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| 04:59.57 | Stskeeps | morn dirkhh |
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| 05:31.37 | Stskeeps | REMINDER: N900 hardware adaptation team meeting in 30 minutes in #meego-meeting, anyone's free to join and participate. Agenda at http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Meetings#Next_meeting |
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| 05:55.44 | Stskeeps | REMINDER: N900 hardware adaptation team meeting in 5 minutes in #meego-meeting, anyone's free to join and participate. Agenda at http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Meetings#Next_meeting |
| 05:56.09 | thiago_home | morn |
| 05:56.39 | Stskeeps | morn thiago |
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| 06:34.22 | MmadA | dl9pf: I have image generated from git, it looks fine now. :) |
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| 06:35.27 | shazkhan | the sdk and xephyr are still buggy? |
| 06:35.53 | shazkhan | by the way I need to know how we can get a custom kernel into this chroot sdk |
| 06:35.59 | shazkhan | any ideas? |
| 06:36.23 | thiago_home | kernel into chroot? |
| 06:36.25 | shazkhan | the git stuff has only some files and patches and a defconfig for a few devices |
| 06:36.50 | shazkhan | I want to build my custom kernel ... not sure how to explain? |
| 06:37.06 | shazkhan | Mostly I use toolchains |
| 06:37.09 | thiago_home | why do you need a chroot to build a kernel? |
| 06:37.21 | thiago_home | use any toolchain that can compile your kernel |
| 06:37.33 | shazkhan | and then copy it into the sdk? |
| 06:37.43 | thiago_home | you don't need a kernel in an SDK |
| 06:37.52 | thiago_home | copy it to the device and make it boot that kernel |
| 06:38.06 | shazkhan | I want to boot the meego platform with my custom built kernel |
| 06:38.21 | shazkhan | on the emulator/xephyr |
| 06:38.33 | thiago_home | xephyr doesn't boot a kernel |
| 06:39.41 | shazkhan | huh ...? |
| 06:39.55 | thiago_home | xephyr doesn't boot a kernel |
| 06:40.02 | thiago_home | it's running the apps on your own computer |
| 06:40.04 | shazkhan | qemu then? |
| 06:40.15 | thiago_home | that would use a kernel |
| 06:40.23 | thiago_home | copy it to the image that qemu boots to |
| 06:40.26 | shazkhan | I have an n800 as well but at home ... have to hide it from my wife ;p |
| 06:40.41 | zhx | when I ifup wlan0 on meego on N900, dmesg with something like: deauthenticating by local choice (reason=3) |
| 06:41.48 | shazkhan | thiago_home: So the rootfs will be the sdk stuff copied to an image? |
| 06:42.02 | shazkhan | or are there images available to download |
| 06:42.16 | thiago_home | shazkhan: there are images available for download |
| 06:42.43 | shazkhan | for qemu ... versatilepb |
| 06:42.50 | shazkhan | or generic |
| 06:43.11 | shazkhan | generic arm |
| 06:43.37 | shazkhan | or use over x86 .... |
| 06:43.48 | shazkhan | emulation |
| 06:44.58 | shazkhan | thiago_home: How can we make our own custom image for any architecture? Any support for openEmbedded? |
| 06:45.16 | thiago_home | openembedded is completely unrelated |
| 06:45.16 | shazkhan | mean rootfs |
| 06:45.44 | shazkhan | so how can I make my own custom rootfs |
| 06:45.59 | thiago_home | try mic |
| 06:46.11 | shazkhan | whats that? |
| 06:46.26 | thiago_home | a tool |
| 06:46.38 | shazkhan | Let me google it |
| 06:47.55 | shazkhan | I am not very happy with how these maemo moblin tools work ... are'nt there any other alternatives? |
| 06:48.07 | thiago_home | yes, you can write your own |
| 06:48.19 | shazkhan | lol |
| 06:48.46 | thiago_home | if you don't like it, do better |
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| 06:49.08 | shazkhan | A better alternative could be to use a default image and customize it by altering it on a loop device |
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| 06:49.25 | shazkhan | how about openembedded and bitbake? |
| 06:49.35 | thiago_home | they are unrelated and unsupported |
