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| 00:04.24 | samson | Jucato: What was the last word you got? |
| 00:04.53 | Jucato | "the chosen a" |
| 00:05.06 | samson | By Mimeapps.list I mean the file in ~/.local/share/applications. I also tried system settings approach |
| 00:05.22 | samson | "the chosen application. Any ideas?" |
| 00:05.53 | samson | I tried xdg-mime, too |
| 00:06.07 | samson | All three ways work for other file types, but not for .html files |
| 00:06.43 | Jucato | hm ... no other ideas sorry |
| 00:08.03 | samson | k, thx anyway |
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| 05:44.53 | CRCinAU | ok - so I use kwrite to edit some perl stuff, and when I open a file from a fish:// share, I used to hit save and the file would be uploaded to the remote site when I hit save. |
| 05:45.09 | CRCinAU | now that doesn't seem to happen - it just asks me if I want to upload the file after I exit kwrite |
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| 05:45.23 | CRCinAU | is there an option thing I can tweak somewhere to restore this? |
| 05:45.50 | CRCinAU | Using: kwrite-16.04.3-1.fc24.x86_64 |
| 05:46.22 | CRCinAU | and dolphin-16.04.3-1.fc24.x86_64 |
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| 06:04.10 | foudubassan | Hi, kmail gives me a "kmail could not create collection templates resourceid" error. How do I handle this? |
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| 06:38.03 | thiago | CRCinAU: how did you start that kwrite? |
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| 07:51.54 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 08:31.24 | prillian5 | how do I got the menu on both screen (laptop and external tft)? |
| 08:33.37 | prillian5 | is there a way to tell kde where to open windows at the screen... maybe lower center, instead upper left? |
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| 08:41.44 | leszek | prillian5: yeah kwin has placement settings. By default it uses one "intelligent" algorythm to place as much windows on screen not overlapping each other as possible |
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| 09:21.40 | rethus | isn't there a rdp viewer in KDE by default? |
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| 09:24.30 | rethus | I remember some time ago it was krdc, whats now the application for rdp by default? |
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| 09:45.03 | leszek | rethus: I think krdc is still around |
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| 10:02.11 | bernhard | where do I find more information about *.protocol files? |
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| 10:12.47 | bernhard | I only found: https://api.kde.org/frameworks/kio/html/classKProtocolInfo.html but there seems to be more elements than listed on this page |
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| 10:14.07 | bernhard | I want a simple (helper) protocol which launches a application add passes the url *without* the protocol to the application. |
| 10:14.27 | bernhard | *and |
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| 10:34.27 | azrdev | hi! since recently, my archlinux started to suspend when closing the laptop lid, even though powerdevil is configured to only lock the screen in that event. seems like it is not correctly inhibiting systemd, because disabling suspend-on-lid-close in /etc/systemd/logind.conf fixes this |
| 10:34.49 | azrdev | powerdevil is listed in `systemd-inhibit --list`, though |
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| 11:05.32 | draq | How can I use the Icon Task manager in KDE 5.5.5? |
| 11:05.56 | draq | And on a similar note, is there any Linux distribution which doesn't destroy your KDE configuration on upgrade? |
| 11:06.57 | draq | I don't really see why it would be such a problem to read an existing configuration and do a migration. |
| 11:07.35 | draq | I like KDE, but lack of stability would be an argument to run something like xmonad or something like that, because at least that's stable and programmable. |
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| 11:11.05 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
| 11:14.21 | draq | I fixed it myself. |
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| 11:19.09 | draq | Why isn't $DESKTOP_SESSION set? |
| 11:24.05 | draq | Never mind... |
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| 12:13.58 | draq | Closing konsole takes 3 seconds in KDE5.5.5. |
| 12:14.20 | draq | Switching tabs in e.g. Chrome is instant, however. |
| 12:14.39 | draq | So, what can be done about that? |
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| 12:14.59 | draq | E.g. disabling all graphical effects or something like that? |
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| 12:27.58 | draq | Or is there any way to make KDE not run sluggish without a hardware upgrade? |
| 12:28.15 | draq | I am also not sure why rendering a couple of windows would require better hardware. |
| 12:29.00 | rdieter_work | draq: you're making some possibly-incorrect assumptions there |
| 12:29.28 | draq | rdieter_work: I understand what you mean; there are more features now, etc. |
| 12:29.38 | rdieter_work | primarily that your perceived sluggish is due to rendering |
| 12:29.55 | draq | rdieter_work: if I was designing KDE, I would measure how long the effects take and automatically disable them. |
| 12:30.03 | draq | With proper messages to the user. |
| 12:30.07 | rdieter_work | (but even if it was, that *is* completely due to video hardware/driver performance) |
| 12:30.22 | draq | rdieter_work: I am using the radeon driver now. |
| 12:30.32 | rdieter_work | then talk to them |
| 12:30.37 | draq | rdieter_work: and previously fglrx which didn't have this issues. |
