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17:07.59 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu is Second CSSU task force meeting started, please mute your mobile phones and be quiet during proceding to your seat. Thanks! |
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17:10.31 | merlin1991 | wtf where's everyone? |
17:10.52 | merlin1991 | we can discuss about nothing without mag :/ |
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17:12.03 | DocScrutinizer | probably he found a rocket fuel powered PSU and he tuned his spare fan so he vcan fly to the clouds now with his laptop |
17:12.33 | fw190 | lets hope so. eagerly waiting for cssu 17 |
17:13.06 | merlin1991 | well let's gather info, anything that could go into cssu 18 that isn't a patch? |
17:13.44 | merlin1991 | holds up a sign with http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP |
17:14.27 | DocScrutinizer | to shorten the boredom a bit for the rest of you: I fixed my fan with a proxxon mill by milling a small hole slightly off axis to the fan blade plastic and then "filled" the whole thing with good amount of silicone oil |
17:14.58 | merlin1991 | it's essentially an obexd upgrade that improves bluetooth handling of car-kits |
17:15.17 | merlin1991 | enables proper phonebook support a number of them |
17:15.24 | DocScrutinizer | CSSU-T18? |
17:15.45 | merlin1991 | yeah |
17:15.54 | DocScrutinizer | whitelist handling! |
17:16.04 | merlin1991 | is in current one but needs fixing |
17:16.24 | DocScrutinizer | editor, not function |
17:16.31 | merlin1991 | ah .D |
17:16.55 | merlin1991 | I tried around with the whitelist function and it kinda broke roatation in general :D |
17:17.32 | DocScrutinizer | there's that "CSSU Features" button in powerbutton-menu |
17:18.36 | merlin1991 | huh? |
17:18.49 | DocScrutinizer | it bitches on me all the time about "transitions.ini doesn't have all the expected options" and allows to "fix" (most likely actually break) or exit. |
17:19.10 | merlin1991 | "that" cssu features button does not come with cssu |
17:19.24 | merlin1991 | afaik it's the cssu tuner app that delivers it |
17:19.26 | DocScrutinizer | we should shanghai it |
17:19.58 | DocScrutinizer | I seem to recall once it worked and when it did it was nice |
17:20.00 | fw190 | shanghai? |
17:20.10 | DocScrutinizer | hijack, kidnap |
17:20.15 | fw190 | ;) |
17:20.22 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: I gotta facepalm |
17:20.35 | merlin1991 | that osso-product info -s is in the cssu mp already |
17:20.45 | merlin1991 | it sets to 1.3 all the time |
17:21.02 | DocScrutinizer | nope CSSU Tuner is in settings |
17:21.15 | merlin1991 | cssu tuner provides that too afaik |
17:21.20 | DocScrutinizer | and actually it's been that one that really works and doesn't look bad |
17:22.04 | DocScrutinizer | LOL |
17:22.19 | fw190 | cssu tuner isn't maintained anymore |
17:22.52 | DocScrutinizer | damn, so what we gonna do about that now? start mainaining it again, maybe? ;-) |
17:23.16 | fw190 | well Saturn is maintaining his app |
17:23.24 | DocScrutinizer | even I could maintain such a simple thing |
17:23.33 | merlin1991 | we should think about a proper applet for settings in cssu anyway |
17:23.43 | merlin1991 | makes no sense to depend on outside application |
17:23.45 | fw190 | I'm just saying nothing more |
17:23.59 | merlin1991 | maybe get Saturn on board |
17:24.15 | merlin1991 | fw190: what's Saturns app called? |
17:24.43 | DocScrutinizer | duh, it's a PITA! REALLY! |
17:25.21 | DocScrutinizer | CSSU Tuner // transitions tweaker // random other crap, I'm lost on where to look for what :-/ |
17:25.34 | fw190 | CSSU features |
17:25.58 | fw190 | that is Saturns app |
17:26.34 | DocScrutinizer | that is the one that bitches and never works here |
17:26.55 | fw190 | hmm it works for me since the beginning |
17:27.03 | DocScrutinizer | the one in power button menu |
17:27.13 | fw190 | yes |
17:27.15 | fw190 | that is the one |
17:27.26 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: compare your /usr/share/hildon_desktop/transisions.ini with /usr/share/hildon-desktop/tansistions.ini.dpkgsomething |
17:27.47 | merlin1991 | you probably find some more settings in the thp_tweaks section in the latter |
17:27.47 | DocScrutinizer | transitions.ini doesn't have all the expected options! fix? abort? |
17:28.05 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: we don't update the transistions.ini on upgrade |
17:28.16 | merlin1991 | so newly introduced options have to be included by hand / app |
17:28.26 | DocScrutinizer | sure |
17:28.42 | DocScrutinizer | just saying CSSU Features never really worked for me |
