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| 00:43.56 | adymitruk | upgrading the monitor to IPS.. seeing degradation on viewing angle when looking at text on white background |
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| 01:52.48 | genkimind | I haven't used KDE in 3-4 years. This is absolutely fantastic |
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| 01:53.36 | genkimind | Great job this everybody |
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| 02:44.15 | Cal[m] | Hey, does Okular have the feature that macOS's PDF viewer had, where you could drag and drop pages into a PDF file from other PDF files? |
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| 02:56.16 | himcesjf | Cal[m]: I don't think so |
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| 03:01.14 | himcesjf | Cal[m]: And I think you can make such feature requests on https://bugs.kde.org/ as wishlist items |
| 03:02.03 | shonudo | hello all; i can set time from the commandline, but i can't set time on kde -- shows error "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4," |
| 03:02.16 | shonudo | anyone know of a fix? |
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| 04:10.56 | gryphon85 | question. On applications such as kdevelop, when i try to get new themes or skins or templates, the window says initializing and is just stuck there. Any idea what might be causing that? kde version 4.13.2 |
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| 06:55.32 | x7C3 | i can't get bluetooth to work :( |
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| 06:57.38 | ShalokShalom | does anybody else run into flickering since the last update? |
| 06:57.43 | ShalokShalom | Intel HD 4000 here |
| 06:57.47 | ShalokShalom | modesetting |
| 06:57.52 | ShalokShalom | maybe ask in #qt |
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| 14:06.11 | shonudo | hello all; i can set time from the commandline, but i can't set time on kde -- shows error "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 4," anyone know of the cause and of a fix? |
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| 14:59.40 | yann-kaelig | Hi. On Dolphin, how can I find files who contains same words regardless of the of the order of words or if the name is composed with other symbols |
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| 15:01.15 | yann-kaelig | With find that doesn't work, 'cause he trying to find the exact same words and form of the name |
| 15:02.12 | yann-kaelig | I want to find for example all name with A + B +C regardless if the name has a symbol like - + / or anothers words than A +B + C |
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| 15:08.28 | yann-kaelig | The find option has an issue |
| 15:08.57 | yann-kaelig | for example I have two name 1) This Is My File and 2) This Is - My File |
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| 15:10.50 | yann-kaelig | If I do a search on "This Is", I get in reply the two files, but if I do a search on "This Is My" I get only the first file |
| 15:11.14 | yann-kaelig | and this is wrong 'cause the second file also has the same words |
| 15:13.49 | tosky | yann-kaelig: maybe with wildcards? |
| 15:13.53 | tosky | at least with find |
| 15:14.44 | saptech | hello all |
| 15:16.33 | yann-kaelig | tosky: Hi , What do you mean, could you pls give me an example |
| 15:16.46 | saptech | using Plasma5 v5.8.7, when I plug my android phone into the desktop it is not showing a phone icon. It does show up in Dolphin. Should it show a phone icon? |
| 15:16.49 | tosky | yann-kaelig: by "find" do you mean the "find" command on the command line? |
| 15:17.07 | yann-kaelig | tosky: no, the find option from Dolphin |
| 15:17.35 | tosky | saptech: I don't think it shows an icon on the desktop, or at least I don't remember; if it shows it in Dolphin and in the device notifier applet in the system tray, it should be fine |
| 15:18.29 | saptech | hmmm, ok. The reason I say it is because when I'm running Mate DE, it puts a phone icon on the desktop |
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| 15:20.30 | kishore96_ | You should be able to add a 'devices' plasmoid on your desktop. |
| 15:20.38 | kishore96_ | If you want it, that is. |
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| 15:22.26 | saptech | kishore96_, I'll check into it. thanks |
