| 00:01.41 | ka6sox | rwhitby-away: I'm noticing a lot of times I have to reload a page several times before it will display. getting a lot of 404 errors. |
| 00:01.56 | ka6sox | different machines: different browsers. |
| 00:02.24 | [g2]-away | rwhitby-away, when I build the -vfatdisk2 it works with the big vfat disk on port2 |
| 00:02.40 | [g2]-away | # df |
| 00:02.40 | [g2]-away | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 00:02.40 | [g2]-away | rootfs 9911 8928 881 91% / |
| 00:02.40 | [g2]-away | /dev/root.old 9911 8928 881 91% / |
| 00:02.40 | [g2]-away | /dev/sdb1 119995104 32 119995072 0% /share/flash/data |
| 00:52.05 | ka6sox | okay stupid question #1 for the day: I've unslung my slug but it doesn't respond to the root pw for uNSLUng? doe this mean it failed? |
| 00:53.19 | [g2]-away | ka6sox, was the disk unslung before ? |
| 00:53.26 | ka6sox | no |
| 00:53.32 | ka6sox | it is a stock one. |
| 00:53.54 | ka6sox | formtted by the slug 10 minutes ago with R25 |
| 00:54.05 | [g2] | did you run unsling |
| 00:54.26 | ka6sox | oh...no...I didn't see that in the readme. |
| 00:54.53 | [g2] | enable telnet via the web intf |
| 00:54.57 | [g2] | telnet in and unsling |
| 00:55.05 | [g2] | reboto |
| 00:55.08 | [g2] | or reboot |
| 00:55.15 | ka6sox | that is the problem . telnet is enabled and the root pw is not working. |
| 00:55.22 | ka6sox | okay rebooting now. |
| 00:56.21 | [g2] | ka6sox, you should have been able to get in |
| 00:56.26 | [g2] | which password did you us |
| 00:56.29 | [g2] | e |
| 00:56.34 | ka6sox | uNSLUng |
| 00:57.21 | [g2] | What does the top admin web page say in the upper right when you web to the box ? |
| 00:57.37 | ka6sox | oh..it failed... |
| 00:57.42 | ka6sox | still R25 |
| 00:57.50 | ka6sox | hmmm weird. |
| 00:57.57 | [g2] | Firmware Version: V2.3R25-uNSLUng-1.11-beta |
| 00:58.10 | ka6sox | V2.3R25 |
| 00:58.18 | ka6sox | it failed then. |
| 00:58.26 | [g2] | looks like it |
| 00:58.34 | [g2] | the flash didn't |
| 00:58.41 | ka6sox | okay brb |
| 00:59.24 | ka6sox | I made a fatal misteak...I left the HD plugged in... |
| 00:59.28 | ka6sox | my bad. |
| 01:00.18 | [g2] | ka6sox, that shouldn't matter but it goes faster if you don't have one plugged in |
| 01:00.44 | ka6sox | okay trying again. |
| 01:01.43 | ka6sox | thanks...been a stressful day...bricked my G4 too...with a Debian YaBoot problem :P |
| 01:02.27 | Tiersten | Hey |
| 01:02.32 | [g2] | suck |
| 01:02.52 | Tiersten | ka6sox: I believe the proper term is "boat anchor". A brick the size of a G4 would have to be for one big house! |
| 01:02.54 | Tiersten | ;) |
| 01:03.10 | [g2] | lol |
| 01:03.17 | ka6sox | yes! |
| 01:03.43 | ka6sox | no version of Knoppix for PPC yet. |
| 01:04.02 | [g2] | there's gentoo for the ppc |
| 01:04.25 | Tiersten | I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Gentoo for most platforms. It's not like they have to make binaries :) |
| 01:04.53 | ka6sox | okay..one beep and then alternative red/green flashing. |
| 01:05.48 | [g2] | Tiersten, on the contrary my friend, where do the livecd's come from? And there's the GRP install which is mostly a binary install |
| 01:06.16 | ka6sox | have I bricked it..its been flashing for over 2 minutes |
| 01:06.21 | ka6sox | after the beep |
| 01:06.54 | Tiersten | [g2]: Ah well. Live cds don't count ;) And GRP didn't always exist ;) |
| 01:07.10 | Tiersten | Any other points you may wish to make also don't count ;) |
| 01:07.17 | ka6sox | ouch! |
| 01:07.32 | Tiersten | Anything appear on the serial port? |
| 01:07.40 | [g2] | Tiersten, it's a good thing you're working on something I need/want :) |
| 01:07.53 | ka6sox | haven't modded this one yet... |
| 01:08.05 | Tiersten | You want my chocolate chip cookie recipe? Well okay... |
| 01:08.05 | ka6sox | looks like I will be doing that tonight. |
| 01:08.19 | Tiersten | You could do the redboot telnet thing |
