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03:36.00 | jonswift | where in kdeconfig is current wallpaper string? plasmarc*? |
03:37.10 | jonswift | or just how to set the wallpaper from cli? |
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03:37.24 | jonswift | qdbus maybe? |
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04:05.00 | jonswift | ah, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=215899 |
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09:18.58 | kab0m | hey there. Can someone tell me how i can use an emoji picker like âInsert Emojiâ on Kubuntu/KDE? tia |
09:19.44 | akik | :) |
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09:43.02 | Joerg-Neo900 | !qml |
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09:43.33 | Joerg-Neo900 | !plasmoid |
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09:44.11 | Joerg-Neo900 | any pointers to a plasmoid/widget HowTo? |
09:44.26 | Joerg-Neo900 | coding |
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10:01.12 | Fuchs | Joerg-Neo900: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma5/QML2/GettingStarted, but personally I found that rather useless and just went with looking at existing plasmoids when I coded mine |
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10:49.31 | Joerg-Neo900 | :-D ta |
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10:52.02 | Joerg-Neo900 | Fuchs: are plasmoids running in their own process? (not like e.g. on maemo where an applet can tear down the whole desktop) And how would I test plasmoids, since restarting plasma is a tad clumsy - is there a better alternative? |
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10:57.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | nm, "testing the applet" in your link is maybe not completely useless |
10:57.37 | Joerg-Neo900 | plasmoidviewer --applet package |
10:59.36 | Joerg-Neo900 | umm cnf plasmoidviewer |
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11:04.57 | Joerg-Neo900 | hmmm https://pastebin.com/5LsiEBAX |
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11:18.19 | Joerg-Neo900 | nice, works now, just the applet itself acts a little... buggy |
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11:39.07 | Joerg-Neo900 | Fuchs: can you help me out on meaning of >>file:///usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.plasma.plasmoidviewershell/contents/configuration/AppletConfiguration.qml:171:17: QML Rectangle: Binding loop detected for property "width"<< ? |
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11:43.06 | Joerg-Neo900 | https://i.imgur.com/qEdP0Cv.png |
11:43.18 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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11:44.12 | Joerg-Neo900 | Fuchs: from `plasmoidviewer --applet /usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewe |
11:44.32 | Joerg-Neo900 | +r |
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12:14.47 | davidebeatrici | Hello |
12:14.58 | davidebeatrici | I'm on Debian Testing |
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12:16.05 | davidebeatrici | Since yesterday, my favorites disappeared from the applications menu and after some minutes the "plasmashell" is using 100% CPU |
12:17.26 | davidebeatrici | I have to use ALT + TAB to switch between open windows because task manager bar takes a lot of seconds to register the input |
12:17.59 | davidebeatrici | All the packages are updated |
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12:27.47 | davidebeatrici | KDE Plasma version: 5.12.5 |
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12:53.35 | davidebeatrici | GDB backtrace: https://pastebin.com/YVezYVuL |
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13:23.52 | shtrb | davidebeatrici, did you do a dist-upgrade ? |
13:23.59 | davidebeatrici | shtrb: Yes |
13:24.22 | shtrb | drop a note at #debian-kde at oftc |
13:24.32 | davidebeatrici | Should I file a bug? |
13:24.34 | shtrb | (please mention that) |
13:24.51 | shtrb | it is an option ,but debian-kde is where the kde maintainers hangout |
13:25.09 | davidebeatrici | OK, I'm going to ask there, thank you :) |
13:25.49 | shtrb | you welcome, beware of sid update because it broke plasma-pa (you can use kmix ) |
13:26.46 | davidebeatrici | It's working fine for me, however I always had a problem with VLC |
13:27.02 | davidebeatrici | Changing the volume to 100% in it, actually increases it to 105% in plasma-pa |
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13:29.01 | Llamatron2112 | is there a way to put a panel applet so it always is in the center of the screen with the regular dock ? only managed to do that with latte-dock's "justify" setting, but I suspect latte is making my systray applet bug pretty often |
13:30.09 | Llamatron2112 | on a maxed width dock |
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13:40.58 | Zinjanthropus | There is panel alignment center in the regular panel menu (under more settings). Or are you talking about something more specific? |
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13:43.50 | Llamatron2112 | it doesn't do what I want if the panel's width is maxed, it refers to the docks alignment, not its content (at least it seems to me). If I put separators left and right of the element I want in the center, it doesn't end on the middle of the screen |
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13:44.04 | Llamatron2112 | and I tried fiddling with separators size |
