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00:18.14CoJaBokishore96: I wanted to post "windows key" in that thread so it would become googleable, but it's locked <_<
00:18.55CoJaBoAlso, I just noticed i hate the new kde logo. lol
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01:23.10kishore96CoJaBo: If you want to change the logo shown on the menu, you can.
01:23.29kishore96Right click and go to the launcher settings.
01:24.11kishore96What new KDE logo? It's still the K with the circle, right?
01:24.35kishore96That thing with the triangle and three circles is the Plasma logo.
01:25.05CoJaBoAlso the weird lizard thong
01:26.04CoJaBoWhy's the Osama logo there instead of kde's? or even Kubuntu? just seems odd, since its the most visible lol
01:26.30CoJaBokishore96: Considering it's been several days and I didn't notice it til just now, its probably not an issue.. :P
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01:27.04kishore96You don't talk shit about our beloved Konqi here!
01:27.17kishore96searches for his pitchfork.
01:27.31CoJaBokishore96:  I liked the old one better xD
01:27.47kishore96The old what?
01:27.54kishore96The K with the circle?
01:28.14CoJaBoLizard thong
01:28.19CoJaBoThing
01:28.37kishore96Which lizard thing? The green dragon on one of the wallpapers?
01:28.40kishore96I can
01:28.55kishore96*I can't thinks of anything else that looks like a lizard.
01:29.01kishore96s/thinks/think
01:29.40kishore96wonders if they've really made some major change in the default setup.
01:29.57CoJaBoMy second guess would've been dinosaur
01:30.16kishore96The green one?
01:30.23CoJaBoYes
01:30.30kishore96That's just on a wallpaper and in some of the help menus, right?
01:30.43kishore96And even that wallpaper isn't the default one, IIRC.
01:30.51CoJaBoIts all over the websites lol
01:31.00kishore96That's our mascot!
01:31.17kishore96thinks it's male, but isn't sure.
01:31.25CoJaBoStill liked the old one better :P
01:31.39kishore96What was the old one?
01:31.54kishore96We've had this for at least 5-6 years, IIRC.
01:32.36kishore96The last redesign was in 2012, according to Wikipedia.
01:33.05CoJaBohuh. Nevernoticeditbeforethen
01:33.14kishore96But what was the old one?
01:33.18kishore96"old one"
01:33.19CoJaBoI'd change the menu logo just because I can, but I dunno what to change it to anyway >_>
01:34.08kishore96https://community.kde.org/Konqi#Konqi All this stuff is a bit weird, though. xD
01:34.51kishore96Some worldbuilding going on there. xD
01:35.17kishore96CoJaBo: You could change it to your distro's logo or the old K
01:35.17CoJaBoThe one I'm used to seeming https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Konqi-official-logo-aboutkde.png
01:35.29kishore96Wow. That's old.
01:36.06CoJaBoAlso, wow the detail on a logo character's entire life story xD
01:36.21kishore96Apparently that was used before 2012.
01:40.47CoJaBo" For some reason, there is a fish bone sticking out from the pocket of his robe."
01:41.07CoJaBoVery deep meaning in the original logo. apparently.
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01:45.29kishore96That's because he has to transfer files to and from the server on which he does development, and like any normal person, he uses dolphin over ssh. ;-)
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06:26.55physkets_Hey!
06:27.31physkets_Does KMail do DNS/Link pe-fetching?
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06:49.01CoJaBophyskets_: Considering it's a security hole, I'd certainly hope not lol
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08:24.42physkets_CoJaBo: yep, I just want to be sure.
08:24.52HateSpamMailsHello, I am using Kmail version 5.2.3 on my Kubuntu 17.04, and I am wondering whether it is possible to block all Emails from a specific sender. I keep getting a spam newsletter fromma company I once ordered from and I can't get rid of it. Their unsubscribe website does not work. So, can I block them in Kmail? Thank you a lot!
08:25.05HateSpamMails*from a
08:25.18physkets_confiure a filter
08:26.22hateballHateSpamMails: also you should upgrade to 17.10, 17.04 will be EOL in a few months
08:26.35physkets_And report it to http://spamcop.net/
08:27.28HateSpamMailsYes I know, but thank you. I will update soon.