17:28.45 | merlin1991 | and I guess you did upgrade from cssu x to cssu y at some point |
17:28.54 | DocScrutinizer | yep |
17:29.11 | DocScrutinizer | and obviously this app did *not* |
17:29.45 | merlin1991 | eeh maybe the app did but your init didn't |
17:29.58 | merlin1991 | s/init/ini/ |
17:30.06 | DocScrutinizer | and I guess "not all the options" is just a nice way to say "not the set of options I could deal with" I.E. too many options |
17:30.31 | merlin1991 | fw190: are you on current cssu? |
17:30.40 | fw190 | yes |
17:30.50 | merlin1991 | does the features app work ? |
17:30.55 | merlin1991 | without warning? |
17:31.42 | fw190 | it only pops out: thr current configuration is shown and I can change anything |
17:32.14 | DocScrutinizer | no matter if it works or not, please get that crap out of my powerbutton menu and into settings where it belongs |
17:32.17 | DocScrutinizer | ;-) |
17:32.32 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: you can always uninstall ;) |
17:32.39 | fw190 | you can take it out from the power menu- there is an option to set it off |
17:32.45 | DocScrutinizer | won't move it to settings |
17:32.48 | fw190 | and it stays in the apps |
17:33.18 | DocScrutinizer | where's that option? |
17:33.46 | DocScrutinizer | in the settings page I can't reach due to "not all the expected options are there" ? |
17:34.48 | fw190 | when you launch the app it is in (don't now how to call it) menu- form the CSSU features configuration up on the screen |
17:34.48 | merlin1991 | just get rid of it then doc, it doesn't seem like you're going to use it anyway |
17:35.19 | merlin1991 | Sicelo: I've updated the testrepo with a new mp, should fix the version number |
17:36.10 | merlin1991 | okay lets get back ot, other suggestions for T18? |
17:36.35 | MohammadAG | Are we having a meeting this week |
17:36.44 | DocScrutinizer | YES SIR |
17:36.47 | DocScrutinizer | lol |
17:36.54 | DocScrutinizer | welcome MohammadAG |
17:37.13 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: we're having since 30 min :D |
17:37.24 | merlin1991 | or rather we're talking bs waiting for you :P |
17:37.32 | DocScrutinizer | hehehe |
17:38.20 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I've reached X-Fade today an he said he'll need to see about the update part |
17:38.23 | DocScrutinizer | "Alle Updates installiert" \o/ 666.6MB HARM updates |
17:38.38 | MohammadAG | that 666.6 is annoying |
17:38.48 | merlin1991 | also I need you to nod here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12497 |
17:38.48 | MohammadAG | so's today's date |
17:38.49 | povbot | Bug 12497: Maemo 5 Community SSU needs field to distinguish between stable and testing |
17:39.11 | DocScrutinizer | my friend married today, the fool |
17:39.30 | DocScrutinizer | obviousl ybecause of the date |
17:39.51 | merlin1991 | stupid skyrim ads with 11.11.11 were all over the place here |
17:39.57 | merlin1991 | but whatever back to cssu :D |
17:40.18 | DocScrutinizer | who's going to nod there, I already said "good call" when you posted it here :-) |
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17:40.37 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, I've heard of 10 marriages today |
17:40.48 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: nod there is needed for andrew |
17:40.57 | DocScrutinizer | ooh, really |
17:40.58 | MohammadAG | I nodded |
17:41.00 | DocScrutinizer | k, bbl |
17:41.01 | merlin1991 | I've got stable so far that we could upload it after Sicelo me my sister and hopefully someone else ahs tested for some time |
17:41.10 | MohammadAG | and borked the iPhone - again |
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17:41.48 | merlin1991 | Sicelo_: I've uploaded a new metapackge, update in ham should fix your version number |
17:42.04 | MohammadAG | new hwat? |
17:42.05 | MohammadAG | what |
17:42.12 | Sicelo_ | will test and report |
17:42.30 | DocScrutinizer | where's the damnit "vote for this bug" button? |
17:42.33 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: the stable repo resides on a test server @ http://87.106.163.159/maemo/community/ |
17:42.58 | MohammadAG | oh nice, we launched a testing stable :P |
17:43.10 | merlin1991 | I've been ironing out packaging and stuff last few days |
17:43.42 | merlin1991 | when it's proven to work for some days or so and X-Fade has give me a way to upload to maemo.org we can release to the wild |
17:43.47 | Sicelo_ | merlin1991: if i want to use apt? ... |
17:44.13 | merlin1991 | apt-get update apt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr |
17:44.16 | merlin1991 | dsmetool -b |
