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| 01:54.34 | mefistofeles | hey, home/end keys not doing what I expect in konsole or yakuake, any ideas why is this? |
| 01:56.27 | jankusanagi_ | what do you expect, and what do they do? |
| 01:56.44 | mefistofeles | jankusanagi_: well, to go to the beginning or end of the command line |
| 01:57.03 | jankusanagi_ | that works here, with GNU Bash |
| 01:57.06 | mefistofeles | weird, it works in the laptop but not in desktop, there must be something I'm missing :P |
| 01:57.14 | jankusanagi_ | same shell, I assume? |
| 01:57.20 | mefistofeles | zsh |
| 01:57.28 | mefistofeles | but slightly different config for it, that should be it |
| 01:57.50 | jankusanagi_ | well, if you launch an XTerm window, for instance, does that work as expected? |
| 01:57.51 | mozzarella | those keys are not bound by default |
| 01:59.13 | mozzarella | though it's often done in the init files of most distros |
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| 02:43.11 | mefistofeles | it was in the zhrc config file, btw |
| 02:43.14 | mefistofeles | thanks for the help |
| 02:45.50 | jankusanagi_ | \o/ |
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| 03:56.37 | mefistofeles | is there a way to copy the keyboard shortcuts config from one machine to another? :P |
| 03:56.47 | mefistofeles | same plasma versions |
| 03:57.03 | jankusanagi_ | well, they're stored in simple text files under ~/.config/ |
| 03:57.23 | jankusanagi_ | depending on what exactly you mean by "keyboard shortcuts", but still |
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| 04:01.01 | mefistofeles | jankusanagi_: well, basically what I can set up in the settings manager |
| 04:01.36 | mefistofeles | wonder if that's just khotkeys in .config |
| 04:02.07 | mefistofeles | oh there is a kglobalshortcuts as well |
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| 07:14.35 | razzy | Hi, i have very specialised SUSE distribution. and i have SUSE, KDE, Plasma problem. When i fill Logon credentials there is page of "Settings of KDE configurations aspects" which is really big and unmovable and prevents me from doing anything. i have to wait 3 minutes or so until it dissapear. Thanks for help. |
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| 07:39.14 | pragomer | hi. I want to create a shortcut to the filemanager "ranger", like Super+R or so. When â benvantende-M |
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| 07:57.21 | physkets | Hi! I just upgraded to 5.72 , |
| 07:57.52 | physkets | and as soon as I booted back up, `kded5` went on the fritz using-up 200% CPU. |
| 07:58.39 | physkets | I killed it, the session, and restarted SDDM, and it seem fine now. |
| 07:58.57 | physkets | Has this happened to anyone else? |
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| 08:28.01 | goodger | physkets: give me a moment... |
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| 08:30.33 | goodger | physkets: I have just this second logged out/in, having updated to 5.72 late last night (presumably you are also using arch linux...), and I have had no such problem |
| 08:31.05 | goodger | chalk it up to C++ I guess? |
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| 09:52.42 | physkets | hmmm probably, goodger |
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| 11:04.15 | razzy | Hi all, I have a "Settings of KDE configurations aspects" window after logon, which prevents me from using a computer. any ideas? thanks. |
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| 11:14.25 | razzy | I did not find any closer information about KDE confiugration aspects windows. |
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| 11:35.24 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 11:43.53 | BluesKaj | hi rindolf, dunno, it's early |
| 11:44.28 | rindolf | BluesKaj: ah |
| 11:45.44 | rindolf | BluesKaj: i found a workaround for this issue: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26948 |
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| 12:09.04 | Masklin | Heya |
| 12:09.18 | Masklin | How do I hack the KDE Konsole to not smash tabs into spaces when I copy/paste ? |
| 12:09.29 | Masklin | It bothers me a lot |
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| 12:15.53 | razzy | anyone willing to help? Please? |
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| 12:17.10 | JanKusanagi | might be related to the "trim..." options in Konsole's profile, worth a try |
| 12:18.44 | Masklin | JanKusanagi: It applies to tabs within a string not just trailing or leading |
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| 12:20.49 | jankusanagi_ | connection died... ¬¬ |
| 12:20.56 | jankusanagi_ | Masklin: might be related to the "trim..." options in Konsole's profile, worth a try |
| 12:21.02 | jankusanagi_ | I have no idea what that window is, razzy, sounds like something distribution-specific |
| 12:22.09 | Masklin | JanKusanagi: It applies to tabs within a string not just trailing or leading |
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| 12:23.13 | jankusanagi_ | that's why I said "worth a try" |
| 12:23.39 | jankusanagi_ | it might affect more than just trailing or leading, if either is activated |
| 12:24.51 | razzy | jankusanagi_ its heavily modified SUSE |
| 12:25.11 | jankusanagi_ | you should probably ask on SUSE's channels then =) |
| 12:25.14 | razzy | APROL from br-automation |
| 12:25.27 | razzy | um, good idea |
| 12:25.43 | Masklin | jankusanagi_: Aight I tested, doesn't change. |
