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| 00:41.14 | xelra | How can I completely deactivate the window decorator for certain apps? Specifically Chrome doesn't need anything wrapped around, but also the battle.net launcher under wine. |
| 00:48.48 | DarinMiller | xelra: It's a little complicated to explain from the terminal but your do exactly what you want under System settings -> Window Management -> Windows Rules |
| 00:50.37 | DarinMiller | s/your/you can do/ |
| 00:51.17 | xelra | DarinMiller: Thanks. I think that's just the hint I needed. I'm pretty new to this GUI thing on Linux. So I'm just stumbling my way back to the terminal (Konsole) all the time. :) |
| 00:52.25 | DarinMiller | xelra: Sorry, when I said terminal, i meant IRC terminal... not konsole. |
| 00:53.57 | xelra | I figured. I really meant terminal though. KDE 5 is ther reason I'm trying Linux for a Desktop again. Gave up on it decades ago. So far I've only had minor setbacks (with dpi). |
| 00:54.03 | DarinMiller | xelra: you can also access the same function by right clicking on the title bar, selecting More Actions -> Special window or special Application settings |
| 00:55.51 | DarinMiller | xelra: ensure to use a distribution that uses plasma 5.7.xx and above as I find anything older is too buggy. |
| 00:56.10 | xelra | I'm on Arch. |
| 00:56.25 | DarinMiller | Make that plasma 5.6.5 and above.... |
| 00:56.36 | DarinMiller | Oh, then you are good to go. |
| 00:57.20 | xelra | Just couldn't take no dist-upgrades anymore. Every time pinning completely messed up the system when upgrading. That's when I swore to myself "No more!". :) |
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| 00:58.07 | xelra | I've already successfully changed it. |
| 00:58.15 | xelra | ^^ The decorations I mean. |
| 00:58.41 | DarinMiller | very good. I use it also for chrome and the vernerable Starcraft running under wine. |
| 00:58.57 | xelra | lol, that's exactly my 2 use-cases. :) |
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| 01:00.34 | DarinMiller | I like to run SC on it's own desktop on a 2nd monitor so I can freely move the mouse between the game and my other monitor. Too funny. |
| 01:01.26 | xelra | Have you noticed that "Special Window Settings" and "Special Application Settings" gets you to exactly the same dialogue? |
| 01:02.53 | DarinMiller | yes, i think the settings will identify the selected window/app slightly differently depending how you launch the Special settings menu.. |
| 01:03.31 | xelra | I'm not really understadning what the difference is between force, apply now, remember and those options. |
| 01:04.53 | DarinMiller | yeah, that's a littel confusing.... I select No titlebar and frame , force, and check the "yes" option. |
| 01:05.01 | xelra | And someone my rules are gone after reloading the Window Rules system dialogue. |
| 01:05.53 | xelra | Hmm. I'll have to tinker with it. Thanks for your help. |
| 01:06.39 | DarinMiller | I have seen the disappearing issue also. I never figured if i forgot to hit apply somewhere or what happens. I usually have to fiddle with it a few times to make it do what I want. |
| 01:08.54 | DarinMiller | To run SC on the 2nd monitor, I also have to set the window offset on the Size & Position Tab. Check to Position Box, use Force, and in my case, 1920,0 in the text box |
| 01:09.33 | DarinMiller | glad I could help. |
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| 01:21.58 | xelra | I was initially tempted because of the vim style. But then I thought "Meh! I got tmux." |
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| 04:57.46 | insigirl | The Jewish Holocaust is a lie created by the International Jewish mafia |
| 04:57.52 | insigirl | PLAYLIST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoYfQ7xaZ2sMTcWk4l70aa90jmrOjdmzS |
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| 04:59.29 | ircgirls | Prof. Tony Hall suspended without pay at University of Lethbridge (10/5/16) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4JKdO1zW24 |
| 05:00.26 | ircgirls | Hey boys. |
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| 05:26.45 | dubbyox | I never get framed into Holocaust Denial - I do Holohoax fraud exposure. Vicious lying & fraud by murdering Zionist Jewish Israeli psychopaths on a world wide scale. THE HOAX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY by scientist/engineer Arthur Butz. |