| 12:30.40 | rdieter_work | if you think video performance is bad |
| 12:30.58 | draq | rdieter_work: I'd prefer it to just do less work in KDE. |
| 12:31.08 | rdieter_work | fine, disable effects |
| 12:31.16 | draq | rdieter_work: i.e., less effects, but I don't know which knobs have the most impact. |
| 12:31.22 | rdieter_work | (but I doubt that will help ultimately) |
| 12:31.51 | draq | rdieter_work: for example hovering over "Configuration" in Konsole also takes more than a second. |
| 12:31.55 | rdieter_work | plasma expects working and peformant opengl support |
| 12:33.35 | rdieter_work | draq: is it still slow if you disable compositing/desktop effects completely? |
| 12:34.00 | rdieter_work | may show that your driver is slow at 2d acceleration too |
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| 12:35.04 | draq | rdieter_work: how do I know that the compositor is off? |
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| 12:35.22 | draq | rdieter_work: I disabled the "start compositor" option. |
| 12:35.33 | draq | rdieter_work: but that doesn't say that it actually has a direct effect. |
| 12:35.39 | draq | Which is a usability issue. |
| 12:36.17 | draq | It seems to have had an effect. |
| 12:36.34 | rdieter_work | systemsettings5 , search for compositing |
| 12:37.03 | draq | rdieter_work: yes, I already did that. |
| 12:37.22 | draq | rdieter_work: opening "quick launch" via Alt-F2 is also super slow. |
| 12:37.27 | rdieter_work | ok, that rules out your complaints that desktop effects are to blame |
| 12:37.50 | rdieter_work | (ironically, disabling compositing sometimes makes performance slower) |
| 12:38.05 | rdieter_work | again, depending on your video driver |
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| 12:39.28 | rdieter_work | I suspect there may be multiple things going wrong on your system |
| 12:39.43 | draq | rdieter_work: apparently, I cannot ask the people in #radeon. |
| 12:39.52 | draq | rdieter_work: perhaps it requires registration. |
| 12:40.15 | rdieter_work | we're not even sure it *is* driver related honestly, it's just speculation at this point |
| 12:40.17 | draq | rdieter_work: it is "running" Ubuntu, so yes, I know. |
| 12:40.43 | rdieter_work | I'd suggest reaching out to your distro support first |
| 12:40.57 | draq | rdieter_work: those people know next to nothing. |
| 12:41.12 | rdieter_work | use a different distro then? |
| 12:41.25 | draq | rdieter_work: if you point them at bugs which have been ACKed >60 times, they claim there is no problem with upgrading Ubuntu. |
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| 12:41.32 | rdieter_work | find one that you feel can support your needs better perhaps |
| 12:41.41 | draq | rdieter_work: that's rather impractical right now. |
| 12:41.49 | draq | rdieter_work: but I already switched for my other machines. |
| 12:42.48 | draq | rdieter_work: is there any distro where I can expect my KDE4 menu icon tasks configuration to be migrated to KDE5 automatically? |
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| 12:43.13 | rdieter_work | no idea, it's been ages since I've used kde4 |
| 12:43.21 | rdieter_work | I doubt it though |
| 12:43.27 | draq | What's the point of providing a desktop experience if it breaks on upgrade? |
| 12:43.47 | draq | If I was in a corporate room and people discussed "Linux on the desktop", I would just have to say this and it would be Windows. |
| 12:43.54 | rdieter_work | there's generally too many differences between kde4's plasma and plasma5, that configuration migration is impractical |
| 12:43.55 | draq | were* |
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| 12:44.30 | rdieter_work | (individual applications are another story, though, they should at least make an effort to migrate) |
| 12:44.48 | draq | Doesn't plasmashell count as an application? |
| 12:45.16 | rdieter_work | technically yes, but I tried to explain already why that's an exception |
| 12:45.24 | draq | rdieter_work: yes, sorry. |
| 12:46.58 | rdieter_work | besides, at this point, imho, kde4 (the desktop) is *so* old that putting any effort into migrating settings would not be worth it |
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| 12:47.52 | draq | rdieter_work: yes, but the same argument will apply to KDE5->6. |
| 12:48.00 | draq | rdieter_work: I also don't care about KDE4 anymore. |
| 12:48.18 | rdieter_work | draq: if you don't care, why'd you mention it? |
| 12:48.49 | rdieter_work | (curiosity?) |
| 12:49.04 | draq | rdieter_work: well, I would care if such a magical tool would exist, but I almost recreated my setup again. |
| 12:49.52 | draq | rdieter_work: what's the name of the binary to run quick launch? |
| 12:50.02 | draq | rdieter_work: sometimes it is fast, sometimes it is slow. |
| 12:50.10 | rdieter_work | krunner |
| 12:50.40 | rdieter_work | and you can just call it krunner (instead of quick launch) |
| 12:51.27 | draq | Running it in rapid succession is fast due to caching. |
| 12:51.37 | draq | So, probably this would be related to disk performance, then. |
| 12:51.48 | draq | I could clear all caches to be sure. |
| 12:51.49 | rdieter_work | krunner should stay running all the time |
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| 12:52.50 | rdieter_work | you could try disabling some of it's plugins you don't need or use, perhaps that may help some |
| 12:53.05 | draq | When I strace krunner it does read a billion files. |
| 12:53.06 | rdieter_work | click the icon on the left when it displays |
| 12:53.08 | draq | Translations, etc. |
| 12:53.22 | draq | Accessing files is a slow operation on a HDD (not SSD). |