| 06:49.45 | thiago_home | but if they work for you, it's your choice to use them |
| 06:49.47 | shazkhan | can we do better by supporting it |
| 06:50.02 | thiago_home | I can't say, because I don't know much about them |
| 06:50.10 | shazkhan | I can explain ... |
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| 06:51.03 | thiago_home | and I can't understand |
| 06:51.27 | shazkhan | http://www.openembedded.org/ and http://bitbake.berlios.de/ |
| 06:51.38 | thiago_home | won't open the link |
| 06:51.41 | zhx | Anyone use wifi on N900 with Meego? |
| 06:52.01 | shazkhan | thiago_home: I can help if you let me have a remote connection or desktop session |
| 06:52.04 | Stskeeps | zhx: jump in #meego-arm after our meeting |
| 06:52.49 | thiago_home | shazkhan: I don't need help |
| 06:53.05 | shazkhan | thiago_home: I need help |
| 06:53.12 | zhx | thanks |
| 06:53.19 | thiago_home | shazkhan: and I don't know how to help you |
| 06:53.37 | thiago_home | I'm giving you generic advice because that's what I can do |
| 06:53.46 | thiago_home | I've told you of the tools that exist |
| 06:53.50 | shazkhan | Ok I am having tea then I will consider this matter if you want me to |
| 06:54.00 | thiago_home | if you can't make them work, ask specific questions about the problems you had |
| 06:54.06 | thiago_home | if you don't like them, then make them better |
| 06:54.16 | thiago_home | also try posting to the mailing lists |
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| 06:55.09 | shazkhan | thanks thiago_home ... sorry for the inconvenience and some fun |
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| 07:19.25 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 07:21.14 | Termana | Good morning Jaffa |
| 07:21.34 | slaine | morning all |
| 07:21.34 | slaine | \ |
| 07:21.43 | Termana | Good morning slaine |
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| 08:28.21 | Tina- | why is there no irc client on meego installed? |
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| 08:30.30 | Tina- | anyway to install irssi? |
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| 08:31.46 | Tina- | why is there no ext4 support? |
| 08:32.32 | Tina- | can i find / get the kernel .config file so i can build ext4 support ? |
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| 08:43.53 | linuxplatform | Tina: you can use Empathy for IRC |
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| 08:51.47 | Tina- | and what about ext4 missing |
| 08:52.32 | Tina- | i would like to access my data |
| 08:52.43 | Stskeeps | weird it's missing, sure it's not just a module? |
| 08:54.27 | Tina- | :| i'm using ext4 quite long as default fs on all my drives |
| 08:54.49 | Tina- | so i miss it quite hard atm |
| 08:55.47 | Tina- | is it hard to setup a working toolchain on meego , like i would lik eto |
| 08:55.54 | Tina- | compile xbmc |
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| 08:57.32 | thiago | compiling for ARM or for x86? or both? |
| 08:57.43 | Tina- | x86 |
| 08:57.56 | thiago | any gcc with the appropriate compiler options should do |
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| 09:04.12 | Tina- | is it possible to rebuilt the shell + menu ontop of an other os (gentoo) |
| 09:04.53 | thiago | they're just linux apps, so yes |
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| 09:05.58 | Tina- | so where i find those source code? |
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| 09:23.58 | sivang | morning |
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| 09:24.28 | sivang | I seem to fail to understand what Core Test Suite it. (in meego context) Are there any quality people around to explain? |
| 09:24.38 | sivang | The wiki pages do not do a good work explaining it. |
| 09:24.42 | sivang | and it's positioning. |
| 09:25.10 | sivang | thiago: hey dude, maybe you can help me understand ? |
| 09:25.26 | thiago | sivang: no, I don't think I can |
| 09:25.33 | thiago | I have never heard of Core Test Suite |
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| 09:43.16 | megabast | hi all |
