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11:49.47shevchukHi. I want to make an app start minimized, so I made a window rule for it (Minimized: Apply initially; Yes), which usually works, but not with this particular app : ) Is there anything I could try to make it work? It's a PyQt5 app Blink: https://github.com/AGProjects/blink-qt (Debian/Ubuntu repo in case anyone wants to try: http://projects.ag-projects.com/projects/documentation/wiki/Repositories )
11:52.47shevchukSome other window rules for this app actually work
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12:02.30shevchukSetting it to Minimized: Force; Yes does minimize it, but I don't want it to be always minimized of course :D just on start
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12:42.00jmtrivialdear kde users. I am using an up-to-date debian unstable. Since this morning, my akonadi server is not able to start. In fact, /usr/sbin/mysqld-akonadi is not able to read its configuration files in my directory, like if it was not run by my user, but by another one (I presume mysql). Do you know how to solve that?
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12:51.15BluesKajHi folks
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13:27.08shevchukIs there any way to autostart app after network up? I know there is X-KDE-autostart-after, but it does not seem to be of much help for this
13:27.58shevchukI could probably use systemd user service + targets somehow
13:28.27shevchuknot sure it would work good for gui apps though
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13:39.21mkonceki believe i found a bug in Spectacle, assigning a global shorctut to "Capture Rectangular Region" and pressing the shortcut multiple times results in multiple programs run while being unable to quit all except for the last instance of Spectacle
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13:46.15mkoncekVersion 18.04.3 - A Dearth of Dank Memes
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14:16.58in1t3rHaving weird problem with Kmail in version 5.9.
14:17.25in1t3rHaving weird problem with Kmail in version 5.9.1 and version 5.9.3 I can't add the message tags.
14:18.50in1t3rIf I try to add them from a appearance window they look like added but actually do not appear and no error is thrown in terminal if I try to add them from context menu and popup they throw error:
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14:19.06in1t3rorg.kde.pim.mailcommon: Failed to create tag:  "Failed to store tag"
14:20.13in1t3rAnyone had similar issue? Can't add tags at all. is there some workaround? Like maybe saving some settings and then doing a purge of kmail? and re-installation
14:20.21in1t3rWould that be a good course of action?
14:22.51in1t3rI use Debian unstable and version of kmail is 5.9.3 atm version of kdepim-runtime also 5.9.3
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15:29.31DwarfWhat causes a tray icon to misbehave and end up at the top left corner? https://i.imgur.com/lZKFmvJ.png
15:29.37DwarfIt also shouldn't be all black
15:29.55DwarfRunning kwin_x11 --replace does not seem to fix it
15:30.08pragomerhey, I am trying to open a pdf with okular, that contains an embedded pdf that is pw protected. okular shows and tells me that there is an embedded file, but when trying to open or save it this fails and I am not asked for a pw
15:30.35pragomeris there a kind of additional tool I have to install to deal with pw-encrypted embedded pdfs?
15:31.48hedgienot necessarily a kde thing, but do you maybe have a pdf editor you can use to open the file?
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15:32.53pragomerthe only one that is able to do that is adbobe reader on windows (what is a horrible situation). I am using a windows vbox VM just for this issue
15:33.32pragomernone of the linux pdf viewers is able to do that. okular is the only one that even tells me that there would be an embedded pdf in the pdf
15:33.42JanKusanagiDwarf: do you have xembedsniproxy running?
15:34.07DwarfThat seems to be running
15:34.11DwarfWhatever that is
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15:34.37JanKusanagiand do you know to which program belongs that "no icon"
15:34.38pragomerthis is what okular shows me:
15:34.38pragomerhttps://snag.gy/6qVOkD.jpg
15:34.39JanKusanagi?
15:35.00DwarfI don't. Clicking it does nothing
15:35.46DwarfOh! I do. It's the signal messenger. Which is odd, since it also appears in the tray area
15:35.51DwarfThe actual icon, that is
15:36.07pragomerand this is what it looks like in adobe reader: https://snag.gy/8gDcfK.jpg
15:36.12pragomer(like it should)
15:36.30hedgieit's not OSS (or again kde related), but master pdf does have a linux client free for non commercial use
15:36.38DwarfPidgin also showed a black box just below the tray area as well as its actual icon. Closing that application removed the black box
15:38.36pragomergoing to give master pdf a try, thank you for this tipp
15:39.03hedgienp.  it's just something out of left field, but I've had it work for other strange pdf issues for me (not sure about yours though)
15:40.46pragomerjust discovered that foxitreaderportable (for windows) can also open it.. perhaps I just gonna run this via wine..
15:41.01hedgieeither way, good luck
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15:42.49pragomerah, nope.. master pdf just does not open any embedded pdf
15:42.56svuorelapragomer: can you share such a test file with anyone? I'm sure the okular (or poppler, the library underneath evince and okular) people would like such a thing, if there are no traces in the okular or poppler bug tracker.s
15:43.55DwarfJanKusanagi: You make it sound like it's a known issue. Is there a bug I can track?