| 12:26.13 | Masklin | If I copy literal tabs from the prompt, they are copied as spaces. If I paste literal tabs (from e.g. a text editor) into the prompt, they come out as tab completion attempts |
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| 12:42.22 | jankusanagi_ | well, copying from Konsole is affected by the "Copy as HTML" too |
| 12:42.32 | jankusanagi_ | no idea if it could affect pasting in any way |
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| 12:47.16 | Masklin | I tried both without the HTML checkbox, and with it. |
| 12:47.50 | Masklin | If enabled, ctrl+shift+c does not send selection to xclip. If disabled, it does send the selection to xclip. Regardless, tabs are crushed to spaces. |
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| 13:23.36 | jankusanagi_ | then I guess a bug report/feature request is in order =) |
| 13:23.54 | jankusanagi_ | (even if tabs are evil xD) |
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| 13:31.16 | Masklin | Tabs are heckin amazing and I've googled a couple bug reports already, they were many years old. ;/ |
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| 18:45.16 | Ze_torrada | Ola |
| 18:45.22 | drogovic | boa tarde |
| 18:45.37 | drogovic | olá |
| 18:46.00 | jankusanagi_ | O_o |
| 18:46.04 | jankusanagi_ | hi? |
| 18:46.20 | drogovic | good |
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| 18:49.40 | drogovic | no falo a tua lingua |
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| 19:42.38 | mefistofeles | Apricot: You mean in Dolphin? |
| 19:42.45 | mefistofeles | because I think you can configure that in dolphin settings |
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| 20:30.08 | holyws | so i am a new linux user and i am noticing that every once in a while |
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| 20:30.26 | holyws | things will just dissapear from KDE... like for instance, currenlty kmix and my clock have suddenly gone missing |
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| 20:30.37 | holyws | with me not having changed anything, i cannot seem to re-add the clock. |
| 20:30.55 | holyws | i right click the panel, and click add widgets and drag the digital clock back to the panel but it does not work |
| 20:31.12 | jankusanagi_ | weird... |
| 20:31.30 | holyws | dunno if its weird this always happens with gtk and qt desktops.. but i would like to fix it, any ideas? |
| 20:31.46 | jankusanagi_ | I've never had such an issue with Plasma |
| 20:31.52 | jankusanagi_ | can you add the clock widget to the desktop? |
| 20:32.01 | holyws | been a consistent issue with me since 3.x |
| 20:32.09 | holyws | persistent i should say |
| 20:32.14 | holyws | but thats just on the *nix desktop in general |
| 20:32.16 | holyws | okay ill try |
| 20:32.36 | holyws | looks like no |
| 20:32.36 | jankusanagi_ | I've used Plasma on many machines, and I've never seen this... |
| 20:32.42 | holyws | widget must be crashing |
| 20:32.51 | jankusanagi_ | many iterations of Plasma 4, and many of Plasma 5 |
| 20:33.03 | jankusanagi_ | can you try creating a new user to see if this one has those issues too? |
| 20:33.04 | holyws | same and i wish i could share your experience |
| 20:33.08 | holyws | will do |
| 20:33.20 | holyws | oh yeah also my shortcut for konsole no longer works |
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| 20:33.58 | holyws | i must leave this channel to log out i will be back |
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| 20:37.39 | holyws | it is missing on other users too, i guess the widget isnt launching |
| 20:37.55 | holyws | i cant find any info about it in my xorg log or anything being spewed about it intty1 |
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| 20:39.53 | holyws | KDE reports no missing packages |
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| 20:40.14 | jankusanagi_ | you could stop plasmashell via kquitapp5 and launch plasmashell again from a Konsole window to see output |
| 20:40.17 | jankusanagi_ | what distribution is this? |
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| 20:41.40 | holyws | i am using debian stable |
| 20:41.58 | holyws | wil do |
| 20:42.40 | holyws | what is the command to launch it agian |
| 20:42.59 | jankusanagi_ | just "plasmashell" |
| 20:43.01 | Fuchs | plasmashell should do, unless debian stable has very olde packages |
| 20:43.15 | jankusanagi_ | no, not even Debian Stable is _that_ old to have Plasma 4 xD |
| 20:43.42 | holyws | kde version 5.19 |
| 20:43.43 | jankusanagi_ | if you want to be able to close the Konsole window at some point, run "plasmashell &" |
| 20:43.55 | jankusanagi_ | that's the version of Plasma =) |
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| 20:44.03 | holyws | plasmashell command does not exist, can it be ran manually/? |
| 20:44.10 | jankusanagi_ | w00t? |
| 20:44.28 | holyws | they warned me about debian |
| 20:44.51 | holyws | maybe i will just go back to my previous os |
| 20:44.54 | jankusanagi_ | I've run Debian on several machines, with Plasma, and no issues either... |
| 20:44.55 | nicolas17 | plasmashell on debian is provided by the plasma-workspace package |
| 20:45.09 | jankusanagi_ | just *how* did you install this? xD |
| 20:45.11 | holyws | debian itself gives me no issues |
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| 20:46.15 | holyws | rather its severely outdated packages, i installed it via task-kde-desktop |
| 20:46.37 | holyws | it does not matter |