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| 09:44.37 | megabast | do you know how Meego configure metacity to avoid to display applications une the menu bar? |
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| 09:44.59 | slaine | hey megabast |
| 09:45.05 | slaine | not sure I follow the question |
| 09:45.06 | megabast | hello slaine :) |
| 09:45.21 | megabast | I ll try to explain |
| 09:46.21 | megabast | when you maximize a application like mozilla or your terminal, the top of your application will not be at top of the screen but just under the panel bar |
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| 09:46.56 | megabast | so, a part of the application won't be hide by the panel bar |
| 09:47.01 | Tumi_ | sivang: where you see Core Test Suite? |
| 09:47.05 | megabast | do you know what I mean |
| 09:47.33 | sivang | Tumi_: so far, on the wiki and the -dev/-community threads. |
| 09:47.37 | slaine | megabast: how are you maximizing your window when there's no window manager decoration to do that ? |
| 09:48.17 | Tumi_ | oh been too busy to read my meego-mail :/ |
| 09:48.21 | Tumi_ | I'll check that one |
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| 09:49.03 | sivang | Tumi_: sure. |
| 09:49.11 | sivang | Tumi_: I'm trying to fetch the exact wiki page, hold on |
| 09:49.31 | Tumi_ | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Core_Test_Suites_Development_Guidelines |
| 09:49.37 | megabast | in moblin you could maximize, the maximize button was just hide bt moblin theme |
| 09:49.37 | Tumi_ | did you check that? |
| 09:49.47 | megabast | hold on I ll try on meego |
| 09:49.54 | slaine | megabast: also, there's a difference between maximimized and fullscreen |
| 09:50.06 | slaine | fullscreen will hide the meego panel |
| 09:50.38 | slaine | maximized should just use available screen real-estate. |
| 09:50.44 | megabast | humm I see |
| 09:50.57 | sivang | Tumi_: yes, so still, what does CTS really mean? is that like a core set of tests *every* app has to pass before it's accepted into the repository? |
| 09:51.12 | sivang | Tumi_: we have to explain the term. |
| 09:51.25 | slaine | mutter-moblin decides how windows are shown in this instance, it hooks into the mutter window manger commands and has callbacks for maximized, minimized etc. |
| 09:51.36 | megabast | ok I see |
| 09:52.07 | megabast | but I suppose it's possible that there is a task bar with a specified size? |
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| 09:52.38 | megabast | so when you will full screen the meego panel won't be hide |
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| 09:53.21 | megabast | like you would have a taskbar on your gnome desktop |
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| 09:55.55 | slaine | megabast: if I recall correctly, the panel will stay onscreen for certain types of large screen sizes. I know it doesn't autohide on my 1280x800 unit here. |
| 09:56.08 | slaine | I didn't try to maximize any windows though |
| 09:56.21 | Tumi_ | sivang: not sure what this really mean. I work for core system testing and that's another story |
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| 09:56.42 | Tumi_ | but we have similar things |
| 09:57.34 | megabast | ok |
| 09:58.04 | sivang | Tumi_: what is core system? :) |
| 09:58.05 | balor | How can I tell meego that it's default user (on startup) should be Foo, not Bar? |
| 09:58.25 | sivang | Tumi_: what is included under its umbrella ? |
| 09:58.59 | slaine | hey balor |
| 09:59.20 | balor | slaine: How's tricks? |
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| 10:00.16 | slaine | iirc, you need to change the /etc/sysconfig/uxlaunch::user=Bar to user=Foo |
| 10:00.27 | slaine | balor: not bad, busy as hell, which is good me thinks |
| 10:01.35 | Tumi_ | sivang: for us it means the software platform under the UX layer |
| 10:01.51 | Tumi_ | meanin no UI testing |
| 10:02.19 | Tumi_ | like it seems to be the same in there http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Core_Test_Suites_Packaging_draft |