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| 05:29.31 | newires | An 87 year-old German woman who has the courage to study banned books and the outlawed truth in free-speech restrictive Germany, explains why the Holocaust is an evil, institutionalized lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S66iwHyKo54 |
| 05:30.13 | newires | I never get framed into Holocaust Denial - I do Holohoax fraud exposure. Vicious lying & fraud by murdering Zionist Jewish Israeli psychopaths on a world wide scale. THE HOAX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY by scientist/engineer Arthur Butz. |
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| 07:47.06 | Hailwood | Hey folks, Using Kubuntu 16.04 I've got yakuake up and running. Is there any way to get the tab titles set based on the running command? |
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| 07:57.23 | Calinou | Hailwood: I think the shell handles that |
| 07:57.26 | Calinou | try installing zsh + oh-my-zsh |
| 07:57.32 | Calinou | http://ohmyz.sh/ |
| 07:58.28 | Hailwood | Calinou, I'm actually trying to migrate away from oh-my-zsh but I've got this added which should be doing the same thing https://github.com/jreese/zsh-titles |
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| 08:09.13 | Hailwood | Calinou, Ok, so opening it in "Konsole" it seems that ZSH is doing it's job. Because the window and tab titles are changing there... just not in yakuake |
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| 10:45.07 | rindolf | wget: are you there? I found out that in a new system user, the icons on gvim are fine in plasma 5. :-( |
| 10:45.27 | wget | rindolf: yes, I'm here. Present :-) |
| 10:45.34 | rindolf | Now I may need to bisect the configuration. |
| 10:45.44 | wget | rindolf: damn. then maybe recreating the .kde config |
| 10:47.01 | wget | rindolf: this is not the first time upgrading plasma causes issues. While those who reinstall from scratcjh are not impacted. |
| 10:47.24 | wget | rindolf: but thanks for the hint. Gonna put a note on the Arch Linux kde wiki |
| 10:47.50 | rindolf | wget: I think plasma 5 is using ~/.config/ now. |
| 10:48.20 | rindolf | wget: you can check if this is the case for you too. |
| 10:48.22 | wget | rindolf: I can't say because I upgraded from kde4 and have still a bunch of conf in kde4 |
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| 10:53.30 | rindolf | wget: holy shit! Moving away the .kde* files+dirs from ~ fixed the problem in a new startx session. Thanks! |
| 10:53.43 | rindolf | wget: let me see if it sticks for the main session. |
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| 10:58.37 | rindolf | wget: it worked! My icons are ok now. |
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| 11:39.03 | rindolf | wget: after some bisecting I found out that the problem is in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
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| 11:42.09 | Kendos-Kenlen | Hi :) |
| 11:42.49 | BluesKaj_ | howdy folks |
| 11:43.29 | Kendos-Kenlen | I have a little problem : using wayland and plasma 5.8, the fonts looks very big (only on QT applications). I noticed the problem on Exherbo and ArchLinux, using fresh config or config used with xorg. |
| 11:44.38 | Kendos-Kenlen | Also, many key combinaisons doesn't work (ctrl + key or the ^ key on a french keyboard). |
| 11:47.01 | tosky | Kendos-Kenlen: does it match with the content of the Plasma 5.8 errata? https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.8_Errata#Wayland |
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| 11:48.38 | rindolf | Kendos-Kenlen: hi, sup? |
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| 11:51.07 | Kendos-Kenlen | tosky: nop |
| 11:53.23 | Kendos-Kenlen | rindolf: "sup?" ? |
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| 11:54.11 | rindolf | Kendos-Kenlen: sup? is short for "What's up?" |
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| 11:54.54 | Kendos-Kenlen | I'm not sure if the first problem is a kde-only problem as sddm default theme also have the font size problem (but not breeze theme) and everything looks too big. |
| 11:55.56 | Kendos-Kenlen | rindolf: well, testing KDE on Wayland, and trying to remove xorg from my computer :D Monday' fun :) |
| 11:56.13 | rindolf | Kendos-Kenlen: heh. |
