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00:01.46thiagodavidebeatrici: are you asking how to do it in code?
00:01.47davidebeatricithiago: Yes
00:02.31thiagoyou should ask in #qt or #kde-devel, depending on whether you're using KDE libraries or not
00:02.43thiagoalso, please explain what you mean by "active"
00:02.48thiagodo you mean "process running" ?
00:03.06davidebeatriciNo, it's when an icon is displayed on the tray bar
00:03.17davidebeatriciIf it's hidden, you need to click on the arrow to show it
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00:06.25thiagothat's the tray's choice, based on user settings and whether the icon is demanding attention or changing
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01:28.07mertyildiranHi, after I installed these packages: zlib1g-dev, qt5-default, libusb-1.0-0-dev. I got "The lock screen is broken" error and now I'm unable to open the interface it's black screen.
01:28.35mertyildiranMy system is KDE neon 5.9 by the way.
01:29.38mertyildiranI first tried to remove these packages I recently installed via Ctrl+Alt+F2 but it did not work.
01:30.23mertyildiranThen I tried loginctl unlock-sessions and Ctrl+Alt+F7 also black screen
01:32.18mertyildiranSo what's the solution?
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01:46.27mertyildiranThis is very similar to my situation; https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360489
01:47.41TRS-80mertyildiran unfortunately, it's usually crickets in here :/
01:47.45mertyildiranProbably installing qt5-default braked something.
01:48.16TRS-80thatt would have been my line of thinking, too, actuall now that you mentioned it...
01:48.16mertyildiranTRS-80: what do you mean with "crickets"? I don't understand...
01:48.23TRS-80quiet, dead, etc...
01:48.49mertyildiranTRS-80: oh OK. I removed qt5-default but no luck.
01:48.55mertyildiranIt seems damage is done.
01:49.59mertyildiranHow can a package from default repositories of KDE neon can brake KDE? I'm sure there is a solution.
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01:52.31mertyildiranwhen I run /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet --testing I get "QXcbConnection could not connect to display"
01:56.25Zrenmertyildiran, "qt5-default is already the newest version (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22)." ?
01:57.09mertyildiranZren: but it seems it braked my GUI?
01:57.40Zrendid you actually install anything when you ran it?
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01:58.08mertyildiranZren: it also mentioned here as (in my case incompatible Qt components were installed) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360489
01:59.26mertyildiranZren: last thing I did was installing the dependencies and compiling this program (https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall/tree/master/Linux) (bottom part)
02:00.09mertyildiranZren: please read the "Appendix B - Installing Heimdall Suite from Source:" part
02:00.48Zrendid you install the libgl1 stuff?
02:01.07ZrenDid you remove any packages when you installed them?
02:02.03Zrenwhat distro / package manager are you using anyways
02:02.08mertyildiranZren: I ran sudo apt-get install build-essential cmake zlib1g-dev qt5-default libusb-1.0-0-dev (it installed some packages)
02:02.14mertyildiranZren: KDE neon 5.9
02:02.44Zren5.9? Not 5.10?
02:03.01mertyildiranZren: then I ran sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dev (it said already up-to-date)
02:03.12mertyildiranZren: yep 5.9
02:03.54Zrenare you completely up to date?
02:03.56mertyildiranZren: then I compiled (without of course sudo rights)
02:04.20mertyildiranZren: what do you mean?
02:04.40Zren5.10 was release a month or so ago
02:04.47ZrenPlasma 5.10
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02:05.34ZrenAnd KDE Neon recently changed from Qt 5.7.1 to Qt 5.9.0 a few weeks ago
02:05.53Zrenand just recently changed to Qt 5.9.1 a day or two ago.
02:06.37mertyildiranZren: OK I have only terminal access (Ctrl+Alt+F2) What should I run to upgrade? sudo apt-get upgrade?
02:07.15Zrensudo apt update; apt list --upgradeable
02:07.18Zrenshould tell you everything that could be installed
02:07.28Zrenthen do sudo apt upgrade
02:07.47mertyildiranZren: OK I'm doing...
02:08.42ZrenDid you remove anything else when you removed qt5-default?
02:09.12ZrenAs in, did it remove other packages when it remove it?
02:09.41mertyildiranZren: after that I ran apt-get autoremove.
02:10.16Zren... and did it remove anything?
02:10.37mertyildiranZren: yes a few packages I don't remember the names.
02:12.11mertyildiranZren: should I reinstall qt5-default?
02:13.15mertyildiranZren: by the way, to make it clear, removal of qt5-default was after the "Lock screen is broken" error.
02:14.35ZrenI'm thinking you somehow updated qt5 but not everything else, but I've honestly no idea.
02:15.21ZrenMaybe there's logs kept somewhere that lists all added and removed packages?
