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03:02.20Zrendebates using solid black gridlines so other themes don't look ugly.
03:02.46Zrenhttps://i.imgur.com/UQqTABI.png <= Sacrifice breeze light or stop being lazy and make it configurable?
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03:05.52kendrickhey there, my wife upgraded her laptop to kubuntu 16.04, which has plamsa 5 (?) -- when it suspends, and she goes to unlock her desktop, the lock screen is totally unresponsive
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03:06.39kendricktyping does not enter anything into the password field. there's no blinking cursor in there. clicking her username or "New session" does nothing, nor does the "Unlock" button
03:07.27kendrickevery time i Ctrl+Alt+F1 out of the graphical display, and over to this terminal where i'm IRC'ing, i hear a "duh-duh-duh-DUNNN" KDE sound effect (the default one for when external power is removed, iirc)
03:08.09kendrickall of her GUI apps are trapped :) (firefox, etc.) -- how do i debug this?  i'm finding tons of questions about kde lock screen problems when i search google, but so many are from 2011-2014, and not relevant. :(
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03:08.38kendricki've not taken the plunge, and am still using Kubuntu 14.something, with... what, Plasma 4?
03:08.56genstormkendrick: this is likely due to old version of Plasma-5 being used by Kubuntu 16.04
03:09.04kendricki admit, i've kind of lost track of linux desktop development
03:09.25kendrickgenstorm - interesting.  is there maybe a PPA we can fetch newer stuff from?
03:09.31genstormno idea
03:09.35kendrickdarn
03:10.14genstorm(I'm not a Kubuntu guy)
03:10.36kendrickany clues how to tell what's up?  strace, etc etc? :)
03:10.53genstormit really is a waste of time to debug this imo
03:11.23genstormknown issues that have been solved but require major version upgrades that are not done within an *ubuntu release
03:11.54kendrickgenstorm - well, i'm wondering if there's a process i can kill, or sent a HUP signal to, or _something_
03:12.08genstormplasmashell
03:12.14kendricki mean, she's survived rebooting the poor thing when this happens, but if i can get her back into her desktop, that'd be swell
03:13.18kendrickhorray! i killed the process & her screen unlocked immediately.
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03:14.32kendrickwell that definitely helped.  worst case scenario, if she's got this booted up long enough for it to go to sleep, and plasmashell to go berzerk like that again, we have a solution
03:14.36kendrickthanks genstorm!
03:14.42genstormyw
03:14.54kendrickcya!
03:15.01genstormand watch out for the next distro upgrade to get it asap
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03:42.30ZrenThere's always the kubuntu ppa's
03:42.37Zrenbackport ppa's*
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03:46.19ZrenHmmm, looks like the backports are at kde 5.6.5 atm.
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04:56.42paranoidabhihi1
04:57.16paranoidabhiI deleted network manager in kde plasma 5.6 and then reinstalled it. But it no more shows in system tray.
04:57.19paranoidabhiany ideas?
04:57.29paranoidabhithere is no entry to enable it also.
04:58.07valoriethe application, or the widget?
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05:23.40paranoidabhivalorie, it appeared in the system-tray. I did apt remove network-manager
05:27.00Zrenhttps://i.imgur.com/M9mxzI4.png Should I use [link] or [url] or [city] or [Check] or ...?
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05:30.35jonnyblazehi im using a short script i found on the arch wiki to disable panel shadow, but it only works when i run it from terminal, and not when i add it to startup anyone have any idea why?
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05:44.29valorieZren: start typing a city and see if it's there
05:44.43valorieif not, try another a bit larger
05:45.17Zrenvalorie, um. I'm designing the dialog box lol.
05:45.45valorieparanoidabhi: if you have reinstalled it, try adding the applet from the "hamburger" menu > add widgets
05:46.52valorieZren: check looks good to me
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05:47.33MayzieZren: What's the purpose?
05:49.46ZrenMayzie, to confirm the city https://i.imgur.com/k28OJX3.png since OWM has a couple duplicates.
05:50.18MayzieWhy is the column called Link then?
05:50.29MayzieIs it meant to open up a web page?