| 20:46.53 | holyws | the linux desktop is still volatile and unpredictable after all this time, i am going to go back to bsd |
| 20:46.54 | holyws | later |
| 20:47.05 | jankusanagi_ | *sigh* |
| 20:47.08 | nicolas17 | "the linux desktop" |
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| 20:47.32 | nicolas17 | all "BSD desktop environments" work on Linux too :P |
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| 20:52.54 | zztopless | what is the file I need to edit to change the dimensions of the application launcher (kb 20.04)? |
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| 20:54.30 | jankusanagi_ | knowledge base 20.04? =) |
| 20:55.28 | asturm | kilobit? |
| 20:57.54 | zztopless | sorry, kubuntu |
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| 20:59.10 | jankusanagi_ | where you talking to Fuchs about this yesterday? it's some QML file for either the Kicker or Kickoff widgets |
| 20:59.18 | jankusanagi_ | somewhere under /usr/share, probably |
| 20:59.24 | Fuchs | I think that was a different user, but I'll have it up in a minute, hang on |
| 20:59.57 | Fuchs | Layout.minimumHeight: units.gridUnit * 34 in FullRepresentation.qml << you want this, |
| 21:00.29 | Fuchs | and that file is in /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kicker/contents/ui/ |
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| 21:00.37 | Fuchs | (or kickoff and not kicker, I can't remember which is which) |
| 21:03.04 | zztopless | No FullRepresentation.qml in usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kicker/contents/ui :( |
| 21:03.21 | Fuchs | then that's the one for kickoff, I guess |
| 21:03.34 | Fuchs | if you use kicker, you can just go in the contents/ui folder of that and grep for a height |
| 21:03.55 | Fuchs | best check which of the two you are using first though |
| 21:04.01 | Fuchs | editing the wrong one won't give you much |
| 21:04.12 | zztopless | kicker? |
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| 21:18.18 | zztopless | https://pastebin.com/0ar7QZdn - that's all the FullRepresentation.qml files I have |
| 21:19.00 | Fuchs | and you use kicker and not kickoff? |
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| 21:19.31 | zztopless | what is kicker and kickoff? |
| 21:19.41 | asturm | kickoff was an amiga game in the 90s |
| 21:19.56 | zztopless | lol I remember |
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| 21:20.18 | Fuchs | zztopless: both are application launchers |
| 21:20.24 | zztopless | friend had an amiga pc prolly ~ 92 - remember watching him play it |
| 21:20.30 | zztopless | ahh ok |
| 21:20.36 | Fuchs | if you use kickoff, you want to edit /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kickoff/contents/ui/FullRepresentation.qml |
| 21:20.39 | zztopless | im just using the default application launcher in kubuntu |
| 21:20.40 | Fuchs | with the line I pointed out |
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| 21:21.00 | Fuchs | I have no idea which one kubuntu defaults to, but if you edit the very thing I pointed out and restart plasma, and it changes its height, you got the right one |
| 21:21.09 | Fuchs | if not, then you probably have to check wherever kicker defines its height. |
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| 21:22.10 | Fuchs | in which case my best guess would be the calculation found near the top of MenuRepresentation.qml |
| 21:22.17 | Fuchs | anyway, -> bed |
| 21:25.21 | zztopless | one of these? /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.kicker/contents/ui/MenuRepresentation.qml |
| 21:25.22 | zztopless | Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) |
| 21:25.31 | zztopless | sorry |
| 21:25.44 | zztopless | . /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.simplemenu/contents/ui/MenuRepresentation.qml |
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| 21:29.24 | zztopless | one of those two? |
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| 22:35.24 | woodwose | anyone around that has a shell script to show the number of unread mails in kmail? I can't use the tray icon... |
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| 22:46.35 | woodwose | or let's rephrase that question: is it possible to get the number of unread mail in kmail via shell? |
| 22:46.56 | JanKusanagi | maybe via D-Bus |
| 22:47.08 | woodwose | I tried to do it maybe a year ago... |
| 22:47.12 | woodwose | couldn't figure it out |
| 22:47.49 | woodwose | I am running kmail from within i3wm... and I don't get status-notifier-items... |
| 22:47.54 | woodwose | (tray icon) |
| 22:48.05 | woodwose | that's why I 'm asking |
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| 22:48.41 | woodwose | qt5ct does translate sni tray bar icons to xembed but it's buggy and I 'd like to not use qt5ct anymore |
| 22:49.00 | woodwose | especially right now, because there are some other issues with it... |
| 22:49.10 | woodwose | preventing doplhin from showing icons correctly |
| 22:49.42 | asturm | qt5ct is known to cause all sorts of issues |
| 22:50.47 | woodwose | yeah |
| 22:50.57 | woodwose | but what are you gonna do if there are no alternatives... |
| 22:51.13 | woodwose | e.g. to that SNI <=> xembed wrapper |
| 22:51.28 | woodwose | or proxy or whatever to call it |
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| 22:56.24 | JanKusanagi | probably better to call it "proxy" |
| 22:56.33 | JanKusanagi | since Plasma has the opposite, and it's called "proxy" =) |
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