IRC log for #meego on 20101007

00:01.43aukesee: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux for a list of handset UX applications and components
00:02.20thebootrooso no
00:02.47aukedid you look?
00:02.55thebootrooyes
00:03.47wmaronewhat's this: http://meego.gitorious.com/meego-handset-ux/meego-handset-photo
00:03.59thebootroothe album ;-)
00:04.00aukeactually
00:04.02aukeyes
00:04.13aukethere's no camera application for handset UX yet, is the answer I got
00:04.25thebootrooyes
00:05.05aukeit's planned for 1.2
00:05.12thebootroo2bad
00:05.46aukeanything else I can help you with?
00:06.21thebootrooone thing thaht i woudl have loved to see in meego browser (which is fennec, i don't like it very much but so..)  is the swirling zoom, like in maemo 5
00:07.15thebootrooand i really wonder why they keep using a such browser, when its so easy to develop a qt one since QtWebkit is well integrated
00:07.40thebootrooi dont like gtk, nor gecko
00:07.43aukeI think there are plans to do something like that
00:07.57thebootroodo what ?
00:08.11aukeswitch to a different browser engine
00:08.58thebootroothey can drop the complete browser cause ui toolkit is wrong too (they have to overlay the ux to get integrated - far from perfect - in meego UX)
00:09.29thebootrooi think a full libMeeGoTouch browser would be well, and quite quick to develop
00:10.01TSCHAKeee2thebootroo: do it
00:10.07thebootrooi've myself developped a couple of programs in qt and this is very quick
00:10.14aukeyup
00:10.21thebootrooTSCHAKeee2: sry i already have a big project on my shoulder
00:10.32aukewhat project is that?
00:10.39thebootrooModernOS
00:10.52aukewill it help MeeGo?
00:11.02thebootroonot specially
00:11.14TSCHAKeee2amazing how many ppl think they can make a linux distribution
00:11.15thebootroothe project is very anterior to meegi
00:11.17TSCHAKeee2or a whole new OS
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00:11.34thebootrooTSCHAKeee2: yes I can because I want
00:12.10thebootrooits not yet another distro, its a deeply rethinked linux kernel and qt based OS for noobs
00:12.12thebootroohttp://modern-os.projects.servhome.org/news-item?id=77
00:12.12TSCHAKeee2has been working on a massive whole house smart home platform for almost a decade, and still has 20 years of work left to do.
00:12.31thebootroomy website is in french but screenies are in english
00:12.50thebootrooi've for example implemented the Maemo 5 switcher in and it's all qt
00:14.21thebootrooyou may find a taste of moblin / meego netbook, but don't get wrong, i had the idea for my project since 6 years, so before the first moblin version
00:15.45aukeno worries
00:15.59aukealright, I'm packing up
00:16.02aukelater folks
00:16.22thebootroook bb
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04:31.20basilarchiahas anyone here ever tried to turn the emgd driver for the tunnel creek into a raw framebuffer driver (as in /dev/fb0)?
04:32.17basilarchiait looks like it might be doable. (the driver is here: http://gitorious.org/~xinyunliu/meego-os-base/xylius-kernel-source)
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09:50.50timeless_mbphttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=590683 crashes Firefox with gcc 4.5 because gcc 4.5 is broken
09:50.52timeless_mbploves gcc
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12:08.03djszapidoes anybody know this 'package manager' named package manager for meego ?
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13:38.37Stskeepslo wazd
13:39.07sivanghey Stskeeps
13:39.13Stskeepsafternoon sivang
13:39.49sivangare there any options for emulation/simulation SDK for meego for people without VT?
13:40.00sivanglike how scratchbox runs on my LG T380 uv
13:40.03sivang:)
13:40.05Stskeepsqemu n900 should come at some point
13:40.16sivangand in the meanwhile there's the netbook ?
13:40.20sivangqemu
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14:03.06wazdStskeeps: heya :)
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14:16.16Stskeepsmorning qgil
14:16.30qgilbrings to wiki.meego.com the table-art developed at wiki.maemo.org e.g. http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_08 :)
14:16.43qgilhi there Stskeeps
14:17.23qgilis working on http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/Meego.com_1.1_update now
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14:18.27RST38hqgil: BORDER=1 =)
14:18.49sivangqgil: took me a while to respond to your last note re: cross symbian/meego through qt. Been a bit ill and got tied up with work.
14:18.51Stskeepsqgil: can maybe tie into http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1/1.1.0.0 as well
14:18.53qgilRST38h: :)  just gimme some time
14:19.31sivanghttp://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1/1.1.0.0#Planned_bugfixes_2
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14:19.47sivangnice, we jsut needt o hae bug there, this way people could ask to work on any of them
14:19.48Stskeepssivang: picked up straight from bugzilla
14:19.57Stskeeps(target build)
14:19.57sivangStskeeps: who integrated?
14:20.26qgilStskeeps: interesting page. Is it all about the final-final 1.1 release?
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14:20.44Stskeepsqgil: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1 - each weekly has 'details'
14:20.56qgilI know that one
14:21.05Stskeeps1.1.0.0 is one of those
14:21.19qgilwhat I need to do is the To-Do of the final release
14:21.25sivangwhy oh why doesn't the wiki take me to the page I was reading before I logged in :)
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14:21.35sivangStskeeps: trying to see what sort of markup you used there for extracting the bugs :-p
14:21.41Stskeepssivang: ah
14:22.12qgilStskeeps: I'll continue with that table in the meego.com subpage and then we'll see
14:22.34Stskeepsqgil: yeah, the release pages aren't really in use either, just thought i'd note that it exists too :)
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14:26.08sivangStskeeps: nice, so mediawiki runs a bugzilla query
14:26.18Stskeepsyeah
14:26.20Stskeepsvery useful
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14:26.49sivangand futturezilla is like Launchpad's blueprints system?