13:45.17 | Zinjanthropus | Ah, I see. Then I don't have any ideas. Sorry. |
13:45.31 | Zinjanthropus | I'm just a n00b, tho, anyway |
13:45.38 | Zinjanthropus | KDE n00b, I mean |
13:46.31 | Llamatron2112 | I am too :) but you might have found something I didn't |
13:46.46 | Zinjanthropus | Hahaha, yeah, you never know |
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14:25.27 | Joerg-Neo900 | >>you can use kmix<< is there a plasma5-compatible version? or how would I use kmix under plasma5 |
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14:33.48 | JanKusanagi | there's no concept of "compatibility" here |
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14:34.03 | JanKusanagi | it's just a program, you can potentially run it in any environment |
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14:43.46 | davidebeatrici | shtrb: I fixed the issue by deleting ~/.local/share/kactivitymanagerd/resources/*, as suggested on #debian-kde |
14:43.53 | davidebeatrici | The database was corrupted |
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15:31.33 | mshukla | hi |
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15:49.30 | TheDcoder | I have still not solved my lag issue, can anyone look at my thread?: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=152887 |
15:49.56 | TheDcoder | Basically Plasma is spamming a function called nf_defrag_ipv4_enable for some reason |
15:51.29 | thiago | when is that function called? |
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15:51.37 | thiago | netfilters, defragment, ipv4 |
15:51.47 | thiago | but when does the kernel decide to call it? |
15:52.49 | thiago | check your network traffic. What's happening? |
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15:56.21 | TheDcoder | BAsically everytime since Plasma starts |
15:56.35 | TheDcoder | I am no developer by the way, I just used perf to generate an usage report |
15:56.42 | TheDcoder | that function was on the top of the charts |
15:56.58 | thiago | that's kernel networking |
15:57.06 | TheDcoder | Oh |
15:57.27 | thiago | so, please use a traffic sniffer like tcpdump or wireshark. What is happening? |
15:57.38 | thiago | stop application that aren't relevant |
15:57.49 | TheDcoder | Not sure what that implies but something must have caused that to be called |
15:58.00 | thiago | probably incoming traffic |
15:58.13 | TheDcoder | I don't think we would find anything by inspecting the traffic |
15:58.29 | TheDcoder | anything useful I mean |
15:58.45 | TheDcoder | it only happens to my user, other users CPU usage is way down |
15:59.50 | thiago | it might be traffic your user causes |
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16:03.19 | TheDcoder | Traffic caused by plasma? |
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16:06.19 | thiago | not necessarily |
16:06.31 | thiago | can you just tell me what traffic you see? |
16:07.15 | TheDcoder | I am currently not using my Linux OS, I could switch to it if you believe you can find something useful |
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16:08.32 | TheDcoder | I don't really have anything else to do anyway, so I guess I will switch, I will be back within a few minutes :) |
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16:17.57 | TheDcoder | I am sorry but I forgot your nickname... can you give me the command that you want me to run? |
16:18.27 | thiago | wireshark |
16:18.38 | TheDcoder | ah, thiago |
16:19.01 | TheDcoder | wireshark is pretty heavy, do you mind using something like tcpdump? |
16:19.07 | thiago | no |
16:19.22 | thiago | tcpdump is fine |
16:20.18 | TheDcoder | thanks, can you give me the command that you want me to run? Sorry, I am a noob at this stuff :) |
16:20.46 | thiago | tcpdump -pni <interface that is running> |
16:21.42 | TheDcoder | okay, installing tcpdump now, dnf is being lazy |
16:22.22 | thiago | btw, let's test something first |
16:22.26 | thiago | turn your firewall off |
16:22.31 | thiago | 1) does the slowness disappear? |
16:22.45 | thiago | 2) does nf_defrag_ipv4 still show up high in perf? |
16:23.02 | TheDcoder | Fedora comes with firewalld, should I disable that? |
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16:30.13 | TheDcoder | surprising, it is not the most used function anymore |
16:30.20 | TheDcoder | the top position goes to alc_fixup_sku_ignore |
16:31.39 | TheDcoder | after re-enabling the firewall it is now ip6table_filter_net_exit |
16:32.07 | TheDcoder | I am not sure if I am reading the perf report correctl |
16:32.15 | TheDcoder | *correctly |
16:32.27 | TheDcoder | It is time for mey dinner, I will be back in a few minutes |
16:32.40 | thiago | so networking is not the issue |
16:32.45 | thiago | perf is giving you red herrings |
16:32.52 | TheDcoder | yeah... :( |
16:33.41 | TheDcoder | back to square one I guess |
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16:57.05 | TheDcoder | kactivity manager is crashing unexpectedly now |
16:57.18 | TheDcoder | approxmatley every one minute |
16:57.22 | TheDcoder | around 20 crashes |
16:59.13 | tosky | TheDcoder: logout, remove the content of ~/.local/share/kactivitymanagerd/resources/, login |
16:59.37 | tosky | it may be a corruption of the kactivity database; some code was recently added to make that less problematic |
17:00.02 | TheDcoder | Oh |
17:00.09 | TheDcoder | I will do that now |
