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00:30.35 | Trel | How can I get a frame on GTK windows, such as Firefox for resizing purposes? |
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00:38.26 | JanKusanagi | FF has an option for that itself |
00:38.39 | JanKusanagi | otherwise, Kwin's specific window rules |
00:38.57 | JanKusanagi | alt-f3 â More actions â Special Window Settings |
00:39.01 | Trel | JanKusanagi: are you sure firefox has an option for that, I can't see anything like it |
00:39.05 | JanKusanagi | (also, Special Application Settings) |
00:39.14 | JanKusanagi | yes, FF has it in the "Customize" mode |
00:39.25 | JanKusanagi | (FF 60, that is) |
00:40.08 | Trel | I have Firefox 60 and I don't see any option that looks like that. Unless you mean Drag Space which just adds like 2 pixels to the top of the window, nowhere else. |
00:40.19 | Trel | and doesn't give resize handles btw |
00:40.21 | Zren | Trel, Alt+RightClick can resize any window |
00:40.33 | Trel | Yes, but I'm talking specifically about the frame |
00:40.46 | Zren | ah k |
00:40.50 | Trel | I've been using the alt method for now |
00:41.56 | Trel | Any idea what setting I'm looking for in the special window settings? I see one that looks like it does the inverse of what I want |
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00:43.48 | JanKusanagi | apprearance and fixes tab, first option |
00:44.07 | Trel | That's the inverse |
00:44.11 | JanKusanagi | "no titlebar and frame", forced to "no" |
00:44.23 | JanKusanagi | sure, that's why you force it to "no" xD |
00:44.55 | JanKusanagi | but my FF 60 has the option to use a sane window border (leaving it up to the window manager, that is) |
00:45.10 | Trel | I forced it to now, but that forces both title bar AND border |
00:45.58 | JanKusanagi | ah, I thought that was obvious xD |
00:46.00 | Trel | My goal is to have firefox without the titlebar, but WITH a border for easy resizing. |
00:46.08 | Trel | when not maximized of course |
00:46.37 | Trel | The alt+right click method works, but I don't always have two hands when I need to resize, such as when I'm presenting something, etc |
00:51.13 | fbg13 | Trel i can resize gtk apps when using Adapta theme for gtk apps |
00:51.21 | fbg13 | but not with breeze |
00:51.31 | Trel | fbg13: including Firefox with the titlebar disabled? |
00:51.49 | fbg13 | yes |
00:52.11 | Trel | Hmm, let me try that as a test |
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00:52.57 | Trel | nope, same thing, nothing to grab to resize with |
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00:53.43 | fbg13 | did you restart firefox? |
00:54.21 | Trel | I opened it after, I didn't open, close and open it |
00:55.10 | Trel | (Firefox isn't open at the moment, unless I'm checking, so it wasn't opened when I changed window decorations) |
00:59.11 | fbg13 | Trel Application Style > Gnome Application Style, you set it there? |
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01:01.44 | Trel | oops, I only changed the gtk2, not 3. That changed it for firefox, so it looks like it IS something with breeze then :\ |
01:03.42 | Trel | Can't say it fixed it since it still breaks with breeze, but I test with one of the others that it had and it does show a border |
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06:44.37 | preiske | Hi folks, anyone else experiencing the problem, that KMail with an Exchange Account for receiving emails is not starting up correctly? The account is offline (says "Server not availbale" in the settings) until I restart the Exchange-IMAP-Entry. |
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06:49.51 | preiske | Not sure if this might be a network problem since I need a VPN connection to connect to the server. Always started KMail right up but now that I rebooted and waited for a few seconds, it seemed to work. Will observe this and come again... bye |
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08:38.03 | JyZyXEL | does kmail automatically try decrypting PGP encrypted emails? |
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08:43.14 | aheinecke | JyZyXEL: You can configure KMail to do that. But we received that "EFail" Paper you are asking about in advance and neither we nor the "Researcher" saw a real vulnerability in KMail. |
08:43.30 | aheinecke | Also see a note from our crypto backend about this: https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2018-May/060315.html |
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10:34.30 | epicmetal | Are Slackware users supported here (KDE 4.x)? |
10:34.44 | shtrb|laptop | !ask |
10:35.04 | epicmetal | shtrb|laptop: that was the actual question. I'm not currently running Slackware, just curious. |
10:35.08 | Fuchs | epicmetal: distro should not matter, olde version of KDE might as people might simply not have it to test |
