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06:03.37thereyougoanyone here ?
06:04.26thereyougoI noticed there is mysqld running but I don't need it and it looks like it used by some "akonadi" programm so I run "akonadictl stop" and it stopped mysqld server but what is that "akonadi" for ?
06:04.35thereyougodo I need it ?
06:04.51thereyougowhen I stopped it nothing happened, KDE is still working
06:05.07valorieplasma, you mean?
06:05.13thereyougoI don't know
06:05.18valorieakonadi mostly works with PIM
06:05.25valorieKDE is us, the community
06:05.47valoriePlasma is the stuff you see on your desktop, your windowing system, etc
06:05.47thereyougoso what to do ?
06:05.59thereyougoshould I ask in other channel ? what is it ?
06:06.01valoriethere is no problem, correct?
06:06.02thereyougo#plasma ?
06:06.18valorieyou stopped it successfully
06:06.24valoriewhat is the issue?
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06:06.37valorieIf you don't use PIM, you don't need akonadi
06:07.08valorieif you need mysql for something, it will start again when you start the application
06:07.13JucatoPIM = kontact, kaddressbook, korganizer, etc
06:07.17valorieAmarok uses it, for instance
06:07.20valorieoops, thanks Jucato
06:09.24lordievaderGood morning
06:10.02Jucatoo/
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07:30.11laughingtigerhi I m using jessie kde there's a problem when using the xrender the tearing prevention is grey, not available, have to change to opengl to make it work.
07:30.28laughingtigerI searched it seems to be my problem only . pls help me,  thank you.
07:31.40laughingtigerbut using opengl certain effects won't load.
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07:47.00laughingtigerwell found a work around,  just set the compositor to xrender to enable the effects, when playing videos, alt+shift+f12 to close the compositor, when finished video play, press it again.
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09:34.55themillIs there a way to reduce the spacing in the tree view of the breeze widget? The tree view gets used a lot and the whitespace there means I'm only seeing about 2/3 the number of folders in kmail, sections in kile etc etc.
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09:55.48geodb27People hi ! There seems to be a problem with akonadi. Indeed, when my laptop'cpus are busy, kmail (and thus akonadi) stop working, displaying, when I select a mail "Receiving folder's content, please wait". Is that a known bug ?
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09:57.55einar77_workgeodb27: depends on the version
09:58.00einar77_workwhich version are you using?
09:58.34geodb27I guess it's the last one : 5.4.3 on a gentoo laptop.
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09:59.26einar77_workIIRC there are two problems, one is a database option, the other is a deadlock that has been fixed in 16.12.3 (so 5.4.3)
10:00.43einar77_workhowever I purged the messages which had these information
10:00.44geodb27Oh, that's great, since I'm still having this problem, it could be the database option. Would you be kind to point me towards what I can do with this ?
10:01.25einar77_workthat's what I was looking for
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10:04.29einar77_workgeodb27: https://marc.info/?l=kdepim-users&m=148628704919123&w=2
10:04.40einar77_worktook a while, but I found it
10:04.52einar77_workit may not solve the problem, but for sure it willl alleviate it
10:04.59crog_Anyone happen to know what combination of things I need to disable to get my system clock to stop automatically updating?
10:05.16crog_I got the checkbox in the system settings time & date module
10:05.20geodb27Thank you so much einar77_work !
10:05.37crog_And timedatectl says "network time on: no"
10:05.44crog_But every 10 seconds it updates my time anyway.
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11:36.57themillWhere does klipper store its action rules? they don't seem to be in ~/.config/klipperrc (or do I need to prod it to make it save them?)
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11:42.11DocScrutinizer05kmail/akonadi fails on startup. http://paste.opensuse.org/21876764, http://paste.opensuse.org/49569809 - how to recover from that? Likely cause: filesystem / HDD / PSU failure corrupted a few files
11:45.11rdieterDocScrutinizer05: try this?   akonadictl fsck
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11:54.48themillWhy would the plasma widget for klipper and /usr/bin/klipper not share the same config file?
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12:01.32DocScrutinizer05rdieter: returns in 0.1s and has no effect
12:03.38DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/39321022
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12:06.00DocScrutinizer05odd thing: after reboot kmail worked for a maybe 2 or 3 minutes, just long enough to read one new mail. Then it didn't update email body anymore when clicking an email in header list, so I guess akonadi/mariadn must have given up at that time
12:06.39DocScrutinizer05mariadb
12:07.12DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/39993139
12:07.22rdieterDocScrutinizer05: mysqld is exiting (exit code: 1, process error: "Unknown error"), apparently, and the error output is less than helpful :(
12:07.39DocScrutinizer05indeed
12:07.45DocScrutinizer05that's my problem
12:08.38DocScrutinizer05I don't even have an idea which *.db whatever file to look for, to do whatever with it
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12:09.33ferret_tailsI'm having the damndest problem with KDE Wallet
12:09.40ferret_tailsit's not seeing my GPG keys
12:09.42DocScrutinizer05whether that "whatever" is restore a 1 week old backup, or a rm -f, or a mysql drop
12:09.47rdieterironically, appears akonadi must be running first for fsck (if not running, 'akonadictl fsck' seems to sit and do nothing)
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12:10.18rdieterDocScrutinizer05: db is under ~/.local/share/akonadi/
12:10.26rdietersomewhere
12:10.37DocScrutinizer05nuke it?