| 10:02.40 | Tumi_ | all of that belong to functionality under the UI |
| 10:03.21 | sivang | Tumi_: ah okay, noted. So CTS is the community/open source equivalent for that? I don't want to send another mail to the list since everybody seem to know what it really means, I don't want to turn out stupid :) |
| 10:03.45 | sivang | Tumi_: But I would like to know the exact scope of CTS and what it entails or mandates. |
| 10:03.49 | Tumi_ | the tests.xml they are talking about in the mails is the format for specifying what cases a particular test package has and how to execute those, and there is a tool that can run tests automatically provided this xml |
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| 10:04.40 | Tumi_ | sivang: looks like that. actually our work should become opensource (hopefully soon) |
| 10:05.16 | Tumi_ | this might be something that managers have agreed and we will do in the future =) |
| 10:05.28 | Tumi_ | that's why I am also interested to know what this all is |
| 10:06.42 | Tumi_ | sivang: I really am not sure about the CTS scope, just guessing =) |
| 10:07.37 | zaheerm | megabast, meego doesn't use metacity, it uses mutter |
| 10:08.30 | sivang | Tumi_: okay, let's hope some clarifications will come out soon +) |
| 10:08.35 | megabast | zaheerm: mutter = metacity + clutter no? |
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| 10:08.45 | sivang | Tumi_: If not I will ask on the ML in a couple of days, |
| 10:09.20 | zaheerm | megabast, it is a fork of metacity |
| 10:09.54 | megabast | ok |
| 10:10.43 | Tumi_ | sivang: obviously you have already been active in email discussions about the xml =) |
| 10:11.30 | Tumi_ | sivang: could you keep me updated if/when you find out? I'd appreciate a lot |
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| 10:21.20 | sivang | Tumi_: sure thing, just mail me to my priv addres as a reminder :) |
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| 10:27.28 | FunkyPenguin | if i keep getting "illegal instruction" when i try to run something could that be down to an ssse3 compilation issue? |
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| 10:28.44 | thiago | FunkyPenguin: what is the instruction that fails? |
| 10:29.12 | FunkyPenguin | well thats the fun part ;) |
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| 10:29.59 | FunkyPenguin | i cant get evolution, zypper, yum, banshee and a few more apps |
| 10:30.19 | FunkyPenguin | all i get is "Illegal Instruction (core dump) |
| 10:30.24 | thiago | from yum? |
| 10:30.47 | FunkyPenguin | reason i ask if it is ssse3 related is because im running on an eeepc701 so celeron based |
| 10:30.55 | thiago | yes, it could be |
| 10:30.59 | thiago | but what is the instruction that fails? |
| 10:31.13 | FunkyPenguin | it doesnt say |
| 10:31.30 | thiago | gdb doesn't say? |
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| 10:33.00 | FunkyPenguin | ah looks like libsqlite3.so.0 gave a SIGILL |
| 10:33.19 | thiago | right, but what is the instruction? |
| 10:33.21 | thiago | x/i $pc |
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| 10:35.49 | FunkyPenguin | is "0x02b72985 in ?? ()" what you mean? |
| 10:35.57 | FunkyPenguin | thiago, sorry, you've lost me somewhat - i ran 'gdb evolution' then 'start', then that's what i got |
| 10:36.06 | thiago | now type: x/i $pc |
| 10:37.00 | FunkyPenguin | ah ok - 0x2b72985: fisttpll (%esi) |
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| 10:37.47 | thiago | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE3 - FISTTP is a new instruction |
| 10:39.57 | MmadA | Where i can find *.ks file for genereting image for ARM? |
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| 10:41.25 | FunkyPenguin | thiago, ok thanks for the confirmation - i'll get back to trying to package the UX then :) |
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| 11:29.27 | dl9pf | MmadA: good ! you need a .ks for ARM ? look in the download folders for n900 or in the wiki for beagleboard |
