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| 04:45.09 | kinghat | if i have chrome because i need it for PWAs, but use ff as main(default) browser, will links in the chrome PWAs always open in chrome? no matter what the default browser is set to? |
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| 09:15.18 | Arlas-M | hey do you know what is about the development of konversation 2 ? |
| 09:15.19 | Arlas-M | would love matrix support there and replace riot.im |
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| 09:45.56 | xaver | kinghat: no clue what a pwa is but take a look at file extensions. default browser is for links like https://xyz |
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| 10:02.53 | nenadandric-M | Matrix is planned in Koversation 2, but I have no idea of current status |
| 10:02.54 | nenadandric-M | https://blogs.kde.org/2017/09/05/konversation-2x-2018-new-user-interface-matrix-support-mobile-version |
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| 10:48.48 | BluesKaj_ | hey folks |
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| 12:18.22 | kinghat | xaver: PWA |
| 12:18.39 | kinghat | err progressive web app |
| 12:19.08 | kinghat | the links I was taking about were http |
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| 12:20.25 | xaver | you can put a pwa into electron - i think you can maybe custimuize the link handler - nerver nedded it |
| 12:20.55 | Arlas-M | i can't find someone of matrix.org |
| 12:20.55 | Arlas-M | and he can't join my room and can't find me |
| 12:20.56 | Arlas-M | do you know why? |
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| 12:43.08 | Taoki | Just to make sure: Will KDe 5.16 be fully compatible with existing Plasma and Aurorae themes? Also does the lock screen retain the ability to use the same wallpaper types as the desktop, such as slideshows / etc? |
| 12:43.15 | Taoki | I'm seeing a lot of major changes so just making sure. |
| 12:52.06 | kinghat | xaver: if you use standard browser you can use extensions on them. |
| 12:55.03 | kinghat | im also running many PWAs or websites in windowed mode to mock PWAs. |
| 12:58.01 | xaver | myabe add a browser-switch.sh and trigger it and parse the url - should work or xdg supports it already |
| 13:00.22 | kinghat | im not really sure what you mean by that. |
| 13:00.52 | xaver | xdg is the "tool" behind default browser and it supports some settings |
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| 13:03.12 | kinghat | ah. i will have to look into it. |
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| 13:18.51 | jankusanagi_ | Taoki: AFAIK, *Plasma* 5.16 doesn't break compatibility with any existing themes, on the contrary; it fixes compatibility with some Plasma4-times stuff |
| 13:19.34 | jankusanagi_ | in other words, no regressions expected in Plasma 5.16 in this area |
| 13:20.51 | xaver | is the gretter fixed? froze multiple times in last month (also some other user reported it in channel). killing the greeter helped |
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| 13:22.40 | Taoki | Thanks for clarifying :) |
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| 14:27.27 | mzajc | I have a slight problem with KDE Plasma. Whenever I start my laptop with an external screen connected, window decorations and some other buttons become oversized. I can temporarily fix it by restarting plasmashell and kwin_x11. Is there any permanent fix for this? |
| 14:28.46 | Zaister | I have two machines that I remote into with x2go, locally, I'd use Plasma, but since that does not work with x2go, I use lxqt. However, on one machine I regularly get multiple crash reports ("ldeinit5 closed unexpectedly") when I start a KDA app such as Dolphin or Konsole, but I don't get these crashes on the other machine. Here's a backtrace from one of these crashes: https://pastebin.com/vYnwcahV |
| 14:29.01 | Zaister | *kdeinit5 |
| 14:34.57 | Zaister | seems to be tied to thumbnail previews |
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| 14:45.20 | mzajc | anyone knows anything about the issue on 16:27 |
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| 14:46.07 | Zaister | is your main screen 4k? |
| 14:46.33 | Zaister | or rather do you screens have different dpi? |
| 14:46.37 | mzajc | no, both of the screens are the same |
| 14:46.55 | Zaister | hm, weird |
| 14:46.59 | mzajc | well yes, one has higher dpi |
| 14:48.08 | Zaister | Ah, I think the window manager cannot assign different dpi values toindividual screens |
| 14:48.31 | Zaister | For example, I have a 4K screen with a higher dpi and a normal 1080p second screen. |
| 14:48.35 | mzajc | gotcha |
| 14:48.45 | mzajc | but how do I explicitly define the dpi? |
| 14:49.04 | Zaister | I have configured X for my main screen, and windows on my second screen have oversized window decoration because of that |
| 14:49.24 | Zaister | you can configure dpi in the fonts panel |
| 14:49.57 | mzajc | alright, let's see if this does the trick |
| 14:50.33 | Zaister | I guess if your screen have differenty physical dpi values, you can't avoid that with X11 |
| 14:50.55 | Zaister | Wayland is supposed to address that, but I have not worked with it yet |
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| 14:54.53 | mzajc | Zaister: alright, seems like this worked |
| 14:54.57 | mzajc | thanks a bunch |
| 14:59.01 | Zaister | cool |
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| 16:39.29 | gschanuel2 | hey there! |