| 01:08.33 | ka6sox | looks like I will be doing that! |
| 01:10.56 | hculver | got a failed oe build with rwhitby's local.conf and a bk pull from just before the build. |
| 01:11.02 | hculver | install: cannot stat `/export/project/openembedded/build/tmp/work/busybox-1.00-rc3-r6/udhcp-serrver': No such file or directory |
| 01:11.24 | hculver | NOTE: Task failed: |
| 01:11.24 | hculver | ERROR: package busybox-1.00-rc3-r6: task do_package failed |
| 01:11.24 | hculver | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 01:11.24 | hculver | ERROR: package busybox: build failed |
| 01:11.24 | hculver | ERROR: Build of bootstrap-image failed |
| 01:11.52 | Tiersten | hculver: Did you work out what was wrong with your wiggler setup? |
| 01:12.03 | hculver | sorry didn't mean to make it sound like I was blaming someone. |
| 01:12.27 | hculver | No haven't gotten back to the jtag stuff yet. Working on 2 different nslu kernel builds. |
| 01:14.33 | [g2] | hculver, what were you oemake'ing |
| 01:15.14 | hculver | unslung |
| 01:16.14 | [g2] | which unslung |
| 01:17.12 | hculver | OK, I'm still coming up to speed (after a few weeks off). Whatever a bk pull and the local.conf that rwhitby posted to nslu-changessets gives me. |
| 01:17.41 | hculver | I'm guessing unslung 2.x |
| 01:20.12 | [g2] | hculver, I mean what did you type on the oemake command |
| 01:20.34 | [g2] | oemake unslung ? |
| 01:21.06 | hculver | oh, sorry. oemake bootstrap-image, not correct? |
| 01:21.31 | [g2] | well, I think that was correct |
| 01:22.12 | hculver | DISTRO="unslung" TARGET_OS="linux" |
| 01:22.39 | [g2] | for the 2.x stuff I did a oemake nslu2-unslung-kernel-vfatdisk2 and nslu2-unslung-ramdisk |
| 01:22.58 | hculver | OK, still an oe n00b |
| 01:23.15 | [g2] | I think there's a nslu2-unslung-kernel-ext3... and a plain kernel |
| 01:23.32 | [g2] | hculver, join the crowd |
| 01:24.07 | hculver | a full belly and 2 glasses of shiraz don't help much. :) |
| 01:24.27 | [g2] | :) |
| 01:25.08 | hculver | I think I'll do another bk pull. Its been several hours. |
| 01:25.32 | [g2] | there's probably no need |
| 01:26.11 | hculver | you're right. |
| 01:28.26 | [g2] | I'm about to try unslinging from the oe build ramdisk |
| 01:28.44 | hculver | [g2]: gl |
| 01:29.20 | [g2] | well there's an unsling command there :) |
| 01:29.26 | ka6sox | okay this is weird. |
| 01:29.40 | ka6sox | I can get the web interface to work. |
| 01:29.45 | ka6sox | and it reports unslung |
| 01:30.08 | ka6sox | BUT telnet won't let me in with the uNSLUng password. |
| 01:31.42 | [g2] | ka6sox, which sw are you running ? |
| 01:32.32 | ka6sox | okay this is weird...it said unslung a minute ago..and now it says V2.3R25 |
| 01:32.53 | [g2] | it only says that on the top page |
| 01:32.58 | [g2] | the unslung.... |
| 01:33.14 | ka6sox | okay the top page says unslung |
| 01:33.29 | ka6sox | 1.1-beta |
| 01:33.30 | [g2] | that's normal not wierd |
| 01:33.36 | ka6sox | okay. |
| 01:34.02 | ka6sox | so either I'm sending the wrong information or something else is happening. |
| 01:34.40 | ka6sox | login incorrect. |
| 01:35.16 | ka6sox | lemme get the serial port setup here on this one and I'll check to see what is coming out. |
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| 01:36.39 | rwhitby-away | hculver: did you bk -r co -q ? |
| 01:36.48 | rwhitby-away | after each bk pull ? |
| 01:37.19 | rwhitby-away | hculver: use unslung-image, not bootstrap-image |
| 01:38.21 | hculver | rwhitby, yes. |
| 01:39.13 | hculver | OK, I;ve done an oemake nslu2-unslung-kernel, should I stop that? |
| 01:39.28 | rwhitby-away | no that's fine |
| 01:39.41 | rwhitby-away | just do an unslung-image afterwards |
| 01:39.51 | hculver | ok |
| 01:40.34 | rwhitby-away | [if you just want the kernels then you don't need to do unslung-image, but it looks from your error that busybox might be broken, so you'll want to stay away from bootstrap-image until it's fixed] |
