00:00.49 | glick | is antone here running manjaro? |
00:01.56 | glick | anyone |
00:02.03 | glick | not antone lol |
00:04.32 | lod__ | <glick> if i close it will i still get event and email notifications? |
00:04.34 | lod__ | yes |
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00:07.41 | glick | cool thanks yes |
00:09.53 | lod__ | I'm not sure what asturm meant, I think notification settings |
00:10.13 | lod__ | by default it should be "auto" |
00:10.30 | glick | i see |
00:10.31 | glick | thanks |
00:12.27 | prg318 | I have "Play/Pause media playback" under "Media Controller" set to "Meta+Home" but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'm using audacious and I know its MPRIS compatible because I can toggle play/pause with playerctl. Is "Media Contrller" the right place to set this under global shortcuts? |
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00:19.30 | prg318 | actually looks like it must be an audacious issue; qmms seems to be working |
00:25.33 | woodwose | man... why is kmail so damn buggy |
00:25.53 | glick | lol thats the kde way woodwose |
00:26.03 | woodwose | yeah I know |
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00:26.57 | glick | what problem you having wih kmail? |
00:29.25 | JanKusanagi | you're both being quite insulting... |
00:30.52 | glick | JanKusanagi: insulting to who? |
00:31.11 | JanKusanagi | to all developers |
00:31.20 | JanKusanagi | who're providing you with great software for free, BTW |
00:31.25 | glick | relax man |
00:31.32 | glick | i didnt say anything bad about it |
00:31.44 | glick | even so, its software...not someones mother |
00:31.45 | JanKusanagi | you did |
00:31.51 | JanKusanagi | it's someone's hard work |
00:31.52 | woodwose | it keeps crashing while trying to add accounts |
00:32.01 | JanKusanagi | insulting someone's hard work is insulting |
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00:32.07 | glick | i wrote some software too |
00:32.12 | glick | insult it all you want |
00:32.19 | glick | i dont give a damn, its some instructions to a cpu |
00:32.21 | JanKusanagi | I'm not like you |
00:32.29 | JanKusanagi | it's someone's WORK |
00:32.41 | madprops | is it me or Nate seems to be doing the majority of bug fixing? Almost seems like a one man operation |
00:32.57 | JanKusanagi | is it you xDD |
00:33.03 | JanKusanagi | *it is you |
00:33.05 | woodwose | it should become a 100 man operation |
00:33.18 | JanKusanagi | pay 100 salaries and it will |
00:33.31 | woodwose | I 'll pay with kudos on IRC |
00:33.48 | JanKusanagi | sure, that will allow people to work full time in what you want =) |
00:33.56 | woodwose | <3 is all they need |
00:34.22 | woodwose | btw... |
00:35.39 | woodwose | that bad font rendering wasn't a pebkac but some issues because of the hidpi handling |
00:36.08 | woodwose | for the time being exporting QT_ENABLE_HIGHDPI_SCALING=0 fixes it |
00:36.13 | woodwose | phew... |
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00:40.50 | woodwose | keeps crashing: "could not convert value of setting "authentication" to required type." |
00:40.55 | woodwose | ok, no email for me |
00:41.34 | woodwose | because pretty much any other email clients aren't tolerable alternatives... |
00:41.34 | JanKusanagi | re: stupid uberpowerful creepy GMail, some light â https://euroquis.nl//kde/2020/01/13/google.html |
00:41.41 | woodwose | even if they work |
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00:55.22 | woodwose | this is just sad |
00:56.30 | JanKusanagi | send your thanks to the G empire |
00:56.37 | woodwose | has nothing to do with google |
00:56.41 | woodwose | I don't use google |
00:57.02 | JanKusanagi | ah, you don't? |
00:57.07 | woodwose | yes I don't |
00:57.10 | JanKusanagi | then that link wasn't for you xDDD |
00:57.15 | woodwose | I use fastmail, mailbox.org, and run my own mail server |
00:57.18 | JanKusanagi | (and my congrats for that) |
00:57.31 | woodwose | based on postfix, dovecot and rspamd |
00:58.11 | woodwose | JanKusanagi, can you recommend any fancy-gui (not mutt, neo-mutt, apline, or any other ncurses based) email client? |
00:58.17 | woodwose | kmail is a pile of crap |
00:58.30 | woodwose | thunderbird is even worse |
00:58.42 | JanKusanagi | I clearly can't, considering... xD |
00:58.43 | woodwose | *alpine |
00:58.50 | glick | thunderbird woodwose? |
00:58.55 | JanKusanagi | for the record, KMail is no crap |
00:59.06 | woodwose | JanKusanagi, I've been using kmaiil since 2009 |
00:59.19 | woodwose | akonadi is worse than crap |
00:59.25 | JanKusanagi | and you still have no respect for its developers, how nice... |
00:59.32 | JanKusanagi | ask for a refund |
00:59.47 | woodwose | yeah, how nice to just push changes without any prior testing |
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01:00.33 | JanKusanagi | yes, I'm sure you know exactly how things are developed and tested |
01:00.38 | glick | anyone use Ring for video calls? |
