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| 00:05.28 | clarjon1 | Hey guys |
| 00:05.38 | clarjon1 | how do i manipulate widgets on the desktop again? |
| 00:05.52 | clarjon1 | used to be a menu that would pop out the side on hoverover, but i think it's some key-click combo now? |
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| 00:12.38 | Zren | clarjon1, click and hold |
| 00:12.51 | Zren | or alt+rightclick+drag |
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| 00:13.33 | clarjon1 | ah long click, thanks! |
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| 06:56.43 | oneforall2 | any idea how I can speed up kwrite or kate both are so slow loading a javascript |
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| 07:06.11 | oneforall2 | size 111KiB |
| 07:11.57 | TomTom | how to format/prettyprint JSON in kate? highlighting works (i am in JSON "mode") |
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| 07:36.39 | martin__ | oneforall2: you can try to disable dynamic word wrap in the editor component / appearance, also make sure that under "Editing->Spellcheck->Automatic spell checking enabled" is set to false |
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| 07:38.04 | martin__ | you could also check if there is some syntax parser enabled in the plugins (especially if the file is one of those minified JS files, this can be quite slow) |
| 07:39.40 | martin__ | TomTom: select all text that you fant to prettyprint, then go to "Tools->Clean indentation" |
| 07:40.26 | martin__ | however, it's not really perfect, unfortunately |
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| 07:41.46 | martin__ | a workaround I sometime use is select all text, cut and paste it - this will clean up the indentation if you've set "Editor Component->Editing->Indentation->Adjust indentation of code pasted from the clipboard" |
| 07:42.16 | TomTom | martin__: in kate 15.12.3 i dont have "tools". maybe its because of my german translation. i have only "extras -> clean indentation" or "extras -> indentation" both are not working |
| 07:43.47 | martin__ | It's probably "Extras -> Clean indenation", but yeah, that only fixes "Tabs vs. whitespace" inconsistencies. Try cut and paste with the setting in the Kate preferences |
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| 07:54.24 | TomTom | martin__: now it does "something" but no JSON pretty printing... ok there is room for improvement :) |
| 07:54.50 | TomTom | martin__: speaking of the paste from clipboard with "indent when pasting"-setting |
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| 08:07.46 | martin__ | it's probably related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339676 and seems to be a regression to earlier versions |
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| 08:15.41 | TomTom | sounds plausible. thanks |
| 08:20.42 | oneforall2 | yeah those are off |
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| 08:22.36 | oneforall2 | maybe the auto word complewtion |
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| 08:57.51 | martin__ | oneforall2: also bracket and syntax highlighting can slow kate down on minified JS files |
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| 09:16.40 | ago | Hello all, I made a new installation of kde and apps like kmail shows very bad. I know I'm missing a package but I don't remember which..any hints? http://i.imgur.com/jQZas5d.png |
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| 09:27.52 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 10:37.14 | ago | Hello all, I made a new installation of kde and apps like kmail shows very bad(not oxygen-style). I know I'm missing a package but I don't remember which..any hints? http://i.imgur.com/jQZas5d.png |
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| 10:45.42 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 10:46.37 | leszek | ago: kde-style-oxygen missing maybe ? |
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| 10:54.12 | ago | leszek: it is installed, but I see always the same style. Do I need to configure anything? |
| 10:54.43 | leszek | take a look in systemsettings if application style is set to oxygen |
| 10:54.50 | leszek | or whatever you want |
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| 10:57.42 | ago | leszek: yes it is already oxygen, but after installing the package, I don't see anything different as it was before. And the style is still not oxygen. |
| 10:58.18 | leszek | ago: did you tried other styles ? What plasma version ? What kontact version ? |
| 10:58.46 | ago | leszek: I see oxygen for kde5 apps, and not for kde4 apps...that's it. |
| 10:58.57 | ago | I have plasma 5.5.5 |
| 10:59.04 | leszek | that might be the issue then |
| 10:59.15 | leszek | so you need to install somehow the style for kde4libs aswell |
| 10:59.30 | leszek | not sure how it is packaged on your distro |
| 11:01.00 | ago | leszek: I guess it shoould be liboxygenstyle which installs /usr/lib64/liboxygenstyle.so.4.14.20 |
| 11:01.09 | ago | but it does not work. |