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| 11:57.25 | wget | rindolf: thanks for bisecting. :-) So, only removing that file fixed the issue? |
| 11:57.49 | rindolf | wget: yes, I'm bisecting it further. |
| 11:58.17 | wget | rindolf: Ok. I'm waiting for your results before posting a note on the ArchLinux wiki |
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| 12:03.41 | rindolf | wget: the problem appears to be in [Icons]\nTheme = breeze. |
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| 12:15.38 | wget | rindolf: if this line is the issue, by which string has it been replaced to in the new version, I mean when the file has been regenerated |
| 12:15.41 | wget | ? |
| 12:17.54 | rindolf | wget: regenerated? |
| 12:18.12 | rindolf | wget: and it's more than one line. |
| 12:18.15 | wget | rindolf: I assume if you deleted the file, plasma regenerates a new one, no? |
| 12:18.21 | rindolf | wget: I just removed it. |
| 12:18.30 | rindolf | wget: don't know - didn't try. |
| 12:18.53 | rindolf | wget: I just started a new plasma5 session using startx -- :1 |
| 12:19.39 | wget | ok |
| 12:23.10 | pinaraf | hi |
| 12:23.18 | rindolf | pinaraf: hi, sup? |
| 12:23.34 | pinaraf | I just tried Wayland and faced a small issue, I think a missing feature |
| 12:23.53 | pinaraf | with wayland, keyboard mapping is handled by the compositor, right ? |
| 12:24.06 | pinaraf | does kwin support per keyboard layout ? |
| 12:24.14 | pinaraf | it seems not, with xinput it's possible |
| 12:24.34 | pinaraf | can someone confirm my suspicion, or did I miss something ? |
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| 12:49.13 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 12:49.25 | rindolf | wget: it doesn't recreate it in the main session |
| 12:51.04 | redeyedman | for the glory of Plasma! Eat much ram please! |
| 12:51.44 | redeyedman | Eat all of my 4GB |
| 12:56.48 | tomaz | redeyedman: if you press ctrl + esc, what's the biggest app eating your ram on that list? |
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| 12:57.32 | voyl2 | is there way to enable onscreen keyboard in latest plasma on login? |
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| 13:00.17 | redeyedman | tomaz: it is firefox now, but plasma 5 uses 193 MB, I'll check it again after few days uptime |
| 13:00.36 | tomaz | redeyedman: so, not plasma's fault? :) |
| 13:00.45 | redeyedman | not yet |
| 13:01.03 | tomaz | redeyedman: sigh... |
| 13:01.03 | redeyedman | but probably will |
| 13:01.07 | redeyedman | :) |
| 13:01.52 | redeyedman | tomaz: do you use nvidia proprietary driver? |
| 13:03.15 | tomaz | redeyedman: worse, intel. with three screens, so plasma eats quite more here than there (mostly because of all of the plasmoids / pannels on the different screens) |
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| 13:04.25 | redeyedman | haha, I use only two plasmoids: temperature widget and sticky notes |
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| 13:05.55 | redeyedman | earlier I got 800 MB in 2 days of uptime |
| 13:06.20 | tomaz | I'm currently 5 days uptime, using 178 |
| 13:06.26 | tomaz | what version do you use? |
| 13:06.40 | redeyedman | shiny new 5.8 |
| 13:06.47 | tomaz | same here. |
| 13:07.14 | redeyedman | I think it is mostly driver fault |
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| 13:07.56 | tomaz | have you tried with the proprietary and the oss driver for nvidia? |
| 13:09.00 | redeyedman | first plasma lauch - 110MB and 200 MB in 1 day with nvidia, and no problem with nouveau |
| 13:09.10 | redeyedman | launch* |
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| 13:10.19 | redeyedman | 367.35 |
| 13:10.45 | redeyedman | this is version of nvidia driver |
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| 13:22.18 | bhatt | Hi, is wikitolearn included in SOK ? |
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| 13:57.22 | bhatt | Hi, is wikitolearn participating in SOK this year? |
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| 14:43.57 | ChetManly | is there any work on a qt based disk drive spin down application? |
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| 14:45.21 | Sho_ | people still have spinning disks? |
| 14:45.30 | tosky | yes |
| 14:46.46 | ChetManly | similiar to gnome disks and if someone states partition manager Im going to lose it |
