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00:14.15 | mefistofeles | hey, I was wondering how is the ultra wide and HiDPI monitor experience with plasma, I'm planning on getting one |
00:14.30 | mefistofeles | if anyone has any tips or information, I'd appreciate it |
00:14.58 | JanKusanagi | no idea about why being "ultra wide" would matter, but HiDPI should have little issues, since Plasma supports screen scaling |
00:16.00 | mefistofeles | JanKusanagi: about the ultra wide thing, I was thinking about the tiling |
00:16.08 | JanKusanagi | huh? |
00:16.21 | mefistofeles | for example, I'm not sure I could make it easy to put four windows, could I? |
00:16.28 | mefistofeles | like in a single row |
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00:23.32 | mefistofeles | as in, you get tiling shortcuts only for left/right up/down |
00:24.06 | mefistofeles | but for an ultra wide monitor it may be convenient to have an extra level for left/right tiling |
00:27.49 | mefistofeles | https://github.com/zhimsel/Kwin-Ultrawide-Tiling so I guess something like this may work |
00:28.27 | JanKusanagi | there are a lot of things that can be done via KWin's scripting |
00:28.33 | JanKusanagi | but KWin is not a tiling WM |
00:29.36 | mefistofeles | or something like this https://github.com/lingtjien/Grid-Tiling-Kwin |
00:29.45 | mefistofeles | JanKusanagi: yeah, I know that of course |
00:30.03 | mefistofeles | but tiling is pretty much convenient if not required for such ultra wide monitors, imho |
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00:39.35 | sigNeon | do people not use the http://forum.kde.org |
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00:43.18 | mefistofeles | sigNeon: I prefer IRC, then the forum |
00:43.37 | sigNeon | the forum on kde.org is dead |
00:43.57 | sigNeon | I'm having a few issues, one with Settings > Global Themes. |
00:44.06 | sigNeon | when trying to install a new theme Settings app crashes |
00:44.09 | sigNeon | and... |
00:44.24 | sigNeon | KIO-Gdrive is broke, won't let you add a google account |
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00:44.44 | mefistofeles | but thanks to the forum I found about this https://github.com/esjeon/krohnkite |
00:44.46 | JanKusanagi | I don't use the forum, but it's certainly not dead |
00:45.23 | sigNeon | Plasma: 5.20.2 Frameworks version: 5.75.0 Qt Version: 5.15.0 |
00:45.55 | sigNeon | JanKusanagi: maybe not completely dead but certainly not a place to get quick answers |
00:45.57 | sigNeon | heh |
00:46.16 | JanKusanagi | I wouldn't expect a forum to be a place for quick answers... |
00:46.32 | sigNeon | I filed a bug report on the Settings app crashing when trying to install new themes. |
00:46.43 | sigNeon | need to file one for KIO-gdrive |
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07:20.56 | Doe | Hello, world! |
07:21.35 | Doe | Does your KDE capable with high resolution screens? |
07:22.01 | Doe | Apart from scaling, what other method do you use to make it looks better |
07:22.04 | mefistofeles | plasma should be able to handle high resolution displays, yes |
07:26.07 | mefistofeles | I don't really know what else is there other than scaling |
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07:30.34 | Doe | Thank you @mefistofeles |
07:30.52 | Doe | Much appreciate for your advice |
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08:33.37 | DarwinElf | 'identity.kde.org' |
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09:40.53 | Mamarok | DarwinElf: you should be able to log into bugs.kde.org with your identity account, if that doesn't work, open a sysadmin ticket |
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10:22.22 | homma | hi, i tried to disable Dim Screen and Screen Energy Saving On AC Power in the energy saving of KDE's power management, but it didn't work. After i didn't touch the mouse for a few minutes, the screen was locked. |
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12:08.00 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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12:55.15 | Lope | I came to ask a question, but solved it. I just want to say that KDE is frikkin amazing. |
12:55.28 | Lope | And thank you to all the devs and contributors. |