17:44.27 | merlin1991 | Sicelo_: ^^ |
17:44.43 | DocScrutinizer | nodded |
17:44.44 | Sicelo_ | thanks :) |
17:45.50 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: how's testing v 17 coming along? |
17:45.58 | DocScrutinizer | Sicelo_: NB you need a "clean" PR1.3(.1) |
17:46.18 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: he's fine |
17:46.23 | Sicelo_ | i'm already 'dirty' |
17:46.28 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, just got the SMS lol |
17:46.34 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, I think it's stable |
17:46.34 | merlin1991 | wtf took that long? |
17:46.35 | merlin1991 | lmao |
17:46.40 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, no, I bricked my iPhone |
17:46.43 | merlin1991 | :D |
17:46.45 | MohammadAG | primary phone, sorry :p |
17:47.01 | DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: I found wmo cssu-S pages aren't indexed/linked |
17:47.17 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: huh? |
17:48.09 | merlin1991 | srly turn of your bot scripts doc |
17:48.13 | DocScrutinizer | no sub-index for CSSU, no place where you'd find the URL to CSSU-Stable_features and *changelog |
17:48.28 | merlin1991 | that's intentional |
17:48.47 | merlin1991 | should only get indexed linked when we release it |
17:48.52 | DocScrutinizer | k |
17:49.00 | DocScrutinizer | just felt to mention it |
17:49.56 | DocScrutinizer | AAAAH :-) |
17:50.06 | DocScrutinizer | edit-lock for homescreens |
17:51.13 | DocScrutinizer | ^^^ feature for cssu-T18 |
17:51.24 | merlin1991 | exists |
17:51.29 | DocScrutinizer | where? |
17:51.51 | merlin1991 | ah wait sorry |
17:51.56 | merlin1991 | does not exist |
17:52.15 | DocScrutinizer | yes, that's exactly what I said as well |
17:52.24 | DocScrutinizer | :-) |
17:53.14 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: when do you think will we get testing-17? |
17:56.29 | DocScrutinizer | :-S |
17:56.58 | merlin1991 | that's one thing online meetings lack, the chance to actually force an answer by looking at people .P |
17:57.26 | fw190 | good one ;) |
17:58.50 | merlin1991 | Sicelo_: did the version number work out? |
18:00.11 | DocScrutinizer | twiddles thumbs |
18:00.17 | Sicelo_ | haven't tested yet. bad connection. will test witihn an hour, |
18:00.35 | merlin1991 | no stress, it only sounded like you'd test straight away :) |
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18:01.11 | DocScrutinizer | watches his beard grow |
18:01.22 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: hello? |
18:02.22 | DocScrutinizer | for next Friday we'll get a topics list, to make this session a bit more efficient |
18:02.33 | DocScrutinizer | pretty please |
18:02.50 | Sicelo | +1 |
18:03.00 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, tonight hopefully |
18:03.07 | MohammadAG | or tomorrow morning |
18:03.08 | merlin1991 | awesome |
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18:03.25 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, they also lack fan donations |
18:03.33 | MohammadAG | by fan I meant physical CPU fans |
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18:03.56 | MohammadAG | what did you change? :P |
18:04.13 | DocScrutinizer | nuttin |
18:04.25 | DocScrutinizer | goes shave his beard |
18:04.58 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG one thing left, how are we goign todo the version numbers now? |
18:05.53 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: you're expecting too much mags cpu fan ;) |
18:06.20 | merlin1991 | s/too much/too much of/ |
18:06.24 | MohammadAG | merlin1991, I'm still not sure |
18:06.28 | MohammadAG | V17 will be version 1 |
18:06.35 | MohammadAG | of the new update number/string |
18:06.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | cool |
18:06.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | +1 |
18:07.34 | merlin1991 | the mp on the test server is Installed: 21.2011.38-1Smaemo0.5 |
18:07.57 | merlin1991 | so either you call yours accordingly 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1 |
18:08.01 | merlin1991 | or we do the epoch thing |
18:08.06 | merlin1991 | but we do should decide that |
18:09.14 | merlin1991 | and since it's meeting time I'd say it's the perfect time todo so |
18:12.19 | DocScrutinizer51 | don't mess with epoch, my 2 eurocent |
18:14.08 | merlin1991 | epoch in theory is meant to fix broken versioning |
18:14.23 | DocScrutinizer51 | I don't see why we'd need to bother about it anyway |
18:14.24 | merlin1991 | so you can "start over" when you've published a mess |
18:15.03 | MohammadAG | screw epochs, for one reason |
18:15.08 | MohammadAG | Qt already uses 1: |