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| 16:41.22 | gschanuel | I'm having a "problem" with my typing skills. Looks like after I release SHIFT, it is still "working" for a fraction of a second |
| 16:41.48 | gschanuel | so ":q" becomes ":Q" |
| 16:42.22 | gschanuel | is it even possible? |
| 16:42.38 | gschanuel | like a "key release delay" |
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| 16:43.28 | gschanuel | it really is a fraction of a second |
| 16:43.52 | gschanuel | maybe I have to delay my typing a fraction of a second |
| 16:44.46 | jankusanagi_ | I've never experienced that |
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| 16:48.54 | gschanuel | :Q:q:q:q:q:q:Q:q:q:q:q:Q:q:q:q:q:q:Q:q:q |
| 16:49.04 | gschanuel | it must be my fault |
| 16:49.41 | gschanuel | i may have to delay my typing.. |
| 16:50.08 | gschanuel | release shift faster :P |
| 16:51.44 | gschanuel | I guess the only way to really find out if it is my fault, keyboards fault or something else by recording in slo-mo |
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| 16:54.14 | JohnGavr | hello guys |
| 16:55.04 | JohnGavr | can we change in kde the system tray icons? like battery icon or networkmanager icon |
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| 16:57.47 | jankusanagi_ | in Plasma, those icons depend on the current Plasma theme |
| 16:58.17 | jankusanagi_ | (some of them, not everything that can appear on the systray, of course) |
| 16:59.07 | Fuchs | yeah, you can override them |
| 16:59.41 | Fuchs | ~/.local/share/plasma/desktoptheme/default/icons/ (on most installations) |
| 17:00.07 | Fuchs | you can place .svg(z) there with the same name as the original, which should override the icon. That only goes for the plasma ones, third party apps usually work differently |
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| 17:03.08 | JohnGavr | Fuchs, thank you very much ... i am looking for that a half hour |
| 17:03.18 | Fuchs | welcome |
| 17:03.25 | JohnGavr | Then i remember the irc power haha |
| 17:03.56 | JohnGavr | and one more question anybody knows apple theme? |
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| 17:11.03 | xyquadrat-M | JohnGavr: What do you mean by apple theme? Do you want a theme for Plasma that looks similar to MacOS? |
| 17:11.36 | JohnGavr | xyquadrat-M, yeah... plasma theme |
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| 17:12.23 | CHADMIN-M | I did something like that recently |
| 17:12.54 | CHADMIN-M | uploaded an image: Screenshot_20190606_180818.png (3767KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/gEJPZkSvVguqDrkFeUoexwGy > |
| 17:12.55 | CHADMIN-M | uploaded an image: Screenshot_20190606_180952.png (3961KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mdGEHWlxfNYyVUotnsjRmeQT > |
| 17:13.04 | xyquadrat-M | JohnGavr: This post might be helpful: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/b6o678/kde_macos_theme/ |
| 17:13.26 | xyquadrat-M | CHADMIN: Oh, very nice! |
| 17:13.42 | xyquadrat-M | Maybe you could tell John what themes/icons/etc you used for that rice |
| 17:14.08 | CHADMIN-M | yes one sec I'm trying to find the links |
| 17:15.06 | CHADMIN-M | Font is san-francisco and sf-mono for terminal, most of the theme (aurorae, color scheme, plasma theme, etc) is in this repo https://github.com/vinceliuice/McMojave-kde |
| 17:15.15 | CHADMIN-M | for widget engine I'm using kvantum |
| 17:15.50 | CHADMIN-M | dock and panel are latte-dock, I removed the default panel completely |
| 17:16.02 | CHADMIN-M | https://github.com/vinceliuice/McMojave-circle icons are here |
| 17:16.19 | CHADMIN-M | gtk theme is here https://github.com/vinceliuice/Mojave-gtk-theme |
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| 17:17.12 | CHADMIN-M | cursor is default adwaita, top left plasmoit is plasma5-active-window-control |
| 17:17.24 | CHADMIN-M | That seems to be it |
| 17:17.37 | CHADMIN-M | All of this can be found in inbuilt plasma 5 catalogues "get more themes" buttons |
| 17:17.45 | CHADMIN-M | except for kvantum theme that you have to install manually |
| 17:18.56 | JohnGavr | yeah i find all of them, only the tray icons i have to change |
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| 17:19.58 | CHADMIN-M | Check out other themes from this author, they are amazing |
| 17:20.16 | JohnGavr | yeah i will check |
| 17:20.19 | CHADMIN-M | I love all of them, qogir, vimix, canta |
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| 17:25.43 | JohnGavr | kde is love :P |
| 17:26.30 | d42 | kde is life |
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| 17:27.45 | d42 | i've ended up with doing my thing from all the themes around tho :v |
| 17:29.06 | JohnGavr | d42, now you must make your unique theme :P |
| 17:30.47 | d42 | it was purely procrastination effort, releasing it would be somewhat shitty for the original makers since i don't even know what's from where :vv |
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| 18:22.40 | JohnGavr | Guys one more problem, after that plasma theme, i cannot resize the windows |
| 18:23.33 | rindolf | JohnGavr: hi |
| 18:23.49 | JohnGavr | hello rindolf |
| 18:23.53 | rindolf | JohnGavr: using the mouse? |
| 18:24.39 | JohnGavr | yeah |
| 18:25.08 | rindolf | JohnGavr: ah |
| 18:25.32 | rindolf | JohnGavr: can you use a different theme? |
| 18:25.38 | JohnGavr | shortcut Alt + rmb it works |
| 18:26.10 | JohnGavr | in other themes work :P |
| 18:26.55 | rindolf | JohnGavr: ah |