05:52.58ZrenYeah, I ended up using "City Webpage" https://i.imgur.com/37OV05L.png
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05:55.05MayzieHmm, maybe column name as "City Webpage" (or "City Website"), and then "View Weather" as the link, or something?
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05:58.54paranoidabhivalorie, what widget?
05:59.16paranoidabhiThe network manager if missing from system tray and is not mentioned in the list
05:59.39paranoidabhivalorie, sry I don't have any network management widget. Can you please tell one.
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06:00.53valorielooking at my choices, sec
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06:01.53valoriemy best choice is Networks - status and control
06:02.21valoriethere is another call monitor, which I've tried, but it's a bit messy in the tray for my taste
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06:03.36valorieparanoidabhi: ^^^
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06:09.19MayzieIs there any way to use KMail, et al, without having to install akonadi?
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06:52.49hamdjanhi, how do i unlock a login screen from cli? I use kde (kf5) and sddm
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06:58.23hamdjani think this does it loginctl unlock-session
07:00.18skreechwhat's the problem?
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07:03.14hamdjanneeded a remote picture of my desktop to see if gparted finished :L)
07:05.55skreechCouldn't you just query Gparted?
07:06.04skreechor check the results of the work?
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07:15.17skreechthough that's an interesting question.
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07:24.19MayzieHow do I disable Dolphin's single-click open?
07:25.43ZrenMayzie, it's in system mouse settings
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07:25.57MayzieOh.
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07:27.19MayzieZren: Thanks.
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07:28.43MayzieOh, that makes everything double click :-/
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08:12.04barlasOooh! New kdevelop site is shiny!
08:12.30skreech:-)
08:12.36skreechMayzie: What were you expecting?
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08:14.19Mayzieskreech: Well, I just wanted Dolphin to be double-click. But everything else (system settings, Open File dialog, etc), to remain single-click :-/
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08:29.37FLHerneWouldn't that be weird and inconsistent?
08:30.06FLHerneI mean, an Open File dialog and a Dolphin view are pretty much the same thing
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09:12.52MayzieFLHerne: I guess you could think that, but I quite like single-click, except when I'm trying to select a file in Dolphin, which causes it to open it.
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09:15.33FLHerneMayzie: You can ctrl-click on folders to select them
09:15.38FLHerne(and files)
09:16.32MayzieFLHerne: Oh cool, thanks :-)
09:16.41FLHerneShift-click seems to work too, but I'm not sure why
09:17.07MayzieThis is my first time using KDE after being a long time GNOME user.
09:18.39FLHerneWelcome back!
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09:29.01Mayzie"back"? lol
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09:33.36FLHerneOh, not sure how I misread that :P
09:33.43FLHerneWelcome! , then
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10:45.22MayzieHow can I make it so when I press Meta + Up, and Meta + Down, it'll Maximise and Normalise the focused window?
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11:04.56FLHerneMayzie: In systemsettings, go to Shortcuts -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts, select 'KWin', search for 'Maximise'
11:06.25MayzieFLHerne: There is not "KWin" under "KDE component:"?
11:06.54MayzieAlso, I can't seem to control my brightness either :-/
11:07.29MayzieFLHerne: Oh there it is, it's under System Settings. Sorry.
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11:09.21FLHerneOoh, that's a bit of a weird bug
11:10.29FLHerneThe 'KWin' section merges into 'System Settings Module' on all but the first opening of SystemSettings...?
11:10.50MayzieFLHerne: Sorry?
11:10.57FLHernePlaying with it here
11:11.20FLHerneThe first time I open systemsettings, I get a separate 'KWin' shortcuts section
11:11.43MayzieOdd.
11:11.51FLHerneAll subsequent times, I get the same as you, with Maximise Window under the 'System Setting Module' section
11:12.12FLHerneTried logging out->in on another vtty, and it repeats
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11:13.19FLHerneScreen brightness shortcuts are under 'KDE Daemon' here, they're set to the brightness keys
11:13.53MayzieYeah, it attempts to change the brightness, I can see the slider going down and up, but it's not actually changing the brightness.