18:15.49 | merlin1991 | btw that S / T thingy only applies to the mp |
18:16.36 | merlin1991 | all the other packages are importet 1:1 from testing when considered stable |
18:16.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | the 2 repos are segregate anyway |
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18:17.10 | merlin1991 | ah yeah when you update your mp, don't forget to change the posinst |
18:17.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | so no problems with version num whatsoever |
18:17.18 | merlin1991 | *postinst* |
18:17.59 | merlin1991 | that too |
18:18.24 | merlin1991 | okay conclusion 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo1 will be new testing - 17 |
18:18.53 | merlin1991 | I'm waiting for X-Fade and some days and then stable will go live |
18:19.09 | MohammadAG | postinst? |
18:19.12 | MohammadAG | change it to what? |
18:19.19 | merlin1991 | the pr 1.3.1 release |
18:19.46 | merlin1991 | the call to osso-product-info writes pr1.3 version number |
18:20.04 | merlin1991 | but testing will be based of 1.3.1 since we include everything 1.3.1 updates |
18:22.27 | merlin1991 | the new string is RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0' |
18:25.42 | DocScrutinizer | figures "DUH! cssu stable is newer version than testing!1!!1! Get dis cool new shit, tis hot !" and rotfls |
18:29.54 | merlin1991 | okay I'm out |
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18:42.18 | Sicelo | merlin1991: yes, version string correct now. (if only i knew dsmetool -b would reboot) |
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20:46.04 | Macer | is the release done? |
20:46.14 | Macer | i have to reflash anyways |
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21:16.05 | DocScrutinizer | Macer: there's a cssu-S test version, on a semi-nonpunlic repo |
21:16.25 | DocScrutinizer | http://87.106.163.159/maemo/community/ |
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21:17.32 | DocScrutinizer | actually http://87.106.163.159/maemo/community/community-fremantle.install |
21:17.47 | Macer | i see. ok. i have to reflash :-( |
21:18.10 | Macer | messed up my n900 because fmtx wasnt working |
21:18.13 | DocScrutinizer | it's a TEST version! |
21:18.19 | DocScrutinizer | of Stable |
21:18.27 | Macer | so i wanted to go back using backup menu |
21:18.44 | Macer | a testing stable :-) |
21:18.59 | Macer | how oxymoronic |
21:19.03 | DocScrutinizer | yup :-) |
21:19.31 | Macer | well... once the ups guy pops up i will try it |
21:19.49 | Macer | is there a way to flash it or is it a pr1.3 upgrade? |
21:20.11 | DocScrutinizer | that's a repository to upgrade from a clean PR1.3 |
21:20.22 | Macer | ok. so i need 1.3? |
21:20.25 | DocScrutinizer | yes |
21:20.34 | Macer | no straight flash |
21:20.38 | DocScrutinizer | no |
21:20.48 | Macer | is it outside the lic to make an img? |
21:20.56 | Macer | for a straight flash? |
21:21.29 | DocScrutinizer | CSSU is never been meant to be a complete system/distro, it's a supplementary repo to ship fixes to stock PR |
21:22.08 | Macer | i see |
21:22.15 | DocScrutinizer | and we generally don't ship (C)nok blobs anyway |
21:23.28 | Macer | well. i will try the testing stable later :-) |
21:23.39 | Macer | i have to reflash anyways |
21:23.46 | Macer | backupmenu made things worse |
21:23.54 | Macer | :-( what a let down |
21:24.28 | Macer | i was like... ok. i messed it up beyond a simple repair.... let me rewimd with backupmenu |
21:24.40 | Macer | great.... now it just keeps rebooting |
21:24.54 | Macer | i am guessing backupmenu does not replace the kernel |
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22:23.53 | neal | does the cssu include a kernel? |
22:23.59 | neal | if so, can we include the patch mentioned here: |
22:24.03 | neal | http://maemo.org/community/maemo-users/n900_microsd_card_i-o_errors_and_corruption/ |
22:24.21 | neal | I just encountered the same error. |
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22:29.07 | NIN102 | no the CSSU does not include a kernel |
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22:53.17 | Pali | neal: this patch is included in kernel-power |
22:57.57 | Macer | does the power kernel have fmtx issues? |
22:58.37 | Macer | i guess i will find out in a minute after i reflash everything |
22:58.46 | Macer | backupmenu totally failed me |
23:03.14 | Pali | kernel-power v49 has fmtx patch which can lock and/or unlock power level |
23:50.12 | DocScrutinizer | pali: wut? |
23:50.39 | DocScrutinizer | lock/unlocj kernel - whats that? |
23:55.21 | DocScrutinizer | I can't figure a kernel patch that unlocks a FOSS kernel |