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| 11:55.36 | MmadA | dl9pf: Hi! It works because I did mistake and I generated image for intel. ;) |
| 11:56.57 | MmadA | dl9pf: I got some image, but without development tools (rpmbuild and so one). |
| 11:57.23 | dl9pf | you can install on the target then |
| 11:57.31 | MmadA | I'm trying to install using yum but repo (http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/arm/os/repodata/) is not available (404). |
| 11:57.37 | dl9pf | or do you meen chroot |
| 11:57.52 | dl9pf | url's changed, you need to adapt |
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| 12:00.08 | MmadA | dl9pf: Yes, I'm trying to do it but dont see it anywhere... |
| 12:02.06 | MmadA | And also here http://wiki.meego.com/Developing_in_a_Meego_Environment links to *ks files are dead. |
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| 12:03.09 | MmadA | Wrong, not links but links to repo in this ks files. |
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| 12:05.24 | Tina- | i tried to rebuild the kernel no luk so far , get some make error /bin/sh cmd not found |
| 12:06.29 | Tina- | any kernel how to? i need anything else then make? |
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| 12:22.04 | FunkyPenguin | dl9pf, do you want to do build for a geeko based build on obs? |
| 12:22.28 | FunkyPenguin | there is a top level name space for MeeGo and im doing the netbook builds now |
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| 12:24.06 | Tina- | what is the bootloader used ? |
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| 12:29.15 | Tumi_ | should there be aac gstreamer codec on the MeeGo image? |
| 12:29.30 | Stskeeps | slaine: check out http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Release_Creation |
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| 12:31.33 | MmadA | Maybe some one know what is correct repo (in place of http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/trunk/repo/arm/os/)? I really can't find it... |
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| 12:39.18 | slaine | Stskeeps: cheers, that's exactly what I was looking for |
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| 12:40.01 | Tina- | anyone build a costum kernel for meego? |
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| 12:40.43 | Tina- | how to load it aka what boot loader i need to edit? |
| 12:42.41 | CosmoHill | iirc meego uses syslinux |
| 12:42.54 | CosmoHill | you'd need to find the configuration file for it and replace the kernel to load |
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| 12:46.28 | CosmoHill | i'm sure it can bedone |
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| 13:35.33 | andybleaden | Hi All. Any of you successfully managed to get a screen capture video programme working in moblin or meego |
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| 14:14.02 | dneary | DawnFoster, I had a question in relation to discussions last night at the TSG meeting - hope you might be able to answer it. Are you there? |
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| 17:57.38 | shazkhan | asac: what is common in MeeGo and Linaro? |
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| 18:45.21 | Stskeeps | i'm going to have to grab my old cryptography book to recall some of the terms in the security thread :) |
| 18:46.24 | shazkhan | :) |
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| 18:47.26 | shazkhan | don't tell them Stskeeps ... my crypto sucks as well! |
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| 18:57.14 | DawnFoster | too bad we aren't paying attention :) |
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| 19:08.00 | shazkhan | DawnFoster: :( |
| 19:08.17 | shazkhan | where is your attention ... this place is so quite ;) |
| 19:08.42 | DawnFoster | it's always quiet this time of the day. |
| 19:09.08 | DawnFoster | I use this time to work on other things (metrics, etc.) |