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01:10.41 | woodwose | another thing which is totally frustrating is... |
01:11.19 | woodwose | why do config files have to clutter up .config/ .local/share ... |
01:11.38 | woodwose | put all the akonadi crap into one akonadi folder... |
01:12.22 | woodwose | trying to do a clean restart end always up becoming a puzzle |
01:12.30 | woodwose | +s |
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01:16.33 | mek42-M | Is there any content that konqueror is unable to deliver? I'm ttying to decide if I need/want to install another browser |
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01:17.52 | woodwose | yeah use a proper www-browser like firefox |
01:18.20 | woodwose | afaik konki has no sandboxing |
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01:32.07 | josef64 | yes, or falkon |
01:32.22 | josef64 | https://www.falkon.org/ |
01:32.57 | sarnold | "(released 19 March 2019)" |
01:33.03 | sarnold | not an encouraging sign for a browser |
01:34.14 | josef64 | it works with latest (Qt 5.14) QtWebEngine |
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01:34.49 | sarnold | ah, that's better |
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01:36.05 | woodwose | still no sandboxing |
01:36.19 | woodwose | if you use it, don't enable js |
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01:46.42 | woodwose | I take back some of my criticism, it's "just" an issue with the account wizard, configuring accounts manually works |
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01:52.07 | _Random_ | hey guys im not much of a techie, can you help me please.. I would like to run "anydesk" at login from kde plasma on linux open-rc pc. |
01:52.58 | _Random_ | ive added it to "rc-update add anydesk default" |
01:53.27 | _Random_ | ans eselect rc start anydesk |
01:53.57 | _Random_ | all looks fine but it's noot loading when plasma opens at auto login |
01:54.31 | sarnold | is anydesk an application that you would run as a user in an X11 session? or is a system service? |
01:54.32 | _Random_ | how i can have auto open at login on plasma.. Thanks in advance |
01:54.46 | sarnold | my impression of openrc is that it is a system service manager, not a user session manager thingy |
01:54.57 | _Random_ | true |
01:55.08 | _Random_ | as stated im not much of a techie |
01:55.30 | sarnold | well, you also likely have more experience with both anydesk and openrc than I do :) |
01:55.34 | _Random_ | btw Thank you in advance ! :) |
01:55.35 | sarnold | plasma, too, heh |
01:55.46 | _Random_ | LOL |
01:56.29 | _Random_ | there must be a way of adding application to auto start with plasma |
01:56.55 | JanKusanagi | of course, right there in Plasma's system settings |
01:57.43 | JanKusanagi | you can find it really easily if you search for "autos" in the search field... |
01:58.04 | _Random_ | JanKusanagi: thanks |
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02:00.43 | _Random_ | JanKusanagi: I cant see "add application" |
02:01.10 | JanKusanagi | there's a "Add Program" right at the bottom |
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02:14.11 | _Random_ | JanKusanagi: thanks, was on phone & now back, this seems to be about file association |
02:14.29 | JanKusanagi | it's not |
02:14.39 | JanKusanagi | unless you didn't go where I said xD |
02:14.39 | _Random_ | nor can I find anydesk as its not a default app |
02:15.00 | _Random_ | settings |
02:15.02 | sarnold | I wouldn't be surprised if whatever this dialog box is is looking for .desktop files in The Usual Places |
02:15.13 | _Random_ | ahh |
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02:15.23 | JanKusanagi | it shows the item from the application launcher |
02:15.27 | JanKusanagi | *items |
02:15.28 | sarnold | does your anydesk application have a ,desktop file somewhere where these kinds of programs would look for them? |
02:16.11 | JanKusanagi | if the program in question isn't available via the application launcher, one just needs to add it there, by right-clicking said application launcher and selecting "Edit applications" |
02:16.35 | JanKusanagi | then it will be available for autostarting easily (not that there aren't other ways...) |
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02:34.48 | _Random_ | do i need to include "%" |
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04:12.01 | VLMC | Hi, is Plasma Mobile supported here? |
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04:20.08 | VLMC | I'm stuck at "adding android system image to installation ... " while flashing |
04:20.36 | JanKusanagi | probably better to ask in #plasma, but it's also probably not the best time of day |
04:25.05 | VLMC | thanks, posted there |
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08:47.38 | pepo | vladimiroff-M, kscreenlocker |
08:48.37 | vladimiroff-M | <pepo "vladimiroff, kscreenlocker"> Thanks. |
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10:27.57 | m1cl | how to disable baloo_file ? |