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| 11:03.30 | leszek | ago: usually the systemsettings should setup the kdeglobals file for both plasma 5 and kde sc 4 apps. Though you might want to try setting up the correct oxygen style in qtconfig-qt4 |
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| 11:34.20 | scootergrisen | If i install lokalize on GNOME i don't seem to get a program menu item so i have to start lokalize from a terminal. Do anyone know if this have been fixed in later versions? i use Lokalize Version 1.5. But how do i know what the latest version is? |
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| 12:14.37 | ago | leszek: qtconfig does not have an oxygen theme to select.... |
| 12:14.55 | leszek | ago: so it isn't installed for kde4libs then |
| 12:19.33 | ago | leszek: but liboxygenstyle is only for kde4ù |
| 12:20.04 | leszek | then it isn't installed correctly. It needs to appear in qtconfig-qt4 aswell |
| 12:21.26 | leszek | ago: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/ should have a styles directory linked to /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles |
| 12:21.31 | leszek | at least it is here on debian |
| 12:21.46 | leszek | and that styles directory should contain a oxygen.so file |
| 12:27.33 | ago | leszek: thanks, I found the problem. I missed kstyles package |
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| 12:38.44 | makinen | anyone using tiling script with plasma 5? |
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| 12:58.56 | bittin | KDE talk at OpenSUSE Conf now :) |
| 12:59.01 | bittin | https://events.opensuse.org/ |
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| 15:25.34 | rattking | Hi all what would be the correct way to backup kontact data such as notes, journal, and the todo list? I would like to try and start using these but I want to be sure the data will be safe and remain available |
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| 16:24.01 | MrSassyPants | in systemsettings/shortcuts/global shortcuts, I have no component kwin, hence I am unable to set / change shortcuts |
| 16:24.56 | MrSassyPants | kwin 5.5.5, ubuntu 16.04 |
| 16:25.02 | MrSassyPants | *kubuntu |
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| 16:50.28 | constans | hello |
| 16:50.58 | constans | how to deal with this sort of font notation? --> (\0\0\0@\0\0\0\x12\0N\0o\0t\0o\0 \0M\0o\0n\0o@&\0\0\0\0\0\0\xff\xff\xff\xff\x2\x1\0\x32\x10) |
| 16:51.25 | constans | I need to change it frankly I dunno what the fuck thiss means --> (\0\0\0@\0\0\0\x12\0N\0o\0t\0o\0 \0M\0o\0n\0o@&\0\0\0\0\0\0\xff\xff\xff\xff\x2\x1\0\x32\x10) |
| 16:51.37 | constans | it's in qterminal.ini |
| 16:51.50 | constans | was the developer high on something? |
| 16:53.55 | constans | how to convert a font into this format? |
| 16:56.23 | Zren | \0 every other character means it's a utf16 string converted to ascii |
| 17:03.00 | constans | how to convert back to human readable? |
| 17:03.21 | Zren | replace all "\0" with "" |
| 17:03.23 | Zren | (@\x12Noto Mono@&\xff\xff\xff\xff\x2\x1\x32\x10) |
| 17:03.58 | Zren | The leftovers are probably giberish qt uses to serialize the QString |
| 17:04.17 | Zren | \xff = ascii 256 |
| 17:04.19 | constans | mm.. crazy. I will try my font |
| 17:04.25 | constans | Zren: thanks |
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| 17:04.57 | Zren | Basically, take the origional, and put \0 between your font name |
| 17:05.39 | Zren | Eg: "N\0o\0t\0o\0 \0M\0o\0n\0o" => "N\0o\0t\0o\0 \0S\0a\0n\0s" |
| 17:05.43 | constans | even after space? |
| 17:05.49 | Zren | Yes |
| 17:05.54 | constans | ok |
| 17:06.04 | Zren | "\0o\0 \0M\0o" <= see there |
| 17:06.15 | Zren | "Noto Mono" has a space |
| 17:07.19 | Zren | just hopes this is a null terminated string and the length of the string isn't hidden in that giberish. |
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| 17:13.21 | constans | Zren: I don't know where you got the "Noto Mono", on qterminal and xterm. |
| 17:13.49 | constans | this is crazy, on my terminals I am unable to see the full words :/ |
| 17:13.54 | constans | and they are out of order |
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| 17:14.11 | Zren | Yeah, change it back lol |
| 17:14.26 | Zren | then use the gui to change it |
| 17:15.11 | constans | what I've pasted here straight out of the terminal is different from what I see on the terminal. |
| 17:15.20 | constans | I swear I'm not on drugs |
| 17:15.46 | Zren | What file is this value from? |
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| 17:17.30 | constans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.49 | constans | wait |
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| 17:19.21 | constans | why would the developer use such format to be used in the configuration file? makes no sense |
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| 17:30.07 | constans | alright here is the good paste --> font=@Variant(\0\0\0@\0\0\0\x12\0M\0o\0n\0o\0s\0p\0\x61\0\x63\0\x65@(\0\0\0\0\0\0\xff\xff\xff\xff\x2\x1\0\x32\x10) |