10:35.18 | shtrb|laptop | but aslo make sure to ask in #slackware |
10:35.35 | shtrb|laptop | or what ever channel exist for it |
10:35.37 | epicmetal | Ok |
10:35.52 | shtrb|laptop | And a nice dist choice :) |
10:36.09 | epicmetal | I'm consdering it... probably won't but who knows |
10:36.14 | epicmetal | I've run it before, though |
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13:11.34 | gulzar | I am on archlinux |
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15:42.17 | PlasmaHH | Hi, after a few months I have update and rebooted my system and now kde konsole (and thus yakuake and all use that kpart) have an increased line spacing. I have checked the settings dialogue, but it shows 0 there, is there anywhere else a setting that gets added or a system default or so? |
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17:39.06 | Ozymandias42 | hey, quick question. is there a way to autohide scrollbars in plasma? |
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17:40.33 | tsarompy | not that i know of |
17:41.07 | Ozymandias42 | thatâs what googling resulted in too. thatâs unfortunate. |
17:41.19 | tsarompy | since when can you not configure oxygen anymore |
17:41.22 | tsarompy | what tf |
17:41.51 | tsarompy | also broken: changing the font of desktop icons and kwin title bars |
17:41.56 | tsarompy | lol |
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17:42.35 | tsarompy | hates kwin |
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17:48.55 | Ozymandias42 | is there a way to get multitouch-swipe gestures like four finger swipe up to show all open applications? |
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18:20.42 | HiddenTundra | Afternoon everyone, I was wondering if there was a way to suppress window notifications, as in, when something happens in a window and it turns yellow on the panel. And if there is such a feature, is it possible to restrict it to only a few wnidows? |
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19:10.19 | jankusanagi_ | Kwin rox :D |
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19:36.15 | tsarompy | any suggestions on a start menu for kde |
19:37.45 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma has 3 "default" application menus, just try them |
19:37.55 | tsarompy | i have |
19:37.58 | tsarompy | i hate them all |
19:38.01 | jankusanagi_ | I'm happy with "Application Menu", aka "classic" |
19:38.12 | tsarompy | its buggy af |
19:38.15 | jankusanagi_ | if you hate all 3 "defaults", I cannot imagine what you'd like |
19:38.19 | tsarompy | lol |
19:38.20 | jankusanagi_ | not buggy here |
19:38.22 | jankusanagi_ | works like a charm |
19:38.31 | tsarompy | i miss the old kde3 kicker menu |
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19:39.30 | tsarompy | i just wish that like, it rendered it as an actual menu not as a plasmoid |
19:41.00 | instoogentall | tsarompy: try the one called Simple Menu |
19:42.39 | tsarompy | i did lol |
19:42.41 | tsarompy | its okay |
19:42.53 | tsarompy | i just mapped gmrun to meta+f2 |
19:42.55 | tsarompy | it works fine for me |
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20:18.29 | pedahzur | Getting this error with the sftp KIO client. KDE 5.36 Has this been fixed in a later version? kex error : no match for method kex algos: server [diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256], client [curve25519-sha256@libssh.org,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1] The ssh public key in the known_hosts starts out: "[host name]:2222,[host ip]:2222 ssh-rsa AAAAB3N....." |
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20:19.58 | jankusanagi_ | current Frameworks is 5.46, so I'd say it's highly possible |
20:20.11 | tosky | pedahzur: the version that you mentioned is the version of Frameworks, and I strongly suspect that it's not related to it |
20:20.21 | tosky | I think it's something in some underlying library |
20:20.33 | pedahzur | tosky: Very possible. |
20:21.15 | pedahzur | tosky: I do know a while back the sftp KIO module was having trouble with some newer SSH key algorithms...don't know if this error is related to that. |
20:21.19 | jankusanagi_ | maybe Qt itself, or openSSL... |
20:21.43 | jankusanagi_ | maybe you're missing some openssl plugins |
20:22.10 | tosky | pedahzur: it uses a library called libssh |
20:22.13 | jankusanagi_ | I might be getting that mixed up with the QCA plugins |
20:22.15 | jankusanagi_ | :D |
20:22.23 | tosky | no, it does not use them |
20:22.29 | tosky | (note for self: it was said here that it never happened that the version of Frameworks was used as the version of KDE, vs using Plasma) |
20:22.59 | jankusanagi_ | hehe, very true xD |
20:23.12 | tosky | about sftp, see the library usde https://cgit.kde.org/kio-extras.git/tree/CMakeLists.txt#n85 |