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12:11.09DocScrutinizer05it's way too large anyway, since quite some time
12:12.25rdieterfwiw, you can tweak akonadi/mysql settings /etc/xdg/akonadi/  to use smaller db sizes (performance may suffer though)
12:14.21DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/74863344
12:15.02DocScrutinizer05jr@saturn:~> l /home/jr/.local/share/akonadi/file_db_data|wc -l
12:15.03DocScrutinizer0576549
12:18.16DocScrutinizer05seems those are the raw mail bodies
12:20.56DocScrutinizer05I'd really appreciate getting my business email running again
12:22.05DocScrutinizer05ideally without completely deleting all that's been sent before some 6h ago
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12:24.02DocScrutinizer05wouldn't mysql report better error diagnostics if only I'd know where to find them?
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13:05.15DocScrutinizer05rdieter: any idea if I could advise / make akonadi rebuild the database from scratch, based on the email copies kept in .local/share/akonadi/file_db_data ? (I have no other use for akonadi's database than just a 5 addrbook entries and email)
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13:06.08DocScrutinizer05http://paste.opensuse.org/45650014 http://paste.opensuse.org/81077254
13:06.11sargonHello! is it the correct channel to ask about KDEnlive problem?
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13:18.13rdieterDocScrutinizer05: i've no experience with corrupted mysql db's, sorry.  google it?  ("how to fix corrupted mysql database"?)
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13:19.34DocScrutinizer05prolly no dice. I just want akonadi rebuild it, or generate a pristine new one and still allow me to access at least the mails
13:20.57DocScrutinizer05Write to file ./ib_logfile0 failed ... :-S
13:21.15DocScrutinizer05could mean everything
13:21.38DocScrutinizer05like a corrupted ext3 journal
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14:37.20amsharmai'm running plasma 5. is there a way to set wallpaper from bing's picture of day?
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14:38.39rdieteramsharma: I see a picture of the day plugin, but bing is not currently in the list of what's available.  I would guess it wouldn't be too hard to add more (like bing)
14:39.09amsharmardieter: i dont have any prior exp with plasmoids or qml etc.
14:39.21amsharmabut I won't mind writing some code
14:39.38amsharmaif it comes to that
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14:42.26rdieterhttps://cgit.kde.org/kdeplasma-addons.git/tree/dataengines/potd
14:42.37rdieteramsharma: ^^ kdeplasma-addons hosts the picture of the day code
14:42.59rdieterAh, I see something about bing in there , maybe master/ branch already has support for it
14:43.02amsharmait already has a bing provider
14:43.05amsharmadamn
14:43.40rdieterhttps://cgit.kde.org/kdeplasma-addons.git/commit/dataengines/potd?id=8068537eeab0332b421dc1c2afd8183ac6698616    confirmed, yay
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14:45.21amsharmaso i'll get this in plasma 5.10?
14:46.01rdieteramsharma: yes
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14:52.22Corki a few times a day need to switch between compositors cause it stops updating windows
14:52.34Corkis this a known problem, or are there a fix for it? (that doesn't involve manually switching compositor)
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15:01.35Jordan17hello everyone, im working on starting the kde environment form a non graphical live USB. is there a command i can run to gather information about the system and automaticly create conf files neaded for X? im on kubuntu 16.04
15:02.08asturmJordan17: these days we usually don't care about X config
15:02.23asturmunless you rely on a proprietary gpu driver
15:04.03Jordan17well yes ill will be relying on a driver. could i copy over the configs from a full install to get this to work?
15:05.41Jordan17ultimitly what im trying to acomplish is running live non graphical live disk, chrooting into another install and starting kde from there.
15:06.40asturmJordan17: an xorg.conf as small as 4 lines is enough
15:07.09asturmjust greate a device section with 'Identifier' (your pick) and 'Driver' (whatever proprietary driver you use)
15:07.12asturm*create
15:07.47Jordan17inside the chroot the drivers that are installd are amdgpu pro
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15:08.39toskythis is not really related to the KDE stack
15:12.30Jordan17tosky do you have a sugjestion for a channel i should be asking this question in?
15:13.14Jordan17asturm: thanks ill give it a try
15:15.54asturmJordan17: well, some ubuntu or kubuntu channel, they would also be able to tell you about any service to disable that may mess with X11 config and destroy your changes immediately
15:16.55asturmI've dealt with it a long time ago and iirc it was not very receptive to manual config changes in that area
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16:43.56DocScrutinizer05rdieter: I restored ib_logfile(0|1) from a yesterday's snapper btrfs snapshit, fixed the issue. \o/. Many thanks and cheers!
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19:07.12Kazuo_Hi, i'm having a problem with the monitor, it just shows something like a RGB old screen, and i dont know how to fix it in order to show the actual project. I'm using the 6.5.0 release on Windows 10
19:08.59d426.5.0? :u
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19:10.27Kazuo_sorry: 16.12.1
19:11.22asturmKazuo_: that's just applications. why do you think it affects your windows display settings?
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19:19.23Kazuo_I am talking about kdenlive project monitor, I add clips to the timeline but when playing the do not appear
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19:34.19Kazuo_I've done a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/eKmiDkn.jpg
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19:36.54Kazuo_See what I mean? It only displays that RGB image
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19:38.26Kazuo_Could anyone give some help?
19:39.53BluesKajKazuo_, most uisers here run linux,  not windows versions of kdenlive
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20:53.25ZrenWhat other keyboard stuff should I add? https://streamable.com/w7gzh
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22:13.45boombatowerpaste.kde.org = "I Spin Silk!"
22:13.46boombatoweruseful
22:15.53toskyboombatower: and it will continue until a solution is found to spam
22:16.10boombatowercool
22:16.32boombatowermight put that in the message
22:17.29toskyit just happened  less than 2 hours ago
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23:23.04themillThe aethetics of breeze are nice enough but it is two space hungry for me for my laptop screen (the whitespace around textboxes and in the treeviews eats so much vertical space I have little scope for actually seeing the email I am composing or seeing many items in the treeview). Is there a simple way to customise that? Or is there another theme that would work better for me?
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