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| 14:48.40 | tosky | ChetManly: you can use gnome disks, and I think the big project for disks is partition manager |
| 14:50.00 | ChetManly | I am saying there needs to be a gnome-disks clone |
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| 14:50.55 | ChetManly | its a fabulous program |
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| 14:54.15 | rdieter_work | ChetManly: or just use gnome disks |
| 14:54.33 | tosky | and if not, I would start discussing with partition manager developers |
| 14:55.27 | ChetManly | wouldnt kde be so complete with it? |
| 14:56.43 | tosky | what is missing from partition manager? |
| 14:57.08 | ChetManly | spindown |
| 14:57.17 | tosky | also, we could start a discussion about "completeness of KDE"; while the KDE community have a lot of software, not sure if it's possible to rewrite all the software on the earth |
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| 14:57.36 | tosky | did you file a bug (actually a wishlist) against partition manager? |
| 14:57.48 | tosky | adding a feature is definitely easier than rewriting an entire program |
| 14:58.15 | ChetManly | nope didnt know those were the same thing |
| 14:58.25 | ChetManly | bug / wish |
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| 14:58.49 | tosky | well, but even without that knowledge, we have way to contacts the developers |
| 14:59.11 | tosky | which is different from "let's do a clone of xyz" |
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| 15:01.38 | rshipp | hi, i'm trying to figure out how to use the new modifier-only-shortcut feature, and bind it to open krunner. doesn't seem to be an option in the systemsettings shortcuts. I tried adding "[ModifierOnlyShortcuts] |
| 15:01.38 | rshipp | Meta=Alt+F2" to my kwinrc, but I dont know if that's the correct format, it doesn't seem to be working. |
| 15:02.05 | rshipp | anyone know how this feature works? |
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| 15:04.19 | rshipp | all i can find online is the news that it exists and how to disable it, nothing on how to actually use it |
| 15:06.41 | ChetManly | tosky: and when I think of a partition manager I think of parition manager =<1.0.3 menaing I dont suspect a PARTITION manager to do disk spindown |
| 15:06.58 | ChetManly | or what? |
| 15:08.21 | tosky | is the name so fundamental, or is the problem about the missing feature? |
| 15:08.27 | tosky | rshipp: don't know, sorry |
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| 15:09.36 | ChetManly | dont they port gtk directly to qt often? |
| 15:09.44 | tosky | uh? |
| 15:10.04 | tosky | I don't see how it answers my question |
| 15:10.09 | ChetManly | I think system monitor is an example of that |
| 15:10.20 | tosky | example of what? |
| 15:11.53 | ChetManly | gtk app ported to qt, wasnt it? |
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| 15:12.22 | tosky | the system monitor which says "KDE System Monitor" "(c) 1996-2016 The KDE System Monitor Developers"? No, definitely not |
| 15:12.49 | genstorm | there's a program called speedfan in windows world that reads out s.m.a.r.t values |
| 15:12.54 | tosky | but again, how is relevant with gnome disks and partition manager? |
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| 15:13.26 | tosky | partition manager reads SMART values too, if I understand it correctly it's about a specific feature |
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| 15:18.50 | torpet | KDE Telepathy is giving me a hard time on Arch Linux. I can't for some reason login to Jabber accounts. There is no "save password" checkbox and there also is no "telepathy-kde" entry in KWalletManager. Any idea how I could debug the problem? |
| 15:19.24 | torpet | I think ktp auth handler is the culprit here. |
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| 15:29.30 | ChetManly | these are some brilliant arguements |
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| 15:33.44 | veqz | on kde neon: does anyone know how I can repair/reinstall akonadi? It's failing to start, and I'm not getting any wiser when looking at the logs... |
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| 16:26.48 | inkbottle | Hi, had anyone had issues when selecting attachments in Kmail: on my box 2 files are always selected in one go, no way to select only one |
| 16:27.14 | inkbottle | Anyone heard of such thing? |