| 19:10.16 | Stskeeps | how are they coming along? looking forward to seeing them :) |
| 19:10.47 | DawnFoster | slowly :( I've been swamped with netbook stuff and haven't had time to finish them, |
| 19:10.59 | DawnFoster | everything is way up so far, though :) |
| 19:11.11 | Stskeeps | yeah, that's my personal perception of things too |
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| 19:17.24 | ceolin | hi guys I'm trying to install a rpm, but iI always receive this message: "The reuqest failed. More details are available in the detailed report." |
| 19:17.37 | ceolin | whats the problem ? |
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| 19:18.58 | shazkhan | good night |
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| 19:42.19 | Stskeeps | there's really an impressive lot of open meego positions |
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| 19:44.00 | ceolin | someone is having the same problem to install rpm packages through the ui ? |
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| 19:48.43 | DawnFoster | ceolin: which rpm packages have you tried? |
| 19:48.55 | DawnFoster | I had good luck installing several. |
| 19:49.16 | DawnFoster | Maybe try something we know to work - like Abobe Air / Firefox? |
| 19:49.37 | ceolin | DawnFoster: simple packages (to test) from rpm source code |
| 19:49.40 | DawnFoster | also, what system are you using? (processor, graphics card, etc. |
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| 19:50.56 | ceolin | DawnFoster: a standard netbook, Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz |
| 19:51.10 | ceolin | DawnFoster: graphics Intel ... |
| 19:51.17 | pupnik | meego works on gma4500 gpu? wikinis missing a positive-list |
| 19:51.41 | n9udl | is there a way to save settings on the live USB version? |
| 19:51.53 | n9udl | looks sweet... |
| 19:53.29 | DawnFoster | ceolin: can you try installing the firefox rpm to see of you get the same error? |
| 19:53.38 | DawnFoster | just trying to narrow it down a little |
| 19:53.38 | ceolin | DawnFoster: I tried to install using gpk_install_local_file, but I have no sucess |
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| 19:54.19 | ceolin | DawnFoster: I'll, but just to be clear, using rpm (command line) works well |
| 19:54.32 | DawnFoster | ah |
| 19:55.27 | ceolin | DawnFoster: but I need use something graphic |
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| 19:56.44 | CosmoHill | hey DawnFoster |
| 19:58.08 | DawnFoster | hey CosmoHill |
| 19:58.17 | CosmoHill | can I pm you for a second? |
| 19:58.21 | DawnFoster | sure |
| 19:58.52 | DawnFoster | ceolin: that might be a better question for the forum - I also assume you already searched there for your answer? |
| 20:00.40 | ceolin | DawnFoster: yep |
| 20:01.17 | DawnFoster | the forum would give you some more space to post details & I'll try to make sure someone answers it :) |
| 20:02.02 | ceolin | DawnFoster: thank you :) |
| 20:02.41 | Stskeeps | DawnFoster: is there a plan for a sort of support organisation or is the hope to have community-run support organisation? |
| 20:02.52 | DawnFoster | sorry I wasn't more help :) I installed a bunch of RPMs over the weekend with a mix of command line / gui and never ran into issues, so I'm not much help |
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| 20:03.25 | Stskeeps | .. actually, my question doesn't make sense as meego -is- community ;) |
| 20:03.26 | DawnFoster | stskeeps: the idea is that companies who productize it will need to support their products. |
| 20:03.28 | Stskeeps | :nod: |
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| 20:03.44 | DawnFoster | and like you said, the community will support the community releases :) |
| 20:03.52 | Stskeeps | to some extent, the netbook images are being 'used' as they're productized though |
| 20:04.04 | ceolin | DawnFoster: no problem |
| 20:04.27 | DawnFoster | Stskeeps: true - I think that when products are out in the market that people can buy, it might get easier |