| 01:42.00 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, the vfat2 disk worked on port2 when made with -vfatdisk2, I've unslung from the nslu2-unslung-ramdisk, but there were two sed errors. |
| 01:42.09 | [g2] | The pw seemed fine |
| 01:42.19 | rwhitby-away | and if something is fixed in openembedded.bkbits.net but hasn't been pulled into nslu2-linux.bkbits.net, then you can always bk parent temporarilily to openembedded to pick up the latest changesets from there. BitKeeper is smart enough to know you've already got those next time you bk parent back to nslu2-linux and bk pull. |
| 01:42.41 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: the sed in unsling is expected, as we haven't spliced in the support utils yet. |
| 01:42.53 | [g2] | and I've got the path I dislike |
| 01:43.10 | rwhitby-away | good news on the vfatdisk2 (it's called vfatdisk2, not vfat2disk, cause it only causes vfat on the disk2 port) |
| 01:43.14 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, the pw for root in /passwd was correct though |
| 01:43.36 | rwhitby-away | yeah - if you unsling a virgin disk, then you don't need the seds |
| 01:44.11 | [g2] | ah.. |
| 01:44.28 | [g2] | it runs to check, but the sed wouldn't have executed |
| 01:44.39 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 01:44.56 | [g2] | Ok, then I'm unslung on 2.x with the vfatdisk2 kernel |
| 01:45.09 | rwhitby-away | just pulling latest from openembedded into nslu2-linux now |
| 01:45.14 | [g2] | well... I just haven't flashed it |
| 01:45.35 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: cool - you won't have an ipkg script there, so no point in flashing until we splice the stuff in |
| 01:46.19 | [g2] | np.. oe is working nicely when you know what to build! :) |
| 01:46.59 | rwhitby-away | yep, we're getting close - as soon as we do the splice then a whole world of packages will open up |
| 01:48.08 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, was there a final decision on /opt versus normal install on an unslung disk ? |
| 01:48.55 | rwhitby-away | not yet. Kergoth said that we should be able to do /opt in OE easily, and packages which don't act accordingly are considered to have a bug |
| 01:51.28 | rwhitby-away | what's your opinion on that, [g2]? |
| 01:52.19 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, well, we've started down the slipery slope. |
| 01:52.34 | [g2] | I this case I don't think that's a bad thing |
| 01:52.41 | rwhitby-away | which slope? |
| 01:52.55 | rwhitby-away | normal or /opt? |
| 01:53.12 | [g2] | diversion from unslung |
| 01:53.41 | [g2] | originally, unslung was "stock kernel and libs" with diversion scripts |
| 01:53.50 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 01:54.07 | rwhitby-away | and unslung firmware will remain as that |
| 01:54.54 | hculver | oooooo 2.4.22-xfs-nslu2.patch. I may need to apply that to the stock snapgear 3.1.1 and compile the nfs module again (don't have to manually apply the 2.4.21 xfs patches). |
| 01:55.42 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: [we're only flashing in those packages which are required to run unsling and ipkg and last-resort recovery] |
| 01:55.44 | [g2] | ok. so nslu2-unslung is will include a package manager |
| 01:56.54 | rwhitby-away | yep, that's what we're splicing in |
| 01:57.12 | rwhitby-away | you mean "unslung-image", right? |
| 01:57.33 | rwhitby-away | [which includes nslu2-unslung-kernels and nslu2-unslung-ramdisk] |
| 01:58.10 | rwhitby-away | I'm setting it up so someone can do a slugplus-image and include other packages in the ramdisk for systems without external storage. |
| 01:58.11 | [g2] | well it gets blurry to me that splicing in nfs support, etc... violates the "stock kernel". Clearly I think end-users want functionality and only mildly care about backwards compatibility |
