 | hculver | It compiles OK with the snapgear toolchain, but I get lots of conflicting definitions from the headers in the oe toolchain. |
03:24.40 | Tiersten | CodeWhacker: That's the useless private partition thing |
03:25.02 | Tiersten | You can defeat the "security" on them fairly easily |
03:25.02 | CodeWhacker | Win98 mounts it OK. Going to try it on XP at work tomorrow, and then probably format it. |
03:25.18 | Tiersten | Didn't know that PQI rebrand them for anybody else though |
03:25.29 | CodeWhacker | Tiersten, is it the same bogus scheme Lexar uses? |
03:25.42 | Tiersten | The horrible PQI Windows app lets you create or delete the special partitioning |
03:26.13 | Tiersten | It's not encrypted or anything like that but they don't say it is anyway |
03:26.34 | Tiersten | It's just got a wacky partition near the end of the stick which doesn't get recognised by standard software |
03:27.23 | CodeWhacker | I should repartition mine with a "secure" area and then poke around |
03:27.30 | Tiersten | That's all their software is doing. It's not quite as bad as Lexar since they don't claim encryption |
03:27.50 | Tiersten | For the average person out there it's secure enough anyway |
03:27.58 | CodeWhacker | 'XOR flamingo' *is* encryption! :) |
03:28.14 | Tiersten | Yeah but so is ROT13 :) |
03:28.30 | Tiersten | *cough* Adobe eBooks |
03:28.44 | Tiersten | If you're that CueCat company then BASE64 is encryption ;) |
03:29.43 | CodeWhacker | actually, cuecats used XOR 0xCC |
03:29.54 | Tiersten | Didn't they use base64 as well? |
03:29.56 | CodeWhacker | *then* they used base-64 on top of that |
03:30.17 | Tiersten | because that's secure... |
03:30.28 | Tiersten | triple DES is only actually using two keys anyway |
03:30.53 | Tiersten | You're just doing 3 operations but only with 2 keys |
03:31.00 | CodeWhacker | I know, but that sorta takes the steam outta the joke |
03:31.12 | Tiersten | heh |
03:32.02 | Tiersten | Use Rijndael anyway :) |
03:32.04 | Tiersten | Much nicer |
03:32.36 | CodeWhacker | RC5 |
03:32.52 | CodeWhacker | that one never really caught on |
03:32.59 | Tiersten | What? RC5? |
03:33.06 | CodeWhacker | yeah. |
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03:34.02 | Tiersten | It's used in a few things but not particularly much no |
03:34.28 | VoodooZ | CodeWhacker: Told you! Now I'm getting hundreds of those ld.so.cache errors like you! That's luck! |
03:34.39 | Tiersten | RC6 got turned down for AES |
03:34.54 | VoodooZ | It at least gave me a shell! |
03:35.19 | CodeWhacker | VoodooZ, that's not luck, it's meticulous attention to the details of a master. |
03:35.38 | VoodooZ | heheheh. I'm more of a copy-cat! |
03:36.27 | CIA-7 | 03CodeWhacker 07 * r1.2329 10packages/conf/openslug.conf: Add the modules needed to mount disks. |
03:36.41 | VoodooZ | CodeWhacker: Thanks! |
03:36.48 | CodeWhacker | np |
03:37.28 | VoodooZ | I already have a hard time understanding like that without messing up the whole OE structure trying to post my changesets! :) |
03:38.27 | VoodooZ | The weird thing though Is it doesn't tell me which /dev/sda entry is associated with my USB key and Hard disk. Shouldn't it? |
03:40.55 | CodeWhacker | your key and drive will be separate entries. /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
03:41.39 | VoodooZ | I know but shouldn't specify which one is which when it first enumerates them like on a PC? |
03:43.13 | VoodooZ | doing fdisk on any /dev/sdn entry of trying to mount doesn't work so I guess I'm still missing something. Maybe I'll try pulling your copy just in case. |
03:43.35 | CodeWhacker | hmmm.... won't mount my usb key |
03:43.43 | hculver | Anybody out there running 2.6 (with kernel headers) who can tell me whether nfs-utils-1.0.6 compiles OK? |