| 20:04.32 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 20:04.40 | DawnFoster | but yeah, people are treating it like a product that should run on anything |
| 20:04.53 | Stskeeps | linpus's variants look like something i might even consider for a netbook |
| 20:04.56 | DawnFoster | in reality it's more of a reference platform for companies to build on top of |
| 20:05.05 | DawnFoster | or developers to build on |
| 20:05.12 | Stskeeps | :nod: |
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| 20:06.17 | TSCHAKeee2 | BUT WHYYY WON'T MEEGO RUN ON MY 4 YEAR OLD LAPTOP?! IT'S LINUX! |
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| 20:06.21 | TSCHAKeee2 | runs!!! |
| 20:06.23 | TSCHAKeee2 | ;) |
| 20:06.38 | Stskeeps | sometimes it feels strictly like a reference platform but in some marketing aspects it sounds more like a product |
| 20:06.51 | Stskeeps | no doubt it's interesting still though |
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| 20:07.46 | CosmoHill | pst, TSCHAKeee2, try init 3 |
| 20:07.56 | TSCHAKeee2 | hahaha |
| 20:08.11 | DawnFoster | well, we don't have much control over those marketing types |
| 20:08.21 | TSCHAKeee2 | yeah.... |
| 20:08.33 | TSCHAKeee2 | that seems a universal constant, everywhere... |
| 20:08.35 | DawnFoster | they can make a demo sound like a finished product, too :) |
| 20:08.38 | thiago_home | thinks it's easier to control marketing types than developer types |
| 20:08.38 | Stskeeps | but i guess the hype helps to generate contributors |
| 20:09.04 | DawnFoster | On the other hand, we've been getting a ton of testing and finding all kinds of new bugs |
| 20:09.27 | TSCHAKeee2 | i'm curious as to the sheer amount of volume the automatic bug report stuff generates |
| 20:09.34 | DawnFoster | *thinks it's easier to understand the developer types than the marketing types* :) |
| 20:09.57 | DawnFoster | TSCHAKeee2 the crash reporter? |
| 20:09.59 | TSCHAKeee2 | yes |
| 20:10.35 | TSCHAKeee2 | until i turned off bluetooth, the system was spewing kernel oops'es quite regularly to the crash reporter |
| 20:10.54 | TSCHAKeee2 | not to mention the regular crashes of the web tab |
| 20:11.00 | TSCHAKeee2 | which i've stopped using for now |
| 20:11.14 | DawnFoster | yeah, it's pretty interesting - and I like the little guy that's seeing stars: http://crashdb.meego.com/ |
| 20:11.54 | TSCHAKeee2 | heheh I can imagine the reproducing steps |
| 20:12.12 | Stskeeps | one thing i noticed is that noone speaks of for example HTC Android, they call it android, while the pattern is SuSE MeeGo, Nokia MeeGo, etc |
| 20:12.12 | TSCHAKeee2 | step 1: smash mallet into forehead |
| 20:12.32 | TSCHAKeee2 | step 2: lick a bunch of microdots |
| 20:12.36 | TSCHAKeee2 | step 3: use meego |
| 20:12.52 | CosmoHill | TSCHAKeee2: you know you're in trouble when the error reporting system crashes |
| 20:13.32 | TSCHAKeee2 | those are some wonderful stats |
| 20:13.36 | TSCHAKeee2 | disturbing |
| 20:13.40 | TSCHAKeee2 | but wonderful |
| 20:14.19 | Stskeeps | ah, i think i have a new avatar for talk.maemo.org |
| 20:14.31 | TSCHAKeee2 | oh yeah, and telepathy-butterfly is a bad boy too |
| 20:14.39 | DawnFoster | TSCHAKeee2 - definitely gives an idea of where we should be spending time on bug fixes :) |
| 20:14.46 | TSCHAKeee2 | indeed |
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| 20:23.47 | DawnFoster | OK, I'm out of here for a while - I'm getting ready to run a 5k at work :) |
| 20:24.00 | CosmoHill | cool |
| 20:24.04 | DawnFoster | if I don't come back in a couple hours assume I'm dead :) |
| 20:24.07 | thiago_home | is the office that big? :-) |
| 20:24.14 | Stskeeps | good luck! |
| 20:24.18 | DawnFoster | or that I tripped and hurt myself :) |
| 20:24.19 | DawnFoster | thanks! |
| 20:24.35 | CosmoHill | thiago_home: big campus? |
| 20:24.37 | thiago_home | the Qt team had a "Train once. Run everywhere" T-shirt |
| 20:24.45 | DawnFoster | thiago_home: almost! a 5k is 2 laps around the sidewalk around the campus |
| 20:24.56 | DawnFoster | so yes, it's that big :) |