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14:49.32djszapi_hey, how can I install git in scratchbox ?
14:49.42djszapi_apt-cache search git does not return any relevant package.
14:50.44djszapi_deb http://scratchbox.org/debian stable main
14:50.44djszapi_deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./
14:50.53djszapi_I have just tried those lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list
14:50.58Stskeepsthis is meego, we don't have scratchbox
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14:52.43djszapi_y, but someone can answer it though
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14:53.16Stskeepsdo you ask the price of bacon in a vegetarian irc channel?
14:53.17Stskeeps:P
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14:54.07djszapi_I do not think it is such a matter.
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14:59.01qgilmuch better now  :)  http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Marketing/Meego.com_1.1_update
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15:07.01Stskeepsmorn DawnFoster - feeling better today?
15:07.52DawnFosterStskeeps: still trying to decide, but not really much better :)
15:07.56DawnFosterthanks for asking
15:08.08DawnFostermigraines take a few days to recover from
15:08.16Stskeeps:nod:
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15:10.12JaffaDawnFoster: Tell me about it - still feeling shitty from being in bed all day yesterday.
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15:11.18DawnFosterjaffa: yeah, I spent al day yesterday laying down - still dizzy and nauseous today. Trying to work a little, but not sure how long I can make it
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15:11.29DawnFosterjaffa: hope you're starting to feel better
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15:23.56SaviqDawnFoster: hi, any news? should I have received something after your last meeting?
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15:25.17DawnFostersaviq: our email to you bounced - let me send you a pm.
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17:10.33fiferboyGAN900: GeneralAntilles: ping?
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17:26.02GAN900fiferboy, pong?
17:26.36fiferboyGAN900: Did you catch Halladay's performance?
17:27.05GAN900fiferboy, nope.
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19:19.17Stskeepshi
19:19.21vasily_pupkinis there any port of meego with native 2.6.22 n810 kernel?
19:19.34vasily_pupkinmay be "for" :]
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19:19.41Stskeepsvasily_pupkin: nop, just .35
19:19.45vasily_pupkineh
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19:19.50vasily_pupkinwifi works?
19:20.08Stskeepsdidn't test recently
19:20.10Stskeepsp54spi
19:20.34vasily_pupkinhm
19:20.49ScottishDuckis 1.2 sticking with .35
19:21.00ScottishDuckor migrating to .36/7
19:21.08vasily_pupkinand how powersaving works?
19:21.16Stskeepsbadly
19:22.14crismonHi channel :) I have a question. If is possible to install Smeegol to eeepc900?
19:22.27crismoni've tried liveusb but i con't find the install option
19:23.14sjokkisDawnFoster: got a question for you if you're around
19:23.22Stskeepscrismon: probably a good question for #opensuse-moblin
19:23.36crismonStskeeps: thank you
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20:52.36Pillumhey guys
20:53.02Pillumwhats the difference between core-n900 and handset-n900 images?
20:54.21Robot101handset has the handset user experience, I guess
20:54.29Pillumwhat means?
20:56.08Pillumhandset has alot more packages i see
20:56.38Pillummost of them are for messaging and calling
20:57.52thebootroocore means not user interface, just common base of all editions
20:58.20aukecore is used for validation purposes
20:58.23thebootroothen plug on the ux you want (handset, tablet, netbook , ivi, desktop...)
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20:58.28aukeit's not meant for used consumption
20:58.35aukes/used/user
20:58.42Pillumtheres a desktop meego?
20:58.48aukenetbook
20:58.51thebootroowith Core you can get only X and a terminal
20:58.56thebootrooPillum: not yet
20:59.05thebootrooPillum: but that's possible
20:59.10Pillumthebootroo: but its planned?
20:59.10Pillumah
20:59.10aukeactually, there's more than just X and a terminal in Core
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20:59.20thebootrooMeeGo is meant to but modular
20:59.32thebootrooauke: i meant in terms of UI
20:59.40aukethere's no desktop UX planned, the netbook UX will work on desktop just fine
20:59.44thebootrooi know core embeds Qt4.7, open ssh ...
20:59.48FunkyPenguincould someone advise on where in panel-web does it call chromium-browser?
20:59.49aukeauke: parts of the handset UI are in Core
21:00.11aukeer, that was meant for thebootroo
21:00.31thebootrooauke: just the meego touch framework and its example, but no handset APPlication
21:01.05thebootroook guys
21:01.09thebootrooi have to leave
21:01.21thebootroobb
21:01.33aukecorrect, hence, more than just a terminal.
21:02.24thebootrooauke:  user will get no launcher at boot an see just a term to run manually some examples app
21:02.45thebootrooso for beginner user,  you got 'just' a term
21:03.04thebootroook this time i go
21:03.10thebootroobye all
21:03.28aukeas I said... -core is not for user consumption
21:03.50aukewhat defines core has nothing to do with what the startup UI is...
21:12.17CosmoHillhey auke
21:12.29CosmoHillI've just finished coding my chain hashing homework :)
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21:19.02aukeLOL
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21:20.20CosmoHillif I'm honest, that wasn't the response I was expecting
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21:21.13aukesorry, I'm easily amused... procrastinating about making a ppt :/
21:24.48CosmoHillI hope it works better than my lecturer's, his come out weird on everyone's laptop
21:26.40CosmoHillauke: wanna see my code, might take up a minite of two :)
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21:28.52CosmoHillhttp://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/16340
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22:18.05nanahello 8-)
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22:44.43CosmoHillnight night
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