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08:28.43HateSpamMailsI entered the company name in the filter under "configure Kmail" (they also use it in their Email address). So I won't get any more Emails from them?
08:28.52HateSpamMailsOr will they just be placed in the Spam folder?
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08:36.20physkets_There should be an option to 'Configure Filters'
08:36.38physkets_set one up so that it redirects what you want to Spam
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08:37.29physkets_The option should be under 'Settings'
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08:46.57HateSpamMailsThank you physkets_
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11:04.48FacuHello! Question: I'm new to KDE, installed 5.8.7 yesterday, and what I'm failing to understand is how to see the app menus... in Firefox I need to hit 'alt' for them to appear, but in Hexchat this trick doesn't work, and I have no app menu
11:05.02FacuIs there a way to set the menus to be seen permanently?
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11:06.02oprypinFacu, KDE doesn't hide app menus, neither does Hexchat. Firefox does, though.
11:07.01oprypinit's possible that you're running some parts of GNOME still
11:07.11oprypinand hexchat detects that and hides
11:07.24oprypinanyhow, use the much better Konversation
11:08.21Facuoprypin, I installed KDE Neon from scratch, it would be strange to have some gnome parts
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11:08.44oprypinwell you said you installed KDE 5.8.7, whatever that means, so I assumed that
11:09.05Facuyeap, understand
11:09.20oprypinI was gonna say  ask your distro's channel, but this is probably it :/
11:11.04oprypinFacu,   edit ~/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf,  gui_hide_menu = 1
11:11.48oprypinFacu,  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/what-happened-to-the-file-edit-and-view-menus#w_show-the-menu-bar-again
11:12.02oprypinFYI, Hexchat does not hide the menu on Arch Linux
11:12.34Facuoprypin, I'll try with that setting in 0
11:12.46oprypinoh right
11:13.02oprypinexit hexchat probably  while you're doing that
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11:21.10Facuoprypin, worked as a charm, thanks!!
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14:23.31Aristarhmm is there a QT5/KF5 keyboard charmap tool? my package manager search sux big dongs
14:23.49Aristarfigured i'd ask here in case anyone knows offhand
14:24.07Aristarthough i know there's other tools, i prefer to stick to QT5/KF5 stuff
14:26.00Aristaron another note... KDE4 had like 37 colors for cursor theme, only 2 by default for breeze O.o
14:26.19Aristarwell, the oxygen ones anyhow
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14:51.56Muhammad_Zwhen I move a window I have to hold Alt + left click on the title bar. how can I configure it to move using only left click without alt?
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14:53.00JanKusanagiit's never been necessary to hold alt while dragging from the title bar
14:53.04JanKusanagionly from other areas
14:53.08leszekMuhammad_Z: by default left click on the title bar and holding should work
14:53.24JanKusanagi(which can also be done without alt depending on the widget theme)
14:54.53eaglewas anyone able to use kaddressbook with fastmail?
14:55.22eagleI am getting a 404 on the ressource as described here https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=261&t=128339
14:55.31Muhammad_Zleszek, JanKusanagi: oh! *-* I have 2 monitors it's seem like it's require alt key only on one of them. on the other it's like what you sayed!
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15:24.55Pegasus_RPGHello. I'm using KDE 4.14 and PulseAudio. I find that KDE apps spontaneously change my ALSA volume settings and it's driving me crazy. How can I ensure that nothing changes the volumes except me?
15:25.15Pegasus_RPG(As it was before I installed PulseAudio, which I had to for Firefox)
15:29.47JyZyXELwhen i Ctrl+X and Ctrl+V in Dolphin it just opens a dialog "Filename for clipboard content:"
15:30.49Pegasus_RPGJyZyXEL: are you copying the name of a file instead of the file itself?
15:31.14JyZyXELshrug, yeah it seems like it
15:31.33JyZyXELbut usually Ctrl+C/V has copied and pasted the file itself
15:32.27JyZyXELit's like dolphin isn't letting me Copy or Cut a file, but only a filename
15:32.33JyZyXELno matter what i do
15:32.39Pegasus_RPGWhat if you right-click and select Copy?