03:44.11 | CodeWhacker | I get a /dev/sdb1, but no 'mount -t vfat' joy |
03:44.43 | VoodooZ | could be a problem witht the vfat support. try formatting it to ext2/3. |
03:44.59 | VoodooZ | I can't even get a /dev/sdn assigned! |
03:45.10 | CodeWhacker | I'll try that with another key. this one has stuff I want to keep on it |
03:46.02 | CodeWhacker | hculver, stby... compiling |
03:46.15 | VoodooZ | So is there a hard limit to changing the ramdisk size constant? |
03:47.37 | CodeWhacker | hculver, nfs-utils-1.0.6-r4 from portage compiles against 2.6.9-rc3 with no complaints |
03:48.25 | hculver | hmmm, I've got no trouble with the snapgear toolchain which has 2.4.22 headers, but I've got trouble with oe which is using linux-libc-headers-2.6.8. |
03:49.15 | hculver | CodeWhacker: I'm getting conflicting types between linux/nfs.h and rpcsvc/nfs_prot.h. |
03:49.38 | CodeWhacker | hculver, is that an oe build giving you probs? |
03:49.48 | hculver | CodeWhacker: yeah. |
03:50.07 | CodeWhacker | lemme try building it in oe. I just checked my desktop |
03:50.56 | hculver | CodeWhacker: I'm trying add a new package to oe (nfs-utils). |
03:51.06 | CodeWhacker | good man! |
03:51.54 | CodeWhacker | and that would explain why I get 'nothing provides nfs-utils' :) |
03:52.35 | CodeWhacker | hculver, want to send me your .oe file? |
03:52.51 | hculver | CodeWhacker: I'm gonna have to compare the linux-2.6.x headers for nfs.h and nfs_prot.h and those from linux-libc-headers. |
03:53.39 | hculver | CodeWhacker: to the address I see in irc? |
03:57.24 | [g2] | CodeWhacker, VoodooZ, hculver, jacques -- any others here's an openslug question |
03:58.01 | [g2] | I'm toying with the idea of just capturing a oe build snapshot. |
03:58.03 | VoodooZ | If we have an openslug question? Not a specific one no, but lots of problems :) |
03:58.56 | [g2] | And creating a shell script that more or less builds all the tools/toolchains to build the source. |
03:58.58 | VoodooZ | Anything! As long as I can get a working setup. I'll even send paypal you a beer! :) |
03:59.28 | [g2] | Well VoodooZ we had a 2.6 kernel build shell script |
03:59.46 | VoodooZ | I know and i had way more success with that one too! |
03:59.47 | [g2] | The real question is what does one want on the ramdisk |
04:00.26 | [g2] | long-term I think oe is great fit for openslug |
04:00.40 | VoodooZ | I guess in my case because I'm aiming at a robot board, I just need it to support my usb key so I can boot off it and then I can modify the rest. |
04:01.21 | [g2] | short-term, we may want to stablize the kernel and fight the oe learning curve later |
04:01.44 | [g2] | I don't know, I'm wondering how you guys are feeling about that |
04:02.35 | CodeWhacker | [g2], I think it's a not-half-bad idea for more casual developers that don't want to climb the oe curve |
04:03.12 | CodeWhacker | but it implies that someone will have to periodically refresh it... unless you make it into an oe target. :) |
04:03.20 | kergoth | refresh what? |
04:03.34 | [g2] | ahh... just the man we need |
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04:05.04 | [g2] | kergoth, for openslug I seem to be running into some stumbling blocks because I'm an oe idiot |
04:05.31 | [g2] | that coupled with the 2.6.x issues is like fight a battle on two fronts |
04:06.33 | [g2] | it's gets compounded by the fact that oe runs the latest stuff and ever though our nslu2 specific stuff doesn't change our builds change from hour to hour |
04:07.02 | kergoth | so create a .conf like we did for openzaurus-3.5.1 |
04:07.10 | kergoth | exert control over what versions of the packges you want. |
04:07.25 | [g2] | that would certainly help |
04:07.31 | kergoth | its not hard to make builds from oe a reproducable element |