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| 16:27.50 | inkbottle | I have a screen capture demonstrating the problem |
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| 17:38.42 | wget | rindolf: Do you have succeeded to isolate the problem now? :-) |
| 17:39.21 | rindolf | wget: yes, I did - removing the [Icons] section with its single directive did the trick. |
| 17:39.46 | wget | rindolf: damn. :-) Do you have opened a bug report on the kde bugs instance? |
| 17:40.27 | rindolf | wget: no, not yet. |
| 17:41.26 | wget | rindolf: that will be your next step then :-) |
| 17:41.26 | wget | quite overwhelmed here with work. a farm of servers were not supposed to craash. damn M$FT |
| 17:41.51 | rindolf | wget: they all crashed? |
| 17:42.07 | rindolf | wget: Blue screen of death? |
| 17:43.03 | wget | nope. office 2016 updates do not come with windows update any more. Office unstable, TSE crashing and bootlooping because the TSE wanted to make updates while Office was doing their in the background. A big mess. |
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| 17:43.37 | wget | I really hesitate. Maybe gonna reinstall everything from scratch and update to Windows Server 2016 in the process... |
| 17:44.00 | wget | :D |
| 17:44.00 | wget | I hate touching to MS stuff. |
| 17:44.12 | rindolf | wget: heh, welcome to the club. |
| 17:44.22 | rindolf | wget: you're in good company. |
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| 17:45.04 | rindolf | wget: these are some factoids I came up with about Windows Update - http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Windows-Update/ |
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| 17:51.03 | wget | rindolf: haha so true; had the time to install an ArchLinux server manually with a nextcloud in it, while windows hasn't finished to install a simple quick fix. :D |
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| 17:57.53 | rindolf | wget: heh. |
| 17:59.08 | rindolf | wget: I normally install Archlinux using the manjaro GUI installer. |
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| 17:59.32 | rindolf | wget: the new Arch installation procedure confuzzles me. |
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| 18:01.32 | Leoneof | wget: go to linux channels, you will get a lot of highlights |
| 18:01.33 | Leoneof | :] |
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| 18:10.04 | wget | Leoneof: I know :-) but since curl becomes more and more widely used, it is becoming quite calm now :-) |
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| 18:15.31 | demlak | hi |
| 18:16.46 | demlak | since my last archlinux update i got two strange problems in KDE:.. 1. my shortcut of meta-key was configured to open krunner.. now it opens also startmenu at the same time.. and sometimes only startmenu.. sometimes onl krunner.. |
| 18:17.10 | demlak | 2. after boot there are no desktop panels.. i have to restart plasmashell to get my panels.. |
| 18:18.00 | wget | demlak: you are not the only one having issue since the last 5.8 upgrade. |
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| 18:18.19 | vip | hello |
| 18:18.21 | wget | rindolf and me have been discussing about a similar issue with plasma |
| 18:18.42 | demlak | is there any fix? |
| 18:18.51 | demlak | or just downgrade? |
| 18:19.10 | vip | how to "save" view in file dialogs? e.g. when saving files. I've got huge icons, but I want it smaller, and don't want to ctrl+scroll every time? |
| 18:19.47 | rindolf | demlak: does it also happen in a new system user account? |
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| 18:20.23 | demlak | i just use one account.. did not add a new one |
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| 18:21.06 | rindolf | demlak: well, the problem may be in your local ~/.* configuration |
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| 20:00.19 | davidbrooke | anyone know what package is associated with the on screen volume icon for kde? |
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| 20:03.20 | Zren | davidbrooke, plasma-pa 's VolumeOsd extends the osd in plasma-workspace/lookandfeel/contents/osd/Osd.qml |
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| 20:04.05 | Zren | the icons themselves are part of the desktop theme |
| 20:06.40 | davidbrooke | Zren: I'm having a weird issue where the osd isn't showing when the volume media button on the keyboard is pressed. The popping sound increases and decreases but no osd volume icon. I thought about just trying to re-install the associated packages 1st. |
