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02:08.25Ipsilonso does kdeconnect still require the kde desktop? I'm trying to figure it out, but I don't find a good writeup on it
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02:54.24Sir_Designer!check Sir_Designer
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02:57.16ycareneI'm having trouble launching apps from my desktop, It's a script, if I launch it from the terminal, it works, but from the desktop, it starts to run, then terminates.  I tried setting to run from terminal but there's no error message that would explain what's going on.
02:58.49ycareneIt also runs fine if I launch it from cairo-dock
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03:12.00thiagoycarene: check ~/.xsession-errors-:0 or ~/.xsession-errors
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04:54.45redxHi, I'd like to see if anyone has issues with the kde taskbar incorrectly showing app icons on the wrong taskbar on the specific screen?
04:54.49redxhttp://i.imgur.com/1fq8Xrr.png
04:55.14redxthis is what i've been dealing with.
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05:01.19redxAnd I'm running kde 5.7 with latest updates
05:01.35redxArch Linux
05:02.38ycareneAnyone able to tell me why scripts launched from the plasma folder view don't run properly?
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09:12.40recusantIs this a good place to ask for help?
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09:16.55Sauerlandit is a place,but I do not know, if it is a good one.......
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09:20.49recusanti'll give it a go :)
09:21.08Sauerlandso ask
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09:25.17recusantusing Neon. New to Linux generally, but i'm not useless. Plasma version 5.7.3. I want to have my NAS shares automount. I've done a little reading and it seems that autofs is what i need but i've just read that systemd can do it already but i haven't found much info on it. Any pointers?
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10:03.44AuroI am a beginner. I want to contribute to open source. Any help?
10:04.50recusanti'm a beginner too. I would say learn how to use it and file bug reports/contribute on forums.
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10:11.08cb400fAuro: contribute to kdepim, it needs to be better when I migrate to kdepim5 in a couple of months ;-) ... checkout the code from git, get in touch with the dev irc channels and mailinglists, find bugs on bugs.kde.org... and.. go to work.. simple as that
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10:13.12Aurocb400f: Are you currently working on kdepim?
10:13.46cb400fnope, I'm not a programmer.. I do translations and some docs
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10:17.11cb400fI like this quote from Linus Torvalds: "I get the question of "Where should I start?" fairly often and my advice is just don't even ask that question. It's more like if you're not interested enough in one particular area that you already know what you want to try to do, don't do it. Just let it go and then when you hit something where you say, "I could do this better" and you actually feel motivated enough that you go from saying that to doing that,
10:17.12cb400fyou will have answered that question yourself." - Linus Torvalds
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10:19.28Auroyeah, reading about kdepim right now ;-)
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10:25.06AuroWhat are the prerequisites?
10:25.59AuroI mean on what programing languages is it based on?
10:26.24cb400fC++ and Qt mainly.. like most of kde... maybe some QtQuick/JavaScript too
10:26.44Aurocool. I can do that!
10:27.22MayzieHey guys. I started using KDE (5.7) for the first time, previously being a GNOME and Windows user. I've compiled a list of things that I've encountered. I haven't encountered any bugs (kudos; excellent work!), and it's mostly composed of quality of life improvements / polish. Would you guys be interested in this list / would you find it helpful?
10:28.31cb400fMayzie: you can make suggestions or report bugs at bugs.kde.org ... remember to search for existing reports first
10:28.49MayzieOkay. It's mostly just these: https://paste.kde.org/pg9vzagvl
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10:31.06MayzieAre those suitable for bug reports?
10:32.32cb400fdoubleclick in dolphin is an option.. you can enable doubleclick in mouse settings in systemsettings
10:32.50MayzieYeah I know, but that affects everything.
10:33.17MayzieIncluding the buttons in System Settings.
10:35.41cb400fyou can also select files and folders in dolphin with single click by clicking the "+" overlay icon when you hover stuff
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10:36.32MayzieOh cool, did not know that.
10:36.43MayzieI think that cancels out the first bullet point, then. That's fine for me.
10:37.34cb400fmost of the issues seems to be well know ones.. like the windows key to open the menu.. Qt doesn't support that, though someone came up with a hack for kde4, dunno if that's still valid.. but a few of them might be worth bugreports
10:38.43cb400fyou can set the timeout for the screenlocker in systemsettings -> desktop behaviour -> screen lock
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10:38.51MayzieAh
10:39.01Aurothat '+' thing was indeed new to me. :)))
10:39.38Mayziecb400f: Thanks :-)
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10:40.23cb400fcan gnome really connect to wifi before logging in when using NetworkManager?
10:40.48MayzieFor some reason I was looking in Power Settings. Even though now that I think about it that's a silly place for it to be.
10:40.51Mayziecb400f: Yeah.
10:40.57MayzieI used to always wait for it to connect before logging in.
10:41.32MayzieBecause I autostart several applications that require an internet connection, which kinda stuff up if there isn't one immediately available. (primarily Electron applications)
10:41.48MayzieSo I have to restart them.
10:41.50cb400fI thought that was a limitation of NetworkManager itself, guess it requires gnome-keyring to also be opened before login
10:42.48cb400for kwallet in the case of kde... to have the passphrases
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11:08.37Leoneofmost are saying about KDE is bloated, but i see it's still missing a lot, something like gui to control cpu freq, firewall too? -_-
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11:25.30NakatoLeoneof: That's probably a reference to mem reqs of the desktop environment, but you'd have to ask the person saying that for more info.
