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01:41.41ijwynhey guys, the "akonadi_baloo_indexer" process is for some reason eating up all my swap space and I was wondering if it's safe to kill? first time I've seen it do this...
01:42.40ijwynmy understanding is that it handles kmail searching, but closing kmail did not shut down the process apparently...
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01:57.37linex_hello
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01:58.03linex_Does anyone know if Fedora 25 is running on plasma 5.9 ?
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08:56.20JeannieG'Day
08:57.17JeannieGot a question: Is there a way to have tooltips when hovering over panel icons?
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08:58.24blablablubhi everyone.. short question: I am just really getting into this tag-based xtended attributes thing..  is there any documentaiton on this and how to use it in dolphin?  I know for example that you can use tag///SOMETAG  to acces files based on tags  I would also like to use multiple tags though..   this works  for example:   tags:///TAG1,TAG2   but if I do this:   tags:///TAG2,TAG1 (reversed order)  it does not anymore ...
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09:40.00geekhttps://vizzzion.org/blog/2017/02/plasma-meeting-web-browsers-and-app-bundles/ chromium integration with plasma is coming *-*
09:40.19JeannieChromium, oh no!
09:40.44hateball<3
09:41.29JeannieAnd lib hell bundle packages, noooooo!
09:45.33toskyehm, for chromium *now*, then firefox
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09:48.02JeannieI usable non swiss army knife non chromium qt web browser would be nice
09:48.48hateballwhats wrong with chromium
09:49.09JeannieEverything, ui, process spawning, ram usage.
09:50.02JeannieRegarding flatpak, snap and co: If plasma moves all applications to such a format exclusively, i will abandon it
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09:54.37toskyJeannie: before starting with the pitchfork, where did you read about that?
09:54.49toskyit is written nowhere
09:55.26themillAre kmail's tags stored anywhere other than in akonadi for imap resources?
09:55.45toskythe source format will be always available (as it is now); if additionally applications are also in other formats, it's something more
09:56.58toskythemill: ask on #kontact; I remember that the plan was to store them natively, and I think they should be (if I mark an email as important, I see the flag in another web client)
09:57.16JeannieHere: https://vizzzion.org/blog/2017/02/plasma-meeting-web-browsers-and-app-bundles/
09:57.38themilltosky: will do. Important is a different thing to the tags though, I think
09:58.13toskyJeannie: the question holds, it's not written
09:58.26toskythemill: oh, you mean the custom ones
09:58.33themillyeah
09:58.56toskythe plan was still the same, but I'm not sure if it was implemented
09:59.16JeannieAs i said. if äpp-bündles become "standard" I will have to abandon my Plasma 5 DE
09:59.38themillSo are they going to get lost between kmail 4.14 and 16.04?
09:59.59toskythemill: #kontact
10:00.19themillack, have asked there in spite of their /topic telling me I should ask here ;)
10:00.23toskyI have no idea, I don't remember now the history of the format change
10:00.28toskywell, you can try and waiyt
10:00.38toskyI would try a migration on a VM and see
10:01.08toskyJeannie: again, it's not written everywhere, and the source code must stay available in any way, and nothing can prevent packagers from packaging the application
10:01.10themillyeah, I might need to. There is lots of jessie→stretch that is giving me grief
10:01.59JeannieI*ll wait and see what happens.
10:02.17JeannieBut be assured, I will not use such package formats ever
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11:53.58OrochimarufanAre there any reasons why the [Delete Folder] button on a top-level folder in KMail is greyed out for an old Account that I'd like to get rid of?
11:54.24OrochimarufanOr rather, can anyone explain whatever reasons there may be?
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12:26.47AjinkyaHello, how can we disable device notifier system wide?
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12:29.36leszekAjinkya: just deactivate it from the systemtray. Though this only works for the active user. Not sure how to proceed deactivating it systemwide for every user. Some scripting maybe
12:30.28Ajinkyaleszek: I guess so but for scripting I need to understand what files to write to disable it. :(
12:30.56AjinkyaI have read lot of articles but not found anything
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12:41.24Vamp898Hi there. Im running Kubuntu 16.04 with the KDE Backports PPA and before i ask at #kubuntu i wanted to make a thing sure. I dont have "KWin" at Systemstettings --> Shortcuts --> Global Shortcuts, should it be there?
12:43.02Vamp898I want to configure the shortcut to move a window to another virtual desktop and cant find it. On previous versions of KDE it was at the place mentioned but now i can't find it anymore
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12:52.44lauritzt[m]Vamp898: You may be able to configure it in Desktop Behaviour > Virtual Desktops > Switching.
12:53.16leszekVamp898: and yes Kwin should be in Global Shortcuts
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15:16.00tobiasBoraHello,
15:16.15tobiasBoraIs the any channel for kdeconnect ?
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15:17.36Fuchsalis thinks there isn't
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15:23.28tobiasBoraOk thank you.
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15:24.20tobiasBoraI'll try to post here, maybe someone here uses kdeconnect and know how I could solve my problem
15:24.57tobiasBoraWhen I share my phone filesystem with my computer, everything works fine except one thing : I cannot access to my *external* SDCard.
15:29.53tobiasBoraWell to be more precise, when I choose to go directly to the photo folder, I can access it, but if I go from the photo folder to the root of the SD Card, the content of the folder is empty. I think that's it's because the application does not have the right to see in the Ext SD card folder, but not sure.
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15:39.47hateballtobiasBora: are you using android 6.x+ ?
15:39.57tobiasBorahateball: It's 5.0
15:40.00hateballhmmm
15:40.20hateballthen I dunno, I thought the new permissions came in 6
15:40.36hateballthen you may have to go into the app settings and manually enable extra permissions
15:40.43hateballfor the app in question
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19:24.58keithzgI have a Groovy file (named Jenkinsfile, since it's a Jenkins pipeline definition) that every time I open it in Kate I have to manually set the mode to Groovy on. Any idea what I'm doing wrong, or what's just not happening, so that it's not autodetecting that it's a Groovy script? I do have "#!groovy" at the start of it.
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19:42.06DanteDI lost the bottom panel with applications/ open applications / calander, any idea how to get it back?
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19:43.08rdieterDanteD: right click -> add panel
19:43.35rdieter(if right click doesn't respond, means plasmashell may have crashed)
19:43.39DanteDrdieter: I think that did it
19:43.54DanteDalthough I seem to have a top panel now :)
19:46.22DanteDnice how fluid it (kde is)
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21:27.24int-mainWhenever I open Google Chrome on KDE, it asks me for my GPG passphrase, any idea how to save the password and handle that automatically?
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21:51.00ijwynhey guys, the "akonadi_baloo_indexer" process is for some reason eating up all my swap space and I was wondering if it's safe to kill? first time I've seen it do this...
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21:51.10ijwynmy understanding is that it handles kmail searching, but closing kmail did not shut down the process apparently...
21:51.20toskyno, because it continues to index
21:51.28toskyif you kill it, it should be able to restart
21:51.31ijwynI should also point out that, despite that process, akonadi itself is not running
21:51.40ijwynokay, so it's safe to kill?
21:52.26toskyI would say so
21:52.51ijwynokay, thanks tosky
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22:30.16j605ijwyn: I think it consumes lots of resources for the first time it indexes. After that it shouldn't consume a lot ram or cpu
22:31.36j605I don't run kmail, sorry for the noise
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