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00:00.06bjonnhbut it works using zathura-poppler
00:00.12bjonnhand zathura-mupdf
00:00.20bjonnhhowever pdfinfo fails with some errors
00:00.28bjonnhso yeah it smells like poppler
00:00.47bjonnhbut the way zathura uses it is different than evince, okular and pdfinfo…
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02:11.22jsgrantIs there any reccomended QT/KDE-friendly QEMU frontend I should check out?
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03:35.18kadoshHi, I'm making a runner, but I work on vim I want to add KF5 to you complete me
03:35.36kadoshI could find how to add QT5 to the ycm_extra_config.py
03:35.52kadoshbut I haven't been able to do the same with KF5
03:36.08kadoshhas someone has worked with that?
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03:59.16saintdevanyone know of a fix for the issue with plasma5 forgetting your monitor layout 75% of the time?
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04:15.16TheRealJohnGalt2I downgraded to "stable" kde packages, and now about half of my qt applications have switched to a light color scheme instead of the karc scheme I had set prior. I can't seem to get those half to change back. Any ideas?
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04:22.16clarjon1TheRealJohnGalt2: "stable" in which distro
04:22.41TheRealJohnGalt2sorry, opensuse tumbleweed. So the latest stable for kde.
04:23.08TheRealJohnGalt2Also, I just fixed it :D. Apparently I had clicked an incorrect option in sddm.
04:23.30TheRealJohnGalt2"kde plasma workspace" uses a different color scheme for some qt windows, opposed to "plasma 5"
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05:48.25linuxuser_19how to install any KDE 5.x under Debian Testing?
05:50.33rindolflinuxuser_19: hi.
05:50.38rindolflinuxuser_19: can't you use a PPA?
05:52.44linuxuser_19I am new to debian... used ubuntu before.. is it possible to use ppas also under debian?
05:53.00rindolflinuxuser_19: there's a similar concept.
05:53.33linuxuser_19I wanted to try debian with kde5 (if possible at this time) because in kubuntu 16.04 KDE is horrible unstable
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05:59.35rindolflinuxuser_19: perhaps see https://wiki.debian.org/KDE
06:00.19sandman13linuxuser_19: It should be available in Testing
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06:43.24espereguhowto properly set up multiple video cards?
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07:42.31linuxuser_19how can I save a txt-file in KATE windows-conform? (in gedit for example I can choose between unix and windows text file)
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08:38.36hexnewbieWhere is KDEDIRS fully documented? In particular, "the root of the KDE installation tree" is confusing to me. And more in particular, on Debian, should it be "/usr/local:/usr" or "/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib"?
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08:41.43BaltecoTrolldudes, any help with ff/kde integration? can't find how can i make the firefox looking like other windows
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08:54.13hateballBaltecoTroll: well Firefox is GTK3 so
08:54.37BaltecoTrollhateball http://tic-tac.ru/screenshot.png - check red-marked area
08:56.04hateballBaltecoTroll: Yes?
08:56.34hateballBaltecoTroll: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oxygen-GTK3-Killing
08:59.38BaltecoTrollhateball i mean - almost all my apps use solid squared (not rounded) controls, even thunderbird (i hate oxygen and other modern stuff). but mozilla uses _what_?
09:00.21hateballits own gtk3 theme
09:01.03BaltecoTrollhateball http://tic-tac.ru/strace-ff.txt - strace output. 'grep gtk' shows murrine usage
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09:02.21BaltecoTrolldidin't dig into all these gtk/qt stuff frankly speaking :
09:03.15hexnewbieMaking GTK3+ look like KDE is difficult, if not impossible. There is/was an Oxygen theme for GTK+3, but I suspect it will break soon if not already broken. Also the Phase theme is not available for any GTK+ version.
09:05.39BaltecoTrollsighed
09:06.02BaltecoTrollanyway, thanks a lot, guys :)
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10:36.17beelzy1Does Kate support Typescript? Or is there some plugin or extension I can get that uses it?
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10:41.46FLHernebeelzy1: Someone seems to have written a highlighting file for it: https://github.com/PrettyFlower/KateTypeScriptSyntaxHighlighting
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10:47.56FLHerneFor KF5, put it in /usr/share/katepart5/syntax/ instead of the instructions there
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11:53.42BluesKajHiya folks
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12:42.35chinmoyhey all,how can i install kde frameworks using apt-get?