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| 15:33.36 | saptech | kishore96_, how do I add one for the phone? I'm fairly new to using Plasma |
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| 15:35.48 | kishore96_ | saptech: Just add a device notifer to your desktop. If you make it big enough, it will show you individual icons for your devices. |
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| 15:36.35 | kishore96_ | Right click > add widgets > device notifier. |
| 15:39.08 | saptech | ok |
| 15:44.34 | saptech | ok, added the notifier but now I can't figure how to move it |
| 15:44.57 | saptech | what happen to the controls when you hoover the mouse over it? |
| 15:50.04 | kishore96_ | saptech: You have to long-press now. :P |
| 15:50.27 | kishore96_ | There's an option to enable the hovering thing somewhere in the desktop settings. |
| 15:50.52 | kishore96_ | Right click > Configure desktop > Tweaks |
| 15:51.28 | saptech | thanks again on moving it |
| 15:51.40 | saptech | that has to be one of the worst ideas |
| 15:52.10 | saptech | I saw about right-clicking for options |
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| 16:52.17 | ntz | hello |
| 16:52.46 | ntz | is this some bug please ? http://susepaste.org/view/raw/24499352 .... they simply don't align like in kcm module |
| 17:00.57 | kishore96_ | ntz: It looks like a bug. You can report it on bugs.kde.org |
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| 17:03.29 | ntz | kishore96_: now generally speaking, how you'd debug a kcm module to provide some sane input to the bugreport ? |
| 17:03.59 | ntz | s/input/debug info/ |
| 17:05.39 | kishore96_ | I'm not sure. You can probably just describe your setup and the bug, and someone who knows more about this will ask for any other required info. |
| 17:05.49 | ntz | okay, thanks |
| 17:06.44 | ntz | however ofc, it's not exactly `the molestatory' one indeed, no big harm received, sure that is |
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| 18:07.53 | ccolorado | Ever since I upgraded kde, the "present windows", does not listen to the keybaord. Hitting esc for quitting or filter windows by typing its name doesn't work any more. |
| 18:08.05 | ccolorado | Any idea whats up |
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| 18:22.04 | Zren | ccolorado, from what version to which version? |
| 18:22.17 | Zren | Have you restarted since upgrading? |
| 18:22.46 | Zren | is it just the present windows effect shortcut that has problems? |
| 18:25.17 | Cal[m] | There are lots of filed bugs and feat. reqs. Maybe I shouldn't even bother asking for a feature from Preview. |
| 18:26.19 | ccolorado | Zren: I don't know what version I came from but the version im in is 5.10.2 |
| 18:26.39 | ccolorado | Zren: yes I have rebooterd, and its happening at my work and home computer :( |
| 18:26.53 | Zren | Cal[m], preview? |
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| 18:27.30 | Cal[m] | Zren: MacOS's PDF viewer. |
| 18:27.47 | ccolorado | Zren: I belive it's (5.10.1-1 -> 5.10.2-1) |
| 18:27.51 | Zren | https://github.com/KDE/kwin/tree/master/effects/presentwindows had no changes in 2 months |
| 18:27.56 | Zren | so it's something else in kwin |
| 18:28.55 | Zren | Hasn't been much changes since 5.10.1 |
| 18:28.56 | Zren | https://github.com/KDE/kwin/commits/master |
| 18:29.10 | Zren | Are you on wayland ccolorado or still using x11? |
| 18:29.19 | Zren | (if you don't know it's x11) |
| 18:29.41 | ccolorado | Zren: I guess x11 then |
| 18:30.26 | Zren | ccolorado, do mouse clicks work? |
| 18:30.31 | ccolorado | I don't see any recent wayland announcements on my distro. |
| 18:30.36 | ccolorado | Zren: yes |
| 18:30.46 | ccolorado | thas the only way to operate it right now. |
| 18:31.21 | Zren | ah, there's a few bug reports open already |
| 18:31.22 | Zren | https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=1445034&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=kwin&query_format=advanced |
| 18:31.43 | ccolorado | This effect has been having issues for a couple months tho. |
| 18:31.48 | Zren | 381205 and 380902 |
| 18:32.28 | ccolorado | basically it stops listening to the keybaord, but a reboot or an kwin_something --replace restarts the effect, but now not even that |
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| 18:33.03 | Zren | did your qt version bump too ccolorado ? |