04:08.21 | CodeWhacker | hculver, this? |
04:08.25 | CodeWhacker | | rmtab.c:27: error: `NFS_STATEDIR' undeclared (first use in this function) |
04:09.42 | VoodooZ | Whatever you guys come up with on the openslug front, post it here and I'll read it tommorow morning as I my 5km race and hockey game killed and I need to crash bad. |
04:09.49 | VoodooZ | Good night/morning! |
04:10.04 | hculver | That was probably one of them, but most of them were conflicting types for things like NFS_OK between linux/nfs.h and rpcsvc/nfs_prot.h |
04:11.47 | CodeWhacker | that was the only error I got, and the compile crashed on it |
04:12.27 | [g2] | dyoung-brikmastr, we've got two issues 1) kernel issues, 2) process and rootfs issues -- With a shell script we can divide and conquer |
04:12.34 | hculver | CodeWhacker, I'm oemaking again (and I didn't save the errors from the last make). |
04:13.23 | dyoung | I guess I can stop being the brickmaster now. |
04:13.28 | ka6sox-away | heh |
04:13.39 | CodeWhacker | hculver, tmp/work/nfs-utils-1.0.6-r0/temp/ keeps logs |
04:14.35 | dyoung | I have yet to make a workable rootfs that works with 2.6.7 properly. I havnt given a whole lot of effort over the past 2 weeks though. |
04:15.34 | hculver | CodeWhacker: making all in nfs, compiling exports.c ... |
04:16.05 | [g2] | dyoung, define workable |
04:16.14 | hculver | export/project/openembedded/build/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/linux/nfs.h:40: error: conflicting types for 'NFS_OK' |
04:16.39 | hculver | export/project/openembedded/build/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/rpcsvc/nfs_prot.h:33: error: previous definition of 'NFS_OK' was here |
04:16.56 | CodeWhacker | hculver, this from 'oemake nfs-utils'? |
04:17.09 | hculver | CodeWhacker: yes. |
04:17.25 | kergoth | heh, does it really need to pull in linux/nfs.h? |
04:17.45 | CodeWhacker | strange, I don't see that at all |
04:18.00 | CodeWhacker | it blows up in rmtab.c here |
04:18.39 | dyoung | Well, I still have broken device nodes. Like I said though, I havnt touched it in 2 weeks. |
04:20.16 | CodeWhacker | gotta go, guys. I'll check in from work tomorrow (oop... later today) |
04:20.32 | hculver | thanks CodeWhacker. Have a good one. |
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04:23.19 | dyoung | bbiab |
04:24.13 | hculver | kergoth, any advice. my nfs-utils build fine with the snapgear toolchain (containing 2.4.22 kernel headers) but I'm having trouble with the oe linux-libc-headers (2.6.8). |
04:24.51 | kergoth | does it build against 2.6 at all? |
04:24.55 | kergoth | if not, it needs to be fixed |
04:25.05 | kergoth | 2.6 is the current stable kernel series. |
04:25.24 | hculver | CodeWhacker just verified for me that yes nfs-utils-1.0.6 compiles fine against 2.6. |
04:26.42 | hculver | I'll keep digging, I just thought you may have seen similar things before and point me in the right direction. |
04:28.32 | kergoth | the sanitized headers are great, but they arent perfect. they're missing headers for mipsel and others, and it wouldnt surprise me if you've found a bug. |
04:28.43 | kergoth | needs investigation |
04:29.21 | hculver | ok, thx |
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04:31.06 | hculver | nite all |
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04:37.05 | [g2] | nite all |
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10:03.26 | dyoung | Sure is quiet today. |
10:04.18 | Latent`` | yeap |
10:04.24 | Latent`` | hows your s3 board going? |
10:12.00 | dyoung | Its a learning challenge. |
10:12.27 | Latent | well learning is good :) |
10:12.35 | dyoung | Yes it is! |
10:12.42 | dyoung | Learning is my friend. usually. |
10:22.45 | Latent | goodnight dyoung-sleep |