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02:01.22mikemoore-MIs there a competent yaourt replacement on arch linux?  I've tried yay, pakku, and pikaur, and they're all super underwhelming
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02:02.30jankusanagi_needless to say, question for Archlinux channels
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10:11.48jaggzhow do I pop up the config window for krfb (desktop sharing)?  Can't find it anywhere.
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10:23.12SGOravalike Menu > Settings > Configure ...?
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10:24.27jaggzSGOrava, can't find it there.  turns out I had to kill krfb and then re-running it works.. it had broken
10:24.37jaggznow it doesn't accept the pw I just set for unattended access though
10:24.54jaggzI set it but a test connection from remote gives a pw failure
10:26.09jaggzgot it!  worked this time.  done. Now I may go take care of family who must wait for this sort of thing.
10:26.11jaggzthanks
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10:42.37MichaelOFhi all. plasma 5.12.8 on OpenSuse Leap 15.1. No autostarted progs. "Start with empty session". Since upgrade from 15.0 to 15.1, immediately after plasma login  gpg2 asks me to unlock my gpg key.  repating, no chance to cancel, As this is new ion 15.1, any hints how to find out which program triggers gpg2 to do this?
10:44.51MichaelOFdialogue shows in caption [PID]@hostname@localdomain, but these PIDs in ps- ef always have PPID = 1, so not helpful
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11:01.08ExtraCrispyHello.Using i3 as wm.Discover wont launch.
11:01.58ExtraCrispyNotification gives no information.
11:05.18ExtraCrispyplasma-discover from terminal outputs this https://pastebin.com/raw/N5LHus6f
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13:04.06neobrain_Hey. I just set up a CalDAV calendar on my server using Radicale, but I can't get it recognized by KOrganizer. The same calendar resource can be accessed just fine from an Android app I tested though. Any ideas on how to fix that?
13:06.13neobrain_For reference, when adding the calendar I selected "DAV groupware resource", then entered my username and password, then selected "Configure this resource manually", then attempted to add the CalDAV server manually. But once I enter the Remote URL and hit "Fetch [collections]", KOrganizer just sits there for a couple of seconds until I eventually get an error saying "There was a problem with the request,
13:06.19neobrain_HTTP error (0)"
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13:14.09neobrain_Hmm seems to be this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386985 unfortunate timing :/
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15:15.55gonssalHi there. Just upgraded to Kubuntu 19.10 and now Akonadi won't start, so I can't use kmail. The error is: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/user/1001/akonadi/default/mysql.socket' (2)'
15:16.01gonssalTried disabling apparmor and some other things to no avail. The socket file doesn't exist and is not created for some reason.
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15:17.21jankusanagi_your user ID is 1001, not 1000? do you have more than one user?
15:18.56gonssalIt is 1001. I only have a standard user
15:23.31gonssalIs there any way to use Kmail without Akonadi? Just IMAP
15:23.36jankusanagi_and "mysqld" is running?
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15:23.53jankusanagi_I don't think you can use KMail without Akonadi, no
15:24.00gonssalYes, it's running and working
15:24.11jankusanagi_you can use "akonadictl" from a Konsole window to check various things
15:24.31gonssalI've been trying to fix this for like 3 hours already
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15:27.05gonssalTo check what for example?
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15:28.08kinesismy volume up / volume down Fn combonation doesn't work and my volume controls are not working right.. what is likely wrong?
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15:32.02jankusanagi_to check status, to start it and see what error messages appear, etc
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15:35.21BluesKajkinesis,  please explain " volume controls are not working right"
15:36.19BluesKaj!details | kinesis
15:37.18gonssalWell, no more Kmail for me I guess, thanks anyway
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15:38.36mgnad78ok i found out the issue and maybe someone can lead me a little further
15:39.08asturmgonssal: kmail is just a frontend to akonadi
15:39.11mgnad78while XDG_DATA_DIRS is set after kde startup XDG_RUNTIME_DIR isn't set
15:39.40mgnad78sddm only startplasma-x11
15:39.48BluesKajgonssal, do you need an email database?