| 18:33.43 | Zren | that's what mentioned in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380902 |
| 18:34.19 | ccolorado | Zren: yeah I have upgraded "recently" qt |
| 18:34.37 | ccolorado | https://pastebin.com/hwAmDB1N |
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| 18:35.10 | ccolorado | Present windows is my Alt+tab, so Its become really annoying :( |
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| 18:35.56 | Zren | is it possible to downgrade qt to 5.8.0-12 (I've no idea how myself) |
| 18:36.22 | Zren | or back to 5.8.0-11* |
| 18:36.28 | ccolorado | Neither do I, but I do see a commment that it says it didn't fix it |
| 18:36.52 | ccolorado | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380902#c5 |
| 18:36.53 | Zren | where? |
| 18:37.15 | Zren | > Downgrading all qt packages to 5.8 but leaving kwin and plasma-related packages at 5.10 fixes the issue. |
| 18:37.23 | Zren | Downgrading fixed the issue |
| 18:37.27 | ccolorado | comment 3 and 4 say's it doesn't comment 5 says it does |
| 18:37.48 | Zren | #3 was talking about downgrading plasma |
| 18:38.01 | Zren | and suggested testing downgrading qt |
| 18:38.19 | Zren | #4 was testing downgrading kwin |
| 18:38.31 | ccolorado | oh boy, lets see if I don't shoot myself in the foot :P |
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| 18:38.45 | ccolorado | Zren: but thanks a lot, I really apreciate it |
| 18:39.08 | Zren | Good luck... If I don't hear back from you, I guess I'll light a pyre for you. |
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| 18:39.39 | ccolorado | thanks. |
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| 19:42.07 | sponge | Hello |
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| 19:55.33 | rindolf | sponge: meow |
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| 20:00.47 | sponge | I installed workrave recently. It seems that for windows/gnome, there's a way of configuring workrave (registry/gconf-editor). But in kde there's no config.xml file to edit (no workrave dir at all under /home) and gconf-editor doesn't recognize workrave. Can anyone think of a way to edit workrave settings anyway? |
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| 20:03.04 | tosky | sponge: if workrave uses gconf-editor, it should always use it regardless of the desktop used |
| 20:04.19 | tosky | sponge: so it's not a plasma-related issue |
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| 20:13.18 | sponge | tosky: I think that under kde it doesn't use gconf-editor, since there are no settings in gconf that relate to workrave. I wonder where are the settings under kde (since usually under kde the settings are in /.kde or /.config |
| 20:13.45 | sponge | I think it is a kde issue |
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| 20:15.08 | tosky | sponge: I don't think so |
| 20:15.28 | tosky | sponge: the libraries used by the application decide how the configuration is stored |
| 20:15.32 | j3089te | seems Dolphin is still laggy when opening for the first time. |
| 20:15.39 | tosky | and it's under plasma, not kde |
| 20:16.04 | sponge | tosky: Should I move this discussion to #plasma? |
| 20:16.40 | tosky | sponge: if you want, but a) probably no much time around at this time of the day b) it's most likely not a plasma issue |
| 20:17.01 | tosky | sponge: I would ask workrave developers |
| 20:17.15 | sponge | unfortunately, they don't have a channel |
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| 20:18.04 | sponge | I can try asking tomorrow in #plasma. What I don't understand, is how can the program work if there are is no settings file anywhere (not in /home and not in /usr) |
| 20:19.47 | tosky | default settings |
| 20:20.00 | tosky | the file is created when the settings are changed |
| 20:20.03 | tosky | this is not unusual |
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| 20:20.37 | Wizard | Hi, how much ram does latest KDE take on 32bit? |
| 20:21.45 | tosky | less than the RAM used when start using any browser and libreoffice |
| 20:21.59 | Wizard | I'll give it a try |
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| 20:22.38 | tosky | and it's called Plasma |
| 20:23.09 | Wizard | Sorry, didn't check last couple of years |
| 20:25.02 | Wizard | To download: 780MB :D |
| 20:25.48 | tosky | which is not a measurement of RAM usage |
| 20:26.32 | Wizard | Well, last time it was starting mysql in the background. This akonadi thingy. That was the point I gave up. |