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12:52.24FLHernechinmoy: Which ones? With KF5, everything's much less monolithic
12:53.18chinmoyyes kf5
12:53.56rdieterchinmoy: there are > 60 separate frameworks, you want all of them?
12:54.04FLHernechinmoy: https://api.kde.org/frameworks/index.html
12:54.56FLHerneList of KF5 libs - you really _don't_ want "the KDE libs" like in KDE4, you can pick and choose what you need now
12:54.57rdieter(even then, may depend on which distro you're using)
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12:56.39FLHerneUbuntu naming seems to be 'libkf5<thing>'
12:57.04FLHerneSo KCompletion is libkf5completion (-dev)
12:58.16beelzy1Is the syntax highlighting folder for Kate the same in OSX?
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13:04.38FLHernebeelzy1: No idea
13:06.12FLHerneIf the directory exists, then probably
13:06.27FLHerneBut doesn't OSX usually do the 'Application Data' thing?
13:09.57beelzy1There is an Application Support folder, which gets used in Krita, but I don't know about Kate.
13:10.31beelzy1I didn't find any other syntax .xml files which I find worrying because I wonder if perhaps they were bundled and merged into a binary lib somewhere kind of like what happens with some of the files in Krita.
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14:42.57yuvalosHi guys. Is this the proper place to ask for help regarding an annoying issue with mouse wheel in KDE 4.18?
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14:48.26rdieteryuvalos: it's a good start, yes
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14:50.34yuvalosI have a crazy issue. I'm running CentOS 7.2 with KDE 4.14.8 installed. While scrolling with the mouse wheel in any app (Konsole, Chrome, etc) the mouse scroll causes apps to start switching from one to another like crazy
14:50.53yuvalosI'm running inside VirtualBox, and seen this: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13596
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14:51.20yuvalosBut there's no resolution and might not actually be the problem
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14:52.46yuvalosAnd there's this: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=126843 as well
14:54.15yuvalosAnd this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354482 seems to be related
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15:08.14ApukamIs it true that kde4 isn't supported anymore?
15:10.13elvisangelaccioApukam: only kdelibs the KDE4 applications are still supported
15:10.24elvisangelaccio*and the
15:13.54FLHerneApukam: 4.14.20 was released a few weeks ago, it's not dead quite yet
15:15.14ApukamSo I can still use it but for how long time?
15:19.11FLHerneApukam: Bugfix releases are pretty much over, but it won't stop existing
15:19.33FLHernePlasma 5 is definitely the future, though
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15:29.08ApukamThank you
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15:31.24Cymewalso waves the CentOS7 and KDE4 flag
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15:56.20ClifspeareCymew: may I ask what you personally like about KDE4 over 5?
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15:58.24infrared__Muon and plasma discover updater do not display change lists for any packages at all - muon occasionally decides to display a 404 html page (not parsed, just as text) instead. Is this a known issue? apt-get changelog <pkg> works fine, though with a lot of waiting first
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16:00.42infrared__I upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04 - could this be a leftover config issue?
16:00.47rdieterClifspeare: probably mostly a matter of that's all there's available on his platform (CentOs7)
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16:02.50Calinou"CentOS, the OS that is worth a cent"
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16:09.50Leoneofi want to add Firefox shortcut in Favorite for Application Launcher?
16:10.00saptechhello
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16:17.19chinmoydoes okular read epub files straight away or it requires other plugins to be installed
16:18.51teprrrLibepub (EPub backend for Okular >= 0.7/KDE >= 4.1)
16:18.53teprrrIn order to compile and use the EPub backend, you need the epub library.
16:19.00teprrror so it says in the download page of okular
16:19.32chinmoycan i use apt-get for Lifepub
16:20.04teprrrno idea
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16:20.16teprrryou tried to open those epub files with okular? doesn't it say anything?