15:40.11mgnad78anyone got an idea why it isn't set ?
15:40.46gonssalI just need to use my IMAP accounts, but akonadi won't start so I can't use Kmail
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16:13.40fridlmueHi there, I got a new, very wide screen. KDE (Plasma 5.12.8 on openSUSE Leap 15.1) adopted to it very nicely and I'm really happy with that! Now I would like arrange three windows next to each other. I'd like it like the snappy way with one window on the left half and one on the right half when you drag them to the side of the window, but with
16:13.41fridlmuepressing e.g. a shortcut to arrange the window on the left third, the right third, or the middle. Is there a way to achieve that for a "average computer user"?
16:14.41fridlmueI found something about Tiling, but I'm not sure that this is really what I want to have.
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16:24.55xyquadrat-Mfridlmue: Hi, have you already seen this? https://github.com/mpartel/kwin-thirds
16:25.11xyquadrat-MIt sounds like the script you'd like to have - although I don't know if it still works
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16:27.02fridlmuexyquadrat-M: Yeah, this looks great! Thanks for the Help! I'll try that!
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16:28.02jankusanagi_or look for TIL3R in the "Get new..." window from KWin Scripts module in Plasma's system settings
16:29.13jankusanagi_it's from 2014 though, might not work correctly with current KWin, but worth a try
16:29.54jankusanagi_well, one of the first comments says it worked fine on Plasma 5.3
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16:33.58fridlmuethe kwin-thirds did the job and it's a dream :-)  Thanks!
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17:41.20AndyHDare there known issues with aqbanking? The event "update account" is disabled after the last update in kmymoney
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17:44.39jankusanagi_probably related to the PSD2 thing
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17:56.39AndyHDok thank you
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18:02.16jankusanagi_I guess since the directive requires bank customers to do certain things "for their security" (like requiring a friggin phone...), updated programs will have additional steps
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18:51.49kinghatdoes search in dolphin actually work for anyone? ive never really had it work for me. i have yakuake installed and im searching home dir for yakuake files. also i have no idea whats going on with the quotes here: https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/3fc44d9700068096/Peek%202019-10-27%2013-51.mp4
18:54.35ismailof-Mit kind of works for me
18:55.01SGOravasearching filenames in actual folders works for me
18:55.03jankusanagi_works fine over here (with no Baloo)
18:55.06ismailof-Mbut it took me a while to configure which folders to exclude from indexed (mainly develop folders)
18:55.20SGOravaI never expected some search apart from grep to search inside files
18:55.32ismailof-Mon those old regular non-indexed search works well on an SSD
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18:56.34kinghatnot sure what im doing wrong here.
18:56.38jankusanagi_to search inside files one can use KFind (again, without any Baloo-based indexing)
18:57.01ismailof-M"the thing with the quotes": https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412952, and  https://phabricator.kde.org/D24422
18:57.22ismailof-Mis it inside a hidden folder
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18:58.08ismailof-MI meant: are the files you're looking for inside a hidden folder?
19:00.09ismailof-Mthe search function with baloo must be improved. Most people either disable it or just suffer from it, which I can understand, but it's a pitty really
19:01.09ismailof-Mbtw kinghat , nice theme there!
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19:03.50kinghathttps://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/dmx1wy/kde_plasma_dark_theme_with_gradient/
19:05.23kinghatismailof-M: i guess they probably are hidden files
19:05.39kinghatim sure theres a setting for that
19:05.56jankusanagi_if you want Yakuake config files they are under ~/.config/
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19:06.11jankusanagi_and other user data files are under ~/.local/, as always
19:06.53kinghatya i found the rc manually but i wanted to find all of them.
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19:07.18kinghati figured if you had hidden files to be shown that it would automagically search those as well.
19:07.40jankusanagi_all of what?
19:08.07kinghatall yakuake files
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19:12.38ismailof-Mthe thing is that with baloo, your home dir is indexed, but the hidden folders within are not
19:12.54ismailof-Mso it does only the indexed search
19:13.48ismailof-Mcurrently it's not possible to combine both of them, but it should be the way to go
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19:21.11kinghatjankusanagi_: can kfind be set as the default in dolphins search?