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13:10.56 | azrdev | KDE 5.18 on Fedora32 here. I had plasmashell hang today and restarted it with kquitapp&&kstart5. since, the meta key doesn't work anymore for plasma, as it did before: single press should open the launcher, meta+1 meta+2 etc should open my pinned programs from the taskbar |
13:11.01 | azrdev | any ideas? |
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13:14.00 | JanKusanagi | well, AFAIK that hack is handled by KWin, not plasmashell, so maybe restart kwin_x11 |
13:14.55 | JanKusanagi | (there's no "KDE 5.18", but there's Plasma 5.18) |
13:16.13 | swarfega | still says KDE in the about box |
13:18.51 | azrdev | re:version indeed, just took the wording from /topic |
13:21.14 | azrdev | re:mod indeed `kwin_x11 --replace` helped. before, I also noticed a lot of log lines "kglobalaccel5[2780]: kf.windowsystem.keyserver.x11: Your keyboard setup doesn't provide a key to use for meta. See 'xmodmap -pm' or 'xkbcomp $DISPLAY " in journal |
13:21.21 | azrdev | JanKusanagi: thanks for the nudge |
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13:28.40 | azrdev | actually, opening the launcher works, but pressing meta+numbers still doesn't and triggers the xmodmap warning |
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13:47.32 | RMichelsen | Hi all, I read that KDE Plasma 5.20 supports Wayland with Nvidia GPUs: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland/Nvidia. Does anyone know how multi-monitor support is? Especially with multiple screens with different refresh rates? |
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14:04.11 | Sauerland | RMichelsen: bad? https://linuxnews.de/2020/10/wayland-reif-fuer-den-produktiveinsatz/ |
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14:14.21 | RMichelsen | Sauerland: Well thats disappointing to read, (I google translated it). I was hoping I could finally give Linux a shot again. |
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14:16.26 | Sauerland | and why wayland? |
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14:24.36 | RMichelsen | X11 doesnt work with mixed refresh rates on Nvidia atleast |
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14:25.00 | mpm231 | "Default Applications" doesn't open, what can I do? |
14:25.02 | RMichelsen | Sauerland: And has abysmal performance for me, its to the point where it runs more laggish than my 10 year old laptop. On my i7-7700k and 2080Ti |
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14:26.10 | mpm231 | can I run Default Applications from the terminal to see if it has any errors? Is there a log somewhere? |
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14:43.00 | Bitterblue | RMichelsen: Try it out with Arch Linux or Opensuse Tumbleweed or Gentoo, probably. |
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14:52.54 | JanKusanagi | swarfega: if you mean the "About KDE" box, of course it says "KDE", because KDE is a thing... it's just not a desktop environment =) |
14:53.12 | swarfega | indeed |
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15:23.56 | twojukeboksi | y0. Anyone happen to know where I can change behaviour of my KDE neon 5.20.2 that newly opened windows are brought to the top of the stack? |
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15:24.46 | twojukeboksi | I don't like the default of needing to click the icon in the taskbar |
15:25.18 | Mamarok | twojukeboksi: for neon you should ask in #kde-neon-users |
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15:26.13 | twojukeboksi | But the answer is in the System Settings, I just don't know where. |
15:26.49 | twojukeboksi | Love the new textless large sticky icons taskbar btw, awesome |
15:27.05 | JanKusanagi | it's not new |
15:27.18 | JanKusanagi | the only new thing about it is that it's set by default |
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15:27.22 | JanKusanagi | (sadly...) |
15:27.41 | JanKusanagi | but the Icon-Only task manager widget has been available for ages |
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15:38.48 | twojukeboksi | The newest CryFS (default ciphering system of the KDE Wallet) was really impressive. I got ~ 65MB/s average rate on stashing 50GB of files. Seems like an improvement on parallelization. Towards the end it was asking for 470% of 8 cores |
15:39.33 | twojukeboksi | *KDE Vault, not Wallet |