| 20:07.57 | Zren | oooh, you have kmix don't you. |
| 20:08.29 | Zren | do you have 2 volume icons in the taskbar davidbrooke ? |
| 20:08.30 | davidbrooke | Zren: yes I usually disable it |
| 20:09.40 | davidbrooke | Zren: so there is no confusion....I don't have two volume icons now because I usally disable the kmix right after the initial installation |
| 20:09.51 | Zren | oh |
| 20:10.04 | Zren | so you've relogged since it was enabled? |
| 20:10.23 | davidbrooke | Zren: yes I have rebooted many times |
| 20:12.15 | davidbrooke | Zren: no luck on the reinstall idea....no change after the reinstallation |
| 20:12.28 | demlak | interesting.. when i change shortcut for startmenu.. for example to "a".. it opens when i press a.. for sure =) but it still opens also, wenn i press meta-key... BUT.. when i remove shortcut for startmenu, it does not open, when i press meta key |
| 20:12.52 | demlak | s/wenn/when |
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| 20:13.25 | Zren | so you removed kmix altogether with apt remove kmix? |
| 20:13.48 | davidbrooke | Zren: I can see the osd volume icon when I....1st select the volume icon in the panel, by a left mouse click and pressing the up or down volume buttons |
| 20:15.06 | davidbrooke | Zren: kmix is still installed ....I just disable kmix from autostarting and docking in the panel |
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| 20:16.04 | demlak | and btw.. startmenu does not open, when i press shortcut for krunner "alt+f2".. which is also bind to meta-key.. btw, i'm using "ksuperkey" |
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| 20:16.52 | davidbrooke | Zren: this issue is happening in two situations: 1- new installation 2- an existing upgrade |
| 20:25.43 | davidbrooke | Zren: Is kmix suppose to be removed when using plasma-pa? or can it be disabled in the fashion I have described? |
| 20:28.07 | demlak | wget rindolf i found the problem with the meta key.. i think... at github repo of ksuperkey, there is a not, that ksuperkey is now implemented in plasma 5.8.. so there are two instances in conflict with each other on my system.. |
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| 20:28.33 | rindolf | demlak: what? |
| 20:29.09 | demlak | https://github.com/hanschen/ksuperkey/commit/cebf3ea061d7a98f4f33d94c94bed356dae453ee |
| 20:29.31 | demlak | 20:16:46 demlak | since my last archlinux update i got two strange problems in KDE:.. 1. my shortcut of meta-key was configured to open krunner.. now it opens also startmenu at the same time.. and sometimes only startmenu.. sometimes onl krunner.. |
| 20:29.58 | demlak | i was using ksuperkey since a year or so |
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| 20:39.54 | demlak | ok.. well.. ksuperkey is now integrated into KDE... but how to configure it? there are several commandline parameters to use.. how to use them, wehen ksuperkey is now default in KDE? |
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| 20:42.28 | Zren | davidbrooke, no clue, I guess kmix does something during the upgrade and tries to steal the global shortcut? |
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| 20:53.26 | davidbrooke | Zren: I have uninstalled kmix and the result is the same |
| 20:54.13 | Zren | did you relog after? |
| 20:55.11 | Zren | are the shortcuts set in the global shortcuts > audio volume? |
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| 20:58.12 | wget | demlak: do you have an idea to open the k application menu applet with only the <meta> (also known as windows or super key)? |
| 20:58.24 | davidbrooke | Zren: what are the short cuts you are referring too? |
| 20:58.40 | wget | for now, If I want to use meta , I need to use it in cobination with another key: I did <meta>+< |
| 20:59.00 | demlak | i don't understand your question |
| 20:59.59 | wget | demlak: do you know what is the application launcher about? |
| 21:00.15 | Zren | davidbrooke, was referring to these ah, i guess they would if |
| 21:00.18 | wget | the menu where we call our our apps (not krunner) |
| 21:00.23 | Zren | davidbrooke, was referring to these https://i.imgur.com/CwLCXDb.png |
| 21:01.14 | wget | demlak: this is this feature I want to have: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=84602 |