16:20.38chinmoyyes it says "
16:20.45chinmoyplugin missing"
16:20.57TrelQuick question, what ever happened to the project for getting KDE apps on Windows?  The URL I know of (windows.kde.org) looks like it was last updated 3ish years ago)
16:21.23chinmoyteprrr: doesn't name the plugin though
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16:30.44chinmoyokular-extra-backends solved the problem
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16:33.44QuantosHey, does anyone know the name of the channel for KDE Connect?
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16:37.48FLHerneIf there is one, it doesn't seem to be on Freenode
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16:39.01QuantosDoes anyone know much about KDE Connect?
16:39.24QuantosI'm pretty sure it's something simple that I'm missing
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16:42.08rdieterQuantos: maybe, if you give details about what you're looking for
16:42.29QuantosOkay, I wanted to make sure it was okay before I posted
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16:43.33QuantosI have MTP issues, big surprise there eh?  I was able to open the phone to move files previously with KDE Connect.  I click on the icon in the notification area and select the folder and nothing happens now
16:44.01QuantosPhone is a Samsung Galaxy S5 Neo running Android 5.1.1
16:44.16QuantosLooking for my KDE Connect version num
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16:49.02QuantosKDE Connect version num is 0.9+git20160315-Oubuntu1
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17:26.53menaceHi, tellico (book/cd/stuff management programm) crashes on start in debian testing... when i started "kdbg /usr/bin/tellico" and tried to execute it, there was a error in a window which says: "warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted". What did i do wrong?
17:27.00menaceshould i not use kdbg?
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17:28.00FLHerneProbably easier to just use gdb
17:28.13menaceyeah, just did that...
17:28.31menacesigh.. "Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. \nqobject_cast<QWidget*> (o=0xec5e80) at ../../include/QtGui/../../src/gui/kernel/qwidget.h:925"
17:28.57menaceand a bunch of kio scheduler/slave messages
17:29.04FLHernePossibly Debian has ptrace blocked/restricted?
17:29.17FLHerneOh, that sounds !FUN! to debug
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17:34.25menacei suppose tellico calls qtgui wrong...
17:34.33menaceor other compiler or whatever...
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17:34.57menaceis there simple way to detect, why/if debian restricts ptrace?
17:35.21pierre^Why khelpcenter in plasma 5.6.4 is 5.6.3 in the tar.xz ?????
17:35.32genstormpierre^:  ignore it
17:36.58genstormthere is no khelpcenter-5.6.4, it is now part of kde applications >=16.04
17:37.46pierre^http://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.6.4/khelpcenter-5.6.4.tar.xz
17:37.49rdieterit was included in case anyone's automated/scripted releases needed it to exist without breaking
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17:38.08pierre^http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/16.04.1/src/khelpcenter-16.04.1.tar.xz
17:38.32rdieterpierre^: there you go, latest version is 16.04.1
17:39.03pierre^why tne plasma version is not removedd
17:39.30menacelol, the gdb refers to a file, which i have no debug infos about.. qwidget.cpp and i do not find the file in the entire debian testing repo?! :D this HAS to be my mistake in analyzing :D
17:39.59rdieterpierre^: see my previous comment for one reason why (automated releases)
17:40.35rdieterit certainly didn't *have* to be done that way, but I'm sure someone appreciates not breaking an expected workflow
17:40.56genstormthere might be a distro shipping 5.6 but not 16.04
17:42.18pierre^I have not seen in the changelog .. I'll have to change my glasses
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17:44.05pierre^in  fact the only port use khelpcenter as deps is kde5-l10n
17:44.37pierre^ok i modify my ports
17:44.50pierre^thank
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17:48.11TrelWhat ever happened to the project for getting KDE apps on Windows?  The URL I know of (windows.kde.org) looks like it was last updated 3ish years ago)
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17:55.51bittinHello any KDE user know if i can change the icons in the start meny to other programs?
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17:55.58bittinfor example change KMail to Spotify or so on?
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17:59.42danofsatxgreetings, folks. I'm attempting to switch from thuderbird to kmail, and I'm having some issues in working it into my workflow. For instance, it currently takes 3 extra clicks after I select an email to display the html version of the email. What am I missing?