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15:45.54 | JanKusanagi | they're called Plasma Vaults |
15:46.03 | JanKusanagi | from day 0 =) |
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16:50.52 | Definiotelynotja | Hey |
16:50.59 | JanKusanagi | o/ |
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16:51.18 | Definiotelynotja | I got a question about freenode |
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16:51.32 | Definiotelynotja | Why I can't netcat to chat.freenode.net:6667 through my machine |
16:51.33 | JanKusanagi | then this is not the place xD |
16:51.43 | Definiotelynotja | :( |
16:51.52 | JanKusanagi | I suggest you find out where Freenode's support is |
16:52.06 | JanKusanagi | this is a channel about software made by KDE, which happens to be hosted on Freenode's network |
16:52.08 | Definiotelynotja | I see |
16:52.22 | Definiotelynotja | Yeah, I just read "about" |
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18:38.33 | edgy | Hi, I read in the release notes that there is now SMART disk support in systemsettings but I cannot find it, any help, please? |
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18:39.26 | edgy | I see there is now this new plasma-disks 5.20.2 but searching for SMART reveals nothing |
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18:42.32 | Bitterblue | I thought it would be something that shows up among the Background Services. |
18:42.40 | Bitterblue | I don't see it there. |
18:43.42 | Bitterblue | Ah, but I have Plasma 5.20.1. The plasma-disks package is not installed. |
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18:44.04 | Bitterblue | Weird that it was introduced in .2. |
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18:48.37 | jankusanagi_ | it was introduced with Plasma 5.20.0 |
18:49.56 | Bitterblue | Oh, then it must not have been pulled in as a dependency for some existing package. |
18:50.17 | jankusanagi_ | I see no reason to have that be a dependency of anything, just an extra |
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18:59.05 | edgy | jankusanagi_: in Archlinux it's part of the group plasma |
18:59.48 | edgy | jankusanagi_: which is logical since no one want to install all plasma components manually |
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19:02.30 | edgy | I thought may be the smartd service is not running but it is. Still no way to access this SMART from systemsettings |
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19:04.57 | Bitterblue | It is in the Background Services, actually. But searching for "smart" doesn't lead there. |
19:07.58 | edgy | Bitterblue: in the Background services you can just run or stop the service, but there should be another place to see the result and monitor the disks |
19:08.16 | edgy | Bitterblue: it's shown in the release video |
19:08.40 | edgy | Bitterblue: check https://kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.20/plasma-disks.png |
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19:15.47 | Bitterblue | I have that. |
19:20.31 | edgy | Bitterblue: you have what? the one in the image? |
19:21.18 | edgy | Bitterblue: in which tab exactly? |
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19:22.10 | edgy | my bad! I was searching in systemsettings whereas it is in systeminfo |
19:23.05 | edgy | it's in kinfocenter |
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19:25.19 | edgy | Another thing they mentioned we can now control the charging limit of the battery. I couldn't find this too ;) |
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19:30.52 | qwe3450 | CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4710HQ CPU @ 2.50GHz @ 2494 MHZ (Intel64 Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3), 1024 KB Cache |
19:31.23 | qwe3450 | MEM: 8109 MB - 17% (1377 MB) free |
19:31.30 | qwe3450 | GFX: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M 2048 Mb, SCREEN: Generic PnP Monitor, 1920 x 1080 @ 32 bit, 60 Hz |
19:31.43 | qwe3450 | DISKS: total 918 GB - 25,4 GB free |
19:31.49 | qwe3450 | AUDIO: Realtek High Definition Audio |
19:32.09 | qwe3450 | UPTIME: 8 days, 7 hours, 15 minutes |
19:32.19 | Fuchs | okay.jpg |
19:34.33 | edgy | any one knows about how to set the battery limit in new plasma? |