| 01:59.10 | rwhitby-away | you mean nfs support in kernel (for loading rootfs from nfs) or nfs-server support for users (which can easily be done with a package) |
| 02:00.09 | rwhitby-away | hculver: bootstrap-image works now (if you were looking for a busybox compile for some reason) - they must have fixed it overnight |
| 02:00.35 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: end-users of unslung will complain bitterly if stock functionality does not work for some reason |
| 02:00.57 | hculver | no, just that my 2nd oemake bootstrap-image failed on busybox. |
| 02:01.12 | hculver | just getting my feet wet. |
| 02:01.21 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: [unless they intentionally add a package which is clearly marked as overriding stock functionality] |
| 02:01.46 | rwhitby-away | hculver: looks like it was just a temporary oe problem in the parent repo - seems to be fixed now |
| 02:01.48 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, ok. |
| 02:02.09 | rwhitby-away | slugplus or openslug is a different matter altogether |
| 02:02.32 | hculver | [g2]: btw, you were right, my original oemake was OK. I still had my zImage in my /tftpboot directory and did an exec instead of an go and it booted ok. |
| 02:03.14 | [g2] | hculver, great. that's good to know |
| 02:03.19 | rwhitby-away | yeah, go doesn't seem to work with oe made images - you need to run exec 0x01d00000 |
| 02:04.03 | hculver | (of course thats after I rm -rf build/tmp'd). :) |
| 02:05.20 | hculver | I know its a bit off topic, but I like that my snapgear 3.1.1 w/Intel patches boots. |
| 02:06.26 | hculver | Actually the openslug 2.6 kernel booted with a completely unrelated ramdisk. |
| 02:06.54 | hculver | (lots of unresolved references, but a # is a #). |
| 02:07.11 | [g2] | hculver, congrats on the snapgear 3.1.1 |
| 02:08.05 | hculver | If I can get that xfs patch applied, I think the nfs kernel module will compile and then nfs v3 and > 2G should work (I know unfs is already working). |
| 02:09.09 | rwhitby-away | bbiab |
| 02:10.29 | hculver | my oemake nslu2-unslung-kernel just finished. |
| 02:12.28 | [g2] | when rwhitby-away comes back he can explain the exact differences between the 3 nslu2-unslung kernels the -vfatdisk2 allows large msdos/vfat disks on port 2 |
| 02:13.03 | [g2] | there's an ext3 something amd the normal kernel |
| 02:15.43 | hculver | nslu2-unslung-kernel looks pretty good. |
| 02:16.23 | hculver | doing an oemake unslung-image now. |
| 02:21.55 | hculver | you know, #tivo is not a very happy place to be. I've been lurking there for days, and anyone other than a rather small clique is ignored. |
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| 02:23.20 | Tiersten | Yup |
| 02:24.06 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: the differences are captured in the patch files in nslu2-unslung-kernel-2.4.22 directory |
| 02:25.06 | rwhitby-away | ext3flash mounts all disks as ext3 (even flash disks). vfatdisk2 mounts anything on the disk2 port as vfat (even hard disks). the normal one is normal unslung behaviour (1Gb limit between vfat flash and ext3 hard disk) |
| 02:26.00 | rwhitby-away | hculver: yeah, we have a number of lurkers here, and I'm always on the lookout for them to make themselves know if they wish :-) |
| 02:26.21 | rwhitby-away | [or just stay lurking if they wish too :-)] |
| 02:28.39 | rwhitby-away | ... make themselves known (typo) .... |
| 02:29.25 | hculver | yeah, well I used to be god's gift to programming, now I'm happy with every fragment of help I get. |
| 02:35.25 | hculver | "The very young do not always do as they are told" - Stargate SG-1 |
| 02:36.02 | rwhitby-away | ok - I'm off for a picnic lunch |
| 02:36.06 | rwhitby-away | ~weather YPAD |
| 02:36.24 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, enjoy! turn off the -treo |
| 02:36.25 | hculver | bon-apetite |
| 02:36.40 | [g2] | I'm off to sleep early |