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17:09.18 | TheDcoder | Wow |
17:09.26 | TheDcoder | I can't believe I solved the issue |
17:09.33 | TheDcoder | by simply doing that |
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17:09.58 | TheDcoder | Thank you very much tosky! |
17:11.20 | tosky | luckily for you I helped another user today with the same problem |
17:12.25 | TheDcoder | much appreciated, I have been dealing with this problem for a few days |
17:12.45 | TheDcoder | hopefully the patch will make it's way into the releases and fedora repository soon |
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17:20.11 | TheDcoder | Marked my thread as solved along with the solution |
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17:46.12 | Zinjanthropus | What do KDE users normally use for connecting to wireless networks? nm-applet comes with Debian by default, but is there a QT app of some sort that does the same job? |
17:48.56 | thiago | plasma-nm |
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17:51.13 | JanKusanagi | which is also very probably installed with the Plasma desktop by default, at least, in common cases |
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18:10.42 | Zinjanthropus | Not installed by default, I guess, but I think I found it in the repositories. Thanks :) |
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18:25.19 | JanKusanagi | well, if you did some sort of minimal install, then no :D |
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23:09.15 | Time-Warp | HEY whats happening with KDE. If Martin steps down whats going to happen |
23:09.54 | JanKusanagi | wow... xD |
23:10.44 | Time-Warp | https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2018-June/086117.html |
23:11.05 | JanKusanagi | I guess you didn't read his lengthy blog post about it |
23:11.25 | asturm | Time-Warp: you're acting as if that is news |
23:11.41 | JanKusanagi | in short: there are other VERY able KWin developers, and he's not going anywhere, just stepping down as "maintainer" |
23:13.00 | Time-Warp | it is news lol. didnt expect that coming like on a Sunday |
23:14.05 | JanKusanagi | from June 2 to June 25... hardly news =) |
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23:16.57 | dTal | okay I am unable to change the setting that URLs open in the application associated with the mime type of their contents |
23:17.16 | dTal | I change it, I hit apply, I close settings, I reopen, setting has reverted |
23:17.23 | dTal | and of course links still open incorrectly |
23:17.41 | dTal | this is a massive security hole |
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23:18.44 | JanKusanagi | never had that issue |
23:19.59 | JanKusanagi | just changed to launch something else, works with that as expected, just after clicking Apply |
23:20.04 | JanKusanagi | not need to close anything |
23:20.48 | JanKusanagi | and back to Firefox with no issues |
23:24.31 | Moesbie | My internal HDs automatically mounted with fstab shows empty path in dolphin. df shows they are there. How do I get dolphin to recognized the paths again? (It stopped after a recent update). I'm running KDE Plasma version 5.13.1 on archlinux. dolphin version 18.04.2 |
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23:48.28 | JanKusanagi | I'm not sure what you mean... what's "shows empty path in Dolphin? |
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23:50.38 | Moesbie | so going to the directory that was hd is mounted to is blank in dolphin |
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23:53.31 | Moesbie | Here is a line of the result from df -h /dev/sdc1 3.7T 2.2T 1.6T 58% /home/me/HDs/D4TB |
23:54.13 | fengshaun | hi, I'm trying to copy and modify an existing .desktop file. I have copied the original (for emacs25.desktop) to .local/share/applications/somethingelse.desktop and have modified only the TryExec= and Exec= parts to add some arguments. However, now kde complains that the desktop file is not valid |
23:54.17 | JanKusanagi | and 'ls /home/me/HDs/D4TB' actually lists stuff? |
23:54.23 | Moesbie | yes |
23:54.30 | fengshaun | I have verified the file with desktop-file-validate and no errors come up |
23:54.51 | fengshaun | how can I have kde recognize the new desktop file and be able to run it |
23:54.52 | fengshaun | ? |
23:54.57 | Moesbie | and i can get to /home/me/HDs/D4TB in konsole, but if I go to /home/me/HDs in dolphin, it lists nothing |
23:55.24 | JanKusanagi | and /home/me lists something? |
23:55.31 | Moesbie | ls /home/me/HDs/ lists my drives |
23:55.36 | Moesbie | yes |
23:55.57 | JanKusanagi | I mean, in Dolphin, /home/me shows files? |
23:56.13 | Moesbie | yes |
23:57.03 | Jucato | fengshaun: where/when is it complaining that it's invalid? |
23:57.29 | JanKusanagi | Moesbie: your drives should also appear in the side panel, in the "Devices" section, below "Places". Do they? |
23:57.32 | fengshaun | when I double click on it and click execute |
23:57.36 | fengshaun | Jucato, ^ |
23:57.57 | fengshaun | I get "The desktop entry file <location> is not valid" |
23:57.58 | Moesbie | They do, and I can access files from there |
23:59.06 | JanKusanagi | so going to /home/me/HDs with Dolphin shows no files, right? |
23:59.15 | Moesbie | correct |
23:59.20 | JanKusanagi | did you try pressing F5? |
23:59.36 | Moesbie | yeah, nothing |
23:59.59 | JanKusanagi | I assume you didn't change any mount permissions of any kind, and there are no symlinks involved |