02:16.14ZrenEg: /var/log/apt/
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02:29.20mertyildiran_Zren: I have entered from the other computer apt-get upgrade fixed everything thank you so much! :)
02:30.59mertyildiran_Zren: autoremove's log; Remove: qtbase5-dev-tools:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22), libqt5opengl5-dev:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22), qt5-qmake:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22), qtbase5-dev:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22)
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02:32.23mertyildiran_Zren: but as I said all removal was after the incident, this was the thing braked my system;
02:33.45mertyildiran_Install: qtbase5-dev-tools:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22, automatic), libqt5opengl5-dev:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22, automatic), qt5-default:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.-2+16.04+xenial+build22), qt5-qmake:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22, automatic), qtbase5-dev:amd64 (5.9.1+dfsg-2+16.04+xenial+build22, automatic)
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02:38.34mertyildiran_Zren: I pasted it actually; https://paste.ubuntu.com/25086345/
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06:08.33lordievaderGood morning
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06:13.08ftumpthi everyone
06:14.39ftumptI started experiencing issues with notification pop-ups since the upgrade to KDE Frameworks 5.36. pop-up is not fully visible, only thin vertical line of the far right part of the pop-up can be seen. I', using Arch Linux. You can find the screenshot here: https://s11.postimg.org/k3hucygzn/notification_popup.png
06:18.37ftumptis this a known bug or it's something specific to my configuration? keep in mind that I didn't change anything, it started happening after the frameworks upgrade
06:22.01asturmftumpt: the wrong placement of notifications is a regression since 5.35, but not being fully visible is new to me
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06:23.53ftumptasturm: you can see exactly how it looks on the provided URL
06:24.06ftumptasturm: it's just a vertical line...
06:29.04ftumptasturm: maybe it's the same regression, but I'm experiencing it in this way since I use two monitors? just thinking out loud...
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09:21.08AppAraathello, using Plasma 5's Clipboard (is it officially called Klipper?) - how can I select all of the contents in all buffers and redirect them to a file?
09:25.38Quetzal2I'd like to know that too ;)
09:27.20Quetzal2Maybe there's a file somewhere. Gotta check that out
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09:29.13AppAraatQuetzal2: the file in ~/.local/share/klipper looks like it's in some binary format for some reason.
09:31.35Quetzal2:·) Just found it too
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09:32.10Quetzal2It's almost readable
09:32.21oprypinthe reason for the binary format is perhaps to allow efficient rotation without rewriting the whole file
09:32.42oprypinalso the file might not be updated after every copy operation, check for that
09:34.30Quetzal2The updating frequency is ok.
09:34.49Quetzal2oprypin: yes, maybe.
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09:49.09yeehiKmail Problem: How do you create a filter which sends a canned response?
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10:05.01jzarectahi is there a kde light image display?
10:05.09jzarectasort of like an eye of gnome type app?
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10:12.09Quetzal2yeehi: ask on #kontact too :)
10:13.07Quetzal2jzarecta: gwenview
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10:58.07edgar444hello! anyone know how to get numix icons into kde? gtk usually is very nice and uses ~/.icons for icons. But i never really knew how to setup kde to use better icons.
11:01.21Quetzal2edgar444: «system settings > icons > install from file»
11:01.43edgar444but its a folder. cloned from git repo
11:02.03edgar444i tried giving index.theme
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11:03.05oprypinis there any .desktop file?
11:03.31LazyGnolledgar444: I think you have to put the folder in .local/share/icons or feed an tarball to systemsettings
11:03.40LazyGnoll*a tarball
11:03.47edgar444?? .desktop for icon folder?! nope but i tried 'ln -s /home/edgar444/.icons/numix /usr/share/icons/numix'
11:04.31edgar444oh ill try that other path then. i like things inside .local if posible :)
11:04.42LazyGnolledgar444: wait, so you have it globally installed or what
11:05.30edgar444folder is inside ~/.icons and i tried to create link. maybe kde would notice it then. ill maybe try restarting kde after.
11:06.38toskyedgar444: does numix define an index file according the xdg specs for icon themes?
11:07.39edgar444it got index.theme and i used to set it with lxappearance program
11:08.14toskyedgar444: as Quetzal2 pointed out, you can install the theme using systemsettings
11:08.15edgar444just a note, i dont have a login manager.
11:08.25toskythat's irrelevant
11:08.46edgar444maybe only if i tar it. but i do like to be able to install it as folder so i can do git pull for updating
11:09.19toskyso first install properly, then see how it is structured and change it
11:09.24toskyif you select "Get new Theme" from the "icon" pane of systemsettings there are few flavors of numix
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11:11.28toskyit's also packaged in Fedora and Debian
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11:21.39Quetzal2and arch :)
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11:23.05edgar444works! thanks for the new path. moved it to .local/share/icons and had to reboot kde, for it to show up.
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13:06.42GreenRob_pam_systemd(sudo:session): Cannot create session: Already running in a session
13:06.56GreenRob_Everything works ok if I do the same thing just from the command line, though.
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13:20.28GreenRob_If I use 'xdg-su' instead of 'kdesu', launching from the panel icom works okay, though.
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