| 21:01.14 | wget | use the meta key as a shortcut key like on windows |
| 21:01.15 | demlak | i still don't understand... in plasma 5.8 it seams, that the application launcher opens on using just meta key |
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| 21:01.39 | davidbrooke | Zren: yes the three volume assignments are there: up down and mute as shown in your photo |
| 21:01.56 | wget | demlak: I'm on plasma 5.8 ans this is not what I have. |
| 21:02.07 | wget | pressing the windows key does <NOTHING> :D |
| 21:02.10 | demlak | wget: are u using ksuperkey? |
| 21:02.21 | wget | demlak: nope. Should I? |
| 21:02.25 | demlak | nope |
| 21:02.54 | demlak | go into shortcut menu and give app.launcher any shortcut.. meta key should work then, too |
| 21:03.07 | demlak | do you open it by using alt+f1? |
| 21:03.50 | wget | demlak: I know I can specify a shortcut from there, but using only the meta key does not work. I need to use another key in combination with the leta key |
| 21:03.52 | wget | *meta |
| 21:04.16 | wget | so meta+w or meta+< (-> what I use npow) work fine |
| 21:04.17 | demlak | use standard shortcut alt+f1 |
| 21:04.32 | demlak | then "only meta" works per default TOO |
| 21:05.19 | wget | demlak: I defined Alt+F1, but pressing meta does not trigger the menu. Nothing happens |
| 21:05.24 | wget | I need to use ksupersky then... |
| 21:05.36 | wget | This is basically what it does: mapping <meta> to alt+f1 |
| 21:05.52 | wget | demlak: where did you see plasma 5.8 introduced the feature of ksuperkey? |
| 21:05.55 | demlak | as you are able to read on the given github link.. ksuperkey is integrated in plasma 5.8 |
| 21:06.19 | demlak | https://github.com/hanschen/ksuperkey/commit/cebf3ea061d7a98f4f33d94c94bed356dae453ee |
| 21:06.43 | wget | demlak: damn. Why the hell it is not working on my side. While I have plasma 5.8 |
| 21:06.46 | demlak | but.. it seems it is just the feature itself.. not the program.. there is no instance running |
| 21:06.53 | wget | demlak: do I need to configure something in my shortcuts? |
| 21:07.10 | demlak | i don't know.. i just found this out a few minutes ago |
| 21:07.17 | Zren | davidbrooke, default theme (breeze)? |
| 21:07.36 | demlak | i also need info on it.. because i want to configure it.. i want meta to open krunner.. not app.launcher |
| 21:08.06 | Zren | does you volume go up/down when you press the key, but doesn't show the osd? |
| 21:08.07 | davidbrooke | Zren: breeze dark |
| 21:08.14 | Zren | your* |
| 21:08.28 | wget | demlak: which linux distribution are you running? |
| 21:08.36 | demlak | archlinux |
| 21:08.44 | wget | demlak: I'"m on Arch too,maybe it has not been compiled with |
| 21:08.55 | wget | demlak: we should ask the maintainer |
| 21:09.20 | wget | demlak: but yes, using the meta key to open krunner whould be even better IMHO :-) |
| 21:09.30 | wget | demlak: I request the same feature as you then. I need it :D |
| 21:09.49 | davidbrooke | Zren: the issue is as follows: 1- the volume osd doesn't show when the volume media buttons on the keyboard are pressed but the actiacl volume does change as expected |
| 21:10.17 | wget | demlak: ping me if you have any news. Thanks for your hints. AFK now. |
| 21:10.17 | davidbrooke | Zren: 2 - the poppping sound effect when changing volume is working as expected |
| 21:10.32 | Zren | davidbrooke, do you have multiple screens? |
| 21:10.44 | davidbrooke | Zren: one screen |
| 21:12.50 | davidbrooke | Zren: 3 - the volume osd will only show if the mouse curser is resting on the panel...then the volume osd acts as expected...once the mouse curser is moved off the panel...the volume osd is no longer displayed when trying to use the volume via the keyboard media keys |
| 21:13.33 | Zren | "panel" = the icon, or anywhere on the panel? |
| 21:13.52 | davidbrooke | Zren: anywhere on the panel |
| 21:15.45 | davidbrooke | Zren: 4 - I have tested both packages by themselves: plasma-pa installed abd kmix uninstalled....plasma-pa uninstalled and kmix installed...no change in the result |
| 21:16.35 | Zren | what version of kde? and what distro? |
| 21:16.48 | Zren | sound feedback = 5.8 i think |
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| 21:17.25 | Zren | and it's working for me in neon |
| 21:17.26 | davidbrooke | Zren: plasma 5.8 kf5 5.27 apps 16.8.1 gentoo |
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| 21:21.12 | davidbrooke | Zren: I am updating a neon 5.7 install |