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19:24.26jankusanagi_it's right there in the "More search tools" button
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19:25.01kinghatya but how to get it to use the native dolphin search interface so you dont have to open another window
19:25.18jankusanagi_and you could add KFind as an option to the "open with..." for folders
19:25.31jankusanagi_if it was inside Dolphin it wouldn't be KFind, would it? xD
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19:26.06jankusanagi_anyway, Dolphin's integrated search can also search contents (even without indexing), so...
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19:26.32kinghatdoesnt dolphin use baloo?
19:26.45kinghathow to get dolphin to search hidden files as well?
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19:28.11jankusanagi_I think you'll have to file a feature request in a bug report
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19:29.02kinghat👌
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19:31.32ismailof-M<kinghat "how to get dolphin to search hid"> there is an option to activate it
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19:32.33ismailof-MI tried to enable it at first, but have to disable again because there where so much "noise" from hidden and settings folder
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19:33.08ismailof-Manyway you can try it and see if it works for you
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19:33.32kinghati mean is it under the control settings in dolphin or is it a system setting?
19:34.03ismailof-Mbalooctl config set hidden yes
19:34.23ismailof-Mit is not exposed on the ui, you have to use that command
19:34.29kinghatoh
19:34.57ismailof-Mand probably you will need to log out the session and in again to make it work
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19:35.36xyquadrat-Mbe aware that this will make your baloo index quite a bit bigger - which makes sense, but should be kept in mind anyways
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19:37.51kinghatxyquadrat-M: where is that index file located so i can monitor it?
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19:38.30jankusanagi_hint: ~/.local/
19:38.40xyquadrat-Myou can do balooctl status to see the size of the index file
19:38.40kinghatbaloo status as well
19:38.49kinghat👌
19:38.52jankusanagi_also ~/.cache/, you know the standard directories
19:39.24xyquadrat-Mand balooctl monitor to see which files are being indexed
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19:45.02madpropsis there a kde way to make external ext4 hard drivers writeable by my non-root user?
19:45.54kinghatthanks for the help guys!
19:47.41jankusanagi_madprops: you just need to chown the root of that partition
19:47.45xyquadrat-Mmadprops Hmm, that doesn't sound like a thing that should be done on a DE level. Generally you should be able to mount a harddrive and then modifiy the permissions of individual files as root (e.g. chown them to your user), which then persists across re-mounts
19:47.50jankusanagi_and just need to to it once
19:48.19xyquadrat-MAnd you can of course use Konsole to do that, which would probably as close to "the kde way" to do it as possible
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21:05.21kinesisMy sound when headphones plugged in comes out the speakrs and headphones simultaneously and no matter what I adjust in settings it won't stop doing that.
21:05.35kinesisso sound is broken in kde otherwise
21:06.41SGOravathat can be pulseaudio and your broken HW probably
21:07.02SGOravaI had similar issue when the automatic switching did not work on my laptop
21:07.12SGOravathe solution was to disable the automatic switching
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21:09.05SGOravago to /etc/pulse/default.pa and comment line with load-module module-switch-on-port-available
21:09.09SGOravait worked for me
21:09.32SGOravabut it is different story if it is doing what you said with usb headphones
21:09.48SGOravaoh, and you will have to switch things manually
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21:27.35kinesisi tried commenting it out but it didn't work though?
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21:27.48kinesisok disable automatic switching,, will look for it
21:28.31kinesisyeah did that, sound still comes out of headphones and speakers simultaneously
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21:30.22SGOravarestart pulseaudio (pulseaudio -k)
21:30.32SGOravaat worst just mute the speakers
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21:33.02SGOravathis is my experience with my laptop which is probably falling apart but still struggles to work for me
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22:03.16madpropshow can I make it so the lose focus effect on windows is never triggered?
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23:03.23oprypinmadprops, i'd think that focus is something at the X11 level. a window manager needs to tell X11 which window is focused, but then a bunch of events happen together
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