| 20:24.59 | CosmoHill | at one point they screwed up the printers at uni |
| 20:25.08 | CosmoHill | so I could print from the lab to a printer 50 miles away |
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| 20:25.42 | DawnFoster | the route (just double it) http://rnkpr.com/a6d4mr |
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| 21:53.32 | DawnFoster | and I'm back. |
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| 21:58.49 | CosmoHill | can I be front? |
| 21:58.51 | ge3 | hi everybody |
| 21:59.22 | DawnFoster | ha. I made it the whole 5k without walking and it didn't kill me |
| 22:00.04 | CosmoHill | DawnFoster: I went out for a bike ride yesterday and did almost 10km longer than I expected cos I took a wrong turn |
| 22:00.33 | DawnFoster | it's good for you - builds character :) |
| 22:00.40 | CosmoHill | I had GPS on my phone running and it says I did 70Km/h :o |
| 22:02.02 | ceolin | ls |
| 22:02.08 | ceolin | sorry :) |
| 22:02.45 | CosmoHill | I went from the riverside to the highest point in the county |
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| 22:17.49 | ge3 | hey i have some questions about meego system is there anybody that can answer ? :$ |
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| 22:20.06 | DawnFoster | ge3: what kinds of questions |
| 22:20.07 | DawnFoster | ? |
| 22:20.48 | ge3 | questions about meego update cycle, i read the wiki bvut im still a little confused |
| 22:22.23 | CosmoHill | "it's done when it's done" ? |
| 22:22.40 | DawnFoster | you read this page: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Release_Creation |
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| 22:23.31 | DawnFoster | the short answer is that we'll do big releases about every 6 months. Smaller weekly releases with bug fixes and nightly builds for developers |
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| 22:24.03 | ge3 | yes this is the page i read |
| 22:24.04 | DawnFoster | we're still in the process of getting out the first wave of 1.0 releases - Netbook was May 26 and Handset should be later this month |
| 22:24.30 | ge3 | oooh okay thanks for ur answer so next public update is in around 6 month |
| 22:24.43 | ge3 | unless u want to help by finding bugs or u are a dev |
| 22:24.57 | DawnFoster | we should have more details about the releases in the next couple of weeks as we further refine the process |
| 22:25.08 | DawnFoster | ge3 - yeah, that's about right |
| 22:26.19 | ge3 | i dont have programming skills but i like this project and i would like to invest a little bit |
| 22:27.18 | ge3 | can i install a second meego sysytem on antoher partition just for testing and bugs without conflicts or problems ? |
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| 22:32.45 | jperez26 | so...anyone got an idea when a viable test version of meego for n8x0 will be ready? |
| 22:33.09 | jperez26 | i'd love to get my hands on it for testing |
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| 22:36.39 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
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| 23:10.20 | CosmoHill | cyas |
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| 23:28.11 | hcl2 | is there any support to boot the usb image from a grub installation? i've booted puppy linux from grub into their syslinux based boot. my system can't to boot from usb, but grub can |
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| 23:45.32 | szymon_g | hi |
| 23:46.14 | hcl2 | okay, i changed CDLABEL to UUID and added the uuid of my stick |
| 23:46.29 | hcl2 | but, x is crashing over and over with ati and fbdev errors |
| 23:46.33 | szymon_g | anyone tried to install/run/use meego on Nokia n810 :? |
| 23:48.01 | jperez26 | it's not ready for the n8x0 |
| 23:48.11 | jperez26 | just gotta be patient |
| 23:48.49 | szymon_g | :| |
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| 23:56.21 | hcl2 | hmm, seems to only have i810 video drivers, not even fbdev or anything for x11 |
| 23:56.30 | hcl2 | good thing i didn't blow away my usb stick |