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19:53.58 | Bitterblue | Isn't the battery charging limit thing exclusive to Thinkpads? |
19:54.36 | ncuxo | Hello, Is there a way to make the Clipboard app to auto delete its content? |
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20:01.37 | SGOrava | Hello, where do I find a way to disable transparent context menus in plasma widgets (the one triggered from toolbar and so on| |
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21:16.38 | jankusanagi_ | define "toolbar" xD |
21:17.31 | SGOrava | the main one |
21:17.59 | SGOrava | the one with application menu, taskbar, tray, clock and mess |
21:18.01 | jankusanagi_ | huh? |
21:18.07 | jankusanagi_ | ah, ok, the panel |
21:18.26 | jankusanagi_ | but context menus there are the same as in any Qt-based program |
21:18.35 | jankusanagi_ | so in your Qt style options |
21:18.49 | SGOrava | I use kvantum for qt |
21:18.56 | jankusanagi_ | so in kvantum's options |
21:19.13 | SGOrava | the normal context menu is not transparent while only the menu from this panel is transparent |
21:19.45 | SGOrava | since you know that, can you nacigate me how to change it? |
21:19.48 | jankusanagi_ | I see regular Qt menues |
21:20.00 | jankusanagi_ | unless you don't really meant _context_ menus |
21:20.39 | jankusanagi_ | context menues are generally triggered via right-mouse-button, is that what you mean? |
21:20.42 | SGOrava | when I invoke context menu on clock it is transparent, well the main one is, the child menu is normal after that |
21:21.02 | SGOrava | yes that i what I mean, right click menu |
21:22.15 | jankusanagi_ | I just remembered, it's actually a desktop effect, regardless of your Qt style |
21:22.28 | jankusanagi_ | it's the "Translucency" effect in the Desktop Effects list |
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21:23.19 | SGOrava | I already disabled that one, do I need to reboot to make it take effect? |
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21:23.53 | jankusanagi_ | no idea |
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21:24.12 | jankusanagi_ | maybe in your case it's a Kvantum specific thing |
21:24.38 | SGOrava | so you think it is kvantum bug? |
21:25.17 | SGOrava | the thing is normal qt probgrams are fine, only this panel menus are like this |
21:26.18 | SGOrava | OK, whatever, I will go and find some other window manager which supports the features I need, Plasma is too big |
21:26.29 | SGOrava | Thank you for your help |
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21:27.20 | bomb | double clicking on the title bar doesn't maximize the window, even though it's configured to do so. is it a known bug? I'm on 5.19.5 |
21:29.57 | jankusanagi_ | no idea, but works fine on Plasma 5.20.2 |
21:30.03 | jankusanagi_ | is that in any window? |
21:30.18 | jankusanagi_ | or maybe some CSD-based (cancer) window? |
21:30.57 | jankusanagi_ | SGOrava: Plasma is not a window manager, it's not too big, and it's not at fault for Kvantum faults |
21:30.59 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
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21:32.13 | bomb | jankusanagi_: it's the case for all KDE apps too |
21:33.52 | jankusanagi_ | and this has been happening for a while, with at least one reboot? |
21:33.56 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_ look, I just need some more advanced window manager so I treid plasma since I have most of kde things installed anyway; you say it is kvantum bug, but theming in KDE is total mess, you have widget styles (regular qt| and than you have some colors it is true mess and it is utterly fault of Plasma |
21:34.17 | jankusanagi_ | no xD |
21:34.56 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_: I know plasma is not WM, it is DE, I wanted to use kwin but tat the same time I would need some mess around it and change everything so why not directly try plasma? |
21:35.39 | SGOrava | so I did try it, apart from it providing me support for that single feature I need it is hell to use |
21:37.39 | jankusanagi_ | no |
21:38.05 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_: you say it is not too big, it depends on how much of it you know, I knew almost nothing and the default behaviour of most thing is unacceptable so changing everything to more acceptable state takes a lot of time, that is what I mean by big, it has too many options but it lacks the one I wish to have |