11:15.10FLHerneHm, something's borked
11:15.23FLHerneI don't know why that could happen
11:15.56FLHerneOh, for your kwin shortcuts, maybe you should look at the tiling script? https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling
11:16.29MayzieThanks :-)
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15:31.25csanyipalHi,
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15:33.13csanyipalStill have problem with Xterm here on KDE Plasma-5 environment. ~/.Xrsources, ~/.Xdefaults does not has effect when starting Xterm. Please, where can I set Xterm permanently in such a configuration file on KDE??
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16:18.07untorehwhen I click network in dolphin nothing happens, what deps am I missing? I just did apt install dolphin on ubu 16.04
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16:24.23BluesKajuntoreh, dolphin and dependencies should have been installed by default if you're running kubuntu
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16:24.50rindolfparanoidabhi: hi, sup?
16:25.06BluesKajhe left, my typing is too slow :-)
16:25.14paranoidabhirindolf,
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16:25.37BluesKajhi rindolf
16:25.46rindolfBluesKaj: sup?
16:25.53rindolfparanoidabhi: sup?
16:29.23BluesKajnot much rindolf, just testing some vpn servers connections to freenode servers , seems certain US freenode servers won't connect to euro vpn servers like Helsinki piavpn fails with asimov.freenode (texas)
16:30.27rindolfBluesKaj: ah.
16:30.39rindolfBluesKaj: I can connect to asimov fine from Israel.
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16:31.46BluesKajyes, and i can connect to asimov thru the israel piavpn server:-)
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16:35.17rindolfBluesKaj: ah. :-)
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16:36.03NanoSectorhey, following this article: http://vizzzion.org/blog/2016/08/multisceen-in-plasma-improved-tools-and-debugging/ , is there anything I can do to help debug multi-screen issues? I'm using this setup: http://i.imgur.com/Y35giTb.png and Arch Linux
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16:49.14paranoidabhirindolf, stuck at one problem with kde! :p
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16:49.47rindolfparanoidabhi: which one?
16:49.52paranoidabhiI have lost the the option of adding network manager in system-tray. This maybe caused uninstalling and reinstalling of network-manager
16:49.54paranoidabhiany ideas?
16:50.10NanoSectorinstall plasma-nm
16:50.28NanoSectorit got uninstalled when you uninstalled networkmanager (it depends on networkmanager)
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17:03.34paranoidabhiNanoSector, thanks!!!
17:03.48paranoidabhirindolf, no problem. solved it. :)
17:04.09rindolfparanoidabhi: nice, how?
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17:04.39paranoidabhirindolf, following what NanoSector said.
17:05.04rindolfparanoidabhi: nice.
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17:05.15rindolfNanoSector: thanks for your help.
17:05.23NanoSectorheh no problem
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20:06.44yukenAny ideas on how to fix this?
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20:21.23shakaryuken: what are your video driver and compositor settings?
20:22.39yukenshakar, default in Ubuntu 16.04.1 (nouveau, I believe) - not sure of my compositor.
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20:36.42algo-seekerhi there!. I want contribute to KDE and I am beginner with basic experience in C++ and good experience in C. Please help me where and what to start with?
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20:54.01yukenSo, there are two problems: artifacting, and text becoming what is essentially gibberish in the KDE Konsole.
20:54.05yukenAny ideas on what I should do?
20:56.24shakaryuken: check your compositor settings
20:56.34yukenshakar: where would I check them?
20:57.09shakaryuken: if you have krunner, open it and start typing compositor. it's in system settings, under display
20:58.47yukenThanks, shakar
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21:03.09loahow i can control color of my kde panel?
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21:04.11loai have such nvidia errors in my kernel log http://pastebin.com/hJ19YJqR is this known? Can i fix this somehow?
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21:12.24user-zdoes kde offer a multi-line panel?
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21:16.02valorieuser-z: you can just stack panels I believe
21:16.15valoriethey are just widgets that have widgets in them
21:18.33user-zvalorie: thanks.
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21:23.29shakarloa: panel color is decided by plasma theme / "workspace" theme
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21:28.33loashadeslayer, i just want match panel color to my wallpaper =/
21:37.43loaopengl 3.0 render is experimental?
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