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01:29.19acidtripperHi, im having a issue with plasma 5.18
01:29.51acidtripperwhen more than two users are logged in on pc, i try to shutdown via plasma and get's freezed
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01:38.00jankusanagi_frozen how? not even the mouse moves?
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02:31.35LevelChart8how do I add programs to my "favorites"?
02:32.54jankusanagi_from the application launcher, hover over any program, right click → Add to Favorites
02:33.08jankusanagi_at least that works with Application Menu
02:33.27jankusanagi_Application Launcher should work just the same
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02:43.47LevelChart8jankusanagi_: thank you
02:44.02LevelChart8do you have recommendations for TODO list apps or calendar apps?
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06:11.40n5771https://www.facebook.com/100002188643854/posts/2917826294966963/?app=fbl
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06:25.06Lazydoghello, i'm presently running RedcoreLinux 20.04 with kde 5.18.5 i have a problem with add to favorites in the menu they disapear once i reboot the system. not surte where to look to figure out/fix this issue.  any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
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06:41.33shtrbwill  I be able to use U2F with akonadi / plasma ?
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09:06.29DwarfI'm still amazed that I can install KDE plasma, connect my phone over Bluetooth and play my music over the HiFi set connected to my computer without having to fiddle with drivers/settings/whatever
09:07.08shtrbWelcome to Linux 2010 :D
09:07.14DwarfNot to mention that I can control what music from my computer and vice versa using KDE connect
09:07.58shtrbkdeconnect , is a piece of a magnificent software, even with it's shortcoms it's still amazing thing
09:08.37asturmDwarf: what a time to be alive
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09:08.56DwarfIt really is. Now I have even fewer reasons to leave my bed
09:08.57CookieJarindeed it is, I tend to use it to transfer files to/from my phone because it's easier / works faster than usb with mtp or w/e it's called
09:11.03shtrbCookieJar , They even implemented SMS in the past (receiving them , I do not remember if they had outgoing too), so theoretically it should support RCS and beacon messages when you see them .
09:12.22shtrbasturm, do you have an idea about yubikey and plasma ?
09:12.29asturmno
09:12.35shtrbthanks
09:12.38DwarfYou mean for logging in?
09:13.02shtrbYes , to GMail services and corporate networks (vpn)
09:13.09DwarfAs far as I've seen there's no built-in support for Fido/u2f in sddm
09:13.23DwarfUsing it in your browser shouldn't be an issue though
09:13.30DwarfBut that is unrelated to plasma
09:13.40shtrbThat I'm ok with , I'm asking for existing plasma session (like for akonadi )
09:14.38DwarfU2F might work without any other steps except maybe installing u2f-host for the udev rules
09:15.06DwarfUsing it in smartcard mode requires a few extra steps but is also quite trivial
09:15.38shtrboh nice
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09:45.16bodomHi there! I've just upgraded to latest kubuntu and all my windows lost their border. How can i restore it?
09:47.32rindolfbodom: hi
09:47.50rindolfbodom: does it happen in a new system user?
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09:51.21bodomrindolf: just tried: a new system user has a completely different look
09:51.52rindolfbodom: ah, a better one?
09:52.25bodomrindolf: can't really say, i suppose it's a matter of personal taste
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09:55.07rindolfbodom: hmmm...
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09:55.47rindolfbodom: you can try bisecting your ~/.config files: https://github.com/shlomif/Freenode-programming-channel-FAQ/blob/master/FAQ_with_ToC__generated.md#what-does-bisecting-mean
09:57.12bodomrindolf: i don't have a copy of the config files before the upgrade
09:58.08rindolfbodom: if a config file is missing, there will be a default setting
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10:00.51bodomrindolf: oh, solved! Just for reference, under settings -> window sdecorations, i unchecked "use default border width" and chosen a custom one. The border is now back.
10:01.08rindolfbodom: ah
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11:36.49BluesKaj'Morning folks
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11:47.37rindolfbodom: thanks for the tip
11:47.41rindolfBluesKaj: hey
11:47.54BluesKajhi rindolf
11:48.34rindolfBluesKaj: sup?
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16:32.21indoorcatcan somone program a timer for nintendo speed run so I don't have to go back to window
16:33.11indoorcatI also, his is more complicated but I want to purchase chessbase lessons and need windows or mac os to run the lessons
16:34.38JanKusanagiO_o
16:34.59JanKusanagiin this instance, I'll be glad this person *didn't* wait for an answer xD
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17:24.46bkeysHas there been any effort to integrate Konversation into Kontact?
17:25.14bkeysI have been using thunderbird for about a decade and like how chat and email live in the same place
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17:32.45asturmerr... what's the rationale behind that?