15:44.49svuorelaDwarf: all the oldstyle systray icons is a fragile hack.
15:45.05svuorelaDwarf: is it an app that starts up during plasma startup?
15:45.48pragomersvuorela: not really sure as it is a sensible medical document..
15:46.35svuorelapragomer: I kind of expected that, unless you had the tools to generate them ...
15:46.47pragomerI was just asking here in the kde channel because okular was the closest linux pdf viewer... it showed the embedded files.. this did all the other pdf viewers not in linux
15:46.48Dwarfsvuorela: It is not. It's very possible kwin crashed. It tends to do that while running mpv fullscreen for some reason. I've set kwin to disable compositing to try and remedy that but I suppose it didn't quite help
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15:47.03in1t3rguys anyone knowledgable with pim suite?
15:47.11in1t3rHaving weird problem with Kmail in version 5.9.1 and version 5.9.3 I can't add the message tags.
15:47.12pragomerthese pdfs are created by my medical assurance
15:47.18in1t3rorg.kde.pim.mailcommon: Failed to create tag:  "Failed to store tag"
15:47.38HiddenTundraWell, this place seems a bit busy this morning.
15:47.52svuorelaDwarf: and if you restart the application that provides that systray thing, would that move it in place ?
15:47.53pragomerbut again, if you look at this screenshot: https://snag.gy/6qVOkD.jpg
15:48.13svuorelapragomer: /win 24
15:48.15svuorelawoops.
15:48.18pragomerthis shows me that okular does it just well.. I just am not asked for the pw
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15:48.52svuorelapragomer: it is probably a bug that needs fixing, but the developers probably need test data for that.
15:48.53HiddenTundraGood morning folks, I'm wondering if anyone might be able  to tell me how notifications are handled for KDE connect for windows. As in, how do they get displayed, are they something that could be redirected to something else, say growl or something
15:50.00in1t3rbtw guys related to kde-connect does sending of sms from desktop work on your machine?
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15:50.13asturmyes
15:50.28in1t3rdo you use official package or something from github?
15:50.38HiddenTundrain1t3r: It works from my laptop, and, sometimes from my desktop(windows builds seem a little iffy)
15:50.40in1t3r@asturm, ^
15:50.52asturm'something from github'? :p
15:50.56pragomerok, the only thing that actually works for me is foxit reader portable via wine :-(
15:51.38in1t3rIt do not work for me also I use signal on android but I guess that kde-connect is doing sending sms programmaticaly so it shouldn't care what I use for sms app on android
15:51.50in1t3rasturm, I send you link to repo
15:52.50HiddenTundraFrom what I know in1t3r, kde-connect will try and use the internal messaging function on android (but I could als be talking out my ass ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
15:52.58JanKusanagithe KDE community uses its own infrastructure: https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdeconnect-kde
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15:55.26pragomerI just tried to start okular from terminal (to perhaps get a little info about my issue), but the terminal outputs nothing (so not verbose at all).
15:55.27svuorelaHiddenTundra: I'd expect notifications are handled by the KNotifications framework on all platforms. Iirc it has a growl backend.
15:55.29pragomeris there an option?
15:55.52svuorelapragomer: there are some env var to set.
15:57.51asturmin1t3r: I'm under full control of the packages on my system, and kdeconnect is latest release version :)
15:58.06svuorelapragomer: export QT_LOGGING_RULES="*=true" or something like that
15:58.28HiddenTundraBack in a moment
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16:01.10pragomervoila: https://snag.gy/XtNJTW.jpg
16:01.41pragomerthis is the error message I get then okular tries to open the embedded file
16:05.13svuorelapragomer: try file a issue against poppler ( gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler )
16:08.16pragomerhm, what is poppler btw?
16:08.31hedgieI seem to remember those from futurama
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16:10.28svuorelapragomer: poppler is the pdf library that okular uses.
16:13.52pragomerthank you so far. so I know that the issue comes from there now..
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19:45.33TheBraynHello, I'm trying to use i3 with kde. However there is an issue with the workspace numbers: https://i.imgur.com/G1AuXfD.png
19:45.51TheBraynis there a fix for that?
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20:12.34jubo2Hello and thanks for the awesome desktop environment and software
20:13.19jubo2I'm doing a Kubuntu -> Kubuntu migration and the migration from Kubuntu 18.04.1 to Kubuntu 18.04.1 (fresh) has been going pretty well, but I don't know from where I can get the settings for the panel (at the bottom of the screen, at least on my system).
20:14.06jubo2No biggie to recreate 'em manually, but if someone would know which .directory or .file to grab it'd be great
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20:26.39lupusI've installed KDE Plasma 5.14.5 on Gentoo and I'm really enjoying it so far. I have an issue with conky, no matter which transparency settings I'm setting in .conkyrc, the conky background always remain solid black.
20:26.39lupusAnyone here have a working setup with conky transparency and KDE ?
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20:47.50jubo2Ok.. Did it manually
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21:20.51lupusI found a working config, nvm my question
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21:31.42hedgielupus would you remind sharing those results?  always been curious to try conky, but never had any luck in kde
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