15:33.04JyZyXELit only offers me "Paste Clipboard Contents"
15:33.10JyZyXELwhich does nothing
15:33.24Pegasus_RPGWhen you right-click a file??
15:33.45JyZyXELwhen i right click empty space to paste
15:34.12JyZyXELlol, but im able to move and copy files by dragging and dropping
15:34.15Pegasus_RPGTry right-clicking a file you want to copy
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15:34.41JyZyXELafter i've already copied it to the clipboard?
15:34.42Pegasus_RPGwonders if a shift or alt key is stuck down
15:35.06Pegasus_RPGYeah, I'm trying to see if the context menu offers you the Copy option
15:35.11Pegasus_RPG(Or Cut as you like)
15:35.41Pegasus_RPGIf the problem is only with the keyboard shortcut vs the action itself
15:36.12JyZyXELit looks to be in the action itself
15:36.31JyZyXELor well, technically the menu doesn't even have the usual Paste option
15:36.40JyZyXELit only has the weird contents paste option
15:36.46Pegasus_RPGThat's expected if what's on the clipboard isn't a file
15:37.03Pegasus_RPGIf it's just text (e.g. a file name)
15:37.05JyZyXELso the "Copy" option in the menu isn't actually copying the file to the clipboard
15:37.40JyZyXELi wonder if it could be Klipper that is breaking the clipboard
15:37.42Pegasus_RPGThat's what's weird indeed. Hopefully someone else here with more knowledge can help. I'm at the end of mine. :)
15:37.48JyZyXELor maybe it's some other app, like Firefox that is breaking it
15:37.58JyZyXELyou helped quite a bit already
15:38.29JanKusanagiwhat do you get if you paste that into, say, KWrite?
15:39.15JyZyXELfile:///
15:39.28JyZyXELand then the filename of the copied file
15:39.40JanKusanagiah, that's expected
15:40.05JyZyXELsomething must have hijacked the clipboard?
15:41.48JanKusanagiwell, the file URI is being copied, so it doesn't look like it
15:42.03JanKusanagiseems like Dolphin is not interpreting the contents correctly
15:42.12JanKusanagiis this from a regular folder?
15:42.18JyZyXELyeah
15:42.35JyZyXELoh wow the file transfer operations make Dolphin UI super sluggish
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16:15.52chcknrubmy kde neon plasma memory leak is gone!!!!
16:16.06chcknrubthanks
16:16.28chcknrubi donated 30 euro to kde, thanks ^_^
16:16.31chcknrubcheers
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17:51.30d9867ebhello
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18:08.22SircleI cannot increase font size of firefox, chromium menus and the place where I type in xchat. I have tried system settings > fonts and increased them. It affects other places but not the mentioned. Any clue?
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18:09.26kishore96chcknrub: Did you make any changes to your config, or did it stop after an update?
18:09.36kishore96Re. the memory leak thing.
18:13.39chcknrubi think i upgraded to latest nvidia driver
18:13.56chcknrubfor past 3 days, mem usage is only 195mb, not increasing
18:14.17chcknrubbut there was also kde updates before that, not sure how it is fixed
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18:14.49kishore96chcknrub: Nice. Which Plasma version?
18:15.10kishore96checks if there was a recent bugfix release or something.
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18:59.58piggzhi, is it possible to create a BT DUN connection in kde/plasma5?
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19:38.11chcknrubi will check at home later
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19:38.28chcknrubthe latest likely, from kde neon
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22:45.16inflammasomeThe only two KDE-based tools I use are kget and k4dirstat/kdirstat. Kget works great except for the steady stream of SSL warnings it gives (and disrupts it's downloading over). I want to totally turn that off & disable it.
22:45.53inflammasomeI don't care if I download something from an 37337 h0x0r. The warnings are hyper-annoying and useless.
22:45.59inflammasomeCan I turn that off somehow?
22:46.10inflammasomeI don't care to find KDE's root certs and update them.
22:46.52inflammasomeI just want the warning to STFU.
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22:49.06inflammasomeI'm not using KDE's browser or any other features that might be endangered by trusting all CA's. I just want kget to be quiet. Is that possible?
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