| 18:28.21 | JohnGavr | rindolf, some settings problem is now, i will find it :P |
| 18:28.58 | rindolf | JohnGavr: good luck |
| 18:29.19 | JohnGavr | thank you rindolf , i will need it |
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| 18:43.12 | coz_ | Hey all. Is this a good channel to talk abot kpat? |
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| 18:47.07 | Chaekyung | yes |
| 18:47.38 | Chaekyung | I have knowledge of the https://linuxreviews.org/KPatience but I will not admit to playing it ever. |
| 18:49.01 | Chaekyung | unrelated, there's KDE news today. https://blog.neon.kde.org/index.php/2019/06/11/kde-neon-5-16-out/ it's happening |
| 18:49.14 | coz_ | Chaekyung, ") well I play it during breif breaks, but some of the games refuse to auto solve, when you get to a certain point. 3 versions ago it was fine |
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| 18:50.00 | Chaekyung | I actually never used the auto-solve feature if I had in theory played it during brief breaks myself |
| 18:50.20 | Chaekyung | but if it worked before and doesn't now then that's a regression and you should file a complaint at https://bugs.kde.org/ |
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| 18:51.16 | coz_ | Chaekyung, not the auto solve, just cards used to flip up when there was an opening, I know I am not saying that correctly |
| 18:51.35 | coz_ | Chaekyung, ok thanks |
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| 18:52.32 | Chaekyung | hmm you haven't just by accident disabled it in the settings menu under enable solver? |
| 18:52.59 | coz_ | Chaekyung, no it is only fr one or 2 games |
| 18:53.21 | coz_ | the others work fine |
| 18:54.13 | coz_ | I only say this because breaks are short |
| 18:54.18 | coz_ | :) |
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| 18:55.09 | coz_ | Chaekyung, thanks again |
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| 19:55.08 | Azimoth | Hi, I'm having a weird "problem" with KDE and wayland. When I click the application starter symbol in the task bar (usually bottom left corner, in my case top left corner), instead of opening up a menu, it brings a window into focus (usually pidgin or signal desktop client)... |
| 19:55.33 | Azimoth | It's hard to describe this, without knowing the proper terminology -.-' |
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| 19:59.32 | Azimoth | Any ideas what might cause this/how to fix this? |
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| 20:01.47 | jankusanagi_ | sounds like your clicks are having an effect in the system tray instead of the application menu |
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| 20:02.03 | jankusanagi_ | does this work correctly in Plasma under Xorg? |
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| 20:02.43 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: I had this problem under Xorg as well, but could fix it by delaying the start of signal and pidgin... |
| 20:03.00 | Azimoth | (delaying the autostart) |
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| 20:09.25 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: so NOW it works under Xorg, but the "fix" didn't work under wayland |
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| 20:19.04 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: And to be precise: In wayland it works until Pidgin is started... o.O |
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| 20:21.28 | Azimoth | By the way: The symbol apparently is enirely "re-linked" with pidgin... Hovering the mouse over it shows "Pidgin - Available", right klicking it opens the Pidgin menu... |
| 20:22.01 | jankusanagi_ | sounds like Pidgin's tray icon is rogue, instead of being put inside the system tray plasmoid |
| 20:23.42 | jankusanagi_ | it could be the case that Pidgin uses the old XEmbed method for the systray icon (probably), which Plasma supports via xembedsniproxy... and that might not work on Plasma-on-Wayland |
| 20:24.08 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: Wasn't there something about the pidgin tray icon that required the... trying to find the wiki page... |
| 20:25.04 | Azimoth | jankusanagi_: (I'm using Gentoo) there even is a special section for pidgin in the gentoo kde wiki https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE#Pidgin |
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| 20:28.38 | PhoenixLandPira4 | Quick question, does KDE have a good virtual keyboard that you can use outside of the password one on the lockscreen? |
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| 20:31.26 | Azimoth | Funny... In noticed that the ACTUAL pidgin tray icon does not work at all :D |
| 20:32.37 | Azimoth | for some reason signal now took over (without re-starting the kde session).. |
| 20:32.58 | Azimoth | And NOW it actually works... whatever happened there in the background |
| 20:35.22 | Azimoth | Well, the application launcher symbol works... |
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| 21:18.30 | Azimoth | I noticed I missed the (crucial) final step in the wiki... now pidgin behaves |
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| 21:20.26 | Azimoth | The only thing left on my "todo" list for wayland KDE is that plasma search doesn't care about the latte dock being on the top side of the screen. so when pressing alt+space the search field is half covered by the latte dock. Is there a way to tell it to move down a little? |
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