10:28.10 | m1cl | what is the daemon called? |
10:28.32 | m1cl | I switched to gnome, but it seems like there are still kde processes running |
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10:30.40 | rindolf | m1cl: hi |
10:31.05 | rindolf | m1cl: can you use htop / etc? |
10:31.30 | m1cl | yes |
10:31.45 | m1cl | it seemed like kde5init was running, dono why |
10:31.59 | m1cl | also the krunner is running... |
10:33.06 | m1cl | it seems like kde took over my machine. |
10:34.00 | m1cl | does it have anything to do with sddm? |
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10:43.10 | glick | krunner is supposed to be running |
10:43.16 | glick | its kde's search engine |
10:48.31 | m1cl | got it but krunner is also running in gnome |
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11:52.14 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
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12:17.43 | rindolf | BluesKaj: meow |
12:17.48 | rindolf | BluesKaj: sup? |
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12:34.47 | Tuor | What would you do KDE neon or kubuntu with ppa? |
12:36.05 | BluesKaj | hey rindolf , just coffee atm, you? |
12:37.29 | rindolf | BluesKaj: released some new versions of my https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPAN dists |
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14:42.21 | Aebian | Hi, is there a style guide available? I want to edit the spacing of the global menu items but unsure which config file controls this |
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14:42.50 | Aebian | Google didn't help me much with this so far |
14:43.02 | JanKusanagi | Google is not anyone's friend =) |
14:43.25 | JanKusanagi | nto sure that menu's appearance can be configured via config files, but probably better to ask in #plasma or #kde-devel |
14:44.32 | Aebian | it can, this way for e.g. you can add spaces between the system tray icons |
14:44.39 | Aebian | ok |
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17:00.30 | Aebian | hi, I have kde running and notcied again that my mouse clicks again are not recognized by kde. They are detected via evtest and xmodmap -pp also shows 1:1 the same layout. The issue arrise when my computer is locked for at least 1.5 hours and the lid is closed. Any ideas what could be the cause? X11 is used and KDE is 5.14.5 it seems. Oh yeah and OS is Debian Buster |
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17:01.11 | Aebian | if I do a logout of my session everything works again |
17:01.21 | Aebian | I don't even need a restart |
17:01.52 | Aebian | but I don't want to logout every time. |
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17:05.59 | Aebian | a restart of kwin or plasmashell doesn't solve it either, a logout and login does |
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17:08.20 | JanKusanagi | (*Plasma* is 5.14.5) |
17:08.49 | JanKusanagi | is that a real mouse, or a laptop's thing? |
17:08.57 | JanKusanagi | touchpad, whatever... |
17:08.58 | Aebian | laptop touchpad |
17:09.01 | Aebian | yes |
17:09.23 | JanKusanagi | ah, then replugging is out of the question |
17:09.30 | JanKusanagi | the cursor still moves? |
17:09.37 | Aebian | yup, I can move around |
17:09.51 | Aebian | just not left click |
17:09.58 | Aebian | right click seems to work fine |
17:10.06 | JanKusanagi | hmm, interesting |
17:10.51 | Aebian | same situation if I plug a external mouse |
17:11.11 | Aebian | no left click possible, if I now logout and login I can again |
17:11.33 | Aebian | I could update and see if the issue comes back |
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17:12.59 | Aebian | just gonna do that yeah |
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18:16.01 | harelu | hey peeps, so im trying to figure out this extremely weird bug that's been annoying me for weeks. Its best described here: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=133362 and thats the only place i have seen the thing mentioned online |
18:16.15 | harelu | anyone else experiences or hopefully fixed this weirdness? |
18:16.29 | harelu | I tried switching cursor themes, graphic drivers, resolution, dpi and any other options i could find, but nothing helped |
18:18.22 | dms-M | It is nice that you have it occasionally. I have cases when half of the backbuffer goes black and everything flicker like a mad |
18:19.03 | harelu | oh yeah, its not really just occasional, happens basically 99% of the time when the cursor changes shapes, like from arrow -> hand cursor |
18:19.47 | harelu | its so annoying because i subconsciously think the actual cursor jumped a few pixels away, but it doesnt, it resets to the original spot after the little milisecond jump lol |
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18:30.27 | Peanut | Hi - I'm on Kubuntu (KDE 5.62.0) and am looking for a way to get the virtual desktop pager to switch desktops using the (to me) customary cltr-alt-left/right keys. But I can't find any way to configure such a shortcut key? |