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| 12:53.58 | rdieter_work | that should generally only be done once, like I said, krunner should only run once (at login) |
| 12:54.42 | rdieter_work | it stays running in the background even when not displayed via ALT-F2 |
| 12:55.03 | draq | rdieter_work: getting rid of the plugins seems to have helped. |
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| 12:56.09 | draq | One final problem, which is that when I run konsole via krunner it does something different then when I run konsole --hold via krunner. |
| 12:56.10 | rdieter_work | could be interesting to re-enable them one at time, if you can identify problematic ones (and potentially file bugs) |
| 12:56.38 | draq | rdieter_work: does KDE have any spyware in it, btw? |
| 12:56.59 | draq | rdieter_work: i.e. that it measures data and sends it to some central server? |
| 12:56.59 | rdieter_work | draq: that's an odd question to ask, of course not |
| 12:57.31 | draq | rdieter_work: well, Windows 10 does, Ubuntu has some, so it wouldn't be that odd in this crazy world. |
| 12:57.38 | rdieter_work | well, maybe not so odd, but be rest assured, the kde project takes it's users privacy seriously |
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| 13:00.33 | draq | rdieter_work: it seems performance is now back to usable levels. Thanks a lot. The konsole issue is probably something which I can debug via some shell redirections. |
| 13:00.54 | draq | Hmm, Alt-Tab is still sluggish. |
| 13:03.39 | draq | Keyboard input in konsole in vim also lags. |
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| 13:24.38 | Zren_ | use big icons for alt-tab |
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| 13:24.47 | Zren_ | or anything withouth the thumbnails |
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| 13:43.56 | draq | How do I get rid of baloo? I disabled it, but some *extractor* process is still running? |
| 13:44.08 | draq | I also believe this to be the main cause of the sluggishness in hindsight. |
| 13:44.28 | draq | I can kill the process, but then it might come back. |
| 13:44.54 | draq | In the normal settings I already told it to not run, so why it continues to run and is not killed, I have no idea. |
| 13:46.15 | rdieter_work | draq: it shouldn't come back... if you disabled it. though, you can only disable file indexing, email indexing (if using kmail/akonadi) is not-optional |
| 13:49.49 | draq | file indexing for normal desktop devices is probably just a mistake. If you have a specialized setup (mirrored disks) and you run the indexing on *one* of the devices, then it would always be a useful feature. |
| 13:49.58 | draq | Or if you run it at night. |
| 13:50.53 | draq | Or even better: just have a NAS on which the work is done. |
| 13:52.16 | draq | Or a bunch of SSDs probably would also work, but for certain system parameters, it's just a useless feature (which is why everyone wants to disable it). |
| 13:52.31 | draq | E.g. so much that people write blogs about it: http://www.freehackers.org/thomas/2014/05/03/fix-baloo-on-kde-using-the-same-trick-as-onced-used-with-nepomuk/ |
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| 14:37.49 | R13ose | How can I speedup kde and get rid of packages I don't need? |
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| 14:38.10 | yossarianuk | hey - does anyone know if this is a dead project now ? http://www.shashlik.io/ |
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| 14:43.48 | R13ose | yossarianuk: on github, these projects haven't been updated since much earlier in the year |
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| 14:58.48 | yossarianuk | R13ose: cheers |
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| 18:18.01 | salamanderrake | can't sign into gmail with kmail |
| 18:19.12 | salamanderrake | thunderbird has Authentication method as OAuth2 but kmail does not have that option. |
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| 18:23.30 | rattking | salamanderrake: you have to go to the google accounts set 'Allow less secure apps' to on |
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| 18:32.09 | Papierkorb | Hi. In Dolphin (KF5), is it be possible to add an entry to the context menu on files inside a WebDAV share, or even a specific WebDAV share? |
| 18:32.36 | Sho_ | yes |
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| 18:35.27 | Papierkorb | Sho_: could you link me some docs on how to do this? |
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| 19:03.40 | jonniewisconsin | im having a problem with my sound notifications, after switching display using a keyboard shortcut the sound events come out of my laptop speakers instead of my hdmi output, like my music does |
| 19:03.44 | jonniewisconsin | how can i fix this |
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| 19:13.43 | namenick0 | Hi, I'm trying to forward the whole KDE Plasma Shell using SSH. Single applications (even the more complex ones) work great, but I can't seem to figure out the main process KDE uses. Tried startx, startkde, plasmashell and many other commands, but most of them seem to ignore $DISPLAY and always start on the local computer. Any ideas are greatly appreciated! |
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| 20:20.44 | yvear | anyone know if there is progress on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1505014 ? |
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| 21:08.56 | Clifspeare | Is there a scheduled release data for KDE applications 16.08? |
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| 21:10.55 | genstorm | yes |
| 21:11.02 | baraba | https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/16.08_Release_Schedule |
| 21:11.09 | Clifspeare | baraba: thx |
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