IRC log for #melange on 20081021

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03:09.19lhAllen: how goes?
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03:38.26SRabbelierlh: mhhh, Pawel's as_table work is really nice, but would be even nicer if there was a as_public_table :P
03:43.41lhSRabbelier: explain what this means
03:48.48SRabbelierlh: he's made a really cool as_table method
03:48.57SRabbelierlh: instead of having to manually specify all fields in the Django template
03:49.07SRabbelierlh: we can just go 'entity | as_table', and voila!
03:49.20SRabbelierlh: but there's no way to create the 'public' page yet that way
03:50.14lhSRabbelier: this should be easy to fix. concentrate on your work. :p
03:50.22SRabbelierlh: I need it to finish my work xD
03:50.43SRabbelierlh: but you are right, it won't stop me from almost-finishing what I"m doing :)
03:51.42SRabbelierdurin42, mithro, Allen|away, penyaskito: ping?
03:52.19SRabbelierlol
03:52.36SRabbelierany of you guys know how to properly display a db.ReferenceProperty?
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04:18.30SRabbelierlh, durin42: anyone remember if hosts were per-program, or per-sponsor?
04:19.29lhSRabbelier: i still dont understand the host sponsor blah blah
04:20.43SRabbelierlh: heh, great :P
04:20.55SRabbelierlh: Sponsor = google
04:21.00SRabbelierlh: host = you
04:21.14SRabbelierlh: but I'm not sure if a Host is for "GSoC2008" or for "Google"
04:24.10lhsee there's no way in hell you should not know that.
04:24.14lhthat's a problem.
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18:42.20tlarsen_vmSverre isn't here.  :(
19:54.04durin42tlarsen_vm: Think I got a basic nose setup working so that running our tests is 'python tests/run.py'
19:54.26durin42doesn't do everything I want yet (would be nice to have doctests on by default) but it seems to be working for now
19:54.29tlarsen_vmNice.  Do you have any tests as examples?
19:54.37durin42Not yet.
19:54.46tlarsen_vmWill you be running them as part of buildbot?
19:54.47durin42I was figuring I'd include an example test of a view as part of the review.
19:54.52durin42That was the plan. :)
19:54.57tlarsen_vm(also, is that buildbot status still exposed somewhere?)
19:55.08tlarsen_vmNice!
19:55.11durin42Really all test/run.py does is muck with sys.path and a couple of environment variables
19:55.15durin42http://melange.durin42.com
19:55.17tpbTitle: Welcome to the Buildbot (at melange.durin42.com)
19:55.35durin42oh, crap.
19:55.39durin42locked working copy.
19:56.45durin42tlarsen_vm: one advantage of using nose this way is it imports all the source files we have as it looks for tests
19:56.57durin42which means it effectively does a high-level lint of even uncovered files
19:58.08durin42tlarsen_vm: next time someone commits the buildbot should be fixed
19:58.16tlarsen_vmIs this buildbot mentioned somewhere in the /p/soc/ wiki yet?
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19:58.21durin42probably not
19:58.32durin42it'd be nice to have a more real home for it than my home dsl if it's going to get real traffic
19:58.41tlarsen_vmYeah, true.
19:58.53durin42I've got a little bitty soda straw because the infrastructure is so old.
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19:59.16tlarsen_vmWe don't really have any "it's just running Linux and Apache" outward-facing machines at Google, as you know.
19:59.27durin42Yeah, I know.
19:59.53tlarsen_vmWell, once Comcast gets off their duff and installs the cable Internet, I will have 8M/512K DSL and a redundant cable Internet.
19:59.56durin42I was thinking of maybe talking to people at the summit and see if someone could donate some "real" hosting for a buildbot.
20:00.07tlarsen_vmYes, that is a good plan.
20:00.14durin42Yeah, or if Verizon gets FiOS in my area soon, that'll be an option.
20:21.25tlarsen_vmdurin42: Things finally started moving forward on the Comcast front when, on the *third* on-site visit, they finally decided they needed to treat it as "new construction".
20:23.10durin42tlarsen_vm: how clever of them
20:23.57tlarsen_vmYeah, they kept wanting to run the line above ground on a power pole that I kept telling them the local utility was going to remove because the utilities for the two houses are now buried.
20:24.17tlarsen_vmI even showed them the 1.5" conduit that had been run from the street to the houses just for them.
20:24.29tlarsen_vmIt has pull strings, an mid-way access box to make the pull easier, etc.
20:24.55tlarsen_vmThe phone company came out months ago, in one visit, and established phone service to both houses in their dedicated conduit in about an hour.
20:26.50durin42Clearly you made it so easy for them they were baffled.
20:27.04tlarsen_vmYeah.
20:27.31tlarsen_vmThey need to put in a tap at the street, which is why they are calling it "new construction" and going to charge me more for installation, even though at least one of the houses has had service before.
20:28.00tlarsen_vmBoth houses are already pre-wired, with patch panels in closets, cable in the wall, and outlets in every room.
20:28.15durin42very nice
20:28.21tlarsen_vmAll they have to do is get their wire to the service entrance box on the back of each house, and I can take it from there.
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23:14.04SRabbeliertlarsen_vm: ping?
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