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| 21:22.12 | Zren | davidbrooke, was it working correctly on your gentoo before? |
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| 21:24.26 | davidbrooke | Zren: yes on the upgrades....I had four computers with plasma 5.7.5 kf5 5.26 apps 16.8.1.....the volume osd worked as expected. |
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| 21:24.55 | davidbrooke | Zren: I have one new install that has never worked correctly |
| 21:26.26 | Zren | davidbrooke, what's the qt version on gentoo? |
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| 21:30.29 | davidbrooke | Zren: qt 5.6.1 |
| 21:33.59 | t4nk721 | is there any stipend for kde Sok? |
| 21:35.51 | valorie | t4 |
| 21:35.53 | valorie | oops |
| 21:36.17 | valorie | t4nk721: no, some goodies and a certificate upon completion |
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| 21:37.21 | valorie | the value is the mentoring -- and of course, for the team, the work you do |
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| 21:54.23 | demlak | wget: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124954/ |
| 21:54.29 | demlak | https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/08/modifier-only-shortcuts-available-in-plasma-5-8/ |
| 21:54.40 | demlak | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367685 |
| 21:54.54 | demlak | and: https://m.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/55udc1/how_do_i_stop_the_meta_key_from_opening_the/ |
| 21:55.01 | demlak | i'm out for today.. bye |
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| 21:59.32 | invinci | I am beginner, I was looking for Sok ideas I could find only one idea at https://community.kde.org/SoK/Ideas/2016, is there any other place to find ideas for sok? |
| 22:00.00 | valorie | invinci: have you been using KDE software? |
| 22:00.23 | valorie | many good ideas come from users who want to improve or fix something |
| 22:00.31 | invinci | not till now but I am right installing it |
| 22:00.38 | valorie | ah |
| 22:00.38 | invinci | *now |
| 22:01.18 | valorie | I would say that most ideas are developed within the teams, probably in their maillists or IRC channels |
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| 22:01.54 | valorie | so once you figure out what you are interested in, you can then contact that team or teams directly |
| 22:02.07 | invinci | how can I find a team? |
| 22:02.55 | valorie | tell me what you are interested in, and I'll help you find them |
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| 22:03.33 | valorie | but this is not a program made with menus of ideas |
| 22:03.50 | valorie | they are developed out of the needs of the users and the teams of devels |
| 22:04.20 | invinci | I know javascript, python/django have worked in few startups for development of web sites...I want to work in web development |
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| 22:05.10 | valorie | then join the KDE-www mail list and after poking around on the website, please write to that and explain what you would like/are willing to do |
| 22:06.11 | valorie | there is also #kde-www although it's rare to find conversation there |
| 22:06.40 | invinci | thanks a lot valorie sir, your helping manners really appreciated..so I will be asking for webdevelopment projects and teams. |
| 22:08.07 | valorie | heh, I'm no "sir" |
| 22:08.19 | valorie | in fact, a grandma |
| 22:08.53 | invinci | :) no offence |
| 22:08.58 | valorie | invinci: you are also welcome to the #kde-soc irc channel, and the KDE-soc mail list which is for all students |
| 22:09.24 | invinci | do you think I have enough time for sok? |
| 22:09.43 | invinci | as I am starting right this moment..actually an hour ago |
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| 22:36.55 | davidbrooke | Zren: I changed the panel visibility setting from: Auto Hide to: Windows Can Cover.....and the volume osd works as expected.... |
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| 22:54.47 | davidbrooke | Zren: The neon 5.8 under the same conditions results in the same output.....so there are two distros that fail |
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| 23:53.38 | davidbrooke | Zren: I filed a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370433 |
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