| 20:27.36 | tosky | akonadi is not part of Plasma |
| 20:27.42 | tosky | it's part of the KDE PIM suite |
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| 20:28.03 | tosky | so if you are installing KDE PIM, it will still start MySQL |
| 20:28.06 | tosky | or mariadb |
| 20:28.15 | Wizard | Then nope :) |
| 20:28.24 | tosky | then install Plasma |
| 20:28.31 | Wizard | tyvm :D |
| 20:28.31 | tosky | not the rest of the software developed by the KDE community |
| 20:29.02 | tosky | what package are you installing from your distribution? Most likely you are installing the wrong metapackage |
| 20:29.11 | tosky | if you want just Plasma, install only Plasma |
| 20:29.18 | Wizard | plasma-meta, arclinux arm |
| 20:29.23 | Wizard | archlinux* |
| 20:29.47 | tosky | it does not contain KDE PIM |
| 20:29.51 | tosky | https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/plasma-meta/ |
| 20:30.33 | tosky | so it should be fine for your requirement |
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| 20:31.19 | Wizard | I'll give it a try |
| 20:31.53 | Wizard | Is kdm shipped with it? |
| 20:32.22 | Wizard | no, sddm-kcm, whatever it is |
| 20:32.24 | tosky | no, KDM was not ported to Qt5 |
| 20:32.32 | tosky | sddm-kcm is just the configuration module for SDDM |
| 20:32.35 | Wizard | Poor KDM :( |
| 20:32.49 | tosky | so you need SDDM or another login manager |
| 20:32.51 | Wizard | Seems many things happened while I was away |
| 20:32.57 | Wizard | I have SDDM |
| 20:33.09 | Wizard | And lxqt which sucks terribly |
| 20:33.24 | tosky | (please note that SDDM, while recommended by the Plasma team, is not developed by the KDE community) |
| 20:33.51 | Wizard | I don't care :] |
| 20:34.23 | tosky | only from a support point-of-view |
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| 20:51.30 | Wizard | Does kmail need mysql? |
| 20:51.48 | Wizard | If yes, is there any other recommended mail client? |
| 20:52.33 | asturm | Wizard: you can use kmail with postgresql instead |
| 20:53.09 | Wizard | Awesome. |
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| 20:53.35 | Wizard | O_o' |
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| 21:01.25 | thiago | Wizard: akonadi requires a DB. You can choose which one |
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| 21:01.56 | GanzAndere | hello |
| 21:01.57 | GanzAndere | The file /home/stoned/tmp/saatva-amp.html was opened and contained lines longer than the configured Line Length Limit (4,096 characters). |
| 21:01.57 | GanzAndere | Those lines were wrapped and the document is set to read-only mode, as saving will modify its content. |
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| 21:02.23 | GanzAndere | I am using Kate and it seems to read only open files w/ longer than 4kb lines |
| 21:02.30 | GanzAndere | how can I configure this differently |
| 21:02.38 | GanzAndere | I could not find a config settings for ths |
| 21:03.02 | thiago | you may need to change the source code and recompile |
| 21:03.54 | GanzAndere | https://olezfdtd.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/open-files-with-long-lines-in-kwrite-kate-and-kile/ |
| 21:03.58 | GanzAndere | thiago, I see. |
| 21:04.10 | GanzAndere | Is there another editor in kde I can use that wil work without compiling? |
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| 21:05.36 | GanzAndere | https://askubuntu.com/questions/344769/why-is-there-a-line-length-limit-in-kate |
| 21:05.38 | GanzAndere | I foudn it |
| 21:05.54 | GanzAndere | it's in Settings > Configure Kate > Open/Save and ther eit is |
| 21:05.56 | GanzAndere | 4096 |
| 21:06.00 | GanzAndere | I can make it 0 |
| 21:06.18 | GanzAndere | thiago, thanks bud |
| 21:07.46 | tosky | also, please note that it's an editor by (the) KDE (community), not "in KDE" (which has no meaning) |
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| 21:16.27 | metalhead33 | Hello everyone |
| 21:16.48 | metalhead33 | Does anyone know how do I get rid of the black lines at the bottom of the screen? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290860722903056384/325020062379409420/Screenshot_20170615_231247.png |
| 21:17.10 | metalhead33 | Those black lines did not appear originally - they only made an appearence after I played an old game via PlayOnLinux. |
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