17:33.15asturmbut no, I'm not aware of any such effort
17:33.22bkeysI have the same functionality in thunderbird and it is what prevents me from using kontact
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17:33.37bkeysHaving all the communication happen in 1 application is nice IMO
17:33.43asturmbut is it really preventing you?
17:34.13bkeysI am just asking if there has been any effort, not trying to get into a debate about it
17:34.39anahata-Mviolates the Unix philosophy and has done since Mozilla had that awful idea so long ago
17:35.37bkeysI will just take that as a no.
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17:41.24rindolfanahata-M: regarding unix's philosopy see: http://shlomifishswiki.branchable.com/Unix_Philosophy_of_One_Tool_for_One_Job/
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18:49.27t4nk_freenodeanyone off the top of your head.. what might I be missing when I encounter this?
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18:50.34JanKusanagiI think you might want #plasma or #kde-devel
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18:51.25t4nk_freenodeI'll have a look
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19:06.49LazydogREPOST: hello, i'm presently running RedcoreLinux 20.04 with kde 5.18.5 i have a problem with add to favorites in the menu they disapear once i reboot the system. not surte where to look to figure out/fix this issue.  any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
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19:17.05JanKusanagi(**Plasma 5.18.5)
19:17.30JanKusanagican your user write correctly to ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc ?
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19:34.18asturmt4nk_freenode: mesa git master?
19:34.35t4nk_freenodeyes, asturm
19:34.48asturmt4nk_freenode: try this: https://cgit.kde.org/kwin.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.18&id=2c76cc4784382b3df9b5413860d0793ea26cea31
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19:38.07LazydogJanKusanagi: yes: 8.0K -rw-r--r--  1 user user 5.5K May 30 08:32 plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
19:39.22JanKusanagiwell, there should be a "favoriteApps=" key in there, under the config for your Application Launcher / Application Menu widget
19:39.22JanKusanagithat holds the favorites
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19:52.08t4nk_freenodeI tested it manually, and it works, asturm, thnx
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19:54.51Lazydogi'n not seeing that
19:55.03Lazydogrebooted just to make sure
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20:01.00JanKusanagiwell, that is the case with Application Menu
20:01.22JanKusanagiI'd imagine the default Application Launcher does the same
20:01.31JanKusanagiif you don't have that key, that's why your favorites are lost
20:01.39JanKusanagiis Plasma being shut down cleanly?
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20:05.01newbie77Hello everyone. Quick question. Do you recommend any distro? I know that you may receive a lot of questions like this and that choose a distribution is a matter of preference. But I wish to know if there is a common sense of choose... Maybe a distro that is close to the KDE project...
20:06.45newbie77I cannot imagine myself using Linux in a desktop without KDE, so I wish to use some distro that can make me fell more close to the project, maybe contributing in some way...
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20:07.41JanKusanagiMageia!!
20:07.50JanKusanagi😎
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20:09.32newbie77JanKusanagi, thank you for the suggestion. Can you tell me why? By the way, I like fresh software, should I use Cauldron?
20:09.45JanKusanagijust because it's great =)
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20:10.12JanKusanagiCauldron is the development branch, you should use that only if you're comfortable with that (I am)
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20:11.26loisenewbie77: ever tried FreeBSD ? :)
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20:11.32newbie77JanKusanagi, so you use Cauldron as your daily driver?
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20:11.46newbie77loise: Many years ago...
20:12.01JanKusanagiyep
20:12.04loisethat gives you close access to the source if you want to
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20:18.14newbie77loise, cool. But I wish something more "simple". Let me explain better. I'm trying to become a software developer and wish to contribute with KDE in some way. The first way that comes to my mind was use a distribution that really cares and support the KDE project, if it exists, of course.
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21:54.23valorienewbie77: that is a worthy goal
21:54.41valorieafaik all the distros that offer KDE software are supporters
21:54.51valorieso you should choose what you like best
21:55.17valorieuses and is part of the Kubuntu team as well as part of and contributor to the KDE community
21:57.39wskyhey i'm using Konsole 19.12.3 and i'd like it to play a custom sound instead of a generic system beep on notify
21:58.09wskyhm
21:58.16wskyactually nevermind
21:58.23wskythe issue is solved
22:04.06JanKusanagiyou're welcome =)
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22:31.07newbie77valorie, thank you for this information.
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22:34.15valorienewbie77: you will probably end up building some things from source anyway, and that can be done in pretty much any distro
22:34.58asturmit helps when it has up to date packages though
22:35.03valoriethere is a script for that -- however #kde-devel is more likely to have help for you on that issue
22:35.08valorieasturm: yep
22:35.23valoriealthough one can run a vm with the latest neon for testing
22:35.45valoriedoesn't have to be the very latest as the every day workhorse
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