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11:27.34NakatoI don't really see eather of those tools being all that popular these days, so I'm not supprised they don't exist.  You could always look at how to create plasmoids to add a GUI in front of some scripts
11:28.16Leoneof|2i'm "user", no dev :]
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15:48.07kharitaHi
15:48.32kharitaI wish to contribute to kde organization
15:48.45kharitawhere should I start from
15:48.57kharita:)
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15:55.38marcdeopkharita: that depends on how you want to contribute ;-)
15:56.09marcdeopyou can always have a look at https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved
15:56.49kharitaI wanna contribute as a developer in marbles
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15:58.20user9871Hey, I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I can't find a definitive answer to this: Does Plasma 5 support configuring KWin when running under Wayland, for example touchpad/mouse settings or screen options like resolution?
15:59.27kharitaI am new in kde so what should I do
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16:00.47murnuxkharita, you can start with junior bug fixes to warm up.
16:01.03murnuxhttps://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/development
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16:01.52tomleb_Anyone using the new release of kdeconnect ?
16:02.15murnuxtomleb_: waiting for arch to push the update to stable.
16:02.23marcdeophere waiting for Fedora ;-)
16:02.45tomleb_murnux: I'm using kdeconnect-git from aur
16:03.10murnuxnot a bad idea, but as of late im trying to avoid doing that for stability sake.
16:03.21tomleb_I can't figure out how to use the runcommand feature
16:03.31tomleb_I find kdeconnect's documentation lacking
16:03.41kharitamurnux, okay
16:05.02tomleb_murnux: I usually do that too, but I wanted to try the new features, will switch back to stable once it's out
16:07.17tomlebAlso would like to know if I can use another editor to reply sms
16:07.49murnuxI would expect it to grab your default editor?
16:08.12tomlebNo, it's their own editor
16:08.48tomlebWhich really isn't an editor, just a popup window with the message received and a textarea
16:09.15murnuxAh okay, well that makes sense then, it has special functionality to work with sms, an editor won't work.
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16:11.07tomlebWouldn't be too difficult to allow another editor though, at the end of the day it's just taking text in
16:12.41murnuxWell, the kdeconnect folks would have to figure out how to use editors save functionality to send the message. Besides, SMS barely allows for any styling, does it really matter?
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16:13.59tomlebOh sure, it wouldn't be for formatting or anything, just for better integration with the whole de/wm
16:14.22murnuxWell you could contact the dev/devs and request that as a feature.
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16:25.45kharitaHow can I build kde-marble in ubuntu-desktop enviornment
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16:27.54murnuxDoes https://marble.kde.org/sources.php help?
16:27.57murnuxkharita ^
16:30.04thiagokharita: tell us where the build failed.
16:31.27kharitaWhen I use this command cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DWITH_KF5=TRUE -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr ~/marble/sources
16:31.43kharitaIt'll gave an error
16:31.52kharitaConfiguring incomplete, errors occurred!
16:32.17rdieterkharita: need more from the cmake output to determine why
16:32.33rdieterguesses a missing build dependency
16:32.51thiagokharita: "errors occurred" means there was something else that went wrong. Look up.
16:33.03thiagokharita: if you don't know what to look for, pastebin the complete output.
16:33.13rdieterkharita: fyi, no need for -DWITH_KF5=TRUE either, it builds for kf5 only these days
16:33.37rdieter(if building some recent version anyway)
16:34.02kharitaFor recent version what command I should type
16:34.37thiagowhat you typed is fine
16:34.39thiagopastebin the output
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16:35.32kharitahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23103418/
16:35.57thiagolooks like you didn't install certain parts of Qt
16:36.11thiagoinstall your development packages for QtDBus, QtWebKit and QtWebKitWidgets
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16:43.27kharitaIt gives something like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/23103438/
16:43.54thiagoadd the one it's asking for
16:44.29kharitaQt5Script ?
16:44.38thiagoyes
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17:16.55feepsometimes when kwin crashes, I can't open yakuake anymore
17:17.07feepthis is terrible, since I sometimes have long running programs in it
17:17.25feepeven if I try to toggle it with dbus, nothing happens.
17:18.10feepthough obviously a possible solution would be for kwin to not crash, like, once a day
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17:21.19feepoh in other news, in case anyone wants it, this 57 line SDL program kills kwin repeatably
17:21.53feepapparently via a null pointer in qtscript or something
17:22.31feephm, I'mma update to newest and see if it still happens first
17:23.43kharitathiago when I make then it give this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/23103550/
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17:29.57kharitaWhen I build kde-marble then this give an error after completion of 49%  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23103550/
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18:44.00DrSlonyHello, was wondering, how does kdevelop stand up to codeblocks or some other popular IDEs with regard to C++?
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19:05.35marcdeopDrSlony: the best thing is to try it, specially because the latest version has a full rework
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19:07.50DrSlonyyeah but im one point above clueless when it comes to C++ so i shouldnt be the one to judge ;]
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19:59.03wgetHi guys. In okular do you know how I can force a shortcut key to the review hightlighter tool? I searched in the shortcut settings, but I'm unable to define a shortcut for that review tool directly. Each time I need to make use of the highlither, I need to click on the corresponding toolbar button. This is really anoying and makes me loose much time.
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19:59.33wgetEspecially as I have a bunch of text to highlight :-/
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