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20:24.12 | pedahzur | ii libssh-4:amd64 0.6.3-4.3 amd64 tiny C SSH library (OpenSSL flavor) |
20:24.26 | pedahzur | ii libssh-gcrypt-4:amd64 0.6.3-4.3 amd64 tiny C SSH library (gcrypt flavor) |
20:24.31 | pedahzur | is also installed. |
20:25.05 | gschanuel | hello |
20:25.36 | gschanuel | i'm having an issue with krdc. When I try to RDP my servers, it asks me for username and password, but then just closes the connection |
20:25.44 | tosky | pedahzur: that seems to be the problem, at least by reading this issue on another software, but still related to libssh: https://github.com/ashkulz/NppFTP/issues/31#issuecomment-106783612 |
20:26.17 | gschanuel | i'm running archlinux with krdc 18.04.1 with freerdp 1:2.0.0_rc2-2 |
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20:27.21 | pedahzur | tosky: That comment is from May 29, 2015. THAT is not encouraging. :D |
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20:28.51 | tosky | pedahzur: it says that codec is not available in 0.7.0, and you have 0.6.4 |
20:29.09 | tosky | s/codec/algorithm/ |
20:30.11 | pedahzur | tosky: I was referring to the fact that it seemed to be such an old bug...and still around. :) At least bionic appears to come with 0.8.0. Hopefully it has been added to that. :) |
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20:52.40 | gschanuel | krdc ideas? |
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21:00.19 | tosky | gschanuel: no, apart from the usual troubleshooting: do other applications which links to the same library (freerdp) work? |
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21:12.37 | gschanuel | tosky, i tried only to open freerdp on it's on |
21:12.40 | gschanuel | and it worked fine |
21:14.06 | gschanuel | i also tried kdebugdialog, slected only krdc, but I have no .xsession_error file |
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21:21.48 | jankusanagi_ | you might have a ~/.local/share/sddm/xorg-session.log |
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21:23.27 | alsetema | Hello guys , I am having trouble with kdes volume control. Kmix doesnt seem to launch. If i launch it it simply closes, same if I try in Konsole, it will simply prompt me back |
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21:24.36 | jankusanagi_ | well, launching kmix usually just results in the KMix icon appearing in the system tray |
21:24.50 | alsetema | I dont seem to have that icon either |
21:25.20 | alsetema | Maybe Im missing that part in the tray? |
21:26.29 | jankusanagi_ | you might have stuff hidden "under" the ^ symbol |
21:26.49 | jankusanagi_ | also, the system tray settings allow selecting what gets hidden |
21:26.59 | jankusanagi_ | or to ensure nothing ever hides |
21:27.06 | alsetema | I was taking a look in the widgets and apparently I didnt have the system tray added |
21:27.25 | alsetema | But I can see the volume bar now, thanks :D |
21:28.01 | alsetema | one more thing... What could be the cause of my fn+ brightness buttons not working? |
21:30.42 | alsetema | Also, thank you btw, jankusanagi_ |
21:30.49 | jankusanagi_ | that's probably the laptop manufacturer being non-standard |
21:31.13 | jankusanagi_ | you could launch "xev" and check what's printed in the terminal when you press those keys |
21:32.27 | alsetema | I mean, I also have XFCE installed and there it will work |
21:32.56 | alsetema | Apparently xev is not a command I can run nor install |
21:33.13 | tosky | gschanuel: kdebugdialog is for kdelibs 4.x application and Qt 5 applications not ported to the categorized logging system; you should use kdebugsettings |
21:33.19 | alsetema | Nvm, it was under another name |
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21:33.58 | alsetema | xev is printing a lot information to the konsole as well as opening a small window with a box |
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21:36.32 | gschanuel | krdc does not show in kdebugsettings |
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21:41.51 | gschanuel | s/does not show/is not shown |
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21:49.34 | rdorsch | Hi, when I try to switch user (Debian buster, Plasma 5.12.5) I always get to the lock screen of my account and cannot start a second session. |
21:49.52 | rdorsch | Does anybody have any idea what could go wrong here? |
21:53.26 | alsetema | I have no idea.. try disabling display managers |
21:53.39 | alsetema | and enabling them once again |
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21:57.08 | rdorsch | Hmm...disabling sddm (?) |
21:57.16 | rdorsch | How would you do that? |
21:57.47 | rdorsch | If the second session would fail to start is there any log file which would contain some information? |
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