21:38.57 | SGOrava | in the end it is very bad trade, I gained one feature from windows manager (kwin is it?| but lost everything else |
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21:39.53 | SGOrava | you say no to me because the functions provided are enough for you, i say all this mess in order to explain why I see it this or that way |
21:41.32 | jankusanagi_ | no xD |
21:42.03 | SGOrava | jankusanagi_: in a way I am grateful to plasma/kwin, it provided me refuge and "help" when I needed it. But it is imposible for it to become my daily driver WM/DE |
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21:42.18 | jankusanagi_ | my Plasma is as far from defaults as it can get, btw |
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21:42.51 | bomb | jankusanagi_: reboot solved the double click maximize problem. it's weird restarting plasma didn't :) |
21:43.07 | jankusanagi_ | what do you mean by "restarting plasma"? |
21:43.30 | SGOrava | OK, i wish to be able to focus window from taskbar by scroll up/down with mouse wheel, I did not find this function there (there is only some switch to next/previous which is not what I desire| |
21:43.43 | jankusanagi_ | if you mean "restarting the plasmashell process", that wouldn't restart KWin, so the titlebar issue would continue |
21:43.46 | bomb | jankusanagi_: plasmashell --replace |
21:43.55 | bomb | hmm |
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21:44.09 | jankusanagi_ | yep, that doesn't restart the window manager, so your issue of course, continues |
21:44.25 | jankusanagi_ | you _can_ use kwin_x11 (or kwin_wayland, if applicable) --replace |
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21:45.19 | bomb | jankusanagi_: ah, okay. thank you |
21:45.25 | jankusanagi_ | yw |
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22:23.52 | ncuxo | jankusanagi_: can I get some input on my question also please |
22:24.45 | jankusanagi_ | ? |
22:32.23 | ncuxo | Is there a way to make the Clipboard app to auto delete its content? |
22:32.33 | jankusanagi_ | auto-delete when? |
22:33.01 | jankusanagi_ | if you don't want a clipboard history, you can disable the clipboard widget altogether, like I do =) |
22:33.20 | jankusanagi_ | you don't need that widget to have basic clipboard functionality |
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22:35.00 | ncuxo | Is disable enough? |
22:35.26 | ncuxo | I was thinking more of uninstall but thats impossible because it is integrated in the Plasma Desktop |
22:35.42 | jankusanagi_ | no need to uninstall anything |
22:36.02 | jankusanagi_ | if you disable it from the systray, you'll only have the basic clipboard functionality |
22:36.31 | jankusanagi_ | that is, only one thing in the clipboard at a time, and the thing gets lost if you close the originating program before pasting somewhere else |
22:37.07 | ncuxo | my problem is that some of my password clipboards ended up there |
22:37.40 | ncuxo | I can setup my Password manager to forget it after 15 sec but clipboard widget kept them for a whole week :D |
22:38.49 | jankusanagi_ | well, your problem would go away if you disable the Clipboard wdiget |
22:39.03 | jankusanagi_ | not that I understand why one would copy passwords to the clipboard, though... xD |
22:39.14 | ncuxo | I've noticed that today and disabled it but I didn't knew if it is enough |
22:40.04 | ncuxo | how to do transfer your passwords from the Password manager to the site you are entering if your db is local and you don't use any plugins? |
22:40.27 | jankusanagi_ | my password manager is my brain, and the transfer is via fingers xD |
22:41.08 | ncuxo | well different account and 20 char random password on each account cant fit in my brain |
22:41.47 | ncuxo | I'm using a single 30 chars rand gen password I've made myself remember to unlock the password manager |
22:42.04 | ncuxo | the rest I don't have space for them in my brain :D |
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22:44.17 | newuser6548 | Hello |
22:45.46 | jankusanagi_ | o/ |
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22:53.05 | bomb | is it possible to spin down internal hard drives? |
22:55.18 | sigNeon | bomb: what would be the purpose of that? |
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22:56.06 | bomb | sigNeon: energy and noise reduction |