| 17:30.51 | constans | but the words only go up to Monosp but it's "Monospace", corfirmed in preferences |
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| 17:36.14 | constans | some words are missing in the names. This one is Source Code Pro --> 0S\0o\0u\0r\0\x63\0\x65\0 \0\x43\0o\0\x64\0\x65\0 \0P\0r\0o |
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| 17:37.23 | constans | Would it work just using words and do make your construction? |
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| 17:38.48 | Zren | I'd recommend using the gui to generate the values you want, and using them. |
| 17:39.21 | constans | notoriously, C and A change to numbers |
| 17:39.46 | constans | Zren: the problem is that the GUI doesn't have the font I want. |
| 17:40.07 | Zren | is it not a monospace font? |
| 17:40.14 | Zren | because that's a baaaad idea. |
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| 17:40.46 | constans | nope, it's with ligatures |
| 17:41.54 | ccolorado | Hey I have aproblem with my touchpad settings. Everytime I boot I have to manually set the tapping on System Settings > Input Devices > Touchpad. Any way to make this settings permanent ? |
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| 17:45.43 | constans | wtf!! it overwrote my modification :? |
| 17:45.45 | constans | :/ |
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| 17:46.17 | constans | I am tired of stuff not working the way I need it!! |
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| 17:53.10 | ccolorado | constans: Getting tired is usually one step to fix stuff. |
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| 19:15.26 | MrSassyPants | Samba sharing doesn't seem to work, otoh network displays samba shares on my IP but I cannot alter their sharedness |
| 19:15.38 | MrSassyPants | it is as if the kde samba functions don't do anything |
| 19:15.51 | MrSassyPants | and are silently discarded or some such |
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| 20:23.59 | constans | hello |
| 20:24.07 | constans | anybody using konsole? |
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| 20:25.21 | constans | I want ommit some functionality and make it stand alone. |
| 20:25.44 | constans | I need to learn what each dependencies do. |
| 20:26.05 | genstorm | constans: what do you mean by standalone |
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| 20:29.42 | constans | removing the following --> https://bpaste.net/show/2f71f145df0a |
| 20:29.57 | constans | but first find out what it does and whether I really do need it or not |
| 20:30.07 | genstorm | constans: that would essentially mean a rewrite |
| 20:30.57 | constans | ouch! |
| 20:31.35 | genstorm | well what do you expect, konsole is an application based on kde frameworks |
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| 20:34.20 | constans | mm.. then I guess a shorter path could be to remove the only mono limitation and add line heigh option in qterminal |
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| 20:36.34 | constans | this is insane |
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| 20:55.20 | FLHerne | constans: What's insane? That's just how software works |
| 20:55.43 | FLHerne | constans: You probably could eliminate the kdelibs4support dependency |
| 20:56.20 | rdieter | it may be reasonable to consider it insane to try to make konsole functional without frameworks |
| 20:56.35 | FLHerne | That's just stuff to make porting from KDE4 libs simpler, should be possible to replace it with standard KF5 interfaces |
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| 20:58.32 | FLHerne | constans: Konsole doesn't really 'depend' on frameworks, it's just made of frameworks |
| 20:59.05 | FLHerne | You could remove ktextwidgets and kcompletion dependencies by removing all the text input boxes in the config |
| 20:59.57 | FLHerne | You could remove the kparts dependency by eliminating Konsolepart, but that would break everything that embeds konsolepart (Dolphin, Kate, ...) |
| 21:00.18 | FLHerne | You could remove kio, but then it couldn't open files in the KDE-standard way |
| 21:00.32 | FLHerne | And so on |
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| 21:09.19 | constans | FLHerne: thanks!! that gives a head start. |
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| 21:15.49 | FLHerne | constans: Um |
| 21:16.19 | FLHerne | I was making examples of why removing such dependencies would be illogical, not examples of things you should remove :P |
| 21:17.32 | FLHerne | constans: As I said before, kdelibs4support is the only dep that's "surplus" and could be sensibly removed without breaking functionality |
| 21:18.18 | FLHerne | KF5 libs are pretty tiny, you almost always need several to build a useful application |
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| 23:43.23 | MrSassyPants | Question: is there some way to get apple style combined launcher symbols and window referrers? |
| 23:43.41 | MrSassyPants | like so I don't accidentally launch a second window |
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