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18:37.37 | jankusanagi_ | there's no "KDE 5.62", that's the version of Frameworks, but the version of Plasma would probably be much more interesting =) |
18:38.05 | jankusanagi_ | the shortcuts for that are located in Plasma's system settings, under Global Shortcuts |
18:38.26 | jankusanagi_ | under the "KWin" component |
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18:38.47 | Peanut | Hi jankusanagi_, thanks. This would be plasma 4:5.16.5, or at least that's the version number of the Ubuntu package. |
18:39.05 | jankusanagi_ | well, the "4:" is not really part of the version, that's something from your distribution's packaging |
18:39.16 | jankusanagi_ | the ideal is tu just look at KInfoCenter |
18:39.43 | jankusanagi_ | *to just |
18:40.39 | Peanut | Ok, I have kinfocenter installed. KDE Plasma Version: 5.16.5, KDE framework 5.62.0, QT 5.12.4 |
18:41.01 | Peanut | I'm also at the 'global shortcuts' page. Where would swapping virtual desktops go in there? |
18:41.10 | jankusanagi_ | as I said, the KWin component |
18:41.24 | jankusanagi_ | KWin is Plasma's window manager, handles this too |
18:41.49 | jankusanagi_ | there are a gazillion desktop-related shortcuts in there |
18:41.54 | Peanut | jankusanagi_: Awesome, found it, thanks :-) |
18:42.01 | jankusanagi_ | yw =) |
18:43.04 | Peanut | And it works. Sorry, coming from Unity in the past I'm not too clear yet on how KDE/Plasma/KWin integrate, and I couldn't find this anywhere in the documentation of the desktop pager. |
18:44.28 | jankusanagi_ | IIRC, the switching shortcuts could be changed from there too, in the past |
18:44.43 | jankusanagi_ | at some point that was changed |
18:44.55 | Peanut | No, there is only 'This shortcut will activate the applet as though it had been clicked'. |
18:45.21 | jankusanagi_ | no, not in the config of the pager, but in the "Configure Virtual Desktops" window that also opens via right-click on the pager |
18:45.45 | Peanut | Yeah, I had looked there too, before asking. |
18:46.05 | jankusanagi_ | but those settings were redisigned (quite nicely, I might add), and the shortcuts part was apparently lost (at least for now) |
18:46.14 | jankusanagi_ | might be back in Plasma 5.18, who knows |
18:47.53 | jankusanagi_ | still, that only showed the basic "switch to next/prev desktop" shortcuts, while in the actual Global Shortcuts config, you have all kinds of shortcuts |
18:48.07 | jankusanagi_ | to switch to previous, to next, to the one up, down, left, to the 8th... |
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19:15.37 | pingufan | Hello. How can I embed rar into KDE (Plasma5) to give it a GUI ? My friend needs it and has massive problems with commandline usage of RAR. |
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19:17.14 | asturm | ark has rar support |
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19:59.11 | ArgentWolf | Hello! Is this the place to ask about building KDE software? I'd like to install Ikona, but it doesn't seem to have any build instructions. |
19:59.34 | asturm | ArgentWolf: I guess it will have a CMakeLists.txt file |
19:59.56 | ArgentWolf | So how do I use that? Just run cmake? |
20:00.26 | asturm | go to source dir and `mkdir build && cd build && cmake ../` this will create your makefile to build |
20:00.37 | ArgentWolf | Ohh, okay! |
20:01.17 | ArgentWolf | Hmm, looks like I'm missing stuff. Is there a list of dependencies anywhere? |
20:01.26 | asturm | the messages should be clear |
20:02.00 | asturm | although they won't directly translate to package names they should usually guide you into the right direction |
20:02.37 | ArgentWolf | Looks like I need the Kirigami dev package... would be nice to have that in the readme somewhere. (: |
20:02.40 | ArgentWolf | Thanks! |
20:06.43 | asturm | I find cmake to be quite readable |
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20:16.52 | ArgentWolf | Hm, it built fine, but now it's failing, saying something about QtQuick.Controls not being installed. Even after I installed qtquickcontrols2-5-dev (which seems to be the only version in the repository). |
20:17.06 | asturm | you need v1 not v2 |
20:18.44 | ArgentWolf | Oh, huh! |
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20:19.02 | ArgentWolf | Hm, I don't see a v1 in here at all. |
20:19.10 | asturm | a lot of applications need it so it must be there |
20:19.24 | asturm | should be called qtquickcontrols |
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20:19.58 | asturm | and you actually need the main package, not -dev, it is a runtime dep |
20:20.07 | ArgentWolf | Oh, okay. Huh. |
20:20.20 | ArgentWolf | I've found qml-module-qtquick-controls, but it's already installed! |
20:20.39 | ArgentWolf | The error message seems to indicate it needs v2.13 specifically... |
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