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18:04.20CymewClifspeare: Major releases of KDE tend to be very distruptive, as the KDE team always try to push the envelope. So far v5 have been unstable and lacking when I've testinstalled it. It's also very ugly in it's default look, but that's just personal taste. Also, I think kde4 is perfect as a user and lack nothing, so why change? I totally understand why it needed a re-write though, from a developer's standpoint.
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18:11.55bittinits the favorites i wanna change
18:12.07CalinouKDE 4 is "Vive Jacques Chirac" in terms of default look
18:12.12CalinouKDE 5 is actual flat design, done rather well
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18:26.40brain0hello. I have a yakuake/konsolepart session
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18:27.36brain0I use yakuake a lot and use the splitting feature a lot
18:27.48brain0so I split a tab into two terminals horizontally, for example
18:27.52brain0anyway, there's a separator
18:27.58brain0on my other machine, it is actually visible
18:28.08brain0on this machine, it seems to be 1 pixel wide and I can barely see it
18:28.19brain0my qeustion is: where do I configure the width of the separator
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19:12.12FLHerneIs there any technical reason preventing a Breeze theme for Plasma 4?
19:12.23FLHerneWell, KDE4 Plasma, or whatever
19:12.40FLHerneThere already is one for Qt4 applications
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19:13.46rdieterFLHerne: no (though I'm not aware of any devs/community actively working on plasma4 themes anymore)
19:16.19FLHerneJust thinking about what Calinou/Cymew said earlier, really
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20:17.08rattkingHello, I was wondering if there are any plans for KDE Telepathy to support Hangouts? the protocol not just the xmpp parts of it
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21:09.28ShalokShalomhi there :)
21:09.34ShalokShalomhttp://funkyimg.com/i/2cxQm.png
21:09.36ShalokShalomnetwork name for a usb connected printer?
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21:38.41teprrrI think it's just "text" there. cups handles all the devices with such URIs
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21:57.42newbCan someone point me to the best location to get information such as "How can I edit the context menu on Plasma 5 desktop?"  I think it's the "Plasma 5" part that is causing the trouble.
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21:59.28rdieternewb: there is no easy way of editing that, short of patching code (as far as I know)
21:59.56newbrdieter: Thanks for the confirmation on that.
22:00.10newbCan I give you my problem, and see if you can help me with it?
22:00.29rdieterask away, if anyone knows how to help, they will
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22:02.07newbI use several mulit-monitor setups, and Plasma 5 is still improving on supporting them.  One problem I keep having is that my panel moves around.  No biggie, but sometimes it is missing when I am using a single monitor.  I have come up with some solutions, but none seem to work well.
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22:04.15newbIf I can edit the default panel info, that would work too.
22:06.24newbAny information or direction is welcome.  Thanks in advance.
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22:26.44ptero_do i understand it right, that kde doesn't create a binary file ~/.config/kdeinit4? i recently started to believe that my arch linux setup goit compromised, have reinstalled and am now checking the old one withz clamav, one of the matches is this file.
22:26.44ptero_the only results i found for this file on google are messages on a czech forum, by a guy who discovered this file in his crontab (which i didn't)
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22:27.55mayhewptero_: I run KDE on Arch and don't have a ~/.config/kdeinit4
22:30.58ptero_i need to say that i wasn't able to update my arch sometime in 2013 (after a long update pause) and have used it as is since, so it might have been be removed from recent kde versions
22:33.08mayhewptero_: yeah, it's probably an old file that KDE used to use
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22:39.06ptero_i was pretty unsettled when the name didn't generate any other search results, seems like i managed to catch the elusive linux malware... checked the file again with virustotal now:
22:39.06ptero_https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/53b69a67e403a908bc0a97fb9d3cb3fb2511256c5e004fe182fbeb56bb7c8890/analysis/1464976780/
22:40.16ptero_strange that it's discovered bopt
22:40.50ptero_both as windows and linux trojan by different antivirus programs though
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22:54.40FLHerneBinaries in .config would be rather odd, can't think of a valid reason for anything to be there
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23:10.36ptero_file was created in april 2012, before i stopped updating linux. but it might have come from windows7, which had to used once with ext2fsd to repair some config mistake i made on linux, since my dvd-rw drive died and i couldn't boot from a linux live cd. i then left it on. from what i found, it's a cross-platform malware, affecting windows more
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