22:57.13 | sigNeon | time to switch to SSD's |
22:57.20 | jankusanagi_ | if you unmount the drive, its own firmware should spin it down after some time |
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22:58.30 | bomb | never seem to happen on Linux like it does on Windows jankusanagi_ |
22:58.47 | sigNeon | and I actually think you can do that in hdparm |
22:59.02 | jankusanagi_ | there's probably a way via hdparm or via smartmontools |
22:59.18 | jankusanagi_ | but an unmounted driver should spin down after a number of minutes |
22:59.24 | jankusanagi_ | the minutes depend on the firmware |
22:59.25 | sigNeon | https://superuser.com/questions/852727/safe-to-manually-spin-down-hard-drive-with-hdparm |
23:00.09 | sigNeon | looks like hd-idle is maybe what you're looking for |
23:00.09 | bomb | I can assure you it's spinning for hours unmounted |
23:00.32 | bomb | yeah, gotta do with hdparm/hdidle until KDE comes with a way :) |
23:00.37 | SGOrava | sometimes it depends on power |
23:01.03 | SGOrava | if you for exAMPLE HAVE JUST A CASE FOR DISK WITH EXTERNAL POWERSOURCE IT COULD BE SPINNING FOREVER |
23:01.39 | SGOrava | at least one for me did that, sorry for caps |
23:01.51 | bomb | I thought you're yelling at me :\ |
23:02.17 | bomb | KDE apparently takes control when it comes to external HDDs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270808 |
23:04.02 | sigNeon | SSD |
23:04.09 | sigNeon | SSD's are so cheap these days |
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23:07.48 | jankusanagi_ | bomb: that bug was fixed... |
23:07.50 | SGOrava | sigNeon: Super Sweet Dream |
23:08.03 | sigNeon | heh |
23:10.11 | sigNeon | they have 1TB WD Black gaming SSD |
23:10.20 | sigNeon | for 59 dollars here |
23:10.37 | bomb | $59 is my monthly income |
23:10.43 | sigNeon | haha |
23:10.46 | sigNeon | where are you at? |
23:11.00 | bomb | in a failing economy |
23:11.25 | bomb | hdparm -Y /dev/blabla did the trick, by the way |
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23:11.35 | sigNeon | bomb: yeah hear ya |
23:11.40 | sigNeon | bomb: nice |
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23:25.43 | bomb | sigNeon: oh -Y shuts down the driver entirely, while -y enters the standby mode |
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23:26.24 | bomb | I know you don't need to worry about this archaic stuff, just wanted to let you know in case you'll help someone else in the future :) |
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23:33.00 | sigNeon | bomb: thanks, already know hdparm fairly well |
23:34.39 | bomb | cool cool. I need to investigate the black smoke rising from my HDDs |
23:35.28 | sigNeon | lmao |
23:36.28 | sigNeon | this lawyer that he's loosing his shit on from DC is a suspected child molester and Roger Stone straight blows that up at him in this deposition |
23:36.52 | sigNeon | Larry Klayman is his name |
23:37.31 | SGOrava | so, the sould of the HDD is gone, you are doomed |
23:37.49 | sigNeon | damn sorry wrong chann |
23:39.16 | Guest4134 | I installed kdeneon on my system and its not booting |
23:39.27 | Guest4134 | I did manual partitioning |
23:40.03 | sigNeon | that might be your first investigation |
23:40.29 | Guest4134 | Ya |
23:40.39 | Guest4134 | what are the partition flags? |
23:40.49 | Guest4134 | I set boot flag for the efi boot partition |
23:42.49 | sigNeon | are you on a linux system? |
23:42.58 | Guest4134 | I would like to use the "Erase disk" option but I have 32 gb ram and the installer is allocating 33.4 gb of swap space which I don't want |
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23:43.22 | sigNeon | is that a liveCD? |
23:43.30 | sigNeon | you could boot that up and use Gparted |
23:43.37 | sigNeon | https://www.linux.org/threads/gparted-partition-and-filesystem-flags.11640/ |
23:44.16 | Guest4134 | ya live cd |
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23:58.09 | Guest4134 | those flags are not available with the calamaris installer |
23:58.27 | Guest4134 | from googling I understand that those flags are combiled now |
23:58.57 | Guest4134 | also articles suggest that the calamris installer is not mature |
23:59.24 | Guest4134 | so I am going with "Erase entire disk" option |
23:59.32 | Guest4134 | and then going to remove the swap later |